The Syndicate

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:22 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:10 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:07 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:30 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:28 pm

I disagree
Good. Tell me more.
I don't really have a read either way on Rem yet but I will eventually.

Robyn seems towny to me though.
I mean... this is like my 7th post

Your read here on Robyn is a throw away, since you claimed they weren't Maf, and also don't have a read on them.

And there's nothing you point to that informs the Robyn read, it's vague & generalized
This is the problem I'm seeing with her reads on people, they are generalized, there is no meet on them except for Tutuu, which I agreed with her as well. Tutuu was wolfy.

But if you check when she talks about Seanzie, Zenon calls him town without saying why, then in the big wall post with anime gifs, she outs a hedging read on Seanzie voicing concern on him but still townreading, then on day 2 she declares that she no longer townreads Seanzie without saying why (I know why, Seanzie was suspecting her and she just OMGUS), She parked on Seanzie until we started talking about eliminating Robyn and Rem, then she appealed to Seanzie about to killing Rem, then Seanzie scum reads he and she actually appeals to him as if she knew Seanzie was town and then we know the rest.

Another example is myself, she had me in her townreads all game except today. She townread me more being uncooperative with Seanzie (even though she said it was my indignation) when he asked me why I was suspecting Epignosis and another player I dont remember now, then that she still townread me but that she was concerned about my derp being fake, then she voted Tutuu to save me from elimination, on day 2 she continued to townread me, then voted me to tie me with Rem (because she liked Rem more than me), then she dropped it and went for Seanzie, then Epignosis all in an attempt to save her townreads that she had no in game justification for, again, we know what happened at the end.

She has played very uncooperatively when prompted to show us her minset about her reads on people, specially Rem, then she just kills Rem.
Oh wtf ever

My reads have been the best in this game lol

Is that why you've not been a NK target, cuz of dem siiiiiiiiick reads?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:34 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm See you on the flip side folks.

I did what I could.

Please don't ignore what I've said.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Now you can have your precious non-depressing personal chat with your friend Rem.

See ya.

I still see that this is easy partner distancing, and getting your name off a town wagon
So you'd be down with lynching Zenon first. Is that right?

I'm not opposed to their wagon, as I mentioned to pyxxy, I find their rationale for pushing over Rem total wolf motivated.

I'm equally down w/ flipping you tho

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:33 pm I'm stepping away to play golf on the Wii, but I'm in the middle of looking over falcon's posts. I'll be back after I put my family to shame with my skills.

Absolutely love destroying my kids in video games.

For you see, they merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm See you on the flip side folks.

I did what I could.

Please don't ignore what I've said.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Now you can have your precious non-depressing personal chat with your friend Rem.

See ya.

I still see that this is easy partner distancing, and getting your name off a town wagon

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:46 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:43 pm Is it bad that I kinda want to vote Zenon?
No here I'll help

Vote: Zenon
[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm
Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm this zenon wagon is cringe
[VOTE: Rem] aubergine

Oh really Epi?

Pyxxy sitting on the voting sidelines I see...why?

[VOTE: epi] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:31 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm like looking at EOD

why doesn't Epi just stick on Rem and Zenon finds any other excuse to vote elsewhere

Was Epi around at EOD? Wolves often feel more of a need to build a case, and I'm not sure what, if any, interactions he had w/ Rem
EOD is only one page, just read this

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... start=1800

I read til I saw Epi vote Neon for 3 seconds then go back to Rem.

Super hi partner equity IMO

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm like looking at EOD

why doesn't Epi just stick on Rem and Zenon finds any other excuse to vote elsewhere

Was Epi around at EOD? Wolves often feel more of a need to build a case, and I'm not sure what, if any, interactions he had w/ Rem

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:22 pm Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red
is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?

Yeah, sometimes it is that easy

Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:17 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:13 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:10 pm @falcon45ca no rush but I'm curious what you'll perceive from EOD

Just got back from a work road trip, whatcha looking at?
- Zenon spent the day townreading and defending and having a good time chatting with Rem
- EOD mess because split wagons and too many afks
- Zenon ends up as the deciding vote chopping Rem because Epi pulled off Rem and Zenon had moved from Epi to Rem to avoid a tie

what do you make of like the last 10 minutes of EOD is basically the question

Well, based off that info, Imma [VOTE: Neon] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:10 pm @falcon45ca no rush but I'm curious what you'll perceive from EOD

Just got back from a work road trip, whatcha looking at?

Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:55 pm @Rem please don't die I need you here... for my sanity

Everyone is being so depresso

Is your read on Rem based off intangibles, or is are there specific things you can point to?

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm this zenon wagon is cringe

What's your case against Guillo?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:05 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:46 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:35 pm @Zenon

You dont want rem or robyn and i dont want Seanzie.

Say we both agree to compromise in another slot outside of those three.

Whom would be your pick?
Pyxxys town

I'm fine with any of the others my order if preference is

Wilgy > Epi > Falc

Talk to me about those reads plz
Care to join me on WIlgy?

I'm just not feeling Wilgy as Maf here...what are you seeing that I don't?

Zenon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:46 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:35 pm @Zenon

You dont want rem or robyn and i dont want Seanzie.

Say we both agree to compromise in another slot outside of those three.

Whom would be your pick?
Pyxxys town

I'm fine with any of the others my order if preference is

Wilgy > Epi > Falc

Talk to me about those reads plz

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:35 pm Stay the course, kill guillotine

Why is Gullo Maf? Can you talk to me more about your read on Guillo, mysself & Epi plz

Sean, Wilgy, Guillo I'm TR for now.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:04 pm I also don't want to discourage anyone from actively participating, but I do feel like the way Wilgy is fighting so hard right now makes me think more of scum than town. Wilgy doesn't like being scum much I don't think, but he takes his duty to his team pretty seriously. Having some heat on him here has lit a fire under him that I usually don't see when town!Wilgy gets suspected.

I'm a fan of his solving energy atm, so I'm inclined to TR his slot.

Rem wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:39 pm Guillotine
Epignosis
falcon

if game is not over perhaps robyn

I was literally out of town and afk...why was I in the final solve here, it's D2

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:36 am am I doing it right mom?

Nope

Rem wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:35 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:18 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:05 am [VOTE: sean] aubergine
No.

Look at the gamestate. I am clearly the one most pushing the game forward at this point.

Zenon and Rem are just fluff after fluff. Robyn is afk. Wilgy has been afk until I started pushing on them. Guillo and Epi have done some stuff. Pyxxy has done nothing.

No.

If you all actually vote me out here (and it is going that way, but it shouldn't be), like... I don't even know what to say.

Literally the one person hardpushing for ACTUAL SOLVING, and the one person ACTUALLY QUESTIONING PEOPLE ON THEIR READS... yup. Vote them off.
it is often the ones trying to look townie, the ones who are scum tho

unless level 0 play

You've been accused of fluff posting to the extreme. I can't say that I see this post as much more than that tbh, why is Sean Maf?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:18 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:05 am [VOTE: sean] aubergine
No.

Look at the gamestate. I am clearly the one most pushing the game forward at this point.

Zenon and Rem are just fluff after fluff. Robyn is afk. Wilgy has been afk until I started pushing on them. Guillo and Epi have done some stuff. Pyxxy has done nothing.

No.

If you all actually vote me out here (and it is going that way, but it shouldn't be), like... I don't even know what to say.

Literally the one person hardpushing for ACTUAL SOLVING, and the one person ACTUALLY QUESTIONING PEOPLE ON THEIR READS... yup. Vote them off.

Hmmmmmm...I've been absent, so I'm not aware of the gamestate. I do like your righteous tone here tho, so Imma vote [VOTE: rem] aubergine

[VOTE: sean] aubergine

Howdy y'all, what have I missed?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:21 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:11 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:49 pm Cape Wolf
Falcon Town
Robyn Wolf
Rem Town
Tutuu Town
Epi Town
Can you tell me how you arrived at reads 1, 2, 5 and 6?
1. Cape established a copying pattern which I find mafia more likely to do, in addition cape hasn't shown town.
2. Falcon hasn't gone to hide yet so he's town.
5. Tutuu is pushing content harder than a wombat with a number fetish, which is at least pro town + gut read.
6. W Epi feels stale. This Epi doesn't feel stale. Gut read mostly.
2) Really? Cause when we were interacting and I was promoting pressure for Seanzie, Falcon shaded me and then bug the hell out and then came back with a naked vote, so they have been hiding
Falcon literally anime gif'd. They aren't hiding.

He will be gone for the weekend tho, Rock n Roll duties call

https://www.dogpatchmusicfest.com/lineup/smokewagon

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:02 pm Holy smokes, my post count...

uh oh. We have a problem when Falcon is anime gif-ing.

I'll take this as an admission of guilt. Yer Maf aintcha?

Holy smokes, my post count...

[VOTE: guillo] aubergine

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:42 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:29 pm eod is still some time away and there's time for ppl to come and post more, and hopefully post normally

but im not opposed to chopping any one of the people who hasnt given too much normal and readable opinions. as in, understandable. or any opinions at all

i dont think town wins if there's too many of players like that alive at mid game
I'd prefer Zenon over Seanzie in this moment. Zenon is bragging about providing content but the vast majority of it is superfluous.

Seanzie basically looked at the thread and said "fuck this."

I can empathize a little with the latter. I have no tolerance for the former.
Lmfao I'm so sick of people acting like I do nothing because I use mafia as a way to make friends and chat in between actually playing the game.

I could quote every post I've made with actual game content in it but I'm lazy your treating me exactly as wolfs often try to in order to diminish my input and volume because discrediting high posters is an important tactic when wolfing.

Of course nobody will listen when I'm dead

Page 3 is where we start to see Neon getting more involved with the game outside of fluffy type stuff, and the fact that she's sticking to this point currently is a vote in her favour

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:07 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:30 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:26 pm Rem and Robyn are mafia. Go.
I disagree
Good. Tell me more.
I don't really have a read either way on Rem yet but I will eventually.

Robyn seems towny to me though.
I mean... this is like my 7th post

Your read here on Robyn is a throw away, since you claimed they weren't Maf, and also don't have a read on them.

And there's nothing you point to that informs the Robyn read, it's vague & generalized

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:05 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:26 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:39 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:28 pm Tutuu's response re: Epi is so towny, even if she has TMI, I can't bite her today
Tutuu is playing exactly like a wolf who forgot how to wolf cause they didn't rand wolf in 2 years.

They are "trying to play different" they are pushing this spreadsheet they've never done before because it looks helpful to the game but is largely just busy work masquerading as effort.

Time will tell. She's earned a D1 lynch reprieve in my eyes
I don't get it. Why?

Like I mentioned, her response regarding Epi is towny, it has actual content that I can point to and follow and see how she got her read.

I'm not towncoring her by any stretch, but I'm not voting there today.

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:58 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:57 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:00 am
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:49 pmRobyn Wolf
elaborate
You entered and placed doubt on yourself and capacities. Wolves are .0007% more likely to do this as an excuse for one's own play.
You mean to excusr themselves later for “poor” plays?
I find that wolfs rarely actually attempt to create excuses for poor play

Page 2, and this is the only post I'd say counts as content vs fluff

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:33 pm Rem seems like normal Rem but I'm not hard town reading her yet. I don't really understand the thought to pair them as wolf wolf meh

Neon's ISO is 5 pages.

This is the only post on page 1 that I would say has actual content.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:00 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:45 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:41 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:35 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:29 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:23 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:10 pm

I wouldn't say that.
I mean I would since 100/500 posts is quite literally 20%
Posts =/= content
Can you go through Zenon's ISO and point out four posts with actual content?
This guy bemoaning reading the thread handing out assignments.
Yup. Can you do it? It's a challenge.
I would prefer not to. @falcon45ca

I'll give it a go

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:39 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:28 pm Tutuu's response re: Epi is so towny, even if she has TMI, I can't bite her today
Tutuu is playing exactly like a wolf who forgot how to wolf cause they didn't rand wolf in 2 years.

They are "trying to play different" they are pushing this spreadsheet they've never done before because it looks helpful to the game but is largely just busy work masquerading as effort.

Time will tell. She's earned a D1 lynch reprieve in my eyes

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:28 pm Tutuu's response re: Epi is so towny, even if she has TMI, I can't vote her today

Fixed...I am not a cannibal folks, promise

Tutuu's response re: Epi is so towny, even if she has TMI, I can't bite her today

[VOTE: neon] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:01 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:00 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:33 pm tutuu, why are you voting for Seanzie?
i saw you voting him
On a related subject though, how does this help you win more?
working with your townreads is good. trying to be a solo hero rarely works

Talk to me about your Epi read. Why is he town, what posts have stood out to you the most?

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:12 pm
Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:14 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:12 pm doctors find anything, zenon?
Nope which sucks they gave me some drugs for my symptoms.

Been coughing up blood a little today but not as bad so I'm gonna ignore it I think

Jesus.

Take care of yerself girl, don't die yet
I promised I wouldn't. Can't break a promise...

As an player who partakes in this grand stage we all call life, I can assure you that is not true

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:14 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:12 pm doctors find anything, zenon?
Nope which sucks they gave me some drugs for my symptoms.

Been coughing up blood a little today but not as bad so I'm gonna ignore it I think

Jesus.

Take care of yerself girl, don't die yet

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:38 pm accidental double negative in above post. meant only one negative

So that's a negative on the double negative...which is a negative on a positive...

That's a bad way to boost a battery yo

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:22 am Okay, y'all need to chill out. Wtf is this 8 pages BS?

*checks player list* *Sees Zenon* *Sees Tutuu* *Sees Robyn*

Oh...

*checks again* *Sees Falcon* *Sees Wilgy*

Okay should balance a little?

*checks post counts* *Wilgy highposting*

Uhh... damn.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:23 amPeace.

This is getting Sean voted eh? I'm not sure I see this as AI from Sean at all tbh
I didn't say it is alignment indicative, i said his entrance in underwhelming, which it is. Which is odd

So is he underwhelming town then? I find it odd that you're voting someone for reasons you don't think are AI

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:15 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:47 pm i'll try to play more tight than normal usually i play loose but im in a tryhard mood
proof: i was about to gut townread robyn for silent voting me and slapping rem around. IF i were to play loose like normal. but not today. we're playing solid today. conservative
[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

Being conservative is anti-thetical to the nature of tutuu
yea. but i want to win more

I don't find this towny, to change one's playstyle in order to win. In fact I find it quite wolfy

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:22 am Okay, y'all need to chill out. Wtf is this 8 pages BS?

*checks player list* *Sees Zenon* *Sees Tutuu* *Sees Robyn*

Oh...

*checks again* *Sees Falcon* *Sees Wilgy*

Okay should balance a little?

*checks post counts* *Wilgy highposting*

Uhh... damn.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:23 amPeace.

This is getting Sean voted eh? I'm not sure I see this as AI from Sean at all tbh

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:16 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Seanzie's entrance was unsatisfying

How do you find Sean's entrance to satisfy when he's town? What's this entrance missing?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:51 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:37 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:25 am
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:11 am zenon often townreads me prematurely, that's nai but it's worrying from any other player

gullio seeing tvt violence is something i'll speak about later but it should be obvious what i'm not saying here

@DrWilgy how serious is your cape vote, you haven't said much
As serious as Saskatoon sayonara (so about 12).

Plus there's like a .000001% chance I accept a Tutuu 3 person wagon to exist at the same time as a Cape 4 person wagon. That'd just be silly. Clearly Cape should be a 5 person wagon, Tutuu 3, and then we need another at 1 so we have an arpeggio.

I feel like Saskatoon only entered your vocabulary after you met me, and now I consider myself a cultural attache
I learn from only the best 81.56% of the time.

I'll take those odds

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