The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:29 am Why make it hard?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:08 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:06 am Is it Esooa or is it SPF?

Imma go with SPF.

have you not read my posts bro

No

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:06 am Is it Esooa or is it SPF?

Imma go with SPF.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:06 am I was wondering why this game seemed borked and I realise it's because I don't have Nutella's 300 posts of either herself spewing herself mafia or the Mafia spewing themselves mafia off her content to read.

Who is the Nutella here?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:27 am Go read the posts I made in the other thread that were meant to be here

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:42 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:34 am


He made an alt he played on on MU specifically so he could slank and not get night killed so I figured you should know it's something he would do

seems a lot more obvious than he's not posting cause he's scum which is ???

no, I didn't know about his alt. I do know that he has been aggressive even in games where he openly complains about always being the N1 kill because he just can't stop himself from murdering mafia when he's town. I also know that he has said he feels unable to fully replicate the spark of towny energy he has when he is scum, which jives with his uninspired and biteless pushes this game.

why does mac go into a game where he thinks alison and sloonei are powerwolfing and decide that his best move is to afk and try to make it through the night alive while forfeiting thread control to them?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:33 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:30 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:27 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:25 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:24 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am
no

would ur answer change if I told you I was

no

I think you're scum

why

cause mac low posting is blatantly to avoid being NK'd and he's done it before

He has no reason to low post as scum

So you scum reading that and not actually thinking about his posts is kinda weird

when has he actually done that

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:31 am Like idk that it’s really scummy but it’s definitely not townie

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:27 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:25 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:24 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:19 am
so

are you scum?

no

would ur answer change if I told you I was

no

I think you're scum

why

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:24 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:19 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:07 am btw I'd like everyone who thinks Mac is scum to say so right now

so

are you scum?

no

would ur answer change if I told you I was

no

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:19 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:07 am btw I'd like everyone who thinks Mac is scum to say so right now

so

are you scum?

no

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:19 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:07 am btw I'd like everyone who thinks Mac is scum to say so right now

so

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:08 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:07 am btw I'd like everyone who thinks Mac is scum to say so right now

if his game doesn't improve, then he is

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:50 am Now I'm going to call you out for something else:

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 am I have long given up on making anyone trust me. Even for the people that townread me I am the guy nobody talks about. Call out my defeatism all you want.

If this is so, then what has been the point of your exchange with Alison on this page?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:03 am Would you stop pushing me for my Martin read? Would you possibly regret ignoring those two posts where I called your issue with my Martin read a playstyle issue?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:09 am Not particularly desperate to convince a wolf anything. I want to know why you ghosted twice when I brought up this particular point twice. I can show it was a valid point that you ignored. I can demonstrate that deliberately ignoring a valid point is scummy, especially when, with some more evidence, I can show it was hypocritical and done in guilty conscience.

You seem to want Alison to see you as honest here. You frame it as a suspicion against her, but the motivation comes across more (to me) as you wanting to be town-read than wanting to catch mafiers.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:03 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:02 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:33 am

ChopChop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:23 am I mainly TR Falcon, been vibing with em.

Slightly TR Alison or You (whichever one commented on my TWTBW post, you guys are similar so I don’t remember)

TL Urist and SL Tony

kinda think chop is flying solo here. This looks like someone fumbling around in the dark.

moving chop to mixed.

hate this post

Why

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:33 am

ChopChop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:23 am I mainly TR Falcon, been vibing with em.

Slightly TR Alison or You (whichever one commented on my TWTBW post, you guys are similar so I don’t remember)

TL Urist and SL Tony

kinda think chop is flying solo here. This looks like someone fumbling around in the dark.

moving chop to mixed.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:55 am @esooa - thanks for explaining the townlean on rej. i'm not sure that i share the same perspective about those specific posts being town-indicative for him - i've noticed that scum tend to try to offset their nervousness in the early game by making a lot of jokes or being overly flippant. joking about being "super towny" to deflect a scumread isn't behavior that screams: "this person is not nervous", imo. but i appreciate the perspective and i agree that his tone doesnt feel overblown

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 am I mean like my overall playstyle. I think you’re closer to my town game than wolf game too. I just mean that I look at the first page of your ISO and I think “why do I need to bother keep looking all of the info is right here”

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:31 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:29 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:25 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:24 am what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?

Maybe when I get to a computer. But read the first 20-30 posts in their iso (starting day 1). Tell me that you see something that is not a wolf

idk what this means

Read Chop’s posts and tell me they’re town. It feels like every single one gives off wolf vibes

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:18 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:30 pm i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )

Heya, here to play some low effort, this is the first post that pinged me. I personally don't like posts like this because they are confusing as heck. This could be the most unneccessary soft claim, or this could be a bait, or this could be anything.
I always ask myself why a town should do this, the last time I saw someone do this they ended up masons with someone and they got lynched.

Anyone beat me to this.


Also I see Long Con and KZA are voted currently. I feel whenever I play here Long Con gets voted somehow. Will drop my opinions once I am cought up.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:25 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:18 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:30 pm i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )

Heya, here to play some low effort, this is the first post that pinged me. I personally don't like posts like this because they are confusing as heck. This could be the most unneccessary soft claim, or this could be a bait, or this could be anything.
I always ask myself why a town should do this, the last time I saw someone do this they ended up masons with someone and they got lynched.

Anyone beat me to this.


Also I see Long Con and KZA are voted currently. I feel whenever I play here Long Con gets voted somehow. Will drop my opinions once I am cought up.

So looks like Rej is Maf

nah, I am the towniest town to ever town through this town

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Rej wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:23 pm Rej probably a wolf for that opening gif.

I’m really good at mafia fyi.

cmon pal, since when are opening gifs scummy? this triggers me, they are part of a Rej with positive mindset

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:25 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:24 am what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?

Maybe when I get to a computer. But read the first 20-30 posts in their iso (starting day 1). Tell me that you see something that is not a wolf

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:16 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:14 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:14 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:04 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:01 am anyone online and wanna discuss anything specific w/me?

i am tired and still not up to speed, sorry.

what's your take on the game state so far? how are we doing? what would you like to see happen over the last ~24 hours of day 1?

1. if you're town, then i want you to townread me in the next 24 hours. i can't snap my fingers and make it happen, but that's my wish. this is partially for selfish reasons and partially because i feel like it'll be good for the threadstate if we can work together. having as many people to bounce my reads off of as possible is really important to me in a game like this

2.the gamestate is fine. i'm concerned about the fact that we've been hearing from the same ~10 voices or so, when this is a 20+ player game. i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication. i don't really feel like any valuable towncores are forming today and i also don't feel that people who ~are~ universal townreads have any real sense of cohesion - feels like everyone is just kind of blindly stumbling around shouting their own suspicions right now

so uh....maybe the threadstate isn't as good as i thought, lmao, but most of this is probably par for the course for d1 of a game of this size. the best thing that could happen in the next 24 hours is if the players who have been largely silent today came back with strong and well-substantiated thoughts, but i don't think that's going to happen

bounce reads off me. I'm feeling bouncy

could you give me your GTH reads on the following names?

urist
rej
poison
c4e5g3d5
nanook

ChopChop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:16 amWho Jess?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:14 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:14 am I think Jess is not scum

what swayed you?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:14 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:04 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:01 am anyone online and wanna discuss anything specific w/me?

i am tired and still not up to speed, sorry.

what's your take on the game state so far? how are we doing? what would you like to see happen over the last ~24 hours of day 1?

1. if you're town, then i want you to townread me in the next 24 hours. i can't snap my fingers and make it happen, but that's my wish. this is partially for selfish reasons and partially because i feel like it'll be good for the threadstate if we can work together. having as many people to bounce my reads off of as possible is really important to me in a game like this

2.the gamestate is fine. i'm concerned about the fact that we've been hearing from the same ~10 voices or so, when this is a 20+ player game. i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication. i don't really feel like any valuable towncores are forming today and i also don't feel that people who ~are~ universal townreads have any real sense of cohesion - feels like everyone is just kind of blindly stumbling around shouting their own suspicions right now

so uh....maybe the threadstate isn't as good as i thought, lmao, but most of this is probably par for the course for d1 of a game of this size. the best thing that could happen in the next 24 hours is if the players who have been largely silent today came back with strong and well-substantiated thoughts, but i don't think that's going to happen

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:14 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:04 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:01 am anyone online and wanna discuss anything specific w/me?

i am tired and still not up to speed, sorry.

what's your take on the game state so far? how are we doing? what would you like to see happen over the last ~24 hours of day 1?

1. if you're town, then i want you to townread me in the next 24 hours. i can't snap my fingers and make it happen, but that's my wish. this is partially for selfish reasons and partially because i feel like it'll be good for the threadstate if we can work together. having as many people to bounce my reads off of as possible is really important to me in a game like this

2.the gamestate is fine. i'm concerned about the fact that we've been hearing from the same ~10 voices or so, when this is a 20+ player game. i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication. i don't really feel like any valuable towncores are forming today and i also don't feel that people who ~are~ universal townreads have any real sense of cohesion - feels like everyone is just kind of blindly stumbling around shouting their own suspicions right now

so uh....maybe the threadstate isn't as good as i thought, lmao, but most of this is probably par for the course for d1 of a game of this size. the best thing that could happen in the next 24 hours is if the players who have been largely silent today came back with strong and well-substantiated thoughts, but i don't think that's going to happen

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:16 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:10 am he thing that i like the most about rej is him calling himself mischop bait, lol

Ironically this is waht I have liked the least. :P

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:43 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:42 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:40 pm As an anime connoisseur, you all have horrible taste.

first gif from a decent anime

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:40 pm As an anime connoisseur, you all have horrible taste.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:46 pm cards on the table: i'm worried about foresight's defense of me being TMI

he seemed actively suspicious, if not enraged about the fact that i was refusing to out my reads in the early game

and even though a lot of the pressure i've faced today has revolved around that EXACT dynamic, foresight has written it off as "nothing" and downplayed the suspicion on me as being dumb

and like, it is dumb. but i don't know if foresight would organically think that given the reaction that he showed to my posts at the time - i do feel like it lacks a bit of internal consistency

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:40 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:05 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:04 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:43 pm addendum: you seem to take issue with me not being comfortable outing a townlean on you in the early game but then outing a townlean on you after the "test" - this is because my early townlean on you was mostly "tone/town!sloonei vibes" - the type of vague, uncharacteristic read that contains generic reasoning that any scum on auto-pilot would be able to out. it felt like a better idea to me to wait until i became more sure of your alignment and also to wait until i could articulate my townread on you better before i decided to publicly state it. your reaction to the "test" gave me the confidence to do exactly that

I liked Jess's post but this feels like a slip sagfdgldfasghkdfg

How is it a slip? I don't get the angle here.

she's admitting that her own read is something a scum would say, is the idea

more so that she's thinking about her reads in terms of "reads a scum would out" as if she's trying to out reads a scum wouldn't consciously, which I mean, is never something I've done as town probably even once?

did you not like my response on http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 19#p737619 ?