The Syndicate

sprityo wrote:I'm inclined to believe fredwood is town based off his change in style this game so far.

He seems pretty Civ to me. And he almost NEVER seems Civ to me, so I am not sure if that's good or bad...

Fredwood wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Fredwood wrote: IR may just naturally buddy with Gfish since they are buddies, so I'm always careful when trying to decipher their interactions. Still I don't think scum teammate IR and Gfish buddy that hard in their first exposure to so many players, I would think opposite no? Maybe another Realmser can weigh in on this.

RE: IR & Gfish. Quite the opposite. Those guys notoriously gun for each other. Nothing friendly about their play towards each other traditionally.

Fair enough, I can re-assess IR. I usually end up playing in Gfish games not being in a game with gfish (the downside of him being my favorite mod...sorry guys), so I may not have the most complete read on their dichotomy.

What do you make of them buddying in this context then? Do you buy them as scummates?

I would say that their buddying is not indicative of scum mates (though I do not know exactly what buddying you're referring to). I think that since they know each other IRL and we're playing with basically half new people, it's natural to sort of stick together. I mean I even want to defend JoH when Synd people are rude to him, imagine that...

Fredwood wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Fredwood wrote: IR may just naturally buddy with Gfish since they are buddies, so I'm always careful when trying to decipher their interactions. Still I don't think scum teammate IR and Gfish buddy that hard in their first exposure to so many players, I would think opposite no? Maybe another Realmser can weigh in on this.

RE: IR & Gfish. Quite the opposite. Those guys notoriously gun for each other. Nothing friendly about their play towards each other traditionally.

Fair enough, I can re-assess IR. I usually end up playing in Gfish games not being in a game with gfish (the downside of him being my favorite mod...sorry guys), so I may not have the most complete read on their dichotomy.

What do you make of them buddying in this context then? Do you buy them as scummates?

I would say that their buddying is not indicative of scum mates (though I do not know exactly what buddying you're referring to). I think that since they know each other IRL and we're playing with basically half new people, it's natural to sort of stick together. I mean I even want to defend JoH when Synd people are rude to him, imagine that...

Adam - posts
CaptainNifty - posts
Dom - posts
DrWilgy - posts
Dyslexicon - posts
Epignosis - posts - Claimed Neutral Geth (can align with Town or Reaper)
Fredwood - posts - Claimed some townie... by accident, allegedly...
Immortal_Raven - posts
Jackofhearts2005 - posts - Probably scum
Long Con - posts
MovingPictures07 - posts
nutella - posts
Silver Lantern - posts
sprityo - posts
S~V~S - posts
TonyStarkPrime - posts

DEAD

thellama73 - posts - Dr. Karin Chakwas - Lynched on Day 1
colonialbob - posts - EDI - Killed on Night 1
gfishfunk - posts - Donnel Udina - Lynched on Day 2

Anyone else claim so far?

Here is my rainbow:

Adam
Dom - posts
DrWilgy - posts
Fredwood - posts - Claimed some townie... by accident, allegedly...
MovingPictures07 - posts

CaptainNifty - posts
Dyslexicon - posts
Epignosis - posts - Claimed Neutral Geth (can align with Town or Reaper)
sprityo - posts
TonyStarkPrime - posts


Immortal_Raven - posts
Long Con - posts
nutella - posts


Jackofhearts2005 - posts
S~V~S - posts

Taking the liberty of paraphrasing

Jack: "Silver isn't hunting, ergo he's scum silver."

I openly admit that I have not led and I have not been hunting at all.

But you know what stops Town Silver from hunting Jack? Constantly being on the defensive from your BS accusations. You know that you know how to push my buttons like nobody's business and you know that by pushing on me, you will keep me tied up from participating with the town.

That right there is reason #1 why you're scum.

Fredwood wrote: IR may just naturally buddy with Gfish since they are buddies, so I'm always careful when trying to decipher their interactions. Still I don't think scum teammate IR and Gfish buddy that hard in their first exposure to so many players, I would think opposite no? Maybe another Realmser can weigh in on this.

RE: IR & Gfish. Quite the opposite. Those guys notoriously gun for each other. Nothing friendly about their play towards each other traditionally.

[quote="Jackofhearts2005"]
As for Silver, here is my case against him. Summarized, he's acting like scum Silver, not town Silver. He's going through the motions, taking easy ways out, not explaining himself. He's throwing fits but they feel forced. He's not doing anything to help the town because he's not town. He also refused to vote Epi or GFish.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... er#p357024
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... er#p356785
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... er#p356734
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... er#p356882
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... er#p355632
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... er#p356076
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... er#p356238
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... er#p356295

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If I am scum, then why isn't the opposing mafia killing me Jack? I mean, it's not like anyone was eager to jump on your little Silver train that couldn't roll 2 feet anyway, so it's not like I am gonna be lynched soon at this rate. Meanwhile, the mafias are loving all the distraction cause heat isn't on them.

If I am so obvious Reaper or Cereberus, why isn't the opposing mafia killing me tonight?

I am Civ, so you know what: HEY MAFIAS I AM ON THE OPPOSING MAFIA, COME AT ME BROS!

Watch, I will bet you neither mafia comes after me tonight either.

You know why, cause I am not mafia.

And meanwhile, you keep gunning for me like a a bunch of starving diabetic fat kids at an all you can eat cupcake buffet, and distracting the town with how I am not "town silver", when I linked like 10 games for everyone to see with their own two eyes and judge for themselves. Because scum Silver would surely go through that trouble, right? The guy who mails it in as scum?

Dyslexicon wrote:Immediate thoughts on teamed with Gfish is Jack and Raven. Jack because I read him strongly as scum and I recall Gfish ninja switch to Llama to make it possible for Jack to save himself from being lynched D1. I also think Silver is scum but more likely Reaper because of his post about Epi, he didn't seem concerned at all, but I don't think Jack and Silver are teamed. I mean, it's possible but it's wow much bus.

This and Nutella's earlier post saying the same thing are such BS... If I was Reaper, I would be trying to distance myself from Epi not be so dumb as to defend him when he is essentially a neutral survivor that cannot win with one of the mafias.

Epi's claim was sorta suicide anyway. Once we get to day 3 or 4 (or whatever where he has to pick) if No Reaper are dead and town is sort of decimated, he will choose Reaper, and thus town will possibly assume this and lynch him, or Cereberus will take him out. If Reaper is decimated he jumps on Alliance. It's lazy as hell to suggest that I would support him for the possibility that I am mafia and hope he might side with me 3 days from now. Just a bad argument really.

Fredwood wrote:I might be giving Jack too much credit though, but would he sacrifice a gridlock with a non-team member to bus a team member in order to survive a lynch?

Yes he would. It is a strong play cause not only does it make you seem like you're not on the teammate's mafia, but the opposing mafia possibly won't be gunning for you right away since they'll probably think the same thing.

Fredwood wrote:So Epi, Wilgy and Nut are all for sure not Cerberus.

I'm willing to say Jack isn't Cerberus.

Possibly, but this down here, sure looks a some teammate distancing from a scummer that knows he's headed to the gallows:

gfishfunk wrote:So, all we really need now are two to three people to switch to JoH. Any takers?

What is a legacy post?

I don't care if it feeds his piddly ego, but jacks play here is textbook 2 player mafia scum play. Point the finger at the player you think will distract the most and self implode while buddying up to every townie. "Were on the same team bros".

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Fred

Please stop. We're on the same side and I can't stand it.

How on earth could you possibly know that you and Fred are on the same team? What a scummy thing to say in a game with 2 mafias lol.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Yeah, gfishfunk is a liar. Who the hell uses a block / kill BEFORE an alignment check.

Lies.

Obviously you have never played with Gfish...

He does dumb shit all the time, lololol.

Yeah but not this dumb.

That's a safeclaim.

I don't doubt that Gfish of making such a dumb play on purpose, but it does seem way more irresponsible than he'd probably be with a copping. Plus do you honestly believe he wouldn't cop, you, me, or IR? I don't think so...

I still think you're scum tho, so stop buddying up to me, I already told you it was your tell.

Fredwood wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I'm still afraid that vote shenanigans will fuck up having a lynch.

What are you whining on about? Can you quote what role has vote shenanigans that you're concerned about? So that others can understand without stirring up a panic for no reason?

lol...I chicken littled it earlier, there is at least 2 known vote manipulators...Theres 3 possible reaper vote manipulators, for sure there's one, possibly 2 in that faction. The Thorian is a vote manipulator, and I believe there's another alliance role or two that are vote manipulators.

So, there's almost as much chance for vote shenanigans as there is for roleblocking.

Do they nerf the lynch all together or just make it so that the next leader is lynched? Cause if so I am staying on JackofScums2005.

BTW, "Tuck and roll Bitches!"

LINKI (am I doing this right?): I am on the east coast and it's 5:15 here.

Dyslexicon wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Mainly cause that's my job...

Lulz.

You have no idea how much I like the line "tuck and roll bitches". It immediately catapulted Epi to like my favorite person on this site, but I kinda feel like a big sibling having to defend his little siblings here when he starts to kick my people while they're down not just to him but any non HCR people... Wierd I know, I am trying to shake it, lol.

Does the day close at 7 EST?

Dyslexicon wrote:I'm still afraid that vote shenanigans will fuck up having a lynch.

What are you whining on about? Can you quote what role has vote shenanigans that you're concerned about? So that others can understand without stirring up a panic for no reason?

Epignosis wrote: Tell me: How demoralizing is it to have your first kill of the game wasted on someone you don't need dead to win...and you couldn't even succeed at that?

I really want to like you Epi, cause you used a really cool line like "tuck and roll bitches", but if you could not be such a dickbag to the people from my home site, that would be cool...


Mainly cause that's my job...

Gfish is not looking good but Jack voting for him makes me weary too. Opposing mafias or one team mate jumping on another's bandwagon?

Epignosis wrote:Yeah, gfishfunk is a liar. Who the hell uses a block / kill BEFORE an alignment check.

Lies.

Obviously you have never played with Gfish...

He does dumb shit all the time, lololol.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:I just read the Geth Role. Frankly, I don't have an issue with him. I think that the fact that he claimed obviously means he plans to side with the Alliance.

I got some swampland in Florida to sell you.

Lol Silver = Reaver

If I were Mafia Jack, you wouldn't have lived past N1.

You don't know how sad it makes me that I'm not the vig...

Fredwood wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Mordin Solus
You are the very model of a Salarian scientist! And since you were recruited by Shepard to stop the Reaper threat, you have a variety of abilities you can use during the game.

Incinerate - One shot roleblock with a chance to kill your target.
Neural Shock - One shot roleblock nexus (anyone targeting you fails in their action)
Salarian Scientist - Two shot alignment cop

Might as well just quote at this point.

Incinerate. And before you give me hell for my choice of night action, I hit non-town damnit. It was a great night action.

Not really...if you fucking copped him we would have bypassed the whole Vega debacle.


Also...I don't see any kill protection in your roleblock.

Insert Siren Gif...

Heh, is this a bust Gfish?

DrWilgy wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:
To EVERYONE we will gain mpre info from a JoH lynch than an Epi lynch.

We would gain the most info from a gfish lynch.

Isn't info what all civs thirst for?

To be frank at this point hasn't there been enough back and forth (guessing here) that we will get solid info from any of these lynches.

Cause if so, stop trying to make it seem like one is better than another. That just makes you seem like a team mate trying to protect Epi.

Can you explain a good reason for his claim as a baddie? For him to outright risk counter claim?
He
will
not
die
from
this

Meaning we gain nothing.

Who is "HIS"/"HIM" and can you explain exactly WHAT he will not die from?

Are you always this damned vague? Holy cow...

gfishfunk wrote:

Fredwood wrote:He claimed one of 28 roleblocks

I claimed a role block with self protection.

Is Epi only after you cause you claimed to have blocked him?

Does a kill attempt appear on him in the write up?

DrWilgy wrote:
To EVERYONE we will gain mpre info from a JoH lynch than an Epi lynch.

We would gain the most info from a gfish lynch.

Isn't info what all civs thirst for?

To be frank at this point hasn't there been enough back and forth (guessing here) that we will get solid info from any of these lynches.

Cause if so, stop trying to make it seem like one is better than another. That just makes you seem like a team mate trying to protect Epi.

gfishfunk wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Okay obviously I am not gonna catch so I will try starting from the end and working my way back.

Hey Silver. Want to help lynch a possible Reaver and probable Scummy neutral? Vote Epignosis!

I really think Jack is scum, so I prefer to vote for him over anyone else.

What do we have on Epi that makes you think he's scum? All I saw (and admittedly I did not catch up) was a silly suggestion on his part that someone RBing a kill and coming forward was a reason to vote for you (I am paraphrasing), which quite frankly is kinda dumb, but not lynch worthy.

Also, did you answer my question of why you alleged there was no bodyguard in the game? IS IMPORTANT!

Epi has admitted to be the neutral role Gesh. And Reavers, Reapers. Whatever. I like Firefly better.

The bodyguard was a misread of the role that died last night.

Thanks for answering.

I just read the Geth Role. Frankly, I don't have an issue with him. I think that the fact that he claimed obviously means he plans to side with the Alliance. Why on earth claim otherwise? Is there another issue other then he *might* side with the mafia? Not to minimize the significance of that, but I hate to punish a neutral when they can help the town. Plus if he dissipated a kill, that only helps us no? If a kill gets MDed at him and it's disspiated that only helps us. What is the compelling reason to lynch him?

Did you claim?

Fredwood wrote: My suspicions are independent of Dom's and SVS. I'm pretty sure I explained it, Adam followed the logic. It's a combination of cost/benefit assessment and uncharacteristic opportunistic play. I really didn't like the switch to Epi from Silver, If you're that sure on Silver you stay on Silver and try building your case, especially in plurality. We're not at a point were we have to play it safe (even if we think Epi is a "safe" vote) we can afford to take a few risks. The more I think about an Epi lynch, the more it sounds dumb because we still have plays that provide a greater benefit then maintaining the status quo. Epi's only a lynch if we have no better alternatives.

Cause he's scum and he knows that once I come up town he's cooked. He's just desperately trying to take any attention away from himself, by any means necessary. Typical scum Jack.

OMFG F this Link crap...

Epignosis wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Okay obviously I am not gonna catch so I will try starting from the end and working my way back.

Hey Silver. Want to help lynch a possible Reaver and probable Scummy neutral? Vote Epignosis!

A reaver? What the hell is that?

You are Cerberus, and I think Long Con is too. You tried to kill me. It failed. So you made up this bullshit role block story.

You are bad.

Why would his kill on you fail?

gfishfunk wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Okay obviously I am not gonna catch so I will try starting from the end and working my way back.

Hey Silver. Want to help lynch a possible Reaver and probable Scummy neutral? Vote Epignosis!

I really think Jack is scum, so I prefer to vote for him over anyone else.

What do we have on Epi that makes you think he's scum? All I saw (and admittedly I did not catch up) was a silly suggestion on his part that someone RBing a kill and coming forward was a reason to vote for you (I am paraphrasing), which quite frankly is kinda dumb, but not lynch worthy.

Also, did you answer my question of why you alleged there was no bodyguard in the game? IS IMPORTANT!

Fredwood wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Can we aim to at leas make Gfish the alternate wagon?

Hmm... a thought. I'm damn near a unanimous town read. Yet little to no one is voting with me.

Who legitimately thinks that I am just wrong out of this group.

I think the bigger issue for me is the vote manipulation. Gfish is a good candidate, right now we have such a wide list of suspects that adding another leaves us open to vote manipulation having a greater effect on the outcome. I did list fish as an asterisk on my main post, but seeing as how nobody is really moving to a consensus of one or two people, pushing him felt like a dangerous proposition.

Jack moving to Epi of all the other options just keeps adding to the reason why I want to vote for Jack, despite my Risk/Reward analysis. Jack's defense doesn't feel like he's defending himself but trying to get us to look at other people we want to lynch. I think a townie Jack sticks to his guns on Silver, not switch to epi. There's been plenty of times I recall Jack not going for the easy lynch when he was town, going for the easy lynch now is suspect.

Completely agree. Jack trying to point the finger at me does not sit well at all. Look how he left me alone in the last game we played on here and we were both town. Jack pushing on me, is a meta play trying to get me to blow up and seem scummy or just to take attention off himself. It's a pretty heads up play on his part.

Okay obviously I am not gonna catch so I will try starting from the end and working my way back.

Based on some quick glances I see that people are questioning my behavior in other games so I will post a bunch of games:

1) Me as Neutral SK:
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=570323

2) Me as town:
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=571559
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=567840
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555412
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=570749

3) Me as mafia:
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=563733
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=570749
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=549529

And if anyone wants to peruse any other games I have been in check our home site forums here:
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=139

Dom wrote:POLL: Do you think Jack was really making a fucking rainbow list, using color codes that are all in HEX (right-- that's HEX right?) in quick reply?
That sounds like some serious bullshit to me.

I like your aggresiveness Dom, and I too think Jack is playing scummy, but I think you need to consider that some of us HCR folks do not know the mechanics and rules of posting here and perhaps you cannot attribute such meta things to us. For example, I have no idea what HEX is.

Is it not possible to do the HEX thing in quick reply? Though I do know that Jack has played here a few games, so that's something to consider.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Dom wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Jesus Christ. If I didn't already know your town game makes no sense to me after Unfortunate Events...

Don't discredit me because I suspect you. Refute it with actual specifics. Don't complain that nutella is too vague but not provide specifics on why I'm wrong.

No.

You're claiming to magically know I lied about making a rainbow. You're either convinced I'm scum and there's nothing I can possibly do about that or you're pretending and your town play as seen in Unfortunate Events is so far off what I understand that I don't have any confidence in my ability to catch you.

You can vote for me if you like but I don't see the merit in engaging with you. I'll take my chances in surviving the day with one extra vote on me.

Town Jack doesn't back down. Look Jack, I can play this game too...

gfishfunk wrote:Right now, my topic scum pick is Epignosis for a simple reason.

Epi was pinging some of the syndicate and did not vote. I targeted Epi with a role block. Only one kill occurred last night, and there should have been two (see the roles in he beginning). With no doctor and no bodyguard, the lack of a kill is indicative of a role block.

No bodyguard? Based on what Fish? Source please.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Silver

You're playing much more like bad you and much less like good you. I know you'd have no qualms about killing Bob on night one.

Why should I not vote for you and who should I vote for instead?

I have absolutely no qualms about killing Bob (or anyone else) on any night and I have zero problems admitting that.

Obviously many of the HCR folks are assuming I am scum, and I have no problems with it cause if it keeps other townies alive, I am for it. You know the best argument for me being town? I am still alive. You'd think that with 2 mafias whichever mafia I was not on would have hit me last night. But since I am town, both sides assumed the other mafia would kill me, and neither did. That's why I am town.

You're one of my top scum reads. I don't like how you have failed to address Dom's accusation, and I see your pointing the finger at me as nothing more than trying to take interest off yourself. SVS's continual pushing on me with her silly argument, time after time after time after time is also a huge red flag.

S~V~S wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

TonyStarkPrime wrote:I'm going to suggest that others who have played more with him answer this, but Silver as maf tends to play things off more and be a little less direct while maintaining a general offensive persona, where town Silver can and sometimes will verbally assault you for voting for him.

I second this. Silver Town has a gallon jub of gasoline. Silver Scum is reserved (for Silver).

Where does Silver who told me my post is garbage come in on the spectrum?

He has very much felt to me like a person who wishes to squash discussion.

So because I don't entertain your bullshit argument I want to squash discussion? Do you litter every game with this load of garbage?

gfishfunk wrote: I second this. Silver Town has a gallon jub of gasoline. Silver Scum is reserved (for Silver).

Hey Gfish, when did YOU stop beating your wife?

My god, everyone toting this bullshit "Silver is being too passive" line is full of it. I either explode and act like a god damn powder keg or I'm not town? How am I supposed to react to that crap? I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. You guys make it seem like I have never played a game where I am passive and skate as town...

Gotta drive home so I will catch up later tonight, I am putting down a vote on Jack cause I do not want to miss another vote, and I am almost certain he is scum based on his game play up to where I've read.

S~V~S wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

S~V~S wrote: So tell me the difference between *town* Silver defensiveness and overreaction and *baddie* Silver defensiveness and overreaction reaction. There must be one, and if he is town he will welcome it being put out there.

Nah SVS, I'm just too damn good for people to have a ready to order meta read on me of when I'm town vs when I am not.

I mean, are you seriously suggesting that there must be a quantifiable way to determine if I'm town or evil based on simple behavior anyone can pinpoint? And you claim that I would welcome that as town? No, I wouldn't welcome that as town because no one plays town all the time and only a lame-o who doesn't want a challenge would want such a thing to exist. What a load of garbage...

I was suggesting it because YOU said that was a tell for you. So yes, there could be a quantifiable difference from how you behave when sincere to how you behave when insincere. That is how I play, i look for insincerity and it's related behavioral markers. And I would think that if you DO have behavioral tells you would want to know about it so you could fix them and improve your baddie game.

But what do I know? I am apparently only a garbage peddler

Please quote for me where I say it was a tell for me. All I said is that having played a game with me (where I was Civ and him as maf) LC should not be surprised that I am overly defensive. It's just kinda my natural reaction to things, whether I am town or scum. I.e. it should not be indicative of alignment. He was saying it was suspicious, I was calling BS on his suspicion.

S~V~S wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Silver Lantern - too quiet, not enough reads, not enough anything but one (phoned in?) defensive rant. Looks like scum Silver. Shoulda pushed on him instead of Nut but boss was watching so I wasn't thorough. Like IR, I'm play with pushing him off until later cause I tend to be good at reading him.

Yep. Jack is definitely scum. The opposing mafia or the vig should kill him tonight.

In open setups we don't always role reveal an NK on death. The gameplay section on the first page says lynched roles are revealed, it says nothing about NKed roles.

We learn more from lynching than NKs if that is so. Do you guys usually play only closed set up games?

We do play only Closed Setups, and NKs are only hidden with a janitor role.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Silver Lantern - too quiet, not enough reads, not enough anything but one (phoned in?) defensive rant. Looks like scum Silver. Shoulda pushed on him instead of Nut but boss was watching so I wasn't thorough. Like IR, I'm play with pushing him off until later cause I tend to be good at reading him.

Yep. Jack is definitely scum. The opposing mafia or the vig should kill him tonight.

Cause I think you're bad?

*POSTING AS I CATCH UP*

Sorry if I fail to play your BS rhetorical question game Jack. Do you really think that dumb mind trick is gonna work on me? Where is the Toydarian Gif...

How about you try to answer Dom's allegation of:

That's some bullshit.
You made a rainbow list in the quick reply?

bad.

Really liking Dom's aggresiveness.

BTW, April 4th is my B-day so if you're thinking of killing me or lynching me, at least wait till April 5...

Blocks and MDs are welcomed fwiw...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Silver Lantern - too quiet, not enough reads, not enough anything but one (phoned in?) defensive rant. Looks like scum Silver. Shoulda pushed on him instead of Nut but boss was watching so I wasn't thorough. Like IR, I'm play with pushing him off until later cause I tend to be good at reading him.

Yep. Jack is definitely scum. The opposing mafia or the vig should kill him tonight.

Fredwood wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Fredwood wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:
That's some mighty bold talk for a one eyed fatman...

FILL YOUR HANDS YOU SONOVABITCH!!1

I can never get one past this damned goat herder...

That one got past me.

Score! Suck it, Fredwood's Goats...

Fredwood wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:
That's some mighty bold talk for a one eyed fatman...

FILL YOUR HANDS YOU SONOVABITCH!!1

I can never get one past this damned goat herder...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

S~V~S wrote: So tell me the difference between *town* Silver defensiveness and overreaction and *baddie* Silver defensiveness and overreaction reaction. There must be one, and if he is town he will welcome it being put out there.

Nah SVS, I'm just too damn good for people to have a ready to order meta read on me of when I'm town vs when I am not.

I mean, are you seriously suggesting that there must be a quantifiable way to determine if I'm town or evil based on simple behavior anyone can pinpoint? And you claim that I would welcome that as town? No, I wouldn't welcome that as town because no one plays town all the time and only a lame-o who doesn't want a challenge would want such a thing to exist. What a load of garbage...

Do you throw fits when you're scum, Silver?

Hey, at least I don't Buddy up to townies when I'm scum and then feign surprise when everyone is on to my scum tell you predictable bottle washer.

TonyStarkPrime wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

TonyStarkPrime wrote:

Long Con wrote: 1. This would be the reaction that tickled my suspiciometer. Defensive, with a thin slice of OMGUS at the end.

I'm sure someone has already said something, but this is natural Silver. It is still Is valid reaction, but I don't put too much stock into it.

So tell me the difference between *town* Silver defensiveness and overreaction and *baddie* Silver defensiveness and overreaction reaction. There must be one, and if he is town he will welcome it being put out there.

I'm going to suggest that others who have played more with him answer this, but Silver as maf tends to play things off more and be a little less direct while maintaining a general offensive persona, where town Silver can and sometimes will verbally assault you for voting for him.

That's some mighty bold talk for a one eyed fatman...

S~V~S wrote: So tell me the difference between *town* Silver defensiveness and overreaction and *baddie* Silver defensiveness and overreaction reaction. There must be one, and if he is town he will welcome it being put out there.

Nah SVS, I'm just too damn good for people to have a ready to order meta read on me of when I'm town vs when I am not.

I mean, are you seriously suggesting that there must be a quantifiable way to determine if I'm town or evil based on simple behavior anyone can pinpoint? And you claim that I would welcome that as town? No, I wouldn't welcome that as town because no one plays town all the time and only a lame-o who doesn't want a challenge would want such a thing to exist. What a load of garbage...

Long Con wrote: Actually, neither, but I did remember in the meantime. You're that defensive guy!

And sorry if I fubar'ed your S~V~S interrogation. Not the first time, and won't be the last, that I insert myself into such a conversation.

Meh, like I said, her response was rather satisfying, so I'm sure there was nothing there anyway.

As for Gfish's inquiry, take it as a cop out if you want, but I get a pretty town vibe from you based on promoting discussion.