The Syndicate

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:54 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:17 pm Anyway, before Seanzie made his comment:

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:13 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:55 am I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.

I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.

Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

What about Seanzie is sus to you?

He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?

What specifically have you seen from FS that doesn’t merit voting there?

@Vivax you didn’t answer this but have gone on to post since

I think that FS play and posting was townie, mafia is less likely to break rules. I think Seanzie should have seen the same. The end.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:28 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:18 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:15 pm Does anyone actually know what's going on because I'm getting lost in the multiple worlds and they're mixing together

No.

Neon says golden is obv town, because obviously.
Golden is right, even though he’s wrong.
Seanzie is here.

It’s above my pay grade. I get paid in peanuts and popcorn kernels

Golden is town because if you run every scenario through your head tell me where does a play like that make sense in any world where Golden is mafia?

It just doesn't. The town motivation is stronger in every world.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:23 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:08 pm There's two worlds here and I hate trying to figure out which one is real.

Describe both worlds.

One. Your doc Golden is right your powers Golden was right but outed you so you want to make it look like Golden is wrong so you don't get killed

Two. Golden is wrong your not doc Golden was probably never even the target Golden has played this entire game under an understanding that was false and continues to blindly follow the conclusions made while under that understanding without any reevaluation about what changes in a world where their entire worldview is based on lies.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:38 pm I do think there’s benefit to what I did. The mafia have to make a call between focusing on me and Sean and letting the cop and deputy live, or dealing with us. I like pushing them into that corner.

But I acknowledge and apologise if I’ve ruined the game for Seanzie.

You know, somewhere out there is a cop and they will perhaps mechanically clear people as town at some stage. My perspective is different to yours, that’s all.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:30 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:13 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:09 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:51 pm I see, apparently scotty voted for me because sean said he'd elim me.

I think this makes no sense.

I mean it makes perfect sense where I'm standing.

Why? There should be no connection between whether I believe Sean saved me, and whether he (afterwards) says he would elim me. What is the connection?

I must be dense, because all I see is Sean signaling he did not save you and that we should be voting there.

Please explain like I’m 5

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:08 pm There's two worlds here and I hate trying to figure out which one is real.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:36 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:32 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:52 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:49 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:47 pm At the moment I expect Seanzie is upset with my post and look, I get it. SVS is too.

Wdym by upset. That's not an emotion that should influence decision making process though it's quite popular as of late.

Old school etiquette would say that I should never make the post I did about what I believe is evidence I was protected, because it paints a target for the mafia on who to kill.

My take is that this is appropriate in survive-to-win vote conditions, but that in ‘can win when dead’ games the rule should be different.

I can understand if I’m right but Seanzie, who in my view has played very well, feels like I’ve done something to compromise his game.

Now I know 'ya trippin'.

My play this game can be accurately described with many colorful adjectives and flowery language. "very well" is far from an accurate description of my play this game though.

"very meh" might work.

Look, if I’m wrong about your identity, I still think you’ve been civclearing well

And if I’m right about your identity you’ve literally saved two civs, which is as good as play gets.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:52 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:49 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:47 pm At the moment I expect Seanzie is upset with my post and look, I get it. SVS is too.

Wdym by upset. That's not an emotion that should influence decision making process though it's quite popular as of late.

Old school etiquette would say that I should never make the post I did about what I believe is evidence I was protected, because it paints a target for the mafia on who to kill.

My take is that this is appropriate in survive-to-win vote conditions, but that in ‘can win when dead’ games the rule should be different.

I can understand if I’m right but Seanzie, who in my view has played very well, feels like I’ve done something to compromise his game.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:26 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:23 pm Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

Nothing about Seanzie’s game has made sense.

It reads as a sheep wearing wolf’s clothing while also cosplaying as a badger

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:23 pm Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:28 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:16 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:16 am [VOTE: fingersplints] aubergine

Pls don't self vote :/

I got plenty of time to move it

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:42 pm [VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

why? I will not allow a low poster I *know* is town to be elimmed. You went from doming Neon all day to this in the blink of an eye.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:16 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:27 am @fingersplints

tell me about Neon.

Tell you what about them?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:47 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:45 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:56 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.

I’ve done a metric fuckton of analysing and contributing this game.

You don’t agree with my analysis and contribution therefore you think I’m bad.

Do you think contributing should get a pass?

I'm most certainly talking about Sean the person I've been on for two days

People play different ways, but do you really think level of contribution is a towntell?

I think lack of solve is a glaring problem in my wolf game and I think Sean should know that so I think it is important to note and that him ignoring that but lucy noting I'm well outside what I've displayed as wolf is an important juxtaposition. Yes.

I also think wolfs often struggle to contribute in meaningful ways in general more than town so yes.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:21 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:18 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:13 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:08 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.

So, I'm town?

That is not even remotely what I've said here but I shouldn't be surprised that you'd continue to misrepresent anything I say.

It isn't what you said, it was a perspective slip. If you thought I was wolf, you wouldn't be complaining that you're working so hard and I'm not and I'm getting town read.

I hate this fucking shit.

I said what I said because I'm fucking annoyed and frustrated it wasn't a fucking slip it's true regardless. If I'm town your wolf I'm wolf your town we are both town or we are both wolf.

My perspective is that I'm doing infinitely more than you and getting treated poorer my alignment and yours means fucking nothing try to find a real reason.

I think maybe you should step away for a moment if you're getting so frustrated that you need to swear so much. I'm not trying to frustrate you, but I am allowed to point out something I think could be a perspective slip.

I swear a lot tbf that's just like my default regardless of emotion. Its like an east coast thing I think lol. I can try to swear less but it's hard to turn off.

You can point it out and I can tell you it's wrong lol. I think perspective slips are another mafia buzz word that are relied on to heavily for their actual value.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:21 pm seanzie is not really helping anyone at this point they are hindering the thread imo. Humble as can be. I have read seanzie from D 1 as town. Neon is making me doubt myself. Gonna read back on seanzie.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:18 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:13 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:08 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.

So, I'm town?

That is not even remotely what I've said here but I shouldn't be surprised that you'd continue to misrepresent anything I say.

It isn't what you said, it was a perspective slip. If you thought I was wolf, you wouldn't be complaining that you're working so hard and I'm not and I'm getting town read.

I hate this fucking shit.

I said what I said because I'm fucking annoyed and frustrated it wasn't a fucking slip it's true regardless. If I'm town your wolf I'm wolf your town we are both town or we are both wolf.

My perspective is that I'm doing infinitely more than you and getting treated poorer my alignment and yours means fucking nothing try to find a real reason.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:08 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.

So, I'm town?

That is not even remotely what I've said here but I shouldn't be surprised that you'd continue to misrepresent anything I say.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:09 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:01 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:04 pm

You said splints but you didn't VOTE splints. I didn't say that your vote was a reaction, I was asking why Seanzie's posts didn't push you away from splints?

Because neither neons nor splints role makes the other good or bad. They are 2 independent players.

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

Everything about Jack's play reads "first game wolf rand". You can disagree with the "quiet wolfchat" part, but that doesn't change the fact that Jack looks like they randed wolf and didn't feel good about it.

This is so unbelievably bad it actually pains me. Sean I thought you were better than Level zero takes about subs and pressure.

I mean you kinda gotta say this though, don't you?

No i don't. This reasoning is ass tier. Period.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:03 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:23 pm Anyway, I do not think Neon's response to Seanzie's pressure looks good.

You do not know me. This reaction is exactly normal for me... and Sean should know that except Sean is going to convince you to kill me for crappie reasons and than your going to hard defend him every single day until limlo for no reason and say "I don't see why you still think Sean looks bad"

I have literally spent all day trying to take this game somewhere. Sean has literally spent all day doing????????????

Pop in leave pretend to be in wolf chat lane call me scum and act like he's solved the whole game when he hasn't leave.

Yes this is town clearly.

Glad we agree on my alignment.

Yes thank you for continuing to blind me with your amazing town play frankly your the best mafia player I've ever seen and I'm so glad to see a master of the craft figure out the game with such A level analysis of the content in play.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:01 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:04 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:46 pm

You reacted to Seanzie’s posts today by voting for fingersplints when Sean specifically called out splints as neons teammate. Doesn’t Sean’s theories push you away from splints?

Where is the real Golden and what have you done with him??

I've been saying splints the whole day period, it certainly wasn't a reaction to Sean. Splints being bad doesn't mean neon is.

You said splints but you didn't VOTE splints. I didn't say that your vote was a reaction, I was asking why Seanzie's posts didn't push you away from splints?

Because neither neons nor splints role makes the other good or bad. They are 2 independent players.

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

Everything about Jack's play reads "first game wolf rand". You can disagree with the "quiet wolfchat" part, but that doesn't change the fact that Jack looks like they randed wolf and didn't feel good about it.

This is so unbelievably bad it actually pains me. Sean I thought you were better than Level zero takes about subs and pressure.

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?

I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:23 pm Anyway, I do not think Neon's response to Seanzie's pressure looks good.

You do not know me. This reaction is exactly normal for me... and Sean should know that except Sean is going to convince you to kill me for crappie reasons and than your going to hard defend him every single day until limlo for no reason and say "I don't see why you still think Sean looks bad"

I have literally spent all day trying to take this game somewhere. Sean has literally spent all day doing????????????

Pop in leave pretend to be in wolf chat lane call me scum and act like he's solved the whole game when he hasn't leave.

Yes this is town clearly.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:22 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:18 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:14 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:12 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Because neither neons nor splints role makes the other good or bad. They are 2 independent players.

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

What are you asking me here Golden? Cut to the chase.

OK, I'll cut to the chase.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Are you crazy?

You aren't yourself

You sheeped onto the sabi vote and didn't really give reasons.
You haven't voted today all day even when saying you suspected splints.
You haven't paid attention on Seanzie at all... you just keep saying you don't understand his posts even while explaining one of them basically perfectly. I don't get the vibe you don't understand them, I get the sense you're preserving an option.

When Sean said he gutread Neon as bad something clicked for me.... I voted Neon to see what it did for you.

It caused you to accuse Sean of derailing, and to say 'wheres the real golden gone'.

I'm here, and I'm coming for you.

Well, I'm here and you are barking up the wrong tree. Look at seanzies posts. He was posting pretending he was in a chat room, doing nothing to move the thread forward just posting nonsense. The beginning of the game he was on about only tunneling. If I'm wrong about him, So be it, but as a first time player with him something seems very wrong.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:09 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:06 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:04 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:46 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:39 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:24 pm

The intent is pleasingly obvious… he thinks neon is bad.

"Many" of his posts, not just that one.

You reacted to Seanzie’s posts today by voting for fingersplints when Sean specifically called out splints as neons teammate. Doesn’t Sean’s theories push you away from splints?

Where is the real Golden and what have you done with him??

I've been saying splints the whole day period, it certainly wasn't a reaction to Sean. Splints being bad doesn't mean neon is.

You said splints but you didn't VOTE splints. I didn't say that your vote was a reaction, I was asking why Seanzie's posts didn't push you away from splints?

Because neither neons nor splints role makes the other good or bad. They are 2 independent players.

I was hoping you'd have something deeper than that. I tend to agree that even if seanzie is right about neon, the theory of 'quiet wolfchat' isn't right.

I don't agree with the part of Sean's case that is about Jack. Doesn't ring true to me. I'm more interested in his gut read of neon than that.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:34 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy





D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon



Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata

People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy

I really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...

To go further into what I personally think we can get out of this and what I'm looking at personally when I analyze the raw data

I think there's never more than 1 wolf that votes on both maj wagons so at most there's one in Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

I TR SVS and Lucy so I think at most one in Sean and Golden and would you look at that this last page solidified that for me lol. It's possible it's none though.

I think there's 1 on Wilgz at least but probably exactly one unless Sean is wolf. Which is one in golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy. Which continues that same trend.

Regardless of Sean's alignment I think there's no more than one in Kate Myself and Scotty and probably exactly one in all scenarios.

I think there's a wolf in the 8 who have never has a vote at EoD which is just duh Level analysis but whatever at least one in Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty


At most one in the group who have never made a stand Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy.


I think there's only ever one in Kate, Scotty, Mata

And i think Dennis might be the deep wolf and if Sean flips Red I'm going all in on Dennis.

Is that analysis enough for you Sean?

I definitely triggered something

No what you did was detailed a conversation that was already happening with baseless accusations and a weak attempt to shift focus onto me

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy





D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon



Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata

People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy

I really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...

To go further into what I personally think we can get out of this and what I'm looking at personally when I analyze the raw data

I think there's never more than 1 wolf that votes on both maj wagons so at most there's one in Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

I TR SVS and Lucy so I think at most one in Sean and Golden and would you look at that this last page solidified that for me lol. It's possible it's none though.

I think there's 1 on Wilgz at least but probably exactly one unless Sean is wolf. Which is one in golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy. Which continues that same trend.

Regardless of Sean's alignment I think there's no more than one in Kate Myself and Scotty and probably exactly one in all scenarios.

I think there's a wolf in the 8 who have never has a vote at EoD which is just duh Level analysis but whatever at least one in Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty


At most one in the group who have never made a stand Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy.


I think there's only ever one in Kate, Scotty, Mata

And i think Dennis might be the deep wolf and if Sean flips Red I'm going all in on Dennis.

Is that analysis enough for you Sean?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:03 pm Suggesting otherwise is bad faith.

And seanzie is using bad faith to set me up which I mean fair play.

But Seanzie plants the seeds by talking about how I'm so stealthy and good and people underestimate me so my obvious townyness is actually just a wolf in civ clothing.

See lol look Mac said so.

So now the seed is planted and ope here a case on neon that is 1/3rds about reading into a player who is not Neon plays differently than Neon and did like... nothing

What pray tell did Jack do that makes me scum? Because from what I saw on read back they kinda did nothing so you really should read me on me and me is bleeding heart townie.

This is not Neon scum range. You know it. I know it. I know you know it. So why Seanzie are you trying to say it is?

I've spent this whole phase doing the most work in this thread I'm not a leader but I'm trying to give the leaders info and what I see so we can coalesce town into a win. You don't push me here if you're town because you know I don't play this way as wolf.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:01 pm I liked seeing the raw data, which is why I immediately asked.. what can we do with this.

Tbh I felt like Neon, Golden and I were going in the right direction with neon's new additions. Then Sean came in and derailed all that. Sean I'm trying really hard to believe you're town, since so many do but I'm struggling to understand your intent with many of your posts.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:49 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:19 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:46 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:23 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy





D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon



Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata

People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy

I really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...

This post is IIoA and you're severely underestimating Neon.

Dafuq does IIoA mean?

Information Instead of Analysis. There is nothing townie about IIoA posts - they are no more difficult or unusual for a wolf to make than a townie. An abundance of IIoA over analysis/worldbuilding can be wolf-indicative though. It is a subset of CWAC.

I literally do not analyze as wolf lol

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:46 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:23 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy





D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon



Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata

People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy

I really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...

This post is IIoA and you're severely underestimating Neon.

Dafuq does IIoA mean?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:46 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:34 am If you don't trust me, trust Mac:

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:34 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:28 pm If you were to be like "Mac who do you think has just been wolfy in this game" Ilario would be my top scumread by some distance. Then Neon. Ender would be my top town.

But I have this gift/curse of being able to ignore my own intuitions and evaluate through level 1 scumreads which causes me to have unstable reads until I don't.

And right now I don't have enough benchmarking to feel confident on anything so I'm still in flywheel mode. Spinning spinning spinning.

Am I solely scummy because of my treatment of santy? Or is it because I suspect we are being hoodwinked here?

I don't think my wolf range is this wide I think I've clearly played in my town range... I'm just an idiot

Neon you have just had two monster wolf games in a row where you subverted ýour perceived wolfrange and dined out on people underestimating you so you really can't make this argument if you are town.

You're scummy because of the way you handled claims, some of your porscha interactions and generally being openwolfy and lying a lot.

Don't underestimate Neon.

I was also town that game so

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy





D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon



Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata

People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy

I really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:10 am @Seanzie you ok?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:10 am @Seanzie you ok?