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i'm already bracing myself for the attack of mac. i'll probably log off and go to sleep as soon as he logs on and wake up tomorrow to my mislynch.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:45 pm Can’t wait for the big dumb meat slab that comes along and gets everyone to vote in a landslide for reywaS or whoever
you're just putting words into my mouth now, and that's fine, you do you and exhaust that motive. i've said what i meant and there's nothing more to add.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:35 pm "the first post I made is THE MOST SUSPICIOUS AND VOTE WORTHY THING IN THE GAME"
That means he has to had read every post in the game, with attention, compared your post to the others and decided not a single one of them are more suspicious than ours.
When in reality, no one does that, we just pay more attention to posts that ping us and use them to accuse people.
you're not catching me in some grand scum slip, i assure you.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:31 pmWait, wait, wait, that's not what you said.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:23 pmas of right now, no, i don't think so. but i don't think he will genuinely believe i'm the best vote option if he had more time to read the thread.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:19 pmIs Colin a mafioso?dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:18 pmbecause the thread progressed a lot from there, including that initial suspicion, my reads and expansions.
Present tense. Colin does not believe you are bad. Which means he's lying, which means he's bad.
Future tense. If Colin reads the thread, he will realize there is no reason to think you are bad. Right now he's just a misguided civilian who hasn't had time to read the thread.
Why are you changing your point of view? The former quote should put Colin right in the red, the later abstains from making a call. You are backpedalling.
reywas has over 100 posts in the current ongoing game.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:25 pmNeither of those two is known for posting frequently. They're usually on the lower end of the spectrum. What does this mean to you?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:18 pm Why not?
You act like he carefully ranked every post in the thread up to that point and decided your post was the #1 most scummy.
When realistically, he probably skimmed the thread, saw your post, and thought "that's scummy imma vote here first".
how did you get that from my rationale?
as of right now, no, i don't think so. but i don't think he will genuinely believe i'm the best vote option if he had more time to read the thread.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:19 pmIs Colin a mafioso?dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:18 pmbecause the thread progressed a lot from there, including that initial suspicion, my reads and expansions.
i don't think this thread has blown up at the pace where they would both be ok with sitting behind and not feeling guilty about participation level. i think it's been relatively decently paced for 3 days.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:18 pmIs that usually really something mafia members "decide" to do, or does it just happen because they can't keep pace with the civilians?dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:17 pmyes, one or the other. i don't think a mafia team of 2 (i think sloonei would have opted for a s/a in this setup, the community theme begs for it) would both decide to lurk. i feel like if there's mafia in there it's not gonna both. and i just said they're both exhibiting lurking behavior.
because the thread progressed a lot from there, including that initial suspicion, my reads and expansions.
yes, one or the other. i don't think a mafia team of 2 (i think sloonei would have opted for a s/a in this setup, the community theme begs for it) would both decide to lurk. i feel like if there's mafia in there it's not gonna both. and i just said they're both exhibiting lurking behavior.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:15 pmYour slash mark indicates a "one or the other" dynamic. If it isn't, then that means your four-player POE was a five-player POE. Your explanation here doesn't tell me why you stuck them together.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:13 pmnot really, i feel like both of them are almost bordering on lurking behavior. i don't wanna overstep about sabie, since she seems to have personal issues i guess (funeral and whatnot), but i expect more activity from both of them than i got. sabie when she is on is saying how difficult it is to make reads, or that she will make reads, or or. she was active and chose to stay in character without giving us much in content really and it is different from her previous 3 games that i've seen. in contrast, in this specific game, epi gave us character and content. reywas coming on to say he will be more active, and not being active... i felt both of them are exhibiting similar behavior in that regard, and it makes me wary of them both.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:56 pm To be fair, dunya sticking "sabie/reywaS" in that goofy pairing to complete a "4" player pool is whacke.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm Conditioning Colin's status as best new player to not reading dunya as bad is a disgusting piece of manipulation.
It's not civilian thought proccess.
not really, i feel like both of them are almost bordering on lurking behavior. i don't wanna overstep about sabie, since she seems to have personal issues i guess (funeral and whatnot), but i expect more activity from both of them than i got. sabie when she is on is saying how difficult it is to make reads, or that she will make reads, or or. she was active and chose to stay in character without giving us much in content really and it is different from her previous 3 games that i've seen. in contrast, in this specific game, epi gave us character and content. reywas coming on to say he will be more active, and not being active... i felt both of them are exhibiting similar behavior in that regard, and it makes me wary of them both.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:56 pm To be fair, dunya sticking "sabie/reywaS" in that goofy pairing to complete a "4" player pool is whacke.
indeed. only if he's w/w with macJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:46 pm I am not sure a mafia Colin arrives late to the game and decides "I guess I'll get started by ratting the nests of both dunya and MacDougall".
honestly, this is mostly gut for me. i am not pinged by him so far. i feel like his roleplay has been in character with what i expect of epi on day0/day1. i loved the pairing of me and you being bad together suggestion. i love how he teased you about me being bad, and waiting to see my reaction. this playful side of him and exchange with you specifically took me back to elaine/jerry. i know epi would complain about long walls of mechanical game texts on day 0 and he did it in character, in a sincere way that is agreeable with me, as opposed to how macdougall or ddl approached it imo.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:27 pmThis post looks horrendously fake though, and I would vote for Mac on that basis alone.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:26 pmOh wait you do have a bad man read on me.
I have civ reads on DDL and Jay. Why are you and I on such different pages here?
Also why did you put yourself in your rainbow, that is such a ping to me.
you're avoiding what i'm after. let me ask you point blank: do you think i'm mafia, jay?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:20 pmCivilians certainly do make fake reads, but I don't know that you're the type. So yes it's bad.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:52 pmwhy would i be making a "fake read"? you haven't given any feedback on me in this game beyond putting me in a rainbow and voting for me for 2 hours. i assume you're accusing me of being mafia now, since civilians don't make fake reads.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:48 pmI wasn’t correcting your spelling. I was accusing you of a fake read.
are you referring to this?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:51 pmI could see an effort toward POE and thought it looked authentic.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:27 pmwhy?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:54 am Does this player presently cause any secretions in my civilian glands?
MacDougall - yes
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:30 pm ColinIsCool - Is currently on Earth 53
colonialbob - is Mafia
DFaraday - is suspicious
Dragon D. Luffy - is town
dunya - is rusty
Epignosis - is town
JaggedJimmyJay - is t...own
novaselinenever - is with Colin on Earth 53
Quin - is currently wrestling crocs in the outback
reywas - is Mafia
sabie12 - is suspicious
If I was voting to lynch someone right now it'd be ColonialBob.
your english is flawless.why would i be making a "fake read"? you haven't given any feedback on me in this game beyond putting me in a rainbow and voting for me for 2 hours. i assume you're accusing me of being mafia now, since civilians don't make fake reads.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:48 pmI wasn’t correcting your spelling. I was accusing you of a fake read.
why?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:54 am Does this player presently cause any secretions in my civilian glands?
MacDougall - yes
i don't really care if you're not convinced. i've already said why i think you're different and it has nothing to do with post activity, so excuse me for having a read on you, but i can't give you all the civ-cred when i'm not feeling it. i cited specific examples of exchanges between us or others that i feel are not usual jay-reactions. i am basing my read off those alone and not your "post activity" or even your enthusiasm to the game. you have double my posts (and almost triple and quadruple anyone else's). there's nothing to complain about there.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:57 am dunya, I’m not convinced you’re actually suspicious of me. At a certain point the continued vague assertions that I am “off” become meaningless and serve only to nudge the less-than-great thread climate for me.
whose ass is faker, mine or his?
i'll take a look, thank you.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:54 am And re: me being bad, I was maf in World Asunder (where I didn't catch suspicion until the game exploded, but there were two mafias) and a speed game wherein I was lynched D1 and my partner (speedchuck, natch) was quickly lynched D2. I don't think I've been maf in any other game here, although I was also a hostile indy in the Socky game.
whyColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:14 am If I were to change my vote, which is possible, as of now it’d be to Mac.
you've contributed an agreeable amount which shows you are up to speed on the game and thread, and yet your first "changeable" vote was not on someone who you had reason to scum-read. i don't like that.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:39 amPutting words in my mouth heredunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:36 amand you didn't have any reason to scum-read any of the players that have actually been in the game for 2 days?colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:49 pm The biggest reason I have to civ-read Colin is the fact that he didn't appear until fairly late in the thread.
[VOTE: coliniscool] aubergine
and you didn't have any reason to scum-read any of the players that have actually been in the game for 2 days?colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:49 pm The biggest reason I have to civ-read Colin is the fact that he didn't appear until fairly late in the thread.
[VOTE: coliniscool] aubergine
i'm a little confused by this example. are you trying to refer to someone in the thread who is exhibiting svs-like behavior?
epignosis' gif of "i agree" is not exactly what mac was doing. epi's day 0 contribs bordered on roleplay and humor more than demotivational imo. tone is everything to me. similarly, reywaS agreed with mac, but i didn't suspect him because he agreed with him.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:57 pmEpi wasn't behaving much differently to Mac. Why is he a town read?dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:28 am no one asked me, but ima go ahead and tell you why i think mac is mafia.
he comes in here to demotivate jjj. he has an issue with jjj taking the leader role. he's vocalizing it to make others aware of these issues he has with jjj. he is trying to renounce jjj's place in the thread. ok...
but then nah, he doesn't wanna take jjj's place after all. he's happy being led. he's happy jjj being himself.
there was no purpose for the former or the latter. when someone comes in strong and then contradicts everything said, it is always a plot to weaken or cause conflict or shake trust in a person. macdougall here was initially trying to take civ jjj off course, and whether he continued or not, the posts are there. they have already garnered agreement from at least 2 other people. there is purpose behind every post, especially one that criticizes another player's playing style, and especially when macdougall is no newbie to jjj or his playstyle. it gets old ya know. the pocketing approach may have worked in ass-class, but it wouldn't work in any game i'm in.
i mean, he's exaggerating a little, maybe. but tone and intent are very easy to get gut feelings about. we've been doing this for years, even analyzing people who have 0 posts based on what others have said about them. we absolutely can form a read on someone every time we talk to them.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:01 pmGTH's and PoE's don't count.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:56 pmI will make a read on any player that has made one post.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:47 pm Gonna vote for [VOTE: dunya] aubergine for now, mostly gut but also I really did not like that post.
not.i agree. i echo his sentiments, so i definitely see where he's coming from. i might place him higher on my rainbow after reading that iso.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:55 pm I think rey's suspicion of me looks quite authentic. See for yourselves and tell me if you disagree.
nope, i don't do that. i'd love evidence of where you've seen me do that. i think i know what i do and don't do. that's far out, even for me.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:46 pmI'm not gonna judge the quality of your intuition (which, for the record, is amazing), but whether you are trying to use it or not. And you're not.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:15 am It's a good observation made my someone who doesn't even know my playstyle. My entire mafia career has been haunted with my over-hyped "intuition" tbh and then not being able to translate that into a case. You contradict yourself when you said you were expecting more intuition and then expecting deeper analysis...
Normally you come here and start calling everyone's alignments for reasons we can barely understand. You just yell "Of course, X is obviously civ/bad, I can feel it!"
Your cases in this game read like something *I* would write. Because I'm not an intuition based player, I'm an overly rational guy who sucks at reading people and works better when there is information or strategy to analyse. You are writing the kind of pseudo-rational babble I usually make to attempt to do work on Day 1, and is barely right more often than not.
i can see why it feels fabricated, but is it an accurate representation of sabie outside roleplay? i checked the ongoing game and can see a lot of variety in her posts, more beefy content as the game progressed. we won't talk about that now since we don't know her alignment and the game is ongoing.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:25 amSpoiler: show
This is so specific that I struggle to believe it.
