The Syndicate

Let’s all vote sabie, DDL seems like a cool guy

Plus, ddl has been hating me since the start

I bet you this man tried recruiting me every night and failed miserably

Because I hid my role so well that I don’t even know what role I am

He wouldn’t fake it when the event triggers. He knew the event triggers, so he fires his shot.

He probably would afterwards.

Yes, he faked it to spew me when his wincon is to stay alive

And staying alive means killing Makoto

Big thonk

For the people not getting it, if I was recruited and DDL knew my role, I wouldn’t get soup’d in ages. Because he knew what role he converted.

So this is why I’m voting sabie, if I voted DDL here, I’d die in the night because I’m confirmed.

That’s 4 people PoE’d now.

Sig is already setting me up although I just got soup’d by bear, which makes me confirmed not cult. So there’s an awful push there. Desperate.

Because mass claim is a thing and secrets are a thing. We have 1 confirmed town, 5 players get PoE’d. If there’s a cop, they will come out with innos / red checks. There’s too many variables that could end them. Mass claims will spice up the game and will give a reason for town to get back on track and become a wim machine.

There are roles that clear others upon revealing, most likely. We already have a PoE of wolves.

They’d just take the easy way out of here. I think it’s between Sig and probably you, TSP.

Especially if there’s only one mafia. Also, if it’s junko, she has to stop roleblocking, otherwise people will claim rbed, so roles can do their thing.

I meant sabie sorry

Why do I keep getting them mixed up

I think scum are more likely to vote Bear here.

Talk to me for a bit TSP, I want not to feel like an outcast for a minute.

Suppose deal goes through with sabie, do you think we, the sabie voters, actually win?

Does my bastard game talk thing make any sense to you and do you agree with it?

TL, let's debate because you probably understand my point and have a role that is susceptible to dying, unlike Okosan who's probably death immune or the busser chick.

I wanna talk to someone that's willing to understand my point.

oh wait I got things mixed up

got it now

Why should I not hammer sabie right now then?

oh wait what hold on that's not what is said in that post

i think it ends it

DDL, if I have a vote on you and sabie gets hammered, do I win with you?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:40 am What are you talkin about, he already has the four votes we need to Lynch him.

DDL and sabie's votes don't count.

If you want DDL lynched, convince Tony / TH.

I'm not switching my vote man, I don't know what you want from me.

Same principle applies, if DDL was :

1) Given the option to create an ability is bastard

2) Given the option of lying about those mechanics is bastard

I think sprit was very upfront about the two options and the flavour was written by DDL, but the choices are legit.

You are arguing with me for nothing, it's not wolfy. If I was mafia I'd be hammering the living hell out of DDL right now, because mafia probably wins this 7/10 times.

I am preserving my life and choosing the option that lets me live.

This is the "social experiment" part advertised : will you save one of your own but risk losing your life or will you sacrifice one for everyone else.

I think it's legit and I'm not moving my vote. From my perspective that's the only thing that wins me the game.

"This is a one part social experiment, one part setup"

Not a bastard game. Giving the ability to a player to deliberately lie about game mechanics that are triggered is bastard.

I honestly don't think that DDL can come up with a game mechanic. I think this was an ability activation and it's not even DDL's post. Sprityo said if you submit your stuff, he will write some boss ass flavour.

Him, not DDL.

I don't have any compelling reason to move my vote, if I vote sabie, I have a chance of winning, if I vote DDL, I have a higher chance of losing than winning.

The argument is that Makoto needs to live in order to win? so if the evil guy gives you an event where killing makoto wins you the game, you know..

My mental map of how this was designed was to make Naegi and Monokuma players to argue against each other and incentivize Naegi to use that wifom line at the end in order to present some fake info in order to convince people to vote Monokuma and Monokuma would convince people that Naegi is lying, so on and so forth.

Anything else can't be modified, there can be some wifom stuff from the mod, but if he lies in flavour then this game should've been advertised as bastard, which I don't think it was.

linki : then that changes it all lol

The game isn't advertised as bastard so I'll take it all as mod truth.

not worth imo meh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:36 am For what it’s worth I think this game is pretty much empirically solvable without the bear

Hmmmmmm, I think the paranoia and the "your towns can be turned at any time" mentality goes out the window, but that still doesn't mean town will work harder together and have cohesion. If I had the guarantee that we lynch the wolf as soon as the other day starts, I'd be tempted.

Who'd you say the last one is? I'm thinking siggie but I'm not confident enough to actually gamble on it.

That was my opinion of how that role is supposed to play in that situation, given the flavour and...the obvious wincon of staying alive.

You can play whatever, I was trying to find a reasoning for that line in the flavour being there and not being the absolute truth.

I hard claim mafia, vote me i dare you

Maybe that is a set up that will help your lie being more convincing, cuz you need to like fight against your lynch here, but I guess that's out of the way because you chose not to lie.

I think this was meant to be a fight between you and DDL for our entertainment but turned out underwhelming

So maybe you were supposed to say something like "He's lying, if you guys vote for DDL, we just need to catch scum and we all win" or "If you vote DDL game ends here, he has no other conversions"

or something idk

So bear is telling the absolute truth?

"Oh, I bet a few of you are about to call me a liar! Smart ones, these ultimate students. Well, I can't prove you I am not a liar, but you just saw the host announcement. You know something is going on. Is it different from what I just presented? Is it the same? Is it ~mostly~the same? Maybe ask Mr. Naegi himself, I am sure he is not at risk of being soup killed anymore since only one of us will be alive after the day ends. He may actually have a different version! Otherwise, there is only way to find out, my dear students"

sabie, what is it that you're hiding here? hmmmmm?

"the rule saying only living players win is still up, so any players who are lynched or night killed along the path to beat the mafia will lose in the end."

Oh wait, if the game continues as a normal I might be persuaded in switching the vote.

As in, if everyone, even the dead win, then fuck yeah.

With the level of commitment we had and the lack of town cohesion, this is like the holy grail for town. Probably best option available.

Lynch DDL here and nobody will play the game anymore, guaranteed.

Town could win, but only a few people, at least 2 more will die. 1 in a mislynch and 1 in a night kill.

I don't think town can catch the last scum, sorry. Or if they do, it will be in LyLo or something, and that's a bummer.

Have 6 people win the game + DDL instead of 2 or whatever.

meant ensured not assured

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:04 am Am up for killing Monokuma and running this home but we gotta look at the big picture
Who do we lynch tomorrow, are people willing to keep dieing and losing the game for the few surviving town to win while those that help and have helped die. I am willing to continue with that in mind but i want to hear other's thoughts.

Nobody's playing the game, I am honestly tired of this and just want to bag the win and end it.

Until we hit scum, at least 2 more towns will die, that could be you, it could be me, could be anyone. Try and think long term, we lynch DDL, yes, but what does that really help you with. You could die in the night before you even have a chance to vote mafia. You could get lynched tomorrow for whatever reason.

There's just no reason to vote Monokuma here. For sabie, she auto wins this if monokuma is lynched. She can't get nked in any way, and won't even get lynched because there's the certainty monokuma can't convert, cuz he died.

The only person who's assured the win here is sabie, the rest of us are all susceptible to night kills.

Oh wait nvm my info about Sakura is bs, she is recruit immune not kill immune.

Only naegi is kill immune

They shot Sakura and know who naegi is, that just leaves me to a certain death. Not certain but like chances go up by a shit ton.

I suggest the others who aren’t having a role that auto wins them the game here vote sabie as well.

[v] Sabie12 [/v]

Having an ego and paying back for DDL’s shit talk here would hurt me. Our egos are what make us weak. I will definitely lose if I’m not voting this.

Can you vote? :P

Why are you saying it like they are contradicting each other? Mafia had to kill too, no?

I have information that mafia hit Sakura buff chick.

I am considering lynching Makoto

I told you all I like soup

Probably N2

Doesn’t matter. Probably N1.

I love soup. Was supposed to eat one but I had some peas with some chicken instead. Delicious