The Syndicate

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:00 pm This wagon being this strong and never changing is making me very very anxious

Agreed, but it is easy for wolves to fake DADV, so I try to ignore these sorts of nerves.

Well this has been an exciting day.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:42 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:48 pm I saw someone ask about breath status; I still have my original. No one gave me one, and I haven't given mine away. Imma 1.
This is what I said; I never said I had none.

Why you no give breaths?

I'mma go ahead and proclaim Sig/Gira a difference check.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:51 am It died like my hopes and dreams

Sad. Did Srceenplay do anything to deserve this, or is Sig just more sus?

What happened to the Srceenplay wagon?

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:02 pm okay fine i rescind my fos

Good.

I am going to bed now. Sleep well, friend.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:49 pm I don't care. Re-eval plz.
what am i supposed to re-eval lol

Me.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:37 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:50 pm i am voting sig because nothing he's said has convinced me he is town

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

doom is probably the 3p

slightly worried about creature
Creature is 3p.
wouldn't have reached the second heightening n1 i don't think, although i guess he could fake that

Reasonable point. Creature is not town, and looks more like 3p than mafia, but this likely just says creature is mafia if they aren't 3p.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:38 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:56 pm town:
lucy
neon

lean town:
svs

probly 3p:
doom

poe:
creature
seanzie
srceen
sig

i think seanize and srceen aren't scum/scum based on yesterday. if sig is scum creature is probably fine, if he isn't i would put more scrutiny on creature. maybe it's dumb but the fact scotty died saying creature looked bad does weigh on me

(we also probably can't kill all of them given the poison)
I'm also just town. Re-eval plz.
i'm not pushing to elim you lol

I don't care. Re-eval plz.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:19 pm oh right i was worried about seanzie because of some of his day 1 posts around falcon

i think him giving his breath away is a ~moderately good look at least

i didn't research to see whether he scumsides hard as scum or not

I do (or at least can, and probably do more often than not).

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:56 pm town:
lucy
neon

lean town:
svs

probly 3p:
doom

poe:
creature
seanzie
srceen
sig

i think seanize and srceen aren't scum/scum based on yesterday. if sig is scum creature is probably fine, if he isn't i would put more scrutiny on creature. maybe it's dumb but the fact scotty died saying creature looked bad does weigh on me

(we also probably can't kill all of them given the poison)

I'm also just town. Re-eval plz.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:50 pm i am voting sig because nothing he's said has convinced me he is town

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

doom is probably the 3p

slightly worried about creature

Creature is 3p.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:32 am no, i mean srceen gave his breath away - sig was the one who hasn't

Oh tnx, this makes more sense.

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:48 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:45 am
srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:50 am so, lucy sig omega
You should address Gira's question about why you didn't give your breath away.
he did lol

I cant find it. Wuote plz.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:50 am so, lucy sig omega

You should address Gira's question about why you didn't give your breath away.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:38 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:39 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine
Why?

Same reason as yesterday. I don't remember the reason, but I remember the feeling, and I remember wishing that I had kept on you after seeing the flip yesterday, so today since I don't have time to adequately play, I'm likely just going to plant on you and let others figure it out.

Sorry, I know this is not ideal for you, but it's what I got.

I have a friend coming into town that I am picking up in 2 minutes. I likely won't be very available for a while unfortunately. I'll try to do my best to keep up, but y'all should elim Neon IMO.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:27 pm Alright I am fine with the sig lynch?

You're 3p, so you're fine with whatever elim.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

hm hm hm hm hmmmmm....

hmm...

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:19 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:15 pm [VOTE: Srceenplay] aubergine
seen that coming.
Do you want to explain?

I think my thoughts on you have been clear. Besides, I love a good tie. Sad it went away so fast.

[VOTE: Srceenplay] aubergine

Ftr I'm here, wagons look fun.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:33 pm I started to read your iso but dont have time. I have errands I need to run around and do. One quick thing I saw.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:46 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:20 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:31 amNeon/Nutella?
Nutella has not made an impression on me either way, she’s been mostly NAI. I was leaning town on Neon.

What are you seeing that I’m not?
Wolves.
Early game already had a narraitive you wanted to push.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:34 am I vote

Sig
Screenplay
Falcon

for people to give breaths to.
The big mafia boss is someone you thought we should give breaths to.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:36 pm Also sean and scott back and forth D1 made mee think SvT and I thought scot was the scum. Evidently I was wrong. Today first thing going after neon just felt like noise and not substance that they cared about.
Sean keeps thowing doubt arouund and that reminds of something that scum wants to do.

@Gira just to be sure, these two posts, you believe Srceenplay believes this push, and isn't just producing SOMETHING because they are being pressed?

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:32 pm bad posting doesn't equate to scum though

i get the sense he really believes the takse he's throwing out on the last page

I impolitely disagree. I do not get that sense.

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:24 pm meh that seanize post isn't great but this game differs in approach to his scumgame still i think

i probably wanna do a little more research, my impression based on how others have talked about him is he tends to be aggressive as town which i think is reflected in his play here

i think he's ~probably fine but i wouldn't full clear him

Srceen's posting is bad, I don't see what you see in it. You can say that my post isn't great if you want, but you're missing Srceen here.

Kinda okay with any of the wagons right meow though.

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:09 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

not really sure srceen is it based on recent posts

I don't feel good about Srceen's push on me. Felt like they decided on the conclusion, then only after being pushed about it, went and found some level 0 things to back it up.

*twiddles thumbs waiting for an explanation*

@srceenplay

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:38 pm still want to vote sean as well.

Why? You've said you want to vote for me, but given zero explanation. Explain.

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

I'm okay with the screenplay wagon, but two wagons are better than one.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:45 pm or maybe I'm just lolcatting and gifposting, definitely not killing time while watching Seanzie flail, idk

Lolcatting sounds about right.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:39 pm Hey Sean

What would you do if you had 500 breaths?

I'd breathe deep. Then probably protect someone.

Wow, two people are voting me?

*pokes thread with a stick*

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:33 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:51 pm Why is Neon being wagoned btw?
Didn’t you just bring up the fact that Seanzie is making a stink? Or are you just talking about D1 Seanzie?
I meant about D1 Seanzie. I am confused by the existence of the Neon wagon today.

I do not believe you are town!Creature.

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:45 pm of course sometimes a teammate simply isn't around to bus, or they can't fake a believable progression, or are hardline anti-bussing, but i don't know that really applies to any of the non falcon voters from day 1. at a minimum i'm not giving a ton of credit to folks solely for voting falcon

Pyxxy's Scotty vote, promise to re-read, and then disappearance IMO is easily compatible with "can't fake a believable progression".

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:06 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:59 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:49 pm Alright I'll trust you because my whole thesis about Seanzie was that he could WIM up as wolf but I wasn't paying attention to the differences.
You suspect me solely on the basis that I COULD have WIM as a wolf? Not because of anything I've done?
You were also off falcon45ca EOD and that made me skeptical about you.

I would never vote Falcon on D1 regardless of the gamestate.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:49 pm Alright I'll trust you because my whole thesis about Seanzie was that he could WIM up as wolf but I wasn't paying attention to the differences.

You suspect me solely on the basis that I COULD have WIM as a wolf? Not because of anything I've done?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:49 am I am now concerned about Seanzie. I remember at least one of his posts looked bad in light of falcon's flip. Also I am concerned his tryharding here might be wolf indicative.

No.

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:11 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:38 pm Note: not from this game, another game!
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:55 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:33 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:45 am

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?
Yes.
Why? Explain plz.
It's a personal thing for me. I play better making snap decisions. It's why I snap vote in lylo and win a lot.

I dunno. Also it's a strategy to try to get PRs in towns hands now that the lizard is gone. I'd rather have first pick knowing I'm town.
hmmm...

This is it.

Neon is suspectable to perspective slips. She perspective slipped in the example given. Someone tell me where Neon persepctive-slipped this game.
okay i'm going to be honest with you here

the example you quoted is not a perspective slip

you caught her on a non-tell and now think you have an infallible read. it's like you split on 10s in blackjack and won and now think that's a winning play - but it isn't, you just got lucky.

so i'm not really strongly about to lend a lot of credence to whatever read you have this game

that being said, i strongly believe you believe this and your whole song and dance where you're so excited you believe you caught something but don't want to spell it out to people is very town, so. i do not support the people voting you at all

Also this is why I don't always explain things. Like yeah, I could be wrong, but also just because others don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:11 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:38 pm Note: not from this game, another game!
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:55 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:33 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:45 am

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?
Yes.
Why? Explain plz.
It's a personal thing for me. I play better making snap decisions. It's why I snap vote in lylo and win a lot.

I dunno. Also it's a strategy to try to get PRs in towns hands now that the lizard is gone. I'd rather have first pick knowing I'm town.
hmmm...

This is it.

Neon is suspectable to perspective slips. She perspective slipped in the example given. Someone tell me where Neon persepctive-slipped this game.
okay i'm going to be honest with you here

the example you quoted is not a perspective slip

you caught her on a non-tell and now think you have an infallible read. it's like you split on 10s in blackjack and won and now think that's a winning play - but it isn't, you just got lucky.

so i'm not really strongly about to lend a lot of credence to whatever read you have this game

that being said, i strongly believe you believe this and your whole song and dance where you're so excited you believe you caught something but don't want to spell it out to people is very town, so. i do not support the people voting you at all

We'll see when Neon is flipped.

It's kind of like when someone who is being wagoned says

"when I flip town, BLAH"

or

"If I flip town, BLAH"

If they said the second thing, they are like twice or three times as likely to be town than if they said the first thing.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:38 pm Note: not from this game, another game!
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:55 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:33 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:45 am

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?
Yes.
Why? Explain plz.
It's a personal thing for me. I play better making snap decisions. It's why I snap vote in lylo and win a lot.

I dunno. Also it's a strategy to try to get PRs in towns hands now that the lizard is gone. I'd rather have first pick knowing I'm town.
hmmm...

This is it.

Neon is suspectable to perspective slips. She perspective slipped in the example given. Someone tell me where Neon persepctive-slipped this game.
You’ve already brought attention to this post:
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:46 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:43 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:41 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:41 pm

I'm clearly town, but sure.
Ah yes clearly... so stupendously.

Except... also... no.
Take your time, I'll wait.
Mmmm you'll be waiting a long time
Well, the clock is ticking. I don't currently feel like you suspect me. If you're claiming to be this certain that you think you won't re-eval, then it should be easy for me to get a read on you. Come at me. Do it hard, do it fast. Make me BELIEVE that you suspect me. Because right now? I don't.
I rarely lie about who I suspect
but it’s above my head

The above post presupposes Neon must be town. Neon as town doesn't do that, she considers the fact that people could read her as either alignment and writes accordingly. Not consciously, but she does. Neon as wolf does do this - Neon as wolf does NOT consider worlds where Neon is wolf while writing, and so does things like this.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:10 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:38 pm Note: not from this game, another game!
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:55 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:33 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:45 am

Why did you vote with more than half of D2 left? Regardless of your vote, do you think this was a good strategic choice?
Yes.
Why? Explain plz.
It's a personal thing for me. I play better making snap decisions. It's why I snap vote in lylo and win a lot.

I dunno. Also it's a strategy to try to get PRs in towns hands now that the lizard is gone. I'd rather have first pick knowing I'm town.
hmmm...

This is it.

Neon is suspectable to perspective slips. She perspective slipped in the example given. Someone tell me where Neon persepctive-slipped this game.

Ahh meaningless buzz words that's execute more townies than scum. Good, good yes.

^ this is a caught wolf ^

Elim Neon plz.

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