The Syndicate

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.

Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:32 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:10 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

So are you gonna ignore all the stuff that heavily contradicts JJJ being scum which I mentioned last DP? Just asking.

I dont think you understand pressure votes.

But yes since I literally cannot remember anything you said about it off the top of my head

There was zero implication that there was a pressure vote in that post.

I'll go quote it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:53 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm Preferred alternative, Dragomir?

Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.

I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.

@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:10 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

So are you gonna ignore all the stuff that heavily contradicts JJJ being scum which I mentioned last DP? Just asking.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 7:01 pm Gemma was lynched. She was Town.

It is Night 3. You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.

Called it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:00 pm novaselinenever has been killed. He was Town.

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Called it!

I don't care if you take this as a scum trying to get cred from correctly town reading players who flipped town or something like that.

I stay firm on my suspicion against Jessie, Owner, DDL.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:54 pm Player s.....

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:54 pm Player s.....

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:40 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.

No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles

Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.

Is that what you are doing right now?

My case is different because I'm calling out something that doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't you have your doubts on a lynch that seems to be happening too easy?

Also. It makes no sense for a scum to try to derail a mislynch.

So It's a mislynch?

I never said that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm Preferred alternative, Dragomir?

Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:34 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.

No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles

Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.

Well the wagon died and moved to Ultra. I dont think anyone like, outwordly opposed it until Day 2

Hmm, aight.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.

No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles

Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.

Is that what you are doing right now?

My case is different because I'm calling out something that doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't you have your doubts on a lynch that seems to be happening too easy?

Also. It makes no sense for a scum to try to derail a mislynch.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.

No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.

Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles

Eh, town reading her doesn't mean much. If they tried to stop the wagon is what I'm interested in.

From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.

What are your guys' thoughts on Jessie? There's not much discussion surrounding him.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:25 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:24 pm No. I'm pointing out a bunch of stuff that you have to ignore to have a scum read on you.

Your tone is one of absolute confidence, and that is unnerving.

Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with that?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:12 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:04 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:00 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:53 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:51 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?

I meant Mac.

Were you against a Mac lynch before?

I don't recall making an opinion on lynching Mac before now.

You dont need to make an opinion itt to still have an opinion in your head.

So let me ask again, were you against a Mac lynch before?

Oh wait, I thought you asked weren't you against it as if I had said so in the thread.

Yeah, I was.

Ah I see. My bad I didnt think about the awkward phrasing.

Was there a reason why you were against it? Like anything he did that you were like “i dont really wanna lynch there right now”

Yeah, we were mind melding on DDL a lot and he was up for his lynch as well so I felt good about him.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:00 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:53 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:51 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...

Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?

I meant Mac.

Were you against a Mac lynch before?

I don't recall making an opinion on lynching Mac before now.

You dont need to make an opinion itt to still have an opinion in your head.

So let me ask again, were you against a Mac lynch before?

Oh wait, I thought you asked weren't you against it as if I had said so in the thread.

Yeah, I was.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:51 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...

Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?

I meant Mac.

Were you against a Mac lynch before?

I don't recall making an opinion on lynching Mac before now.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...

Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?

I meant Mac.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:45 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:30 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:40 am Dragomir is 16.

He can't have been playing this game for long.

I've played it for almost 2 years now.

Wow.

I was 13 wheb I played my first rl mafia game but I really sucked at it. You're doing well.

Yeah, we all sucked at our first mafia game lol. Except Nova.

Thanks

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:44 pm Ah I remember when I started playing mafia at 16.

Even if Dragomir has been playing since he was even more baby than he is now

What?

I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:36 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:36 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 3:32 pm I'm starting to like Mac less and less

Same here. But scum reading him conflicts with my scum read on DDL so still slight town reading him.

How exactly?

Because Mac was also going after DDL's head D1 alongside me. If one is scum, the other can't be unless you want me to believe that Mac faked it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:31 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:30 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:40 am Dragomir is 16.

He can't have been playing this game for long.

I've played it for almost 2 years now.

I didn't realize you were so young! I apologize if I have been a jerk at any point, and we're all glad to have you aboard.

It's aight dude. You weren't being a jerk at all.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 3:32 pm I'm starting to like Mac less and less

Same here. But scum reading him conflicts with my scum read on DDL so still slight town reading him.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:27 pm @Dragomir - All roles and alignments are randomized. Any role can be any alignment. For some of them there are modifiers if the role rolls mafia. The end. What does this mean to you?

Well then. That changes a lot and BACK does Owner go into my scum reads. I can also see Genma being scum now, same for Lux.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:40 am Dragomir is 16.

He can't have been playing this game for long.

I've played it for almost 2 years now.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:23 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:21 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:25 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:21 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:19 pm
You realize role claims arent alignment indicative

Yeah, but the out of nowhere role claims y'all pulled off I can only attribute to a what a townie would do not scum. Also, tracker does not make sense to be scum.

There is no role that "doesn't make sense to be scum". All roles are assigned alignments. Even the cop can be scum.

Doesn't mean the host would do such a thing. Cop and Watcher are useless for mafia.

The host has no say in it, unless you're implying that roles weren't properly randomized. Like what do you not understand from "role alignments are randomly assigned"?

The alignment cops are also Ninja, is a Ninja useful for Town?

Wait what? So it's not like on OJ where we make roles and give them certain alignments but what overall role you get is randomized?

So yes?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:22 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:19 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:45 am The post above was blunt on purpose.

Truth is that last game I had a strong feeling Jay was civ and this time the feeling is missing.

He's doing stuff but I'm not quite feeling his strong presence in the thread as I normally should. He's not at the driving wheel.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I guess the biggest deterrent to this is the Ultra relation but eh, that stuff could be faked.

So you find it logical that Ultra would decide that the person he will make his fake case on D1 will be his buddy, this bussing his own buddy D1 for some town cred or distancing? Ultra knew full well that he could make a good enough case on JJJ to actually pick up a solid wagon on him and get him lynched, but you're just gonna throw that aside?

Well this looks like TMI.

No. I'm pointing out a bunch of stuff that you have to ignore to have a scum read on you.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:25 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:21 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:19 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:13 pm

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

You realize role claims arent alignment indicative

Yeah, but the out of nowhere role claims y'all pulled off I can only attribute to a what a townie would do not scum. Also, tracker does not make sense to be scum.

There is no role that "doesn't make sense to be scum". All roles are assigned alignments. Even the cop can be scum.

Doesn't mean the host would do such a thing. Cop and Watcher are useless for mafia.

The host has no say in it, unless you're implying that roles weren't properly randomized. Like what do you not understand from "role alignments are randomly assigned"?

The alignment cops are also Ninja, is a Ninja useful for Town?

Wait what? So it's not like on OJ where we make roles and give them certain alignments but what overall role you get is randomized?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:45 am The post above was blunt on purpose.

Truth is that last game I had a strong feeling Jay was civ and this time the feeling is missing.

He's doing stuff but I'm not quite feeling his strong presence in the thread as I normally should. He's not at the driving wheel.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I guess the biggest deterrent to this is the Ultra relation but eh, that stuff could be faked.

So you find it logical that Ultra would decide that the person he will make his fake case on D1 will be his buddy, this bussing his own buddy D1 for some town cred or distancing? Ultra knew full well that he could make a good enough case on JJJ to actually pick up a solid wagon on him and get him lynched, but you're just gonna throw that aside?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:25 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:21 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:19 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:13 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:11 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:25 pm Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

You realize role claims arent alignment indicative

Yeah, but the out of nowhere role claims y'all pulled off I can only attribute to a what a townie would do not scum. Also, tracker does not make sense to be scum.

There is no role that "doesn't make sense to be scum". All roles are assigned alignments. Even the cop can be scum.

Doesn't mean the host would do such a thing. Cop and Watcher are useless for mafia.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 10:04 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 7:40 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:42 pm The first thing you do when you come into the thread is announce to everyone you protected JJJ? There is a deliberate intention behind that.

Either she’s scum clutching for that sweet sweet towncred for that no kill

Or she’s just town going “look!! I helped!!!”

Well yeah, there's obvious intention behind it but it came out of nowhere and wasn't warranted, thus it being random.

>came from nowhere
>wasn’t warranted
>day starts
>no kill
>protection ability
>:thonk:

So what if there was no kill and you have a protection ability? Does that somehow warrant you needing to claim your role?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:42 pm The first thing you do when you come into the thread is announce to everyone you protected JJJ? There is a deliberate intention behind that.

Either she’s scum clutching for that sweet sweet towncred for that no kill

Or she’s just town going “look!! I helped!!!”

Well yeah, there's obvious intention behind it but it came out of nowhere and wasn't warranted, thus it being random.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:24 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:17 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:04 pm Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

Run i liked the tone of how he came in. Pretty carefree.

Gemma I’m not attributing her claim to town points and is scummy imo.

Hbu

I don't know man, Run's tone strike me as someone informed rather than a townie starved of free-time and constantly running behind and out of the loop. He's too cold, his posts are sharp lol even with non game related content. His Drago vote and the attempt at justifying it afterwards was pretty underwhelming.

What do you say to lynching Run?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:13 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:11 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:25 pm Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

Oh yeah, Mac and Speed are ok in my book.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:19 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:15 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:13 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:11 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:25 pm Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

You realize role claims arent alignment indicative

Yeah, but the out of nowhere role claims y'all pulled off I can only attribute to a what a townie would do not scum. Also, tracker does not make sense to be scum.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:17 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:04 pm Talk to me about Run and Gemma, Lux.

Run i liked the tone of how he came in. Pretty carefree.

Gemma I’m not attributing her claim to town points and is scummy imo.

Hbu

@bold What? Explain to me why a scum would have pulled off what Genma did.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:13 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:11 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:25 pm Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Who else do you think might be civ that isn't me?

Me, JJJ, Genma, Owner and Lux. The last 3 are only based on their role claims.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:47 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:20 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:19 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:14 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:57 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 2:05 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:24 am
From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU DONT WANT LYNCHED RIGHT NOW. WHO IS IT.

how is town reading someone gonna pocket you if you’re constantly aware of them pocketing you? Checkmate.

Nova.

But I'm not aware of them pocketing me, I'm just afraid of it happening.

I call bullshit. This reads to me as someone afraid of having wrong reads in the thread publicly.

You're not afraid of being pocketed by discussing your town reads, which doesn't make sense lol. You're afraid of having townreads in public, in case of being wrong about some of them come end game

Same thing as being pocketed yes? Being pocketed is when you strong town read a player who's actually scum. Isn't what you're saying here the same as that? So yeah I am afraid of being wrong about my town reads thus afraid of being pocketed.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:25 pm Hey Drago does that mean you think Nova is trying to pocket you by being the only person to townread you

No.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:19 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:14 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:57 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 2:05 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:24 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:34 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:32 am

Can you go through the GTH reads and assign each person good/ bad?

The only two reads I remember are RDW and DDL. I also havent seen you post any townreads?

Tyia

Not really interested in doing that.

I don't really like posting my townreads.

From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU DONT WANT LYNCHED RIGHT NOW. WHO IS IT.

how is town reading someone gonna pocket you if you’re constantly aware of them pocketing you? Checkmate.

Nova.

But I'm not aware of them pocketing me, I'm just afraid of it happening.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:17 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:28 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 8:47 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 8:25 pm [VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

His voting didn't change from day 1 to day 2.

What is this supposed to mean and why does it matter?

Why does it matter to you? It is only one vote on you. I vote and you appear?

Sometimes, scum don't change their vote from day to day, but town with strong reads might do that as well.

Anyways, I need a break. I don't feel like typing much at the moment.

It matters to me because your reasoning is flawed and I want an explanation for why you find that bad.

You acknowledge that this both alignments can do the same thing basically making it NAI, heck you only say it's sometimes that scum do it basically saying that this thing I did is not a particular strong scum tell but with all this you vote for me with that as your reason.

This is bullshit and I seriously wanna scum read you.

You dont have strong reads

What are you talking about? I've been strong on my scum reads through and through.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:00 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 2:03 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:21 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 6:54 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 2:07 amWtf is this bad good shit?

Gun-to-head reads. We took stances on each player without allowing anything other than "good" or "bad".

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 2:07 amAlso, the hell are the logical reasons for me being scum? I don't see any.

Stuff like this rubs me the wrong way:

Spoiler: show

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:51 pm If y'all actually sussing Nova after what he did yesterday, y'all gotta go.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:26 pm First of all, you protected JJJ over Nova? Second of all, how do you know the heal was successful? Could be more reasons for why nobody died last night aside from you protecting your target.

I still sus Owner and DDL pretty heavily. RDW is someone I'm taking interest in as well. I'm finna go back and read Ultra's interactions.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 7:42 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:32 pm

Why did Owner’s claim convince you she was town

She claimed tracker and apparently tracked you to JJJ which you confirmed. This is a pretty dumb question.

You seem to be treating the game like there are obvious facts and "logic" to callback your original question here. Your post history is emotionless, and it looks like you're playing Mafia with a calculator.

Also when you had an opportunity to dig in and talk with DDL, the guy you've suspected so much, this was what came of that:

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Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:46 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:41 pm

Dragomir if all you do in the game is place a picture of me on your wall and throw shit at it you are going to be lynched before I am.

Lol, ok. Didn't say anything about trying to get you lynched here, only pointed out something interested. But aight then.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:53 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:51 pm

What about yesterday? You did nothing but attack me.

Are you backtracking on that?

I don't care what happened last DP. I'm talking about the now. I'm still sussing you for what I called you out for but I'm not planning on making an almighty push you at this moment.

I mean, what is this reassurance to DDL that you're not trying to lynch him? Eh?

Yes I do treat somethings as facts because that's how it is in my POV. What does emotionless posts have to do with anything? Explain to me what I was supposed to talk to DDL about in those interactions? Cause I wanted to correct his post on me trying to lynch him the entire game. I'm not sure what else there was to talk about cause there wasn't. Is it a common theme on this site to interact against players with 2 agendas in mind?

Who are the players with 2 agendas? What proof do you have that they have 2 agendas

I was talking about myself.

Oh bet so you’re trying to see how someone acts as town vs. as scum then?

What? No.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:51 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 1:37 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:03 pm I wanna say one of those was a vig kill and if I find town shot one of them Im gonna be Big Mad

Also during the night i came to the realization that we dont get role flips when people die

Anyway i think mafia got vigilante

I mentioned that we didn't get role flips. The "i'm gonna be Big Mad" bit pings me. I guess I feel like it's fake. Town can make wrong kills too. I don't know if it was town or mafia. Wouldn't mafia try to get rid of bigger threats, then again, figuring out who is actually truly a threat might be a whole other thing entirely.

Like if JaggedJimmyJay was scum for instance, then there might be a push to keep the active players alive so that him still being alive doesn't look as suspicious.

Well okay firstly, Epi kill is stupid from town unless whoever shot him was town reading Dragomir but even then it would have been better to shoot Dragomir because he was a conflicting wagon.

Yes i think it would be better to kill threats which is why i said it was probably a meta kill.

I dont see how killing Epi and Jack, two active talkative players, makes JJJ look less suspicious lol

Can you explain to me why me being a conflicting wagon to Soneji being scummy now that Soneji flipped town? Cause I don't see it.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:57 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 2:05 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:24 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:34 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:32 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:29 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:17 am

How does it affect your RDW read? Why are you scum reading him anyway

He hasn't done anything contributive and productive this entire game and then sheep on my wagon with literal piss poor reasoning. Nothing about that is coming from a Town POV.

Can you go through the GTH reads and assign each person good/ bad?

The only two reads I remember are RDW and DDL. I also havent seen you post any townreads?

Tyia

Not really interested in doing that.

I don't really like posting my townreads.

From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?

Too much information. I’m trying to get into the head of town!dragomir here, and there are obviously people you shouldnt want lynched.

If that’s NOT the case then there are people you would want to lynch last.

Without being able to follow your thought process I kinda figure you’re remaining on purposely obtuse to protect scum mates and not condemn them, or expose town as being, like town.

Also idk why you dont like posting town reads. Why dont you?

I have no idea what you were saying until the last line. I don't like posting town reads to avoid being pocketed, unless I really find someone to be an obvious town and ppl not realizing that to be asinine.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 8:47 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 8:25 pm [VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

His voting didn't change from day 1 to day 2.

What is this supposed to mean and why does it matter?

Why does it matter to you? It is only one vote on you. I vote and you appear?

Sometimes, scum don't change their vote from day to day, but town with strong reads might do that as well.

Anyways, I need a break. I don't feel like typing much at the moment.

It matters to me because your reasoning is flawed and I want an explanation for why you find that bad.

You acknowledge that this both alignments can do the same thing basically making it NAI, heck you only say it's sometimes that scum do it basically saying that this thing I did is not a particular strong scum tell but with all this you vote for me with that as your reason.

This is bullshit and I seriously wanna scum read you.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 8:25 pm [VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

His voting didn't change from day 1 to day 2.

What is this supposed to mean and why does it matter?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 2:21 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:44 am Yes I do treat somethings as facts because that's how it is in my POV. What does emotionless posts have to do with anything? Explain to me what I was supposed to talk to DDL about in those interactions? Cause I wanted to correct his post on me trying to lynch him the entire game. I'm not sure what else there was to talk about cause there wasn't. Is it a common theme on this site to interact against players with 2 agendas in mind?

I'm don't know what you mean in the highlighted question.

I view emotion (or the lack thereof) to be an important indicator which can shed light on otherwise vague notions of "tone" or "vibes" which comprise guts reads et cetera. I believe that, in a vacuum, mafia members are generally less emotional in their posts than are civilians. There are exceptions as with any "tell", but I don't really care about exceptions.

What I mean regarding your exchange with DDL was that instead of voicing your concerns about him directly to him, you alleviated his concern that you wanted to lynch him. This is something that you have since loudly protested. Whatever your intention may be, I am telling you right now that it hasn't always been clear what you want to do with the player Dragon D. Luffy. "Not making a big push" (whatever that means) is meaningless to me. Clearly you are and have been pursuing his lynch -- it is probably the most pronounced aspect of your post history. This manner of technicality and your insistence about it strikes me as at best misplaced. I don't know why that is important to you from a civilian perspective.

You were complaining that I didn't dig and talk to DDL when I had the chance. I ask if it's common to have 2 agendas when interacting with players on this site because digging and to voice my opinions directly to him was not my plan and that was obvious. Me correcting DDL was the plan.

I don't really agree. How much emotion a player has isn't dictated by their alignment but their mood and how they just play the game imo.

Why should I voice my concern directly to him? I don't see a point in it when I've been voicing my concern about him all game and he definitely saw those posts.

I don't understand what you're trying to say in the bolded. I obviously want to lynch the guy, but you guys don't share the same mindset so I'll try against somebody else I think is scum.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:24 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:34 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:32 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:29 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:17 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 1:34 am

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:12 pm

How do you feel now thar Soneji flipped town

I am confused. My impression was that I was a counter wagon to save Soneji but seeing how both leading wagons are town, it makes me think that there were more town in my wagon than on Soneji's wagon as it doesn't make sense for scum to get another wagon going when they can just hop on the leading wagon which was a mislynch.

How does it affect your RDW read? Why are you scum reading him anyway

He hasn't done anything contributive and productive this entire game and then sheep on my wagon with literal piss poor reasoning. Nothing about that is coming from a Town POV.

Can you go through the GTH reads and assign each person good/ bad?

The only two reads I remember are RDW and DDL. I also havent seen you post any townreads?

Tyia

Not really interested in doing that.

I don't really like posting my townreads.

From my pov this looks like you trying not to tmi any townies

TMI?