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by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:59 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am I disagree. Lying is lame. But. That's just my feelings.
Meh, Kate had a whole exchange with me earlier in the game where she knew I was lying/withholding and couldn’t see my angle.

My angle is that I was cop.

Of course I should have a good lie ready about my angle. But it was also partial truth… just not whole truth.
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:57 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty



I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.

Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?

How confident are we on Sean being town?
You can green me now
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:48 am
Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:46 am So let me ask you a question.

If I'm wolf and I've spent all day hard defending Lucy and being notably within my wolf range according to the two players who have played with me.

Why would we as a wolf team ever let Lucy come into thread and just admit to being a wolf there. I mean she's probably going over anyways ig but if she was gonna give up went would I waste my breath?
Because she didnt consult you, she felt demoralised after my entrace and ghosted thread then just coasted till she went over and admitted it in the final seconds and you posting ... because you are unahppy with that is very indicative of that but this is all angleshooty bullshit we shouldnt be engaging in because I have said I would turbo who ever you wanted as long as you provided a decent case as to why they are wolf and then turbo you the next day if you are wrong. I am giving you a winning dome but you arent taking it
Why should we dome?
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:55 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Often, at least.
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:55 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:46 am
Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:43 am By rarely I mean literally never.
I lie all the time, about everything, I am lying about this. I lie as town and wolf because I am addicted to lying. Believe me this
Lying as town is usually good townsiding
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:43 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Appeal to emotion is NAI
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:42 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

I’m still looking for answers to the more difficult questions I posed above.
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:37 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

Neon wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:06 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:25 am
Neon wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:22 am Holy fuck my brain is mush reading 1304 posts was a bad idea.

My catch up is town is

Me
SVS
Lucy
Dennis

I also think it's highly more probable than not that Sabi is town here. With that said I will never ever push sabi ever again even if I suspect them but in this case I'm highly comfortable saying I find it more likely that this behavior is indicative of town Sabi.

Also. Always flip the D1 CW

Always.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I mean. I don't think Seanzie is particularly towny anyways but

Image

Brain mush. Good God

Elaborate more on those towns you have, and then please tell me more about... me.
Well me is town cause role card

SVS is town for something I forgot to write down while doing my catch up but I wrote lock town never rescind so I am gonna trust that and if you really care more than me saying vibes or something I'll dig it out of the iso when I've slept more than 2 hours in 2 days

Lucy is town solely on vibes. I just don't see the scummy motivation especially for how they acted d1 and I do think I've seen basically this exact play from town lucy but I can't point you to a post and say this is why it's a vibe thing. My vibes are good though

Dennis is so bleeding town that I don't even know how I'd have to explain it like... just read their day 1 and tell me is this a new wolf or a new town? Dennis is also better than I'll ever be but hey.

Sabi try hards as woof and is basically giving up and not being overwhelmingly present at all times. I do not think wolf Sabi does this I've never seen wolf Sabi not try hard and stress and pull their hair out over every little miniscule play. This could be faked but I don't think it is I've seen sabi play like this like word for word as town. If I've been snowed by sabi again I mean congrats you've got me fucked.

Seanzie. I dunno I don't think you're ever particularly town ish when I play with you but I can at least usually go hey I guess I can see what's going on here. I don't have that this game. I think someone should have pushed harder on the opening it was weird. I think you've been causing little micro chasms between townies poking and starting things and limping away. Also I wanna flip you for info.
I haven’t forgotten what neon had to say about svs in this post.
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:33 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Nah, SVS doesn’t feel right. If you’re town I think you’re looking in the wrong place.
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:31 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:27 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:21 am
Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:17 am Because I'm the most optimal misexe after yesterday. And I've clearly been trying to get Scotty killed for days. I've sat on Scotty for hours at a time each of the past two phases.

Scotty noted my stealth votes on him. And now he's not only flipped town but town doctor I hard defended Lucy it's not that hard to connect the dots and surmise I'm wolf.

But if I take at face value that Sean and Falcon are town like I think. Roxy Golden and Dennis are town.

And I'm >50% reading Rondo town. Well I'm gonna die today. Or Falcon is.

If I was a woof I'd hard defend Lucy by nature but optimally speaking the way to play it was probably exactly how SVS did. And how I played with Wilgz when we were caught out which allowed me to get deep enough to go f3

So. I'm gonna die but I'm gonna need you to actually look at SVS tomorrow.
You know what, that is a pretty high % for you if you are town after yesterday. I pretty much broadcast that I was going to kill you today if lucy was wolf and if I am a wolf I would know that so you would know that my plan is to kill you the minute lucy flips wolf so having me at +50% is pretty high

That could be because you know if you push me I am only going to confbias you harder and just calling me neutral / town is more likely to get me to move. Explain in detail how SVS defended Lucy? Or do you mean how she made sure Lucy went over?

Can you case her for me?
I'm saying the only option was to hard bus Lucy. The unwavering push on Lucy with no reassessment, the shade at me as the day went on because I was defending Lucy.

I thought about this a lot last night. I think I'm dying and frankly I don't think I can stop it but I think it's important to try to get town to see what I see and not blindly follow up me with Falcon or Roxy.

SVS has been hard town read and I don't think there are great reasons for it and being able to claim Lucy's pelt was the last chance woofs had to win here.

I'm confident on most of the town core that remains. There's really only a couple people.

And I'm town reading you Rondo based mostly off how I felt about your slot pre sub. But i felt strongly about that.

I've been wrong though. About everything. In all my town games. For like a month straight. So. I'm pretty fucking demoralized.
Why was that the only option? Coming into the day Falcon, fingersplints, scotty at minimum, perhaps even add you, all had decent suspicion. They’d only lost their vanilla. Why hard bus the power role?
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:25 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Also, if SVS is wolf that means she called me out as trying to ‘shame her’ for sussing her own wolfmate, ie she was faking that guilt. That feels really unlikely to me, that emotion felt genuine and it’s hard to see why wolf SVS would be upset with me for pushing her away from a read on her own teammate instead of just taking the gift.

Also she had a run to suspect lucy but push Falcon because I was twinning Falcon/vivax yesterday and she passed that up.

And then got upset with me again for what she perceived as risking the outcome.

I don’t see it.
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:22 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:17 am Because I'm the most optimal misexe after yesterday. And I've clearly been trying to get Scotty killed for days. I've sat on Scotty for hours at a time each of the past two phases.

Scotty noted my stealth votes on him. And now he's not only flipped town but town doctor I hard defended Lucy it's not that hard to connect the dots and surmise I'm wolf.

But if I take at face value that Sean and Falcon are town like I think. Roxy Golden and Dennis are town.

And I'm >50% reading Rondo town. Well I'm gonna die today. Or Falcon is.

If I was a woof I'd hard defend Lucy by nature but optimally speaking the way to play it was probably exactly how SVS did. And how I played with Wilgz when we were caught out which allowed me to get deep enough to go f3

So. I'm gonna die but I'm gonna need you to actually look at SVS tomorrow.
I actually do want to understand this and I don’t yet.

How are you the most optimal miselim? How does Scotty’s death magnify the likelihood that you’ll be miselimmed?

Why does you trying to elim scotty during the day make it more likely that people would think you’re responsible for the NK?

If you were wolf, who would you have NKed? What was optimal for wolf neon?
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:19 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

It’s really very early to say ‘I’m gonna die’
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:09 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:08 am Pretty sure Scotty was killed to make me look worse
How does that work?
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:09 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:06 am
Golden wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:05 am Scotty as a kill choice is intriguing. I don’t think everyone would have made it.

I figure that keeping me alive was probably a hope that I’d tunnel on Falcon, which is a good look for Falcon. I think of Falcon is bad the plan would be to kill me and argue the kill was wifom.
I think I would have killed you Golden for Maximum chaos
Honestly I think quite a few would have seen me as a good wifom kill, and Scotty as a helpful elim target to have alive.
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:08 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:05 am
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:43 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:25 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:12 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:51 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
I thought Lucy was bad early, I *knew* she was bad when she got pissy that Kate was dead posting. It was almost like, “Shut up, you, I killed you!”. I think she was telling the truth that she was trying to wedge Kate/Dennis. That’s a big chunk of why I suspected her before I backed off.

I think Neon is town. No baddie would have gone that balls to the walls to protect a teamie, imo. But she made it sound like aggro defense is more the norm now, so outside of my experience.
I have consistently thought neon was town, that’s my gut read. I’m just wondering if someone like rondo has a better read.

Where are you at on Roxy and Rondo? (I’m thinking here of rondo as bea and reevaluating reads on friends.)
I’m going to reread them tomorrow as well as splints and you. Obvs with the role claim my town read on you stands, but I want to see interactions too, so I’ll pull in Mata too.
Ignoring lucy TMI'ing me town by asking how I found her you can just look at my entrance to the game and then almost instant turboing on Lucy to force her to do things to clear me
My perception is lucy would totally use a wolfclaim to townclear a teammate, or to wifom others into thinking she’s townclearing a teammate, so I call this NAI atm
Sure and I would even go for a play like that as well, but would I do that as well as be the main reason she goes over? People will be asking me why I am not dead in 2 days. In fact now that you have pointed this out I expect to make it to lylo now unless I die today
Instinct says no - I still townread you/don’t think you fit in the wolfteam on your own merits.

But I don’t really know your range right now. So call it a tinfoil read, but i do want to go back and read you and get a second take.
by Golden
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:05 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Scotty as a kill choice is intriguing. I don’t think everyone would have made it.

I figure that keeping me alive was probably a hope that I’d tunnel on Falcon, which is a good look for Falcon. I think of Falcon is bad the plan would be to kill me and argue the kill was wifom.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:59 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:55 pm
Neon wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:05 am Hey remember when I said don't consolidate on a wagon it's just gonna kill a town we need two competing wagons and than for the 2nd day in a ris we had a run away wagon kill a town.

Yeah i remember when I said that.
Start of day 4
Yeah I really disliked that post at the time too. Neon has been begging for cred which is the least townish part of her game.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:43 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:25 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:12 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:51 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
I thought Lucy was bad early, I *knew* she was bad when she got pissy that Kate was dead posting. It was almost like, “Shut up, you, I killed you!”. I think she was telling the truth that she was trying to wedge Kate/Dennis. That’s a big chunk of why I suspected her before I backed off.

I think Neon is town. No baddie would have gone that balls to the walls to protect a teamie, imo. But she made it sound like aggro defense is more the norm now, so outside of my experience.
I have consistently thought neon was town, that’s my gut read. I’m just wondering if someone like rondo has a better read.

Where are you at on Roxy and Rondo? (I’m thinking here of rondo as bea and reevaluating reads on friends.)
I’m going to reread them tomorrow as well as splints and you. Obvs with the role claim my town read on you stands, but I want to see interactions too, so I’ll pull in Mata too.
Ignoring lucy TMI'ing me town by asking how I found her you can just look at my entrance to the game and then almost instant turboing on Lucy to force her to do things to clear me
My perception is lucy would totally use a wolfclaim to townclear a teammate, or to wifom others into thinking she’s townclearing a teammate, so I call this NAI atm
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:37 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:35 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:33 pm One thing I observe from neon is that she has a good instinct on how to get a townread and would use that to her advantage.

On the other hand that case was very long and took a lot of time.

But see point A.
Almost all of that case pointed to Lucy being bad except one part and the ending. Anyhow night thread!
I’ll have to actually read it now I suppose lol. I didn’t feel the need to yesterday.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:34 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

I wouldn’t do that, but also there’s a part of me that wonders if it’s a good move now and I should when wolf.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:33 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

One thing I observe from neon is that she has a good instinct on how to get a townread and would use that to her advantage.

On the other hand that case was very long and took a lot of time.

But see point A.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:24 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

[VOTE: neon] aubergine

This is where I feel best right now.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:13 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:55 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:25 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:21 pm Uhhh, so Golden, about your whole 'Seanzie is doc' thing...
Well Scotty was the only one to push back even minimally.

That said, I personally think Sean was town, but I think we all need to reevaluate our reads.

I’m gonna go back and read, because after Lucy’s elim, I’m not sure who I think The third could be.
Really? I said I would nuke Golden if it wasnt for seanzie, he wasnt the only one but that is besides the point he was kinda saying he would vote golden as a softing of not being doc but I am not sure if that is wolf seanzie or not. For me today its Neon or Seanzie. Golden is basically 100% cop because no one can CC legally and even if they did then wolf would be dead within 2 days so not an option for them. Golden is now IC for me (I mean I said that yesterday but that was mostly a confidence over read)
Yeah, I cannot claim that if it’s not true, in accordance with the rules.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:12 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:51 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
I thought Lucy was bad early, I *knew* she was bad when she got pissy that Kate was dead posting. It was almost like, “Shut up, you, I killed you!”. I think she was telling the truth that she was trying to wedge Kate/Dennis. That’s a big chunk of why I suspected her before I backed off.

I think Neon is town. No baddie would have gone that balls to the walls to protect a teamie, imo. But she made it sound like aggro defense is more the norm now, so outside of my experience.
I have consistently thought neon was town, that’s my gut read. I’m just wondering if someone like rondo has a better read.

Where are you at on Roxy and Rondo? (I’m thinking here of rondo as bea and reevaluating reads on friends.)
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:48 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Seanzie where are you at on Dennis?
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:47 pm
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Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Dennis should definitely be back in the mix, as much as I lean ‘Lucy was wifoming us’. She called him the obvious NK target on night 2. TMI? Misdirection? Or genuinely trying to push a wolfmate into the clear?
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:45 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:41 pm I’m really sorry to see Scotty go. He was a good doc, he saved some people I think.

As I said, after lecturing during the last day about friendship blinders, I’m going to doublecheck mine. The last EOD was weird.
Really good doc.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:44 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:41 pm I’m really sorry to see Scotty go. He was a good doc, he saved some people I think.

As I said, after lecturing during the last day about friendship blinders, I’m going to doublecheck mine. The last EOD was weird.
I am sorry for briefly upsetting you. My goal with the Falcon vote was to see what it shook out. I think/hope it might be helpful, that was the goal. I only did it once I felt confident the Lucy outcome wasn’t in doubt (especially because I always intended to go back there).
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:41 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:40 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
I mean... I said Neon was in her wolfrange first.

Neon/Fingersplints with Rondo for backup should win the game I think.
Fingersplints would have had to be hard bussing the whole game. Not impossible, but I don’t see it. I’d have neon and rondo both before splints in my mind.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:39 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]

S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:38 pm
Golden wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:58 pm Chances of a Sean wolf going ‘you know what, i can use this as an opportunity to pocket golden’ and putting down doctor threads for me to see are astronomical. It’s far too risky.

The doctor dying would refute it.

It’s a million percent more likely that Sean just happened to sharply change his read and I misjudged why than that he’s deliberately wolf-pocketing me.
Also this. I’m otherwise staying out of this other than so say that on my current rainbow Sean is near the top.

Imma go read now.
I agree. I just wanted to judge his reaction to the vote.

Personally, I haven’t really seen anything wolfsidey from Sean in this game.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:32 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:28 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm I mean I was pretty convinced you greenpeeked me, but okay.
You could have said ‘that theory is wrong’. You had many opportunities to. You chose not to.
Saying that I'd kill you effectively implies that your theory was wrong without toeing the line of breaking no-claim.
Implying is consistent with wolfpocketing, though. I’m not saying town wouldn’t do it. Especially if you’re vanilla trying to pull a nk.
I think it went well beyond inplying. You just were in confbias mode, seeing all random signs that support your theory while ignoring anything that refuted it.
I had multiple worlds in my head. The confbias one is the one I portrayed, but I had my reasons (notably, I wanted wolves to think I was vanilla).
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:25 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:21 pm Uhhh, so Golden, about your whole 'Seanzie is doc' thing...
Well Scotty was the only one to push back even minimally.

That said, I personally think Sean was town, but I think we all need to reevaluate our reads.

I’m gonna go back and read, because after Lucy’s elim, I’m not sure who I think The third could be.
I agree.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:28 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm I mean I was pretty convinced you greenpeeked me, but okay.
You could have said ‘that theory is wrong’. You had many opportunities to. You chose not to.
Saying that I'd kill you effectively implies that your theory was wrong without toeing the line of breaking no-claim.
Implying is consistent with wolfpocketing, though. I’m not saying town wouldn’t do it. Especially if you’re vanilla trying to pull a nk.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:28 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:27 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:25 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:21 pm Uhhh, so Golden, about your whole 'Seanzie is doc' thing...
Well Scotty was the only one to push back even minimally.

That said, I personally think Sean was town, but I think we all need to reevaluate our reads.

I’m gonna go back and read, because after Lucy’s elim, I’m not sure who I think The third could be.
I mean tbf I did kind of make it clear I was not agreeing with what Golden was saying.
That’s not unfair.

I’m not gonna tunnel you. You’re just a starting point. Who ya got?
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm I mean I was pretty convinced you greenpeeked me, but okay.
You could have said ‘that theory is wrong’. You had many opportunities to. You chose not to.
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:23 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Thank you scotty.

I see no evidence Seanzie wanted to refute my theory

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
by Golden
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:22 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

So…

I am town cop.

Unfortunately I cannot comment any more on who I have or have not peeked, whether there are green or red peeks, whether there are days when I got nothing, and I won’t be replying to or responding to any theories which discuss this.
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:58 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:57 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:52 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:42 pm I disagree, I am making sure Lucy goes over today and I am not voting her
But you're not the one saying you are committed to doing what SVS wants, which again is super fuckin weird to say.
No, it’s not. Rondo had it exactly right.

I should be allowed to vote my own gut when the result is in no doubt.
Go ahead and vote your gut, I already said that's reasonable.


But if you want to act like there's no possible doubt in what could happen re: today's lynch as you actively try and start a flash wagon, well then self delusion is a powerful thing I guess.
Is it self delusion or is it that I have an accurate read on my friends?
I don't know, I know going off your vote record and your read on my slot, you ain't all that accurate bud.


That's not to say that I'm bulls eye accurate this game either, but hey guess what? I'm not flexing that, you are.
Thems fighting words. But I just met you, whereas many of the people voting lucy have been my friends for more than a decade.
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:57 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

lucy wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:55 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:54 pm
lucy wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:53 pm @RondoDimBuckle your case amounts to me not pelting a wolf yet?
negative, if you were here (which I [REDACTED] you [REDACTED]) you could have spent time talking to me, yet you cant, too late, so sad, too bad

no I'm asking so I won't be caught again in the same way
Tbh I think you are caught through copious green peeks.
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:54 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

S~V~S wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:53 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:42 pm I disagree, I am making sure Lucy goes over today and I am not voting her
But you're not the one saying you are committed to doing what SVS wants, which again is super fuckin weird to say.
No, it’s not. Rondo had it exactly right.

I should be allowed to vote my own gut when the result is in no doubt.
Of course you're allowed. I was just disappoint :disappoint: and surprised to see that you did so and it made the vote 3-6. With one vote cancellation and two people left to vote.

I feel better that it is now 3-6, but two people still have not voted, and one of them is Lucy who isn't going to self vote. My parents are still at the restaurant, lol, I left early to be here in case Lucy showed up, I have like three windows with various ISOs in them ready to refute points.
[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:53 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:52 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:42 pm I disagree, I am making sure Lucy goes over today and I am not voting her
But you're not the one saying you are committed to doing what SVS wants, which again is super fuckin weird to say.
No, it’s not. Rondo had it exactly right.

I should be allowed to vote my own gut when the result is in no doubt.
Go ahead and vote your gut, I already said that's reasonable.


But if you want to act like there's no possible doubt in what could happen re: today's lynch as you actively try and start a flash wagon, well then self delusion is a powerful thing I guess.
Is it self delusion or is it that I have an accurate read on my friends?
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:52 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:42 pm I disagree, I am making sure Lucy goes over today and I am not voting her
But you're not the one saying you are committed to doing what SVS wants, which again is super fuckin weird to say.
No, it’s not. Rondo had it exactly right.

I should be allowed to vote my own gut when the result is in no doubt.
no, see, the weird thing is. why would you say 'when the result is in no doubt.'? Its always in doubt, this is Mafia? I feel like you're trying to point out you dont have TMI which is a weird way of saying you have TMI. You know? BUT again, Seanzie shield and you have been here all game so its all potato to me
I don’t mean the flip. I mean the identity of the person going over.
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

But, I’ve promised SVS I will vote with her if the result is in doubt.
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:47 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:42 pm I disagree, I am making sure Lucy goes over today and I am not voting her
But you're not the one saying you are committed to doing what SVS wants, which again is super fuckin weird to say.
No, it’s not. Rondo had it exactly right.

I should be allowed to vote my own gut when the result is in no doubt.
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:44 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:39 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:36 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:24 pm
S~V~S wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:22 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:17 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

The result isn’t in doubt and I’d rather be here.
What does this even mean?

I am not sure why you are so resistant to a Lucy vote.

How likely is Golden to be bad in a world where falcon is civ and Lucy is bad?

Jesus. I worked my butt off for this elimination for two days for this? I give the fuck up.
I do not understand how you can say or think I am resistant to a Lucy vote.

I have bent over backwards to make sure you get your way today and I will again.
Haha, bent over backwards...while you move off lucy.



Do you hear yourself? That is the opposite of bending over backwards, that is literally doing what she does not want you to do.



If you just don't want to "make sure she gets her way"...which is just fucking weird anyways...that's one thing.


But don't act like you're doing her a favor while you do the exact opposite
Scotty wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:29 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:27 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:27 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:25 pm I just want my vote to be on my highest suspect. That’s it.
I mean…you’ve been pretty vocal all day that you suspect falcon. This is all so very odd
Yes I have, 100% so SVS should not be upset at me for voting that way.
I’m arguing semantics that you voting for falcon because he’s your highest suspect while also bending over backwards to make sure SVs gets her way is confused.jpg
I do not like that Scotty and Falcons arguments are identical. Read into that what you will

I dont know whats hard to get. Golden will make sure lucy goes over. For posterities sake he wants to vote Falcon. Both can be true. If everyone got off Lucy he would jump back on. I can read that from what he is saying. why cant you two?
Scotty had been remarkably resistant to inference in this game but I’m not sure if it’s just this game or not.
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:41 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:39 pm Am I the only one who finds it incredibly strange that Golden feels we have a strong town core while we've had 1 correct lynch in 4 days?


There is no way the town core should be considered strong in this game state
Anyone else think engaging golden not on his logic for why he thinks there’s a string town core, but only on a statistic, is disingenuous?

Falcon has been trying to wolfpaint me all game lol.
by Golden
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:39 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 88411

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:36 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:24 pm
S~V~S wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:22 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:17 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

The result isn’t in doubt and I’d rather be here.
What does this even mean?

I am not sure why you are so resistant to a Lucy vote.

How likely is Golden to be bad in a world where falcon is civ and Lucy is bad?

Jesus. I worked my butt off for this elimination for two days for this? I give the fuck up.
I do not understand how you can say or think I am resistant to a Lucy vote.

I have bent over backwards to make sure you get your way today and I will again.
Haha, bent over backwards...while you move off lucy.



Do you hear yourself? That is the opposite of bending over backwards, that is literally doing what she does not want you to do.



If you just don't want to "make sure she gets her way"...which is just fucking weird anyways...that's one thing.


But don't act like you're doing her a favor while you do the exact opposite
Here’s Falcon back to give me another lecture.

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