The Syndicate

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:54 pm Fayt, did you have a vote on the board before changing the Host/dead/mod?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:43 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm Nova, why is Long Con a doggo?

His energy is great and has been that way since D0. Looks like he doesn't care how he's perceived, and he's playing the game his own way and at his own pace. It feels genuine. The Drago early scum read he had reminds me of a no u in World of Flags game where I suspected him and took offense to it lol. Also I like how it's been consistent, like he has a lingering suspicion of Drago yet he's not basing his game around it and has a lot of stuff going on. That's the kind of good consistency. His D2 is in the same vein, feels like he's handling the casing against him well and he doesn't care in a good way, not like discrediting, while he's also pushing his own thoughts with his JJJ suspicion.

Rej's handling of him reflects well. It doesn't make sense for Rej to vote him and the push he made EoD with LC's wagon materializing if they're teammate seeing Rej's role, especially after he didn't vote Dragomir who was a closer wagon most of the time and was actually a suspicion of his. The gamble Rej's mention when going for LC give me TMI vibes. Same goes for LC's handling of Rej, using your post about Rej to clear him then going after him is hilarious lol.

you like him for what i dislile him. For me nothing can't be faked by scum. He is indeed solid and not shady.
But if he is town why would he suggest a check?
I saw in that idea 2 things: one, a subtile role fishing without the idea of a waste of a peek on a lock townie and two, the biggest cat has godfather answer at check so he can say come and check me and i am green anyway.
Relaxed yes, townish no.

I read that as someone that wants an interaction to end and stop going into circles. With it being part of set of solution, the other keep pushing and lynching him made me think that. I can get that kind of frustration. But yeah with a GF around, it's interesting. Although it feels too out there.

Is that your main gripe with him?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:46 pm Hmm the existence of godfather does make that a little sketch. But if he was godfather would he really be that overt, or is it more likely he's just a townie who wasn't really thinking about that issue?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm Nova, why is Long Con a doggo?

His energy is great and has been that way since D0. Looks like he doesn't care how he's perceived, and he's playing the game his own way and at his own pace. It feels genuine. The Drago early scum read he had reminds me of a no u in World of Flags game where I suspected him and took offense to it lol. Also I like how it's been consistent, like he has a lingering suspicion of Drago yet he's not basing his game around it and has a lot of stuff going on. That's the kind of good consistency. His D2 is in the same vein, feels like he's handling the casing against him well and he doesn't care in a good way, not like discrediting, while he's also pushing his own thoughts with his JJJ suspicion.

Rej's handling of him reflects well. It doesn't make sense for Rej to vote him and the push he made EoD with LC's wagon materializing if they're teammate seeing Rej's role, especially after he didn't vote Dragomir who was a closer wagon most of the time and was actually a suspicion of his. The gamble Rej's mention when going for LC give me TMI vibes. Same goes for LC's handling of Rej, using your post about Rej to clear him then going after him is hilarious lol.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:38 pm Ok, well, you can: a) take my word for it. This solution is the most expedient, in keeping with your "ASAP" desire... or b) keep voting me until enough votes come in to ensure my lynch. This solution will leave you with no more doubts, but carries very unfortunate consequences.

c) if you're a rolechecker type, check me! This solution fails if you are not one of those.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:31 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:11 pm I don't think I tend to put a lot of energy into *seeming* Civilian.

You don't need a lot of energy for that. You need just a villagery sparkle.

Yeah, but I'm too belligerent. I ain't dancing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:29 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:24 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:04 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:49 pm How acts Long Con?
What defines you as either alignament?

Who are in your Poe?

I act how I act. I don't do a lot of Mafia self-reflection, I just say what comes to my mind. I'm pretty laid-back, but I can start throwing things around at times when the level of ignoring me gets high enough.

I don't have a POE.

If you are villager and I can't see you villager i will be very sad because that means i am an idiot voting for you.
How come you don't have a Poe. I am voting you. Am i a good one?
You are voting. The one you're voting is not in your Poe?

Using Process of Elimination is just one of many methods of playing this game. It's not my method.

If one is an idiot for being unable to tell who's mafia and who's villager with every vote, then I guess we're all idiots. Right? I don't get why you would be so hard on yourself for being unable to easily put me in a category.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:11 pm I don't think I tend to put a lot of energy into *seeming* Civilian.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:04 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:49 pm How acts Long Con?
What defines you as either alignament?

Who are in your Poe?

I act how I act. I don't do a lot of Mafia self-reflection, I just say what comes to my mind. I'm pretty laid-back, but I can start throwing things around at times when the level of ignoring me gets high enough.

I don't have a POE.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:57 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 pm I think the case against LC is poor. This isn’t uncertainty or doubt like with Rej D1, it’s just a perception that the case is *bad*. Rej’s voting behavior makes very little sense if LC is his teammate.

Dragomir could be for the refused vote. Rej waited around for a different wagon to blossom though, and it ended up being LC by no manipulation of his own. He plopped his vote on there without a care. The whole “it was coordinated distancing” spiel does not hold water for me.

I also think LC is behaving like a civilian.

I can pls has feedback? I can pls has hole in logic?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:06 am My reads are pretty in flux at this point. I feel quite good about Epignosis, Dom, Long Con, and TSP. I think Mac and nova generally look fine. I think Dragomir looks good, but he also feels like a potential blind spot. I think Fayt looks bad, but she also feels like a potential blind spot. Michelle, nutella, and speedchuck are swing reads. sprityo is nothing and thus bad.

If I were to draw up a POE of 4 (I think we're allowed more at this stage) right this moment, it'd be the last four names there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:48 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:46 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:00 am @Epignosis I think that Jay is just about the only person who WOULD kill TH in that slot based on how TH was playing. I think you may be right about him after all.

I don't kill Turnip Head in his first game back here in 900 years either. Believe me or don't, I don't care. My first priority is always the website, and Turnip Head is a major part of it.

This is a blatant lie.

[VOTE: jay] aubergine

As long as y'all who think I am the Grinch Who Stole Christmas adapt your perspectives after the game and understand that I am not actually an emotionless robot who cares for nothing but sweet victory. That's all JJJ asks.

It's the truth.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:19 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:14 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:49 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

do it bitch

why so rude?

Semi-classic Syndicate catchphrase.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:49 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

do it bitch

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:07 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:41 am And if JJJ is scum then that makes two baddies you have defended.

i defended you too pretty much. If you are scum the second part of your sentence is still valid.

You lack something. Townish anger at my vote. Your tone is bland.
Unfortunately i don't have meta so i take it like it may be a wrong take from me. *shrugs

I feel pretty bland about it. I'm not going to get angry, vote me if you like.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:41 am And if JJJ is scum then that makes two baddies you have defended.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:39 am

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:44 pm I'll see what Long Con has to say for himself.

I am a dog. What more is there?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:51 pm I didn't "give up" the last time. I was caught. Doing anything else would have wasted everyone's time. I do not believe in wasting people's time.

If you want something to chew on, how about this: I would not condone the killing of Turnip Head Night 1. I don't kill the ones I've missed so soon.

Me too. And nutella. And Dom.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:53 pm Now here is why I find LC to be bad. First is this post right here. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 38#p555038. This right here is a clear cut soft defense that LC tried to create. He tries using the opinion of Michelle to support Rej when Jay voted for him. I find such an attempt very weak based on the fact that Michelle's town read on Rej shouldn't matter to how he reads or Jay reads Rej. Since when do players just town read someone cause somebody else did? It's not like Michelle had info on Rej. It's an incredible wink link and really has no purpose behind it besides supporting/saving Rej. He tried and failed. Because he failed, he moves on to vote for Rej. I find this to be a distancing attempt. Rej is most likely to be lynched so drop the vote and look better for it. The vote is out of nowhere when LC had made no mention of any remote suspicion of Rej. Nothing at all. Hell, it's more likely that he town read Rej based on the post I linked here.

Now moving on to Rej's posts. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 99#p554999. Here, he brings up LC for the first time. There's a rushed tone to it. Like Rej just realized that he should mention his buddy in a bad light of sorts and try to create some distancing. It's what he did, whether or not it was distancing or just fake reads is up to you. Next, he votes for LC. Rej didn't want to save himself, he could have done that a long time ago by hopping on my wagon. No, he took the prime opportunity to distance. That's really all I can see from his vote on LC. Just how I feel about it.

Enh, I was just conversing using what I had in my mind. I thought Michelle's meta read on Rej sounded believable... there were pages that I caught up on in skimmish mode, and I wanted to make conversation with something current/relevant. It was quite the wink link though.

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Epi's post about JJJ is how I feel. That whole schmeck at the end of Day 1 is mondo garbo as they say.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:47 pm Epignosis is probably a dog. I am juggling around thoughts to the contrary in my brain, and the one that I find recurring is "Epi is cranky about last game and wants to mislynch me this time", which is

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 am Dragomir has my vote currently.

Got a twinge of suspicion on Epi here for this... he's been going hard against JJJ for pages, and then goes for Dragomir (who I know he also expressed suspicion for). Feels a bit like "How To Act Civ: Don't tunnel! Keep an open mind and multiple suspicions going". Not enough to flip my axis on the Epi-or-JJJ front, if such a thing exists. And I know no one wants to turn Day 2 into one of those situations, but I say what I say.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:11 amWhere's Long Con?

Trying to catch up and also watch El Camino. This has been a lot of posts, you prolific fuckers.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:23 am I actually thought Long Con was being at least a little facetious there.

@Long Con have a go.

Yes, that sounds accurate. Also, the stuff I said earlier in this post, something about going with what I had in mind, trying to be a little bit relevant with an opinion I had formed through a skim-read.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:18 am Good lord this thread exploded

I know right?

I'll [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Please explain the bolded Long Con, i really don't understand why are you so understanding towards me. Feels TMI-stic...

And because your vote looks like a whim i need an explanation for it. Thanks

I don't really see how the bold statement could be considered TMI, since the statement where you defended Rej was proven wrong. I don't really know him and it sounded like you do.

My vote for JJJ is best explained by epignosis' big post against him, but also by a few of my own responses last night as well. JJJ's behaviour at the end of day one get most players lynched automatically, but he talks so much that's it's hard to break through, which I believe is part of his strategy.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:06 am Michelle, what do the terms TR and SR mean?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:33 am I apologize to all of The Syndicate for how much I abuse the and emojis, but they apply to pretty much everything I say.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:33 am I apologize to all of The Syndicate for how much I abuse the and emojis, but they apply to pretty much everything I say.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:53 pm Now here is why I find LC to be bad. First is this post right here. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 38#p555038. This right here is a clear cut soft defense that LC tried to create. He tries using the opinion of Michelle to support Rej when Jay voted for him. I find such an attempt very weak based on the fact that Michelle's town read on Rej shouldn't matter to how he reads or Jay reads Rej. Since when do players just town read someone cause somebody else did? It's not like Michelle had info on Rej. It's an incredible wink link and really has no purpose behind it besides supporting/saving Rej. He tried and failed. Because he failed, he moves on to vote for Rej. I find this to be a distancing attempt. Rej is most likely to be lynched so drop the vote and look better for it. The vote is out of nowhere when LC had made no mention of any remote suspicion of Rej. Nothing at all. Hell, it's more likely that he town read Rej based on the post I linked here.

Now moving on to Rej's posts. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 99#p554999. Here, he brings up LC for the first time. There's a rushed tone to it. Like Rej just realized that he should mention his buddy in a bad light of sorts and try to create some distancing. It's what he did, whether or not it was distancing or just fake reads is up to you. Next, he votes for LC. Rej didn't want to save himself, he could have done that a long time ago by hopping on my wagon. No, he took the prime opportunity to distance. That's really all I can see from his vote on LC. Just how I feel about it.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:02 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:50 am @Dragomir did you make the promised cases? i have to search for them.

I see your vote on Long Con so maybe you have a solid SR?

Yes.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:39 am

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:44 pm I'll see what Long Con has to say for himself.

I am a dog. What more is there?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:51 pm I didn't "give up" the last time. I was caught. Doing anything else would have wasted everyone's time. I do not believe in wasting people's time.

If you want something to chew on, how about this: I would not condone the killing of Turnip Head Night 1. I don't kill the ones I've missed so soon.

Me too. And nutella. And Dom.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:53 pm Now here is why I find LC to be bad. First is this post right here. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 38#p555038. This right here is a clear cut soft defense that LC tried to create. He tries using the opinion of Michelle to support Rej when Jay voted for him. I find such an attempt very weak based on the fact that Michelle's town read on Rej shouldn't matter to how he reads or Jay reads Rej. Since when do players just town read someone cause somebody else did? It's not like Michelle had info on Rej. It's an incredible wink link and really has no purpose behind it besides supporting/saving Rej. He tried and failed. Because he failed, he moves on to vote for Rej. I find this to be a distancing attempt. Rej is most likely to be lynched so drop the vote and look better for it. The vote is out of nowhere when LC had made no mention of any remote suspicion of Rej. Nothing at all. Hell, it's more likely that he town read Rej based on the post I linked here.

Now moving on to Rej's posts. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 99#p554999. Here, he brings up LC for the first time. There's a rushed tone to it. Like Rej just realized that he should mention his buddy in a bad light of sorts and try to create some distancing. It's what he did, whether or not it was distancing or just fake reads is up to you. Next, he votes for LC. Rej didn't want to save himself, he could have done that a long time ago by hopping on my wagon. No, he took the prime opportunity to distance. That's really all I can see from his vote on LC. Just how I feel about it.

Enh, I was just conversing using what I had in my mind. I thought Michelle's meta read on Rej sounded believable... there were pages that I caught up on in skimmish mode, and I wanted to make conversation with something current/relevant. It was quite the wink link though.

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Epi's post about JJJ is how I feel. That whole schmeck at the end of Day 1 is mondo garbo as they say.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:47 pm Epignosis is probably a dog. I am juggling around thoughts to the contrary in my brain, and the one that I find recurring is "Epi is cranky about last game and wants to mislynch me this time", which is

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 am Dragomir has my vote currently.

Got a twinge of suspicion on Epi here for this... he's been going hard against JJJ for pages, and then goes for Dragomir (who I know he also expressed suspicion for). Feels a bit like "How To Act Civ: Don't tunnel! Keep an open mind and multiple suspicions going". Not enough to flip my axis on the Epi-or-JJJ front, if such a thing exists. And I know no one wants to turn Day 2 into one of those situations, but I say what I say.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:11 amWhere's Long Con?

Trying to catch up and also watch El Camino. This has been a lot of posts, you prolific fuckers.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:23 am I actually thought Long Con was being at least a little facetious there.

@Long Con have a go.

Yes, that sounds accurate. Also, the stuff I said earlier in this post, something about going with what I had in mind, trying to be a little bit relevant with an opinion I had formed through a skim-read.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:18 am Good lord this thread exploded

I know right?

I'll [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:05 pm bleh [VOTE: Rej] aubergine

But Michelle says Rej is Civ.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:43 pm Never mind I think Nova is probably town too here.

This is just all town on town hate imo. I want new voices. @speedchuck @sprityo @nutella @TonyStarkPrime @Fayt @Michelle @Long Con can you please read Epi's Jay hate wall and comment.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:19 am

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:57 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:53 am Dragomir could kill him.

I repeat, Turnip Head town read Dragomir. If Dragomir just lost a teammate Rej, why would he kill an ally? Not to mention Rej probably spewed him town in the "I don't get the case" post. Which also spews me town tbh. I'm clearing Dragomir off all of that straight up.

Nutella would 100% kill him. She fell victim to Turnip Head's skill in a big way in Firefly. Long Con probably just wants you, me or Epi dead most of the time. Especially you if he is scum and you are town, after that EOD. I don't think newcomers come to the decision to kill TH without help from at least someone who knows him well enough to talk about what a threat he is.

Why are you ruling out TSP?

I like to think I wouldn't. I teared up when I saw TH had showed up on the forum in my walrus thread after a long absence. I love the fucker. I can't for sure imagine what scum!me would decide in that situation, but personally I want TH around.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:02 pm I think it's clear that Rej wanted to take me down with him by how he read me. He voted LC up knowing that he'd get lynched anyway to distance from his buddy. It's crystal clear that Rej didn't really want to save himself so he votes LC to make his buddy appear more town.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:07 pm You know, maybe I won't actually explain the reads on LC and Epi so don't get your hopes up about it.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:07 pm More later than sooner though.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:04 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:03 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:57 pm Long Con and Epi are Rej's buddies. I'm basing this off of reads. I'll explain in a sec.

No. I can't imagine Long Con other than villager.

Epi may be, i am waiting for your explanation

Why not?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:57 pm Long Con and Epi are Rej's buddies. I'm basing this off of reads. I'll explain in a sec.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:39 pm

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Rej

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Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:28 am Michelle ok
JJJ ok
Novas ok
Sprityo ok
Macdougall ok

All others bad.
Sry I just start being active from work. Please tag me if something.

Also pardon me. Dunno why people always kill me or lynch me off as civillian. Yesterday I played 3 games at once. Today its just one lmao.

I will play this one with all my might and attention but today I rly need to chillax. I will allow everyone to read me as you pleasure tho.

Dont mind my gth reads I just skimmed through to have a base to work on with.

Okay.

Rather random name to be listed first here.

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Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:20 pm I don't get the scumreads on Dragomir. Sounds a bit forced by JJJ and novas, also it was quite a speedy jump.

Mac is looking OK

There was a thing with Sprityo and Michelle that bothered me. They just quoted each other and then dropped the D0 fluffing. It gave me a "picky" vibe.
I really wait for sprityo and Michelle post to deduct further about their alignment in the game.

Again about the above tizzy I feel like JJJ is town. It fits with his previous townplay of engagin agressively to collect as much data as possible from something, I like it and I wanna see more of it through the course of the game!

I am too tired to read a wolf in Drago or novas, in best case I want them to be town with us.

I will go sleep now, I hope I won't have to catch up that much pages when I am at work after I woke up.

Bleh. Michelle is mentioned here in a manner which invites vague shade, but only by association to sprityo. That association is nigh meaningless, and I don't care for this.

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Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:21 pm Oh and I gave Spirityo and Michelle an okay but this was before my eye picked the real possible intention of fluffdropping there.

Rej felt the need to jump back and qualify this. "Yes I said okay about them before, but but but" -- Kinda yuck.

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Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:55 am @Dragomir we must be the best mafia players on earth when people always try to get us dayoned.

Yare yare I come and I have to catch up as fuck on mobile.



Ok switch in scenes: I am sitting on the toilette and have time now:
@JaggedJimmyJay I was neither civ nor scum reading Dragomir. Until you bring me a vital slip I wont scumread Dragomir that easily simple as that. Get used it.

Back to JJJ : I feel you are way too agressive to get a clear civ read from me. I dont know how scum profits from this but we got 2 fast wagons started up. And I feel town does not profit from these wagons. We still have time and need to wait for some replies.

So I have 3 votes on me. And I threw soft suspicion on Michelle and Sprityo. I feel like scum is voting me up in hope that my wagon becomes stronger EoD when others join up to generate an easy mislynch.

I will revisit novas post brb.

The highlighed sentence is a mess. The "And I threw soft suspicion on Michelle and sprityo" thing at first looks entirely irrelevant to the premise of the rest of it -- that he has votes and those votes are opportunistic. This brings to light why that bit may be featured though. Rej wants credit for beefing with those two "softly", and moreover he wants the people voting for him to look bad by extension with respect to those two. By attacking Rej they were implicitly defending Michelle/sprityo. Another moment I don't like.

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Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:01 pm OOOOOOOOOOOH, I didn't knew what "spew" means until I read your explanations below. Omg thanks, now I can read the situation better.
This is my bad and a new interaction I should consider.

As for nutella I don't find any scum tells or scummy approaches by her towards some other player.
Now I think Mac and Fayt are getting more interesting for me.

I can't get more reads at this point as I rely on Sprityo and Michelles reads.

I will look at Long Con and then I looked at everyone.

No need for Dom ISO, that guy looks pretty townish since he became active in the Drago suspicion train.
But I ask myself if @Dom has some other reads, like some read on Mac (bringing back Mac because I think Dom was asked about Mac before and he had no read about him back then).

Quite the wet fart at this point.

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Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:10 pm I am torn between a pressure vote on Michelle/Sprityo and solidifying the lynch on Drago. But if I won't like the flip I will pretty much feel bad.
Another option is voting Turnip Head because I feel they haven't given enough reads this DP to read them back properly.
Turnip do you have some input on others? Votes have been moved to Speedchuck for example. I didn't like how he voted me so I question speedchuck if his vote on me is locked?


okay addition after Michelles read on me:
Michelle I would always @ you, sadly we haven't played much games fully together, I often leave in the early stages. xD
I need more reads from you tho, and I sadly know nothing about your scumplay I feel.

"torn"

"pressure vote"

Meh.

The highlighted bit would be relatively creative mafia-mafia chatter at least. That doesn't mean a lot to me, but it's something.

~~~

Michelle

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Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:14 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:20 pm I don't get the scumreads on Dragomir. Sounds a bit forced by JJJ and novas, also it was quite a speedy jump.

Mac is looking OK

There was a thing with Sprityo and Michelle that bothered me. They just quoted each other and then dropped the D0 fluffing. It gave me a "picky" vibe.
I really wait for @sprityo and @Michelle post to deduct further about their alignment in the game.

Again about the above tizzy I feel like JJJ is town. It fits with his previous townplay of engagin agressively to collect as much data as possible from something, I like it and I wanna see more of it through the course of the game!

I am too tired to read a wolf in Drago or novas, in best case I want them to be town with us.

I will go sleep now, I hope I won't have to catch up that much pages when I am at work after I woke up.

Sorry about inactivity i was coming back from vacation and had a hard day. Going to catch up asap and @ you with reads.

This exists.

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Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:51 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:17 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:16 pm Can someone tell me what's up before i start reading? Is close to my sleep hour and i would prefere direct interaction.

Dragomir and Rej are currently the lead wagons, as you can see. You could start by assessing each of them.

Dragomir
Rej

Decide how you feel. If you'd prefer to vote neither, indicate someone you suspect in their stead.

Also about Rej, he pinged me to see me posting. This is not a scum behaviour and that post, the first i've read, sounded okay. Not a Rej scum read yet either. Ftr anytime i was villager i could read him and he knows it. Scum Rej would not @ me.

Welp this is an egg-on-face post. It happens to the best of us. I don't care for it though. An "@" is an extremely frivolous reason to exonerate a player.

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Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:14 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:18 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:51 pm Also about Rej, he pinged me to see me posting. This is not a scum behaviour and that post, the first i've read, sounded okay. Not a Rej scum read yet either. Ftr anytime i was villager i could read him and he knows it. Scum Rej would not @ me.

Do you have a past with Rej or is this just commenting on general scum behavior, with Rej trying to further conversation instead of letting you stay quiet?

yes. we played few games on my homesite and his homesite. He is a very intuitive and good reader when he's villager. This is not pocketing i saw him as host and i was impressed

Eh.

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Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:16 pm trusting Rej i will vote with him.

This is at least quite brazen -- it came 6 minutes prior to the deadline and helped to make the Long Con wagon a viable counter. By the numbers it's bad. By tone I actually don't find myself that disturbed.

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Conclusion: Michelle has a lot to answer for. It's not difficult to see her as a cat. I am not completely convinced of this, but she's certainly a suspect.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:10 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:09 pm tomorow morning like i already said

This day phase ends in 12 minutes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:18 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:51 pm Also about Rej, he pinged me to see me posting. This is not a scum behaviour and that post, the first i've read, sounded okay. Not a Rej scum read yet either. Ftr anytime i was villager i could read him and he knows it. Scum Rej would not @ me.

Do you have a past with Rej or is this just commenting on general scum behavior, with Rej trying to further conversation instead of letting you stay quiet?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:51 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:17 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:16 pm Can someone tell me what's up before i start reading? Is close to my sleep hour and i would prefere direct interaction.

Dragomir and Rej are currently the lead wagons, as you can see. You could start by assessing each of them.

Dragomir
Rej

Decide how you feel. If you'd prefer to vote neither, indicate someone you suspect in their stead.

Also about Rej, he pinged me to see me posting. This is not a scum behaviour and that post, the first i've read, sounded okay. Not a Rej scum read yet either. Ftr anytime i was villager i could read him and he knows it. Scum Rej would not @ me.

Thanks for your input Michelle. At the very least, I think you sound authentic in your report.

Your task would seem to be finding a suspect you like better then.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:10 pm I am torn between a pressure vote on Michelle/Sprityo and solidifying the lynch on Drago. But if I won't like the flip I will pretty much feel bad.
Another option is voting @Turnip Head because I feel they haven't given enough reads this DP to read them back properly.
Turnip do you have some input on others? Votes have been moved to Speedchuck for example. I didn't like how he voted me so I question @speedchuck if his vote on me is locked?


okay addition after Michelles read on me:
@Michelle I would always @ you, sadly we haven't played much games fully together, I often leave in the early stages. xD
I need more reads from you tho, and I sadly know nothing about your scumplay I feel.