The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:53 pm

Ermac wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:45 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:42 pmHi ermac

Hi Master Charles. We are happy to return.

Good to have you back.

If I may ask, Ermac, I'd like you to answer one of the following questions. If you can.

1. Would you prefer that this game ended sooner, or later?
2. Is there a person in this game you would prefer me to shoot right this instant?
3. Do you prefer chaos, or order?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:42 pmHi ermac

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:30 am

Ermac wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:24 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:18 am

Ermac wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:12 am @Sloonei You are without question a member of the Order of Light (your identity now having been revealed). We appeal to you (for the good of the entire Order of Light) to put forth the outcome of your deliberations on the following question:

Were you Mafia, who would likely have been the top 5 targets for your last night kill and (briefly) why would you have selected each? We await your considered response.

I'm really not in a position to answer this. I only loosely followed along during Day 2, with absolutely no effort toward deciphering the curses. So it was truly chaos to me. I loved it, but it wasn't anything I could develop any reads from. My work schedule and other mafia commitments have sapped me of my ability to make a big impact on this game during my brief window of participation. I can really only comment on things that are placed directly in front of me.
which reminds me that dunya did that earlier, but I was busy and totally ignored her.

I am sorry that your are unable to accomodate our request but given your circumstances and we wish not to impose too heavily upon you, may we pose our question another way?

Were you Mafia, what factors would you have considered or would’ve influenced your decision in arriving at a night kill target?

This question (the original one about the identity of 5 likely night kill targets) is open to anyone to answer but it is your response Master Sloonei upon which we await.

Generally I try to go for players who would be difficult to push a lynch against, but whose death would not present a clear line back to myself or my teammates. In a game like this, I would also want to factor in potential role and game mechanics. I think my death on Night 1 indicates that the scum team was interested in removing a player with a lot of town credibility. I would not be surprised if they opted to pursue the same angle again on Night 2.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:18 am

Ermac wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:12 am @Sloonei You are without question a member of the Order of Light (your identity now having been revealed). We appeal to you (for the good of the entire Order of Light) to put forth the outcome of your deliberations on the following question:

Were you Mafia, who would likely have been the top 5 targets for your last night kill and (briefly) why would you have selected each? We await your considered response.

I'm really not in a position to answer this. I only loosely followed along during Day 2, with absolutely no effort toward deciphering the curses. So it was truly chaos to me. I loved it, but it wasn't anything I could develop any reads from. My work schedule and other mafia commitments have sapped me of my ability to make a big impact on this game during my brief window of participation. I can really only comment on things that are placed directly in front of me.
which reminds me that dunya did that earlier, but I was busy and totally ignored her.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:16 pm

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:40 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:30 pm @Ermac I am curious as well. Especially in light of your previous comments.

Thé time has not yet come. We believe too that members of the Order here should be far more concerned by those who have fallen silent in this realm.

You've spoken largely in generalities and I think I understand why. Is there a specific quiet player who you think would be better than the others to lynch today?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:30 pm @Ermac I am curious as well. Especially in light of your previous comments.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:09 pm I'm here have some catching up to do, now my first impression was to go after dunya in a NO U sense, but I thought about it a bit more and I think it's more likely that people on my wagon was mafia.

I do like Rabbit's posts so far and from what I read I'm actually kind of agreeing with him on JJJ. I was slightly suspicious of him last phase, but figured going for an inactive was better especially when we couldn't talk. I'm going to finish catching up and then pull up some quotes and see from there.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:42 am

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:40 am As we said, we are committed totally to The Order of Light. We believe that we know the identity of the Outworld’s target last night and if correct, we know the identity of the brave member of the Order of Light who disrupted their evil machinations. You are correct though, that knowledge may not be so useful.

We also may possess other knowledge that may ultimately prove beneficial to the Order but that is not for us to reveal now.

are you town-aligned or mafia-aligned, Ermac?

Spoiler: show

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:56 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:36 am Wait Ermac is a role. I feel dumb.

Ermac, you keep saying "we." Are you one person, or more? Are you the person with the role Ermac, or someone else somehow affected by that role?

We don’t know what we are. We are lost in this nether-world between life and death. Our sole purpose is to further the cause of the Order of Light to the exclusion of all else in the time we are here.

when will you reveal this knowledge? in this day phase?
We are inhabitants of this realm. When you leave here, we expect that you will leave us to remain. Hence we will discharge what we know for certain before nightfall.

is your appearance the reason why the nightkill was hidden?
Perhaps. We don’t know that with any certainty but we believe the events to be connected in some way even if indirectly.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:44 am Is it.... possible someone actually did die and we just don't know yet because we're in the nethersphere?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:05 pm

Netherrealm

You are fools to come to Netherrealm. The dead are here.

No one has been killed.

It is now Day 3.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:03 am

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:00 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:55 am what is the truth? do you know why there wasn't a kill ermac?

We believe (on the balance of probability) the reason why there was no night kill. The question here however is do you?

believe what?

i don't know anything about the matter beyond the contents of the role list

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:55 am what is the truth? do you know why there wasn't a kill ermac?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:36 am Wait Ermac is a role. I feel dumb.

Ermac, you keep saying "we." Are you one person, or more? Are you the person with the role Ermac, or someone else somehow affected by that role?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:28 am I think Ermac is suggesting that the actual mechanic by which there was no death was something that you didn't mention. I haven't looked at the roles closely enough to know whether you missed anything, but it could be something that's not public and perhaps Ermac is suggesting you know something?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:42 am Kyle gets townie points for being the first one trying to make a defense on why the kill failed.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 am what's an ermac? Like Mac but more prone to error?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 am

Ermac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:42 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:55 am okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

We believe it to be in error

error?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:55 am okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:11 pmBoo!

Ermac wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:56 pm We are kin of Diogenes. We are looking for someone with a clue.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:50 pm Did Ermac sub in?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:49 pm Ermac is the legendary creator of The Cones of Dunshire.