The Syndicate

People's read lists:

DUNYA
RUSS


SPEED


TH

Sorry folks, I failed to get the vote order worked out. I'm sorry. That might help, but it's hard to say. We've mislynched three times, and Nutella was never votes for, so we have little leverage in analyzing teammate vote behavior. The baddies have gotten off far too easy.

This afternoon I got sucked into helping my daughter build a Rebel Alliance secret base out of LEGO's for a school assignment. It was awesome. I'll post pictures of my her creation at a later time.

Prepare for a lot of pictures and data folks...

We have vote data to look through and we have teammate scenarios to consider. The following images show votes based on alphabetical order, not the order the vote was cast in. My goal for today is to rectify that. I want to put it in order as best I can, because that might help.

REVIEW THIS ONLY IF YOU ARE KEEPING SLOONEI IN THE POE:

REVIEW THIS ONLY IF YOU ARE TOWN-READING SLOONEI:


Analyze this stuff. Chew on it. Spit out what feels unrealistic. Investigate, investigate, investigate.

More to come throughout the day.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:53 pm But above all that: I caught nutella.

Perhaps, but you didn't get to see it through to the end. DDL killed her, so it's unclear if you would have pursued a nutella lynch Day 3 or if you'd have stuck to your long-running suspicion of me. You had us both in your lowest tier on Night 2. I was surprised at how quickly you dropped your sus on me, but perhaps that's the difference between how Nanook framed his claim and I mine.

I will concede that, in a small game with two straight mislynches, it doesn't make any sense at all for two baddies to stage the back and forth that you and nutella had. Your needling and nutella's soft read on me was enough to convince DDL to whack her. Granted, how would you know there is a civvie vig?

This is why I suck as a civvie most of the time. Unless I have info, I suffer from tinfoil paralysis.

If everyone else is willing to civ read you based on the nutella interaction, I will to. Just know that, if you are mafia, I will always refer to this game as a bright, shining reason to never give you town cred again without intel to support it.

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:11 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:48 pm well fuck it. im sorry jack, really fucking sorry. sorry tony.

i wish i could vote TH out right now.

Wait what?

More detail on how you came ot this conclusion, please. I have felt like I've been fighting you and TH in thread all game long, so for you to get this read on him suddenly shatters my worldview.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:38 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:18 pm @speedchuck can you give us something to work with like, a role claim even at this point. your character name? who do you suspect? why?

I can give both, if people want. But I don't think it's that helpful. I'll give more thoughts tomorrow unless I get vigged.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:23 pm Dunya seems to have lost her cool. She's acting a little manic, that's my shtick not hers :P

I'm not bad, and if I make it through the night I'll do everything I can to prove it.

Sorry Jack (and MP)

Same.

Uhhhhhh, what now??????? Is this a baddie slip?

Pretty obvious, Russ. TH is in the POE. No way he gets NK’d tonight unless DDL blasts him. Not sure how you didn’t put two and two together.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:05 pm Pondering the ponderable...

Is Sloonei truly cleared? His claim followed on the tails of MP's claim. Sloonei claims to have targeted the exact same two people in the exact same order as MP. There's no way to verify this claim because Sloonei claims to be able to benefit from his power. According to his claim, his intended targets couldn't be reached. No one has received a benefit, so no one can technically confirm Sloonei's claim.

Based on everything you've seen out of Sloonei in this game aside from his claim, are you willing to proceed with the game clearing him as a lock-civ?

It's a difference of a POE of five or a POE of four.

I'll post vote stuff in the morning.

Pink part should read: There's no way to verify this claim because Sloonei claims to be able to benefit others through his power.

Pondering the ponderable...

Is Sloonei truly cleared? His claim followed on the tails of MP's claim. Sloonei claims to have targeted the exact same two people in the exact same order as MP. There's no way to verify this claim because Sloonei claims to be able to benefit from his power. According to his claim, his intended targets couldn't be reached. No one has received a benefit, so no one can technically confirm Sloonei's claim.

Based on everything you've seen out of Sloonei in this game aside from his claim, are you willing to proceed with the game clearing him as a lock-civ?

It's a difference of a POE of five or a POE of four.

I'll post vote stuff in the morning.

PS- Turnip Head did not target anyone on Night 1, but that does nothing to clear him.

Plans shattered. Major bummer. One game-changer deserves another:

Dragon D. Luffy killed Nutella on Night 2.

Let’s POE the sh!t outta this.

Pizza and beer will drown my sorrows this night.

RIP Jack.

Placing my vote on Tony/Jack now. I want to avoid shenanigans with vote counts, and I find some of the moves Tony made odd and Jack's moves don't wash that strange taste from my mouth. There's not much to chew on with Speed, and that's frustrating. We at least got him to vote today, even if it is just for self-preservation.

Why do I keep finding ways to tinfoil TH as a baddie? I think all of my ISO reviews involve him being inter-connected somehow. What's up with that?

Against my better judgement, I am inviting MP to do a lot of talking tonight. I think we can sort a few things out, clarify some others, and maybe even get old-school strategic with night actions.

[VOTE: Tony/Jack] aubergine

Peering at speedchuck now...

He never voted. There's less of a record to analyze. I have to keep him in my POE for that reason alone. He may not have missed votes on purpose, but when action or inaction results in making it harder to read you, it makes it all the harder to civ read you too. Let's see what kind of bed he made for himself...

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Day 1 he says he won't vote for Sig but has a few jabs at Sloonei. He has reasons that he cannot get into for participating less here than in another game. He town-reads Sig.


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Day 2 he defends Sig from Nanook's assertion that Sig must claim or die but then finds it agreeable for sig to claim. He still doesn't like Nanook's wording against Sig. He refuses to vote Sig until one or both of Sig/Nanook provide clairity.

He says he has some sus of TH and couples it to a civ flip for Sig. He applies the same rationale to Nanook. Here again is another potential case of setting up next targets. Suggesting TH and Nanook are worth pressing if Sig flips civ leads you to wonder which of the two would be more enticing. Nanook ran the gambit and it didn't work, so he would be looking bad. Would a baddie set Nanook up as the next target only to kill him off that night, leaving a teammate as the only other option to pursue? Did Speed pursue TH after Sig's death? Speed also threw out a lot of names to consider after a civ-Sig flip.

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Night 2 he seems to backtrack off of TH. Otherwise he hasn't contributed anything to chew on during Day 3.

Precious time is a wasting here. Sorry for taking so long.

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] has claimed that he is a jailkeeper and that he targeted Russ on Night 1 and dunya on Night 2.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] has claimed a power role and has also claimed that he targeted Russ on Night 1 and dunya on Night 2.

[mention]Russtifinko[/mention] and [mention]dunya[/mention]- can either of you corroborate or contradict MP's claims of targeting you?

Problematic- that what Tony is. I feel very little when reading his ISO. He's the top vote-recipient right now, but I feel nothing either way from his posts. Earlier I gave him a slight town read because he seemed on-topic despite his content feeling thin. In revisiting his posts, all I feel is the thinness. He tapped out, so perhaps that explains the thinness.

He did give us this though:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:51 pm Dragon D. Luffy scumish
dunya town
Epignosis scumish
G-Man town
M Plus 7 town
MacDougall dead
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME town
nutella scumish
Russtifinko town
sig town
Sloonei town
speedchuck town
TonyStarkPrime town
Turnip Head scumish

Let's break that out like we did nutella's, leaving only the living:

TOWN READS:
-dunya
-G-Man
-MP
-Russ
-Sloonei
-Speed

SCUM LEANS:
-DDL
-TH

If Tony/Jack is bad, then he put a teammate on his scum list. Not uncommon. The only overlap with nutella's scum list is TH. If T/J is bad, then he padded his town read list well if he split the difference.

Someone else mentioned that Tony's first direct mention of Nutella came in this very read list. It's true. Then he defends nutella from Sloonei somewhat because he thinks baddies would be more agreeable to pursuing G-Man. Tony also goes so far as to speculate the high-tinfoil theory I posited earlier of a nutella-Sloonei connection. It's a weird triple feature:

1) Listing nutella as scum without any reason or prior suggestion of it.
2) Defending nutella against Sloonei's badgering.
3) Hedging on the possibility of both Nutella and Sloonei being in cahoots.

I think point three points to Sloonei not being bad IF T/J flips mafia. This seems like Tony trying to set up his next move after nutella flips baddie. I don't know how successful he'd have been though.

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Day 1, Tony voted for TH. Just like nutella, this could be a baddie just shrugging and letting the useful idiots mislynch somebody since no teammates are at risk. Night 1, he lists TH in a possible baddie trio with Epi and Sloonei. Could it be one truth and two lies?


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Day 2, Tony says the onus is on Sig to claim. It makes sense for a baddie to want a civvie to claim. It might help them solve the game a little. Threat assessment-type work, you know?

Then he starts to backtrack on TH, worrying that he's been pocketed by TH and calls a TH-including-trio too easy. He votes for Sloonei (why?) and thinks he's wrong about TH (why?).

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ENTER JACK:

Early into his reads, he says he could vote for Nanook, dunya, speed, or G-Man. We know one of them is civvie for sure, and I am civvie as well, which leaves dunya and speed. Was he questioned on these names?

Jack townreads TH early on. Curious, considering that Tony was gradually easing off his sus of TH. He later says this is because of TH trying so hard to ward off a Sig lynch and that it seems odd for a baddie to work so hard at doing so. TH never really got much blow-back from his defense of Sig, or was it more of a refutation of Nanook's methods?

Jack is mostly caught up in catching up and trying to defend himself from trying to survive a vote that includes a train that's not one of his prime choices but he has no choice but to help feed it.

Lastly, he claims to be vanilla. Jack is verbose and that tires me. I almost miss Tony. LOL.

Linki: Now, lastly, he agrees with assuming nutella split the difference and has only one teammate in her scum list. Curiouser and curiouser.

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I'm going to produce a list of who has claimed what so far. Corroborating and contradicting seem to be in short supply, but it could be quite useful.

Pondering nutella....

These kinds of exercises are fun, so let's see what this yields:

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 2:45 pm alright let's give this a go


Dragon D. Luffy town
dunya town
Epignosis scum
G-Man town
M Plus 7 town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME scum
Russtifinko town
sig town
Sloonei town
speedchuck scum
TonyStarkPrime scum
Turnip Head scum

Getting read lists from baddies is always an exercise in reverse-psychology. Splitting the groups up by those still living, we get:

TOWN READS:
-DDL
-dunya
-G-Man
-MP
-Russ
-Sloonei

SCUM LEANS:
-speed
-Tony/Jack
-TH

Either nutella forgot that she had both Epi and Nanook in her baddie lists here, or she/her teammates felt threatened enough to warrant killing them. Epi called nutella out on BS early, so I can see that threat. Nanook's peek gambit might have done the same. Either way, it cuts her baddie list down to three.

I'm assuming that there are two baddies left in the game. It feels right for the size of the game. Two against twelve seems harsh even if you do factor in all the baddie-friendly aspects of the game.

When you make a list as a baddie with two teammates, do you town read both of them, scum lean both of them, or split the difference? My brain always assumes that a baddie splits the difference. It's what I'd be inclined to do in that situation.

Assuming that nutella split the difference, then it means only one of speed, Tony/Jack, and TH is bad. That's a pretty good group to bury a teammate in, because there are posting and personality tendencies in all three of them to keep people wondering.

Her town read list includes some potent potential supatown types. If nutella did not split the difference, then two on that list are her teammates. Which two would you wager on being the baddies if both had to come from that list?

Putting both of your teammates in a scum list is dangerous because, if people start agreeing, you hurt your numbers. It might give you cred, but that cred might be hard to give when the baddie kills start steering everyone to 2/3 of the baddies that easily. You can only be so correct without seeming suspicious for it.


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On Day 1 she just kind of shrugged at the entire Mac-or-Sig debate. Easy to do when you know both are civvies. She let us do the mislynching. Does another teammate pull of the shrug-and-vote-elsewhere bit? Your only options are Russ, DDL, and Tony/Jack. Speed didn't vote, so if he's a mislynch, then there could be a baddie on the Mac train, but it's only dunya, Sloonei, or TH.

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On Day 2, nutella relents and votes Sig based on Nanook's gambit. It makes sense, because she can blame it all on his compelling claim after it blows up in everyone's faces. Again, she didn't have to try very hard. In doing so, she put herself at odds with TH. I can see a world in which the two of them take opposite sides of the matter so at least one of them comes out looking good in the end. What happened was, nutella was wrong and Nanook looked suspicious, helping TH in the process.

Nanook being NK'd throws a wrench into the nutella-TH teammate works though. It takes away a mislynch opportunity from them and also erases any cred gained by TH in the process. It was, however, a soft erasure of cred for TH, because I don't know that many people sussed him for his sus of Nanook. I mean, Nanook had a lot of 'splainin to do. Maybe that shelved analysis of TH's sus on Nanook. Hard to say.

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Night 2, nutella proclaims that there's very little to gain from Day 2's events. That makes me think that there is something to Day 2 that she hopes we don't pick up on. What was it? Maybe I'll find it in my ISOs.

Night 2 she also throws shade at TH again, as well as DDL. I'll have to see what 'exchange' she referred to to label them both as suspicious. It brings back that curious pondering about a TH-nutella scenario. I don't remember how much heat TH was taking at the time. I'll have to check on that too.

Night 2, nutella is wounded by having to defend her softball town read on little old me. This drew enough suspicion from the civvie vig to off her. This is a good time to remind everyone that nutella wasn't lynched. In fact she never received a single vote all game. That means her teammates didn't try the cute throwaway vote on teammate nutella. Maybe she was talkative but noncommittal enough that a vote on her would seem odd. Hard to say.

However, because I am G-Man, and I can tinfoil with the best of them, I can envision a world where nutella and Sloonei are baddie teammates, using their verbose natures to lead the thread post-wise, and setting themselves on opposite sides of one or two players in order to feed the other cred when one side crumbles and gets lynched.

But that's a lot of hard work to pull off in small, quieter sort of game. Why would baddies try to be that cute when they can probably coast for two or three days? I could see both nutella and Sloonei trying it for the show-off factor, but it's a bitter pill to swallow from a 30,000-foot level.

Perusing ISOs again over breakfast. I should have some time after lunch to collect my thoughts in a cohesive way. For now, here's what I do best- vote data spreadsheets!



These are our votes through two lynches. It was observed before that no one who voted for Mac turned around and voted for Sig. I think it's rare to see that, but it also means that most of us have blood on our hands. Only DDL and Tony/Jack have put their votes on secondary and/or tertiary trains both days.

I colored myself green because I'm a civvie and it's my spreadsheet. I told you my character's name in my first post, so no need for question marks. Awkward name for a civvie, I know.



These are our votes arranged in a different manner. Please note that the votes on this second image are NOT arranged by vote order. They are in alphabetical order. I've been ISOing, rather than reading through the thread as a whole. If I have time, I will try to put those votes in actual vote order. Still, some observations:

-Both of the lead Day 1 trains were civvies. The baddies didn't have to try very hard. Case in point- nutella. She was able to be non-committal and place her vote on the sidelines, letting the civvies mislynch someone on their own. A safe vote on a teammate by nutella? It's possible.

-On Day 2, the lead train was for civvie Sig, and at least one of the two runner-up trains was on a civvie (me). If Sloonei is indeed a civvie, then the baddies didn't have to try very hard on Day 2 either. I'll have to see what nutella's reads on me and Sloonei were at the time, because she may have felt forced to vote for Sig because voting for me or Sloonei would have looked forced and false.

-Once again, I struggle with the fact that Speedchuck hasn't voted. That in and of itself isn't alignment-indicative, but it's a mental stumbling block when I try to analyze the votes. It's one less name for me to consider while theorizing timing, combinations, and co-votes. In fact, it's easy to forget he's in the game completely, which flusters me even more.

I have to head into work. More later. Chew on this for a while and see what you taste.

Pointing out the fact that [mention]speedchuck[/mention] hasn’t voted in either the Day 1 or Day 2 lynch polls. Between that and his low post count, it makes it all but impossible to form an opinion on him.

[VOTE: Speedchuck for now] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:21 pm There is no serial killer. OP clearly states only 2 factions

Town and Mafia. That's it.

Perfect. I don’t know how many times I have read over the OP content and that never sank in.

So forget all the jive turkey SK stuff and riddle me this:

Is sharing my information worth the risk of losing out on a possible additional civ vig kill?

Ponder this with me, folks:

I have information that, if shared and corroborated, could reduce our POE pool by two.

If Nutella was killed by a serial killer, then I give Jimmy mad points for it, even if it impairs the winnability of the game for the civs.

An SK can’t be trusted by either side,
And we’d see which side would flinch.
Would the baddies skin the SK’s hide,
Or do we all give in and lynch?

If Nutella was killed by a civvie vig, then it begs the question...

One shot? Two shot?
How many do they got?
If one’s the number, then let’s dance!
If it’s more then I take a firm stance.

Would a one-shot civ vig be enough balance for the rest of what we perceive this game to be? I don’t want to expose someone with another round of ammo and feed the baddies an easy kill choice for Night 3.

Deliberate we must.
We could gain two to trust.
Nine of us remain.
Who must we detain?

My favorite Muppet
Was never Miss Piggy.
But I believe that strange puppet
Just earned me a Jiggy!

PS- I’ll try to answer your questions, totes;
I’m that nice of a nice fella.
Don’t give me your votes
Because I know who killed Nutella.

Popping in while I eat some dinner.

I am totally baffled by Nanook’s actions, but RIP.

Ding dong the witch is dead!

Are we thinking it was a SK or did Jimmy add a ?-shot civvie vig to balance his baddie-friendly game?

Please forgive my absence since Monday afternoon.

Work has been like a Give a Mouse a Cookie book from hell:

When you tell your boss that you found a $214,000 reporting error that’s existed for over a year without being found until now, he’s probably going ask you to prove it. When you attempt to prove it, he’s probably going to think you’re wrong because you only started three months ago and the problem has been in the books for over a year. When your boss thinks you’re wrong, he’ll ask you to stand in his office for two and a half hours while he tries to come up with his own reason for the error but can’t. When he can’t come up with his own solution, he’ll warm up to your theory. When he warms up to your theory, he’ll ask you to verify it the next day by going over the bank statements from the time the error started through the time it stopped getting larger. When you try to verify the error the next day with the bank statements, you end up spending 16 hours sifting through the sloppily-entered work of someone you can’t even ask questions to because they no longer work there.

I’m behind but I have a day and a half’s worth of work to do today. I will try to catch up.

Piling onto sig feels lame so early in the phase.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Sprinkled throughout his posts is quite a bit of pondering how baddies might strategically approach this game. More than once did I think he was more concerned with that than analyzing the game happening right in front of him. I will have to go back and look for specific examples.

Would you, could you, fuel the fire
Of dear old Sloonei’s funeral pyre?
ISO him for yourself and see
If you might, perchance, agree with me.

Poop on a stick! I have to burn a post to show the list. Sorry about that.

CIVVIE:
Mac (DEAD)
Russ
Dunya
Tony
Epi
DDL

BADDIE:
Speed
Sig
MP
Nutella
Sloonei
TH
Nanook

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 5:58 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 5:14 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:52 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:32 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 1:09 pm Rats. I forgot that I wanted to ask Mac why he thought I don’t like playing mafia. That’s a false assessment. It’ll have to wait for post-game now.

I mean you literally hide from your wife to play mafia.

If that's not liking it I don't know what it is.

Pretty good these days at hiding the fact that I’m playing from her. I don’t hide from her in order to play. She understands that I consider this community to be part of my social life and that I consider several people here to be good friends. Thanks for making it sound like I go cower in a closet or something. If that’s something else to add to the list of things that people don’t like about me around here, then maybe I should just hang it up altogether. GoC sure made me consider it. Time changes people and forums.

Wow I hope that didn't come accross as negative, it was just a joke. I love playing with you or playing your games and I definitely enjoy having you around.

Sorry, dude.

Also my sentence was not very clear maybe, but I saying I feel you do like playing mafia.

Poor reading comprehension on my part then. Sorry for the misreading and the lashing out in general. I’ve been living inside my head too much since the start of 2019, and Corona this year has only amplified it. I perceived a slight and I was wrong. I will do better.

G-Man knows how to make a scene
And come across as kind of mean.
Ignore his temperamental fits
And any nastiness that he spits.


This is my vibe/read list after re-reading with Mac as civ. Epi was low on my good reads, but now he is confirmed civ. That doesn’t change much about my re-read, but now I want to run ISOs and see how people responded to Epi’s prodding and anybody sussing him.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:32 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 1:09 pm Rats. I forgot that I wanted to ask Mac why he thought I don’t like playing mafia. That’s a false assessment. It’ll have to wait for post-game now.

I mean you literally hide from your wife to play mafia.

If that's not liking it I don't know what it is.

Pretty good these days at hiding the fact that I’m playing from her. I don’t hide from her in order to play. She understands that I consider this community to be part of my social life and that I consider several people here to be good friends. Thanks for making it sound like I go cower in a closet or something. If that’s something else to add to the list of things that people don’t like about me around here, then maybe I should just hang it up altogether. GoC sure made me consider it. Time changes people and forums.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 3:21 pm How are you guys getting like 5 scum reads? That's a bit strange.

Pfft, my vibe reads have seven in the bad section. It’s more of a “they don’t make me civ read them” thing than a “I suspect them thing.”

No one told them their GTH reads had to be capped at a certain figure. But I agree that not forcing yourself to narrow it down to a more sensible number given the size of this game isn’t helpful.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 3:12 pm Dunya scum reads me and nutella town reads me. Are we in crazy land?

Perhaps.

Pocketing my GTH reads until just before or after the flip. No reason to show the baddies who the least-suspected civ is while there is still time to submit/change their kill. My reads have evolved though after my re-read. Fun times.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:37 pm They're a pigeon pair of slanking wolves I think. They've both made just two posts. Speedchuck just put in a mighty effort in the other game, roles wolf here, can't muster up the energy to switch modes. G-Man just doesn't like playing Mafia, let alone being Mafia.

Rats. I forgot that I wanted to ask Mac why he thought I don’t like playing mafia. That’s a false assessment. It’ll have to wait for post-game now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:13 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:38 pm Playing the Joker here and switching my vote to sig. Do something other than gripe about MP. Otherwise it feels like distancing to me.

Let’s see how this changes the last 20 minutes of the phase.

Sig/MP feels nothing like distancing.

I wasn’t aware of the history of tension between them. It can’t be distancing because we’re not supposed to talk about it. I guess these are the kinds of goofy observations that come about with playing as infrequently as I do.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:59 pm Also anyone who over rhymes/someone in first 3 is def mafia trying to be blendy.

Ponder these words of yours again please, [mention]sig[/mention]. Answer me these questions three:

1) How do you define over-rhyming?

2) Who among us is guilty of such over-rhyming and does that lead you still toward suspecting them?

3) The first three players to post were Nanook, Nutella, and Speedchuck. If one of them, as you said, ‘is def mafia,’ which of those three is our villain?


Re-reading the game with the context of Mac being civ. It’s possible in a game that prohibits diarrhea of the mouth. Me likey.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:45 am who's around for a game of GTH?

i think we need to find out how we feel about everyone because people's thoughts are all over the place.

Perfect! Let’s do it. Will you be doing broad GTH or GTH pairings where we have to choose civ and baddie between two names?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:06 pm
How does night posting work? Is there a night cap?

Pouring one right now.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:54 pm Is this a rebellion, sheep?
You’re supposed to follow my lead
And trust my read
Something something keep

Piss off.

Perhaps I am a sadist, but I want to see MP and sig work their issues out like adults. No easy outs!

Switching to Mac

Playing the Joker here and switching my vote to sig. Do something other than gripe about MP. Otherwise it feels like distancing to me.

Let’s see how this changes the last 20 minutes of the phase.

Putting everyone on one side of neutral or the other:

GOOD VIBES
-Russ: His good on the fake-claim cover roles makes me feel good. A baddie would have clarified with the host.
-Dunya: I like her spunk. She's more assertive and direct than I would suspect a baddie to be.
-Epi: He makes good counter-punches, but how many times have I been duped into civ reading him in the past?

SLIGHTLY CIV OF NEUTRAL
-DDL: He’s participating without making waves. It’s kosher for now but a little thin.
-Sloonei: Also thin-feeling content. Perhaps that’s because it’s condensed from his typical volume.
-Tony: His content feels a little thin, but it’s on-topic
-TH: Lots of on-topic posts, but it all feels very chaotic or reactive. Need more time to gauge it better.

SLIGHTLY BAD OF NEUTRAL
-sig: Other than sparring with MP and Mac, there’s nothing to chew on.
-Speed: He’s low-hanging fruit, but none of his content seems to be on-topic or focused on winning.

BAD VIBES
-MP: This might be old bias due to his high-volume style of play. It's a soft ping, so don't take it the wrong way.
-Nutella: Equal parts old bias and not feeling much of anything despite the volume of her ISO.
-Mac: He keeps coming back to low-hanging fruit. Lazy for a civvie to do; wise for a baddie. It's never lost its appeal. I am low-hanging fruit, I realize this, so my judgement may be a tad harsh.
-Nanook: Maybe it's a lack of familiarity, but something in his play rubs me the wrong way. Rhyme scheme in moderation and play the game, friendo.
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Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:23 pm
G-Man:

He needs more time to post. He doesn't have much, but I will say this:

-Not a fan of his insistence on rhyming. Yes, it’s cheeky and fun but even I won’t encourage everyone to post solely in rhymes. Not a fan of his repetition of it. (-1)

...is strange coming from a guy who insists on practicing strange and quirky gimmicks all the time (his posts all start with a P, this time, by the way).

It's doubtful to me that someone of G-Man's quirky caliber would characterize posting in rhymes as something bad or inscrutable. We understand song lyrics just fine (well, most. We have Yes and Led Zeppelin...)

I would lynch G-Man today.

Peculiar? Yes. Hypocritical? Perhaps. In this game, there is a limit to how beneficial the rhymes are. You can fit them in here and there between prose as well. Once the benefit is over, sticking with the rhymes just impairs communication. I think it’s his apparent stubbornness to abstain from prose more so than the use of rhyme. My play experience with him is quite limited. If he’s quirky like me, then it might make sense. I lack that context. I’m voting for Nanook now so I have a vote on the board as I start ISOing the people I have little to no read on.

Patching together a reads list yields this:

GOOD VIBES
-Russ: His good on the fake-claim cover roles makes me feel good. A baddie would have clarified with the host.
-Dunya: I like her spunk. She's more assertive and direct than I would suspect a baddie to be.
-Epi: He makes good counter-punches, but how many times have I been duped into civ reading him in the past?

TBD (I need to ISO these for a stronger read)
-DDL
-sig
-Sloonei
-Speed
-Tony
-TH

BAD VIBES
-MP: This might be old bias due to his high-volume style of play. It's a soft ping, so don't take it the wrong way.
-Nutella: Equal parts old bias and not feeling much of anything despite the volume of her ISO.
-Mac: He keeps coming back to low-hanging fruit. Lazy for a civvie to do; wise for a baddie. It's never lost its appeal. I am low-hanging fruit, I realize this, so my judgement may be a tad harsh.
-Nanook: Maybe it's a lack of familiarity, but something in his play rubs me the wrong way. Rhyme scheme in moderation and play the game, friendo.

Posting my Day 0 thoughts. With as few participants as there are, coupled with the post limit, I’m going to try to take notes on everyone and assign arbitrary points (+ or -) based on how posts make me feel about you.

Day 0 is not a useful day, but I got two feels out of it...


But that’s not all,
My work’s not done!
Time now for me to crawl
Through the posts from Day 1.

Pardon my absence, dear friends, for I‘ve been
Busy with work all week and it’s crazy.
Showing up late on Day 1 is a sin.
Do know it’s not because I am lazy.
I work for a school district and although
Buildings are closed and the students waylaid,
District staff are all essential, you know?
I’ve had to work late so vendors get paid.
Tonight and tomorrow, reading’s my goal,
Discern which of you for whom I shall vote,
And not fall into a catching-up hole.
May today a baddie hang by his throat!
But alas, this day more work must be done
For the beast called Wildcat Foundation.

Pleased to meet you with a smile.
You can call me Mr. Vile.
I’m a civvie crocodile.
I’ll return here in a while.