The Syndicate

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Remember that gamestate read I made that Alison would randomly come under fire in F5? Lololol

Maybe there really is something to these gamestate read

Scotty walked into MyLo as the de facto last wolf and immediately shot both living wolves

I showed up at the 11th hour and immediately knowingly got myself killed by a town PR for no reason before I could successfully push any of my reads lmao
I was here

Well that's my first Syndicate win, only took me five.

The animalization was fucking hilarious and I was barely watching.

Michelle was the only fake flip btw

Well it seems like my play was pretty alpha male this game wasn't it?

Or at least, you know.

Up until I targeted the claimed PGO.

The LC case is far from bulletproof, but I'm more than comfortable saying that if it's someone in the soup, it's him.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:43 am So TripleHaven is in a funny spot.

He has clearly gone belly up and is outed mafia.

However he is so resigned he hasn't bothered to get to 10 posts. He is on one post.

Which means if he survives today he is a vanilla wolf.

Which is why I was trying to find a 2nd wolf earlier. I intended to do this closer to EOD. But I kinda wanna open discussion here and now because like worst case scenario is TH comes back and makes some posts oh well big deal right.

Am I crazy or is this a good opportunity?

TH is there for us tomorrow anyway right?

Do we get any true information via his flip?

We could go a long way to winning if we chop the a non TH wolf and leave a vanilla TH behind.

Do we have anything to lose by chopping someone else in the POE here first?

Compelling
But I in particular would vastly prefer a guaranteed wolf today

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:43 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:02 pm @c4e5g3d5 @Alison @Lime Coke @Scotty you all still have your original cards yes?
I don't know what this means
in the discord you will have a card at the top of the chan you have with guillo... it should be creatures card

It is

Caught up and saw that there are some exceedingly specific and direct reasons the soup was real so uh
Alright

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:02 pm @c4e5g3d5 @Alison @Lime Coke @Scotty you all still have your original cards yes?

I don't know what this means

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:01 pm c4 can you give me a peek at who among the non-clears is most sus in your eyes when you get a moment?

listo by default ig?
Nook's barely here but pretty on point when he's here and apparently meta spew pelt smth
Scotty's super towny

listo's been showing conviction and it seems internally consistent and believable and all but still looks like it's in the range of a wolf that said "lemme pick one random thing to scream about"

Pretty much think Alison's plan should do it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:52 pm Your big solve is LC.

LC was god read town by Honey. Soup targeted. And allowed himself to get vanillaised last night.

Where is the wolf there? I would love to see it cuz I scumread him on day 1 and I enjoy being proven right. But the facts don't align.

Godread idgaf
Soup idgaf
Vanillaised, didn't realize, honestly compelling, but smth smth lazy regardless of alignment
Let's just hope it's some dumb shit like listo if you're set here but supposedly he's spewed

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:50 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:47 pm C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.
Pls
Pls what? Do you have a green check on Scotty?

There are things called reads

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:47 pm C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.

Pls

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:44 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:38 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm Nah it is a way better idea than that.

In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd
I ask again if the soup kill was a charade then where is the real one? It is just real.

Can it... not... come later on?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:38 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm Nah it is a way better idea than that.

In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.

Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:38 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm Nah it is a way better idea than that.

In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.

Onto Scotty? No

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm Nah it is a way better idea than that.

In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.

Wait but that's dumb

Reading through N4 got me off my Mac paranoia
See, mafia is an easy game, the past just doesn't exist.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:56 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:14 am TH/Creature/Osi is where I am right now for scum.

Maybe Scotty replaces one of them.

GG could theoretically be in there but it'd have to be on a team without Creature. I honestly don't see her as scum rn.
I mean 2/3 wolves in his last post is pretty mindfucky. There’s no way creature is also wolf, right? I really want to eliminate Creature/c4 from the cutting board just based on this post alone

I recently played a game where I was miscleared for a post almost exactly like this
But also yeah rule of three mhm yeah no way he names his whole team there no way yeah mhm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:02 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:22 am Gameplan looks like

Sleepwalk through TH
Continue to bury LC
Get dunked by Mac but people actually read my legacy for once
Congratulations to the Mafia team (EnderWiggin, listo95, MartinGG99, Michelle, NANOOKTHECONQUEROR)
Why is TH not on the scum team list?

Also, I think that the Michelle flip is accurate but this is more due to personal level reads on how Osie and Ender (the later in particular) want to interact with teammate Michelle than anything

I doubt that’s particularly relevant but yeah

Was making shit up to sound funny lol

I used his MU username god damnit

Gameplan looks like

Sleepwalk through TH
Continue to bury LC
Get dunked by Mac but people actually read my legacy for once
Congratulations to the Mafia team (EnderWiggin, listo95, MartinGG99, Michelle, NANOOKTHECONQUEROR)

Multitabling too
It's probably a terrible idea for me to multitable right before a certain thing happens, but AoPS games are like, the lightest of light games
You can squeeze those in anywhere you want

Someone sent me some wack ass picture that I seriously hope isn't relevant enough to this game to seeing results because making a read into what it means and why I of all people got it sounds like a huge PITA and might get someone souped in some dumb way

I'm mostly checking out too but for unique reasons
Appreciate me

[VOTE: TripleHaven] aubergine

Who sent me that picture

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:30 pm Mafia will prolly kill like me or HK tonight- flea thinks he’s drawing the NK. Someone they’re less sure of for the soup kill

We’re in an excellent spot.

Wait they can't soup a VT?

Also, Mac, just wanna know, if the soup didn't happen would you think LC was a wolf?

Okay so I don't even know how a "fake soup" would work but

Mac, if the wolves have an actual guess at your role, and they want to do a fake soup, what's stopping them from putting that in there? Why can't they show their cards and still soup you later? It's not like your role will change.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:27 pm Wasn't Scotty in your POE? You voted a series of names after Martin to indicate who you suspected: c4, listo, Scotty, TH. What happened to your Scotty/listo suspicions?

What happened is he still thinks I conceded

Well anyway

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:39 pm This seems like the kinda gamestate where

The PoE gets locked in
The game doesn't end
People start tinfoiling like mad
They think "reeval everything" but to them "everything" just means the things they were least likely to reeval because bias is bipolar
Alison comes under fire in F5 for some dumbass reason
Meanwhile LC's been sitting there this whole time

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:48 pm I get Alison's point about LC's mansnicks vote, but that could just be LC literally just following up on his scumread there because he already said it itt and hadn't voted there yet lol

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:52 pm I'm just not seeing the investment that I usually do

I'm willing to believe wanting to change things accounts for some amount of it, but... that much?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:55 pm The whole towncore's going "ez answer is ez plug em' all"
LC included
Mac excluded because lmfao
But I feel like all of them except LC have a sense of "yeah we just won this thing" that he's missing

Alison's double checking her work, reaching a conclusion, and then actually acting like she reached a conclusion and planning the next two days accordingly
Dolby's dicking around playing mind games with that one wolf PR that thought it was useful for some reason and having the time of his life
hk's dropping the "yeah probably just town" at last on the one ??? name he had left in his PoE
Scotty's lamentations over whether he can help town in the end are blindingly towny and also somewhat reflective of thinking this thing's almost done and there's not much more for him to do

LC pops in to defend himself and give the top wagon a nudge
It's not terrible or anything but it's not clear what direction he actually thinks the game is headed in our what his worldview is
And it also seems like there's still a game to win for him

If push comes to shove and I have to find a wolf in here, everyone here but LC is showing either town complacency or otherwise strong town sentiment, and I'd punt LC in a heartbeat

If LC is in fact town because soup smth smth, let's pray it's just listo and he picked Nook as an arbitrary place to show passion
If it's not listo then y'all will be in the world of lolmech, and the correct procedure for what to do in the world of lolmech is pretty well-known
Gl folks

There aren't wolves posting right now if that's controversial
Outside of me if you're stubborn

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:41 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:39 am So basically I think it's LC TH
No idea wtf is going on with the soup but it sounds like lolmech
I'm not really feeling listo rn
Apparently people who actually read Nook's posts think he's town
And I had a while bunch of stuff written about the event where the PoE is wrong and who that would point to if anyone read it
you already conceded you can't unconcede just because flea is giving you a glimmer of hope

Only if I concede in the first place
That was a fairly obvious joke
You think I'd be in a bad enough position to concede when I'm still getting trs

So basically I think it's LC TH
No idea wtf is going on with the soup but it sounds like lolmech
I'm not really feeling listo rn
Apparently people who actually read Nook's posts think he's town
And I had a while bunch of stuff written about the event where the PoE is wrong and who that would point to if anyone read it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.
Good luck pal but you randed into a wolf slot.
No I subbed into a wolf slot
But IMO my entrance was very towny and attractive
it was you did your best but like there are 4 living mod confirmed town from the soup and then osie spewed Scotty and nanook is just town.

Is this where I say muck fech just vote wolfy people

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.
Good luck pal but you randed into a wolf slot.

No I subbed into a wolf slot
But IMO my entrance was very towny and attractive

Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.

Someone shoot TH obvs

Cool so w/w

listo making my head spin

[VOTE: TripleHaven] aubergine

Oddly more confident that TH is a wolf than Martin

Freezing after doing a dumb thing and getting railed by everyone for it isn't too odd, if a bit out of character for Martin
Freezing after heavily implying you have good mech for the top wagon and putting on bravado to chainsaw is just not it

But we'll probably kill her regardless tomorrow

Oh shit deadline's like now now

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:42 pm Triple dipping in ISOs, the thread from the start and the thread from the end
Prolly gonna give up on one of these
All three realistically

I am now realizing that I said I would ISO Nook today.

I am now realizing it again.

The whole towncore's going "ez answer is ez plug em' all"
LC included
Mac excluded because lmfao
But I feel like all of them except LC have a sense of "yeah we just won this thing" that he's missing

Alison's double checking her work, reaching a conclusion, and then actually acting like she reached a conclusion and planning the next two days accordingly
Dolby's dicking around playing mind games with that one wolf PR that thought it was useful for some reason and having the time of his life
hk's dropping the "yeah probably just town" at last on the one ??? name he had left in his PoE
Scotty's lamentations over whether he can help town in the end are blindingly towny and also somewhat reflective of thinking this thing's almost done and there's not much more for him to do

LC pops in to defend himself and give the top wagon a nudge
It's not terrible or anything but it's not clear what direction he actually thinks the game is headed in our what his worldview is
And it also seems like there's still a game to win for him

If push comes to shove and I have to find a wolf in here, everyone here but LC is showing either town complacency or otherwise strong town sentiment, and I'd punt LC in a heartbeat

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