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by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:26 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:08 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:24 am Eh... I just realized it's Rondo.
He seems a bit perimeter-ish as of late, but what are you seeing?
When you said that you'd've killed me, it clicked. Rondo was rolefishing me yesterday.
yes. yes I was. I specifically said as much
Good game. Try again next time.
You do realise that after I flip town you are going to make it easy for the wolf to make a case on you or not even have to because you are probably going to get pushed or roxy tomorrow.
I'm comfortable with my decision to flip you.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:00 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:58 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:08 pm [VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

Seanzie and Falcon are raising some decent points. Dunno if I'd end the day here without more, call it a signal that I intend to dig in here too.
ngl this is shitty digging. Digging usually involves asking questions like Seanzie and Falcon are doing, Naked vote is pointless. But go on
Lol, Yeah, this is dripping with scum frustration.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:08 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:24 am Eh... I just realized it's Rondo.
He seems a bit perimeter-ish as of late, but what are you seeing?
When you said that you'd've killed me, it clicked. Rondo was rolefishing me yesterday.
yes. yes I was. I specifically said as much
Good game. Try again next time.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:34 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

I'll just sit here twiddlin' my thumbs until you all figure it out.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:29 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:08 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:24 am Eh... I just realized it's Rondo.
He seems a bit perimeter-ish as of late, but what are you seeing?
When you said that you'd've killed me, it clicked. Rondo was rolefishing me yesterday.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:44 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

S~V~S wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:28 am
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:25 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:12 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:51 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
I thought Lucy was bad early, I *knew* she was bad when she got pissy that Kate was dead posting. It was almost like, “Shut up, you, I killed you!”. I think she was telling the truth that she was trying to wedge Kate/Dennis. That’s a big chunk of why I suspected her before I backed off.

I think Neon is town. No baddie would have gone that balls to the walls to protect a teamie, imo. But she made it sound like aggro defense is more the norm now, so outside of my experience.
I have consistently thought neon was town, that’s my gut read. I’m just wondering if someone like rondo has a better read.

Where are you at on Roxy and Rondo? (I’m thinking here of rondo as bea and reevaluating reads on friends.)
I’m going to reread them tomorrow as well as splints and you. Obvs with the role claim my town read on you stands, but I want to see interactions too, so I’ll pull in Mata too.
I still have to reread Bea, but Rondo I think is incompatible with Lucy. Lucy’s discussion with him after she was outed doesn’t look like distancing to me, it looked real. But having seen some skilled distancing between you and Quin in Game 1, we know that can be faked by a skillful baddie and I would bet Rondos bad game and civ game are super similar. Chaos players usually are.

I did a quick skim of Roxy looking for our interactions, and found that they’ve all been pretty much OT. So imma do a full read there. Looking back it looks like my entire read of her is tone. And at this stage of the game I’d like more than tone.
Rondo was nowhere near Lucy's biggest critic and actually seemed to try to save Lucy a few times - why would Lucy specifically ask Rondo about their case?

Also, just saying "how did you catch me" and rondo saying "I'll tell you in post" doesn't really do much for me.

Speaking of which @RondoDimBuckle please share the contests of that google doc.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:58 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

@RondoDimBuckle please give evidence I was shielding Golden.

You pushed that idea hard even though I did not ever actively suggest or confirm anything about Golden's theory. Thinking back on it, the only reason I can see for this is rolefishing.

Scotty ended up dead. Who do you think would have figured out that I wasn't doc?
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:52 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Exhibit 1: Rondo more than anyone else (aside from Scotty) tried to push me about me/Golden. He numerous times said things like I was shielding Golden (never happened) and pushed about if I had a doc clear on Golden. Rondo more than anyone else I think would figure out Scotty was doc.

Exhibit 2: Rondo had major TMI on Lucy and yet bent over backwards to find an alternative wagon and set up possible future miselims. You can say Rondo was just new in the game figuring out where to go, but it really doesn't look like it reading Rondo's D5 in hindsight. Rondo strongly pushed Lucy without any reconsideration, while also asking others to explore town!Lucy worlds, tie people to wolf!Lucy, and try to push LHF like Neon and Falcon over Lucy without ever flip-flopping on Lucy themselves.

Exhibit 3: Rondo is clearly pissed when we don't just clear him from "Lucy TMI" that was obviously not clear-worthy. This is very clearly just a bad wolf-play that they hoped would win the game.

Exhibit 4: Bea/Lucy/Mata makes a lot of sense with how the first few days of the game felt.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:27 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:24 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Eh... I just realized it's Rondo.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:45 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Well, now I'm bored. Someone do a backflip.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:17 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:12 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Well okay, "never" is a long time... we will know after the game presumably if Golden or Gman tells us.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:11 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

fingersplints wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:08 am Are you greenchecked though

The whole thing is a bit confusing to me
We will never know for sure. Golden cannot confirm or deny, but I did get the feeling I was.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:59 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Neon wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty



I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.

Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?

How confident are we on Sean being town?
I mean... I was a little confused by Golden's play earlier today, but I'm at least like 95% sure I was greenchecked. I was greenchecked so hard that I figured out Golden was the cop and started sheeping them so hard that they thought I was the doc. It created this whole thing.

If I wasn't greenchecked, then I'll be very confused as to how this whole game actually went.

Since this is not confirmable by Golden, I invite you to continue doing your thing with this line of inquiry, but just be warned... my responses might just be "I'm greenchecked" so... have fun.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:53 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Golden wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:19 am It’s really very early to say ‘I’m gonna die’
Eh... the threadwinds are definitely pointing in her direction. Things might change, but things NEED to change for her to not die at this point, IMO.
by Seanzie
Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:50 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:05 am
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:43 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:25 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:12 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:51 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
I thought Lucy was bad early, I *knew* she was bad when she got pissy that Kate was dead posting. It was almost like, “Shut up, you, I killed you!”. I think she was telling the truth that she was trying to wedge Kate/Dennis. That’s a big chunk of why I suspected her before I backed off.

I think Neon is town. No baddie would have gone that balls to the walls to protect a teamie, imo. But she made it sound like aggro defense is more the norm now, so outside of my experience.
I have consistently thought neon was town, that’s my gut read. I’m just wondering if someone like rondo has a better read.

Where are you at on Roxy and Rondo? (I’m thinking here of rondo as bea and reevaluating reads on friends.)
I’m going to reread them tomorrow as well as splints and you. Obvs with the role claim my town read on you stands, but I want to see interactions too, so I’ll pull in Mata too.
Ignoring lucy TMI'ing me town by asking how I found her you can just look at my entrance to the game and then almost instant turboing on Lucy to force her to do things to clear me
My perception is lucy would totally use a wolfclaim to townclear a teammate, or to wifom others into thinking she’s townclearing a teammate, so I call this NAI atm
Sure and I would even go for a play like that as well, but would I do that as well as be the main reason she goes over? People will be asking me why I am not dead in 2 days. In fact now that you have pointed this out I expect to make it to lylo now unless I die today
I don't really think you were the main reason she went over. It was the likeliest conclusion for most of the day and you spent time exploring other options for most of the day (nothing wrong with that, you just slotted in, but saying you were the main reason when 3-5 people came in D5 with Lucy as their top scumread does not reflect the truth). Lucy "TMI"ing you like that was weird. Why would she do that as wolf, and why did she single you out when others caught her earlier, with actual cases on her?

I agree, it should be treated as NAI/anti-spew and not read into. WIthout that in your favor, you are in the PoE. Not first in line, but in the PoE.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:59 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:58 pm I just really quickly ran through Lucy ISO

I don't think Seanzie is wolf, and like half of it was about me and I know I'm civ because role card so my list for kills is somewhere like:

Falcon->Neon->Splints->Roxy
Why don't you think I'm wolf?
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:59 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:55 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:25 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:21 pm Uhhh, so Golden, about your whole 'Seanzie is doc' thing...
Well Scotty was the only one to push back even minimally.

That said, I personally think Sean was town, but I think we all need to reevaluate our reads.

I’m gonna go back and read, because after Lucy’s elim, I’m not sure who I think The third could be.
Really? I said I would nuke Golden if it wasnt for seanzie, he wasnt the only one but that is besides the point he was kinda saying he would vote golden as a softing of not being doc but I am not sure if that is wolf seanzie or not. For me today its Neon or Seanzie. Golden is basically 100% cop because no one can CC legally and even if they did then wolf would be dead within 2 days so not an option for them. Golden is now IC for me (I mean I said that yesterday but that was mostly a confidence over read)
What are your reads on Falcon and Fingersplints?
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:48 pm Seanzie where are you at on Dennis?
If their D1/D2 came from a first time wolf, they've got some major potential.

I don't remember much of them since then, partially because I haven't read everything, but that alone seems enough for me to not care about them.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:55 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:40 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
I mean... I said Neon was in her wolfrange first.

Neon/Fingersplints with Rondo for backup should win the game I think.
Fingersplints would have had to be hard bussing the whole game. Not impossible, but I don’t see it. I’d have neon and rondo both before splints in my mind.
I would not call it "hard bussing". Fingersplints said almost nothing about Mata and just voted. Fingersplints did have some interactions w/Lucy on like D2, but then don't say anything until you press her about Lucy yesterday. Granted, it does seem like she committed to Lucy quick and early yesterday when you asked her about it, so I will think about it, but I don't think Fingersplints would have had to do some crazy bus -just some early distancing that they felt they had to propagate when pressed.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:40 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:37 pm Ok, I don’t think Seanzie is bad.

Key thoughts:

Lucy towncleared dennis before she went out. I tend to lean wifom on that post, Dennis is town and Lucy wanted us to tinfoil him on the other side.

Rondo has consistently said neon is in wolfrange and that’s probably my starting point for another look today.
I mean... I said Neon was in her wolfrange first.

Neon/Fingersplints with Rondo for backup should win the game I think.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:28 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm I mean I was pretty convinced you greenpeeked me, but okay.
You could have said ‘that theory is wrong’. You had many opportunities to. You chose not to.
Saying that I'd kill you effectively implies that your theory was wrong without toeing the line of breaking no-claim.
Implying is consistent with wolfpocketing, though. I’m not saying town wouldn’t do it. Especially if you’re vanilla trying to pull a nk.
I think it went well beyond inplying. You just were in confbias mode, seeing all random signs that support your theory while ignoring anything that refuted it.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:29 pm Wait what am I doing

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
I don't think it's falcon.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:29 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:28 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:27 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:25 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:21 pm Uhhh, so Golden, about your whole 'Seanzie is doc' thing...
Well Scotty was the only one to push back even minimally.

That said, I personally think Sean was town, but I think we all need to reevaluate our reads.

I’m gonna go back and read, because after Lucy’s elim, I’m not sure who I think The third could be.
I mean tbf I did kind of make it clear I was not agreeing with what Golden was saying.
That’s not unfair.

I’m not gonna tunnel you. You’re just a starting point. Who ya got?
I'm just going to go back to playing like I've been greenpeeked.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:28 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm I mean I was pretty convinced you greenpeeked me, but okay.
You could have said ‘that theory is wrong’. You had many opportunities to. You chose not to.
Saying that I'd kill you effectively implies that your theory was wrong without toeing the line of breaking no-claim.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:25 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:21 pm Uhhh, so Golden, about your whole 'Seanzie is doc' thing...
Well Scotty was the only one to push back even minimally.

That said, I personally think Sean was town, but I think we all need to reevaluate our reads.

I’m gonna go back and read, because after Lucy’s elim, I’m not sure who I think The third could be.
I mean tbf I did kind of make it clear I was not agreeing with what Golden was saying.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

I mean I was pretty convinced you greenpeeked me, but okay.
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:24 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

Golden wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:23 pm Thank you scotty.

I see no evidence Seanzie wanted to refute my theory

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Uhh... what?
by Seanzie
Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:23 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]

[VOTE: fingersplints] aubergine
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:58 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

lucy wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:57 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:55 pmi'l leave in 15m
round over in 3
that makes no sense, the fuckin auto syndicate clock is 4h ahead LMAO
the TS clock is not auto. you must change it yourself.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

lucy wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:55 pmI am wolf lol
damn, good legacy.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:55 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

lucy wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:53 pmhmm
legacy plz
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:54 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:53 pm
Dennis wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 pm
Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:42 pm I disagree, I am making sure Lucy goes over today and I am not voting her
But you're not the one saying you are committed to doing what SVS wants, which again is super fuckin weird to say.
No, it’s not. Rondo had it exactly right.

I should be allowed to vote my own gut when the result is in no doubt.
no, see, the weird thing is. why would you say 'when the result is in no doubt.'? Its always in doubt, this is Mafia? I feel like you're trying to point out you dont have TMI which is a weird way of saying you have TMI. You know? BUT again, Seanzie shield and you have been here all game so its all potato to me
What do you mean seanzie shield?
You protect someone with your shield
I don't think I'm doing that.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:51 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:50 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:46 pm Except I dont think its wolf weird... yet

Just idiosyncratic to Golden. Maybe I will look into later if Seanzie tells me I can murder Golden
I have said that you can numerous times.
THEN WHY DONT YOU JOIN ME!?
Spoiler: show
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Spoiler: show
I swear to god Seanzie if you are town this game you are making it pretty funny
oops, I forgot to vote Golden. Oh well.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:46 pm Except I dont think its wolf weird... yet

Just idiosyncratic to Golden. Maybe I will look into later if Seanzie tells me I can murder Golden
I have said that you can numerous times.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:18 pm [VOTE: Falcon ] aubergine

Seanzie, how about a Golden flash wagon?
Sure, you go first, I'll move in an hour or so.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:14 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

46 minutes!!!!
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Dennis wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:55 pm
Neon wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:42 pm
Neon wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:22 pm How to take a sure win and turn it into a loss

A playbook.

Step 1. Preflip a player a as wolf

Step 2. Solve only in worlds where player a is wolf

Step 3. Don't be paranoid of why there's been little to no push back in hours.

Step 4. Spend hours fucking around while waiting for EoD because the wagon isn't changing anyways because nobody cares.

Step 5. Ignore the fact that player A is level 0 and everything fits together way to cleanly.

Step 6. Player A flips town. Nobody reevaluates

Step 7. Accuse player C of tmi for being the only one to TR player A

Step 8. Kill player C.
Also noting I do not like the attack on town WIM here
How the FUCK is this an attack on town WiM lol
The part where you attack wim

Then the part where you step by step attack wim
What is WiM?
wim - "want it more" - a measure of how invested a person is or how hard they're willing to work.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:48 pm I’d like to see more legacy rainbows tbh
LEGACY

I halp!
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:48 pm [VOTE: Rondo ] aubergine
Self voting is against the rules. Please move.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:47 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:35 pm I say we flashwagon Dennis.
[VOTE: Dennis ] aubergine
Scotty wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:37 pm lol

no
This is interesting, considering he is counterwagon at the time
Oops, I forgot to vote with you.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:47 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:42 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:35 pm I say we flashwagon Dennis.
Flashwagons in a world with two living cops who could have up to four different green peeks between them isn’t great.

There’s a reason I keep pushing consensus this game… we should be able to weed out those who have been peeked and avoid elimming them by taking into account a broad range of perspectives.
Yeah, but... FLASHWAGON!
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

I say we flashwagon Dennis.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:20 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
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Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Golden wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:20 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:16 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:15 pm I don’t want to presuppose that both falcon and Lucy are bad, and Neon is right in that the wolves aren’t giving a lot of options to win if lucy is bad. It really only makes sense if falcon is just playing in a hole and he’s just hoping town will cannibalize themselves looking at deep wolves or there really is a deepwolf that is sitting pretty. We’ll get there when we get there
I don't think it's Falcon.
I’m trying to parse out the world where both mafia and doc target Falcon on night three and… it seems so unlikely but that’s what it feels like Sean is angling for.
My read on Falcon is a purely social read.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Scotty wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:15 pm I don’t want to presuppose that both falcon and Lucy are bad, and Neon is right in that the wolves aren’t giving a lot of options to win if lucy is bad. It really only makes sense if falcon is just playing in a hole and he’s just hoping town will cannibalize themselves looking at deep wolves or there really is a deepwolf that is sitting pretty. We’ll get there when we get there
I don't think it's Falcon.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:09 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:06 pm Game needs a hammer
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by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:35 am
Neon wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:50 am
S~V~S wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:07 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:45 am 11 people, majority at 4, 2 deaths today assuming doc fails is 9 minus 2 votes is 7 so we have 1 misyeet after today 2 total before we are in faux lylo if we don't hit vote deleter. So we gotta make these count or doc has to carry us even further on their back
Even with one vote deleted, this is what I have been saying. It's why I am trying so hard here to get people on the Lucy wagon. We can't afford miselims anymore as long as that exists in the game. And she is the only person the majority of us are not civ reading.

If she's not bad, you guys eliminate me next.

Also, I have limited time today, and I want to spend it in my very singleminded way lol. Your "what if" exercises looked interesting but I'd probably have to read up more than I have time for today, I'll hit them up tomorrow (although if Lucy IS bad, and IS lynched, I don't expect to see tomorrow ha ha).
Have you thought why I'm the only one defending lily in a game where there's 2 woofs left?

If lily is woof there should be more thread resistance. There has not been a single period of time where another wagon had more than 3 votes and that wagon was me Golden and Dennis.

That's 3 pretty universally town cored players. There's no resistance from lily there's no resistance from anyone but me. Why? Especially in this thread state.

There's 2 options. Last wolf is deep as fuck or lily is town.

Alternatively the woofs gave up.
I mean, Falcon was at like 4 or 5 votes for a while, and they are not in the collective towncore.
I am almost positive Falcon has never been beyond 3
I know for a fact that I once put it at 4/3 falcon/lucy at least once. I thought he got up to 5, but I'm not sure about that. Definitely was at 4.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:38 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

S~V~S wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:18 am What does "turboed" mean?
pile-on votes super quick at the beginning of a dayphase. Occasionally actually happens in hammer games, even though it is rare. Used colloquially to mean vote without major considerations of alternatives.
by Seanzie
Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:35 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]
Replies: 4739
Views: 103116

Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 5]

Neon wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:50 am
S~V~S wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:07 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:45 am 11 people, majority at 4, 2 deaths today assuming doc fails is 9 minus 2 votes is 7 so we have 1 misyeet after today 2 total before we are in faux lylo if we don't hit vote deleter. So we gotta make these count or doc has to carry us even further on their back
Even with one vote deleted, this is what I have been saying. It's why I am trying so hard here to get people on the Lucy wagon. We can't afford miselims anymore as long as that exists in the game. And she is the only person the majority of us are not civ reading.

If she's not bad, you guys eliminate me next.

Also, I have limited time today, and I want to spend it in my very singleminded way lol. Your "what if" exercises looked interesting but I'd probably have to read up more than I have time for today, I'll hit them up tomorrow (although if Lucy IS bad, and IS lynched, I don't expect to see tomorrow ha ha).
Have you thought why I'm the only one defending lily in a game where there's 2 woofs left?

If lily is woof there should be more thread resistance. There has not been a single period of time where another wagon had more than 3 votes and that wagon was me Golden and Dennis.

That's 3 pretty universally town cored players. There's no resistance from lily there's no resistance from anyone but me. Why? Especially in this thread state.

There's 2 options. Last wolf is deep as fuck or lily is town.

Alternatively the woofs gave up.
I mean, Falcon was at like 4 or 5 votes for a while, and they are not in the collective towncore.

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