The Syndicate

Me hard shielding Rondo and Dizzy is less impressive given I was also hard shielding the only wolf att.

I hate being beaten but I love having lost if that makes any sense. It's not fun to have no idea and to be totally fooled but it's really nice post game to be like "Holy shit, well played, man. That was awesome" now that the pressure is off.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:38 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:20 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:19 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:52 pm I'm mafia.

You should just listen to the things I say tbh

Yeah but Falcon said he was town.

Well played. You fooled both me and Max badly.

Thanks.

Tbh my biggest worry of the two was Mac, I was expecting him to start comparing me to me Assassination Class meta at any minute.

If only I had paid attention during that game.

The last thing I did was reread Mac's iso to see exactly what he said about you.

Still my game to lose. Sorry, Porscha.

Porscha not knowing Lag was dead really undermined the other derptells tbh

Mood

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:19 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:52 pm I'm mafia.

You should just listen to the things I say tbh

Yeah but Falcon said he was town.

Well played. You fooled both me and Max badly.

Gg regardless jfc

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:15 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

So…I picked wrong?

Yeah, fuck it.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Dragon D. Luffy
@Porscha

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

DDL, put us out of our misery if I choose wrong.

Fuck it.

Everything Porscha says about Falcon prior to his death:
In summary "I can't read Falcon, so I'm not gonna try" and then a very slight defense of Falcon.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pm if falcon is going over regardless, which he was, then does it really matter?

This is Porscha denying players their (correct) read on Rondo as not wolf because of the way he treated Falcon near eod.

None of this is lock wolf but it's not the best.

Falcon literally never mentions Porscha excepting quotes of quotes that he doesn't comment on.

I still think the antialignment DDL/Falcon posts exist. Let's look at that shit again. Let's look at Porscha and Falcon.

I'm taking the FOL game off the to do list. That shit is impossible to read, even on pc.

I wanna just vote Porscha so that you not immediately voting proves (fmpov) that you are the other townie.

But I know if I'm wrong on that, I lose and I'm not anywhere close to 100% sure I'm right.

I just want it to be over. I love this game but gah, I want it to end.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:24 am dragon a concern I have is that only jack is worried about whether I am still wolf or not. obv maf has tmi and knows whether I am or not so they wouldn't question it. but if you were other town and are not questioning whether I am town, then we would have already hammered jack (jack hammered?)

explain this

This is like....backwards?

I don't get it.

Later posts from Porscha today make it look like she thinks DDL is the wolf and I'm the townie. Which is weird combined with her "it's gotta be Jack, right?" and arguing against DDL's towncasing of me.

Like if Porscha is town and has correctly realized I'm the other townie and/or DDL is the wolf, she needs to explain how she came to that conclusion so that I can see that she's a townie telling the truth.

In absence of that explanation, it's super easy for me to read the thread and see a wolf who thinks she can't convince DDL that I'm the wolf so decides to gear up to convince me that DDL is the wolf.

And maybe it's not that! But I will fill in gaps with wolfy motivation if you don't explain your reads, people. Like at least 80% of the misyeets I push for when I'm town are this way with only 20% being some combination of powers, spew, etc. Please please please please do not be the townie who cannot explain themselves so I assume you're full of shit.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:31 pm (The townie mentality rn is to be completely lost )

Well, I'm fucking nailing that, right?

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:22 pm pretty sure I know who the wolf is btw so i'll let you 2 try to convince me it isn't yourselves

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:25 pm okay i'll give you a treat. I read 1 ISO between you 2 and decided from that. which iso? that's for you to find out

Are these things a townie says?

Like, I've been a townie in F3 and been like "Fuck you, I'm town. Case each other." That's empowering. That's townie.

But this is like...."I know who it is but convince me anyway" which sounds more like a wolf being like "I'mma pretend to have thoughts but really I'm just hoping you two try to eat each other alive."

Maybe.

That's the kinda thing that a townie could still say.

Here's the thing. Townies, just don't get misyeeted. Duh. Then we wouldn't be in this mess. Don't do opportunistic looking shit. Let us know what is in your brain. Even if what is in your brain is stupid.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:32 pm lmao okay well since it's just the 3 of us, surely it's jack right

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:40 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:38 pm Porscha why do you think it is Jack

i'm gonna be going thru iso's again but mostly cuz mac said so. you are the lowest living poster in the game atm and I didn't feel strongly about you either way earlier so i'm just like ............... idk maybe jack pulling the rug out from under me with the mizery convos the day she got voted off and then offing lag who I had said was personally lock town for me

Just ignores the anticase on me and immediately goes into "It has to be Jack" but when pressed for why, don't have a real reason. And also doesn't even townread DDL.

Yeah, that's kinda bad.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:57 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:40 pm Based on what I've thought all game it should be Porscha. If it's Jack I gotta give it HK for being a crazy busser.

wydm? hk being a "crazy busser" has anything to do with jack? literally the only thing hk could have done for bussing was going on falcon so what's the relation to jack

So...yeah, Porscha does immediately shoot down the idea of it being her. But she asks DDL for clarification what he's talking about. He responds immediately and then she....ignores it.

Idk. That's not any better but idk if it fits the narrative, really.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:36 am I was a wolf in Assassination Classroom with Mac, we fooled a lot of people and made it until the end but I don't know if you played that game.

I played a piss poor game and didn't play most of it and it's one of the only times I've ever been yeeted as a townie not in lylo.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:38 am Have you ever fooled me bad? I don't remember anymore. Like there were games you played with me as scum but I don't remember specifically being fooled bad in them.

Idk. You weren't in like my famous good wolf games.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:41 am I think I was yeeted in World Asunder? Like I spent all of that game negotiating with DH to make him win with us but eventually the gig went up and I took the bullet for the team, though we did win in the end. But maybe I'm mistaken here.

I suspected you, then I died, then you did and flipped wolf and I was like "good job, me" but idk how you died.

To do:
Iso DDL again
Iso Porscha's today and see if DDL's latest accusation has merit
Check Dizzy/Mac/Lag's words on both Porscha and DDL
Skim Porscha's two posted games (not including the easter one) to see if there's any clue to their wolfstyle vs townstyle I can use
Check to see if DDL has ever fooled me bad @Dragon D. Luffy has this ever happened? The only time I remember you being a wolf was in world asunder
Try not to cry
Cry a lot

Like I don't fucking know anything. I'm trying but I don't know.

I don't like Porscha stringing us along. Probably not even wolf indicative but I hate it.

I'm leaning towards the wolf being Portia but it's like 60-40 and I had the opposite 60-40 opinion when the day started. Wish Porcha had just voted last night tbh.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:10 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:49 am Pretend I voted Porscha here, then unvoted in a new post, then did the same for DDL.

“Wolves could have won if they were online. Sucks to be a wolf.”

But I’m too scared of the 1% chance that throws the game so I didn’t actually do it.

Imo only vote if you don't think you'll change. Because like you said, wolves can screw us while we are posting and it could create tricky situations where you think someone was online but they weren't so now you don't know if they were cleared or not.

Honestly locked voted would be better for gameplay here.

I 100% agree. I know it's pro-town to allow changed votes in lylo and I am town but from an overall enjoyment perspective, I do not like that I could potentially vote the other townie, remove my vote, crosspost with the wolf hammering and then win for the town in such an unfair way that undermines the actual game we've played of trying to find the wolf/blend in as the wolf.

I know it's a corner case and won't happen here. I just think it should be flat banned as an option.

Pretend I voted Porscha here, then unvoted in a new post, then did the same for DDL.

“Wolves could have won if they were online. Sucks to be a wolf.”

But I’m too scared of the 1% chance that throws the game so I didn’t actually do it.

I’ll use PC to iso on the FOL site later.

The Easter game is also not super helpful lmao a D1 yeet, a modkill and a resignation to defeat a 3 player wolfteam D2

Good mod, FOL is like one big 4000 post page

I wanna believe that DDL wouldn’t fool me and Mac so badly after all this time but I said I’d evaluate everything before voting. Ugh.

NAA’s iso was pretty unhelpful fmpov.

It’s still “maybe Porscha shoots here cause she isn’t paying attention” vs “maybe DDL shoots here because wifom.”

On paper, that’s points to t!DDL, w!Porcha but only slightly because I still don’t really know Porcha’s style.

Oh wait votes aren’t locked.

24 hour game without locked votes at lylo is fascist tbh

Mizery wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:04 pmI am town.

Why didn’t I just read this post?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:38 pm F*ck is a strong word. Its just that its a weird way to argue.

Like ok I was in falcon's kill and helped bury him. I have been putting all the effort I can muster. I have made a point to be as empathetic as possible and see both sides of everything. I'm also not sure if I ever kill NAA in the same day I vote for him, but I think we've already estabilished that nobody kills NAA so that's probably a nothingburger.

Uh... I don't have much more.

The NAA kill is probably the best indication I have that the wolf could be Porscha.

I should probably have reading what NAA actually said on the list.

Really, I’m just looking for an out so I can play Persona 3 instead of trying to solve this train wreck. :cheeky:

Like I told Miz, there’s no plan when she flipped town.

Porscha, if you absolutely know who you’re gonna vote for, just do it.

Cause then the game ends (if you’re town and vote town) or one townie immediately knows who the wolf is (if you’re the wolf, whoever you vote knows it when the game doesn’t end and if you’re town, you know you voted right if the game doesn’t end) and that at least focuses the game.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:35 pm Honestly letting the wolf survive alone for most of the game is already embarassed so Im already over that.

I just want to win.

Or at least if possible not get yeeted at lylo cuz I hate that dumb curse

I’d rather vote the wolf and get yeeted than vote the other townie, personally.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:31 pm Yeah, I'm gonna entirely decline trying to convince Porche I'm the townie.

If DDL is the wolf, then Porche has the information to determine I'm the townie and DDL is the wolf and I don't think anything I can say can significantly change that.

Which doesn't even get into that idk that's even the situation we're in. It's worth more for me to try to figure out the situation for myself cause if I vote the wolf, that's the least embarrassing scenario and most likely win.

waste of a post tbh

Sue me.

Yeah, I'm gonna entirely decline trying to convince Porche I'm the townie.

If DDL is the wolf, then Porche has the information to determine I'm the townie and DDL is the wolf and I don't think anything I can say can significantly change that.

Which doesn't even get into that idk that's even the situation we're in. It's worth more for me to try to figure out the situation for myself cause if I vote the wolf, that's the least embarrassing scenario and most likely win.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:25 pm This isn't the way to solve but I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get it in the isos (though I'll iso DDL anyway) but at this point it's like, who would I feel less dumb losing to? :wowee:

I would hope you'd feel less dumb losing to DDL since you town locked him day 1 and didnt look back and I've shown my ass on repeat, day after day

I'd feel pretty stupid for believing a pile of fake derptells and I'd feel pretty stupid for letting a D1 wolf busser who makes it to lylo win. That's part of the problem.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:25 pm okay i'll give you a treat. I read 1 ISO between you 2 and decided from that. which iso? that's for you to find out

DDL's because his is shorter and you wanna stick it to the man by not isoing the player who kept asking you to iso him.

@Porscha

Link me to some examples of your town and wolf games?

This isn't the way to solve but I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get it in the isos (though I'll iso DDL anyway) but at this point it's like, who would I feel less dumb losing to? :wowee:

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:22 pm pretty sure I know who the wolf is btw so i'll let you 2 try to convince me it isn't yourselves

Just spoil us already.

I don't actually hate this. I love this game. I just don't know who the wolf is and that's stressful in a "this is just a game" kinda way.

But on the other hand, even if I get yeeted, I don't lose my unyeetable meta cause it is lylo so like no pressure and no idea.

I really hate this.

The player I know pretty darn well who had a D1 that I (and Mac) basically locked him town for but is still here in lylo

vs

The player I don't know at all that has dropped 18 derptowntells and whose iso has nothing obviously suspicious but also I don't know them well enough to call them clear

I really have no idea.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:55 pm if i'm wolf here I off lag so i'm asking myself why lag is still here