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That's one of those things where you'll get lynched as town 5 times before anyone believes it isn't alignment indicative, since it caught you onceColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:13 pm3) The next time I have the chance to vote off wagon again, you better BELIEVE I’m doing it, regardless of what team I’m on!
Yeah and your response to it was classic baddie - 'noone is giving me anything to aim at except Mac' as though agreeing with Mac's case isn't exactly what we should be doing! That's out of my playbook.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 9:07 pmYeah we had to kill you and Mac because there was no way we were lasting very long around you two. Mac’s day 1 case against me was spot on, minus the part where he said I should have defended sig while I was absent from the thread.Golden wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 9:01 pm Dammit, even though I knew I was getting killed I'm so mad at myself for the point at which I left. I thought I had another hour or so and I was going to double down and reinforce that Sloonei was bad. I wanted that to be my parting thought. Instead it was nova and turnip.
I always believed Sloonei was bad, from day one. Nothing ever shook me from that view. I suspected dunya but couldn't decide if it was real or just being pressed for time, and I didn't want to be too mean... dunya, I'm never giving you the benefit of the doubt again. I was nowhere close to speedchuck (his small defence of LC was enough for me to believe in him).
One thing this game reminded me is how important it is that a functional town pay attention to townslips. They matter. I couldn't believe how much Marmot suspicion remained out there after he was essentially hard cleared.
I'm not mad. I knew my contributions were about to go into seriously low. I played my heart out when I had some time, and gave everything I had. I was hunting for the nightkill to keep other better long term contributors alive.
No.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 6:20 pmThis is a slip right
Like it was meant to be posted elsewhere
Eh wolbre
What do you mean except for that? Colin’s vote is very team leaning.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 6:19 pmEverything about nova’s behavior around Colin is bad EXCEPT for colin’s vote on D1. If it weren’t for that, I’d keep pushing for nova’s lynch.Golden wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 6:15 pmThis post is bad.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:25 pm Finally caught up. I'm still good with the Colin's lynch. He hasn't done anything to really defend himself and all of his posts are bad, real bad. In my interaction with him, I didn't like his explanation to the Luna vote and I'll be looking at her when he flips scum.
Something I find interesting is how this wagon grew exponentially in the last few hours. I know he didn't defend himself but I still feel uneasy with all the votes he's getting when it was a tied lynch earlier.
[VOTE: Colin] aubergine
I could still get behind it tho
This post is bad.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:25 pm Finally caught up. I'm still good with the Colin's lynch. He hasn't done anything to really defend himself and all of his posts are bad, real bad. In my interaction with him, I didn't like his explanation to the Luna vote and I'll be looking at her when he flips scum.
Something I find interesting is how this wagon grew exponentially in the last few hours. I know he didn't defend himself but I still feel uneasy with all the votes he's getting when it was a tied lynch earlier.
[VOTE: Colin] aubergine
I've already laid them both out before.
Exactly. You said that in Fiddler in the Roof. You didn't say it here. I can see the rationale for the comparison but don't think it's apt in my opinion.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:43 pm I never ever told anyone to lynch me. So please don't say that anymore. I said it shouldn't stop anyone from voting for me because I haven't been engaged.
The best context is - find a counterexample, you won't. I've sat in a baddie chat with him and he basically says "Epi dies early way too often" (which there is truth to). It's just like some kind of friendly deal he has.
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:51 pmYou are most certainly welcome.Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:50 pmI'd rather she answers for herself, thanks.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:49 pm I think she's talking about MP scolding us for being dumb, but it's a dead horse at this point
I'd rather she answers for herself, thanks.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:49 pm I think she's talking about MP scolding us for being dumb, but it's a dead horse at this point
I don't think baddie marmot makes that case.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:04 pmThis is the most engaged I've seen nova in my (admittedly limited) experience with him. The piece of evidence which has been central to the discussion around him has been Colin's Day 1 vote for luna (RIP) when nova/sig/epi were on the block. colonialbob and Golden had a lengthy conversation about the two sides of this, with cbob arguing that if Colin wanted to save one of those three, he would have voted on a wagon. Golden argued that Colin's fear was over being caught saving a teammate. I lean toward cbob's side.
I know you well enough to know that Alex has a hat to eat.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:28 pm @Golden Here I thought it was just because you just knew me well enough. :sighs: Oh well.
I’m not at home. Did you have a nap when you should have been watching?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:18 pmI'm watching you closer than you could ever imagine in your wildest dreamsi
Like I'm right outside your house
What are you on about? How does it reduce accountability? If anything it increases it.
Sure, but generally speaking you're voting for the person you think is bad to create the tie, rather than the person you think is civ. So there's nothing unciv about about creating a tie, and there's also nothing statistically negative about it (it's balanced).Quin wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 5:55 pmThat also works the other way around.Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 5:54 pmThere's nothing particularly wrong with a tie. If someone who is civ has 6 votes and someone who is bad has 5 votes, the civ will be lynched. If both have 6, there's a 50% chance that the baddie is lynched.
There's nothing particularly wrong with a tie. If someone who is civ has 6 votes and someone who is bad has 5 votes, the civ will be lynched. If both have 6, there's a 50% chance that the baddie is lynched.
It’s all shades of the same colour. Olive is still green. Nova was one vote behind, if Colin voted that way it could have shifted the lynch.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:10 pmBecause you said you were suspicious of nova because Colin saved her, then said the idea was NOT to save her. Look at the highlighted portion of my last post in contrast to your statement (top vs bottom of the pyramid).Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:49 pm How does this not make sense to you bob? If you don’t get it your thevone taking the crazy pills. It’s literally how I caught Colin.
It’s the value of a tie. Baddies don’t want to break them, especially if their own baddie teammates are amongst it. I caught Colin because he wanted vote amongst those three. The most likely reason is that he had a teammate among them. Baddies are hesitant to make a late vote to save their teammate. Town aren’t because they don’t know who is bad.
If he'd actually saved nova it would be traceable. The idea was to NOT save nova, because then they'd be linked. But he also didn't want to destabilize a precarious situation.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:23 pmBut he didn't save anybody is my point. His vote on Luna did literally nothing to help stop nova from being lynched.Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:14 pmTraceability. Baddies worry about being caught saving a teammate in such situations.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:17 pmDoesn't saving typically involve actions that help your teammate not get lynched? If he was saving nova, why not vote one of the other popular trains?Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:46 amThe latter.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:45 amWait did Colin vote for Nova at some point? Or are you saying he voted for Luna instead of voting for the actual wagons, one of whom was nova?
(Keeping in mind I wasn't in the game until D2 so I might be missing some understanding of how the lynch went down)
Traceability. Baddies worry about being caught saving a teammate in such situations.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:17 pmDoesn't saving typically involve actions that help your teammate not get lynched? If he was saving nova, why not vote one of the other popular trains?Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:46 amThe latter.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:45 amWait did Colin vote for Nova at some point? Or are you saying he voted for Luna instead of voting for the actual wagons, one of whom was nova?Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:10 amHe voted for you, he didn't save you from being lynched, so there's a difference between your situation and nova's.
(Keeping in mind I wasn't in the game until D2 so I might be missing some understanding of how the lynch went down)
I haven't caught up with nova's posts today, but basically Colin is.
Did she make a similar post there where she talked about how she shouldn't stop anyone voting for her, that she wouldn't catch up, and that she basically didn't care how that looked?
The latter.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:45 amWait did Colin vote for Nova at some point? Or are you saying he voted for Luna instead of voting for the actual wagons, one of whom was nova?Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:10 amHe voted for you, he didn't save you from being lynched, so there's a difference between your situation and nova's.
