The Syndicate

unless stuff has other plans I guess?

anyone capable and willing to protect iron dwarf tonight? hmu

also, [mention]Kenway[/mention] plz let me know in btsc what your promoted abilities are, so we can solve some shit, like the cool and attractive wizard boys that we are

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:26 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:35 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:11 pm @colonialbob are you still capable of protecting other players or did you promote out of having that ability?

I still have some protection abilities, yeah. Why do you ask?

do you want to fight crime together?

I mean we can try but I don't think any of my abilities will turn into a kill.

Oh. So no protect?

Don't you have a jailkeep?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:35 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:11 pm @colonialbob are you still capable of protecting other players or did you promote out of having that ability?

I still have some protection abilities, yeah. Why do you ask?

do you want to fight crime together?

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] are you still capable of protecting other players or did you promote out of having that ability?

what is the case against cbob? is there something I'm missing

did ddl ever explain what he meant?

if it's between cbob and sig I think I would prefer a sig lynch.

what does that mean?

[VOTE: iron_dwarf] aubergine aubergine

iron dwarf...mm it was implied by him that there's something mechanical which was making my attempts to cast elfire on him fail. such a thing could be a realistic background ability for a knight to have.... maybe

gwilikers used to be his overseer but he got recruited to rico's army and so is no longer adjacent to sig

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:51 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:47 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:46 pm Mafia sig can't kill every Night. It's in the rules. Wizards giving him permission or some shit.

he doesn't have any wizard neighbors on the role list

Then who was it playing Mother May I with him?

what does this mean?

i should maybe proofread sometimes

colonialbob: has a pretty good voting record. voted quin during a tie, also voted for lapluie during a tie, two of them were during ties (though one tie doesn't count cus Epignosis was doing his gambit thing, and in the other one Dr White was lynched somehow) most of his votes in this game have been for quin.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:46 pm Mafia sig can't kill every Night. It's in the rules. Wizards giving him permission or some shit.

he doesn't have any wizard neighbors on the role list

reasons to read as civ

Rundontwalk: his worldview of suspected people should give up instead of fighting is at least consistent with his early game statements
Speedchuck: strong townread on Dunya, hasn't changed anything for the negative, forthcoming with night results dissimilar to lapluie who didn't share hers so if they were teammates then Speedchuck is using a fake result strategy that he didn't tell lapluie to try using. Unlikely.
Kenway: dunya townread him and compared him to glorfindel, also he promised that he was civ in btsc and his technical issues seem to be legit
Kylemii: super handsome and cool
Gwilikers6 : forthcoming with role results early on
Nutella: lapluie and quin went after her in a way similar to the way they went after each other. if this were a distancing tactic then it's an elaborate one
Colonialbob
Epignosis: there are multiple layers of mechanics indicating that he is civ. like at least 3 layers.
Sprityo: vouched for by Epignosis to have civilian mindset and behavior behind the scenes, see above.
IronDwarf
Sig: it would be easy for a mafia sig to abuse his power and slay suspected civs that weren't on his team to thin out the herd and make his team win faster. In fact if a mafia sig had killed every night then this game might be close to over already.
Kites: I believe the night interactions involving sig's kill and Wilgy indicate that kites has a civilian passive ability, especially since he didn't seem aware that pirate Wilgy was his brother.

not done yet. posting cus battery dying to be continued

[mention]nutella[/mention] how have your nights been

Kenway wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:59 pmDo we have confirmation that the kill can only target Mafia?

elfire cannot result in civilian death

being complimented for applying my role in maybe the most obvious way possible is a little disheartening, I feel like I'm being damned with faint praise.

!!!!!

a thief

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:01 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:49 pm Jackofhearts2005 what would fire or elfire do if they targeted a cop type info role? what is the opposite of a cop

The opposite of a cop...

a... robber?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] what would fire or elfire do if they targeted a cop type info role? what is the opposite of a cop

the whole point of targeting you, sprityo, was to clear epignosis, I can't target him cus he's on a horse so my business with you two is complete

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:23 pm @Kylemii Do you know what swapping a cop would do?

I don't. I haven't asked. I have two theories though.

1. cop receives incorrect result, opposite of what they should have received, reversing the ability of the cop

or

2. cop's target receives the cop result of the cop instead, reversing the direction of the cop

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:19 pm @Kylemii I need you to use your elfire on someone other than me and Epi for now

We’ll be fine and won’t need any switching, that could also cause us to die probs

don't worry, i have other plans now

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:06 am Speedchuck (formerly Dunya)
Epignosis
Sprityo
Rundontwalk
Nutella
Kenway
Kylemii
Colonialbob
Gwilikers6
Kites
IronDwarf
Sig

I would not lynch the top half of this list.

Right now we have 3 scum among 12. Assuming shenanananigans and scum power, They may have the equivalent of 5-ish people. 5v9 ish. We can handle one or two more mislynches.

i don't care but why am i below kenway?

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:33 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:07 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:56 am @sprityo barring shenanigans, whoever you targeted last night was a civ, assuming you used mend or a mend facsimile and neither of you nor i were misdirected.

this doesn't actually feel like a super mind-blowing revelation but at least it's something

I’ve targetted Epi every single night of the game if that tells you anything

I’m not following the logic here by either of you. Why would spirit’s target be town for sure? And Spirit, is epi a town read for you simply based on the role, or because of how he’s interacted in your BTSC chat?

sprityo is a doctor and I'm a sage. I turned sprityo's protection into a kill that can only fell mafia. assuming no shenanigans were at play if epignosis were mafia he'd be dead. granted he was already pretty unlikely to be mafia

[mention]sprityo[/mention] barring shenanigans, whoever you targeted last night was a civ, assuming you used mend or a mend facsimile and neither of you nor i were misdirected.

this doesn't actually feel like a super mind-blowing revelation but at least it's something

i didn't realize day had started yet cus i didn't receive yet another "your power failed " message from jack

holy shit

[mention]sprityo[/mention] if you're still up in the air about it I'd take it as a personal favor if you try to remain as a close to a foot bound doctor as possible for synergistic purposes. Though that obviously becomes less relevant if epignosis chose mage knight, (assuming mage knight also has an elfire type spell, which it might not)

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:03 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:25 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:55 amI wanna see what happens when i knock RDW, Cbob, Kyle, and nutella off the lists of possibilities, represented in yellow are 'not likely mafia'

what are the reasons behind the yellow names on this list? most specifically cobbo

An exercise to see what it would look like if everyone voting on big wagons day 1, 3, and 6 are town

okay, but like... what was the specific symptom displayed in this excercise that made you say "cbob is probs good"

b.

cbo

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:55 amI wanna see what happens when i knock RDW, Cbob, Kyle, and nutella off the lists of possibilities, represented in yellow are 'not likely mafia'

what are the reasons behind the yellow names on this list? most specifically cobbo

myrmeridon crime boy quin was dead at the time of speed targeting lapluie, of the things we know about myrmrmodon ddl or mercenary cbob could be responsible for a wrong result, though it seems like if speed had his target changed then he'd still know who his end target result was from, based on what he's said about his result PMs.

the other possibilities are that the mafia has some sort of info-fuck ability like a seemer or w/e. Maybe rising star pointer looks like a civ when checked or something? Or maybe a different one of their background roles can fuck with info-gets.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:39 pm @Kylemii gth scum?

Mine would be Bob, Sig, IronDwarf

I dont feel like GTH is as valuable as process of elimination right now, we have 2 scum down, that's enough information to start digging through the shit and clearing out the people residing in the gray areas, so we can put them in the red and green areas where they truly belong. that's what I'm working on right now.

there's this excercise that jay sometimes brings up where each player lists every living player and thinks of reasons why they could read each player as civ, one by one, and afterwards evaluates which players were the hardest to think of reasons for. I think that kind of excercise might be valuable at this point in time now that we've snagged 2 mafia.

with dead scum proximity analysis and info role results combined we should be able to clear up the field quite a bit, possibly enough to........ fuck. speedchuck alignment copped lapluie as being from a townie region didn't he.

there was a genuine metric fuckload of distancing between lapluie and quin

if nutella is mafia then she has put a tremendous amount of effort into distancing from both quin and lapluie

I'd consider it tinfoil but with the amount of effort lapluie and quin spent on suspecting each other I'm not sure I would take it off the table completely?..... the concept of a nutella/quin/lapluie mafia feels like some kind of 3 headed oroboros that seems to be in a very consistent hurry to chew itself to death.

Kites wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:10 am

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:06 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:04 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:48 pm

Kites wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:01 pm also does anyone have contradicting role / backstory info regarding your gender? archers are females and i’m a woman according to my backstory, i just wanna know if they’re intended to match or not

i’ll try to be more active tomorrow. for me it’s really hard to catch up and come up with original cases and stuff someone else hasn’t already said if i’m not there at the start, i feel like i’m constantly 10 steps behind everyone else
good night

I am a man but I look like a woman. I'm not sure what you mean by "archers are females", is this established somewhere? This strikes me as fishing for people's genders for something role related. Could obviously be either a town or a scum role, but noted.

I asked you this before: how do you know you look like a woman? Did your role come with a photo? I didn't get one.

also, I think @Kites meant to say archers are males and he's a woman. or archers are females and he's a man. The sentence and contradiction doesn't exist in his post as it stands now.

Let us know what you meant, Kites.

oh my wording can be confusing sometimes
archers are referred to as ”her” there’s no contradiction, i wanted to know if that’s the case for everyone.

please don’t let this thing distract you tho. i asked because under certain, but very unlikely, conditions there’s an effect on my action so it’s a really minor thing and not worth paying attention at this point

Kites, in this post were you referring to your long lost brother thing?

which nights did we see the mafia kill fail or just not happen?

My magebro Kenway has been after lapluie on and off for much of the game, suggesting her lynch on the basis of her name being in the badguyia army section of the front page. While his reasoning was probably wrong, his conclusion was right, and while this is difficult to confirm due to the nature of anime magic, he even spent two of his nights targetting her, or at least claimed to.

+1 Kenway

nice

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:04 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:02 pm We can still learn stuff before lap flips

ask me now before I die

targets? results? please?

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:46 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:37 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:53 pm I could see Nutella, RDW, or lapluie flipping scum tbh.

If lap is scum we policy lynch kyle for this one

excuse me? your idea of defending yourself is giving up on playing and asking to die. you haven't given me a reason to view you as a civ.

You apparently haven't read the thread today. You should, I made it entertaining reading.

I have read the thread. you've made 70 million posts about how you're obviously a civ and anyone trying to lynch you is being an opportunistic mafia member taking the easy shot to try to remove what is actually a pretty low tier role from the game, instead of putting effort into defending yourself or finding scum. Your approach changed near the end only after your surviving the day seemed plausible.

sorry. maybe that's unfair but I don't agree with it as a gameplay philosophy

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:37 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:53 pm I could see Nutella, RDW, or lapluie flipping scum tbh.

If lap is scum we policy lynch kyle for this one

excuse me? your idea of defending yourself is giving up on playing and asking to die. you haven't given me a reason to view you as a civ.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:57 pm Expecting all the folks dropping in and voting lapluie last minute to explain why at some point (no matter what the flip)

I did an iso of her with the idea in mind of "what if lap is mafia and teammates with quin" and it just kinda made sense, that combined with the lack of revealing or apparently acting on any of her checks resulted in my verdict of "feeling it"