The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:10 pm**

POE* I can't type today.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:52 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:10 pm Is this... PIE?

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:55 pm**

Tell me about Juliets, Speed.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:02 pm**

Look, I'm seeing myself at the bottom of a few lists, and I guess I deserve that, but I'm Civ. So blah. Here I hang, nice and low. Pluck me.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:06 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:55 pm Tell me about Juliets, Speed.

She's talking, tone-wise I can't pick out a difference from the other game I was playing with her (where Vampires killed her), and when I ISO her, she's stimulating conversation, sounds genuine, and is bringing up salient points.

That's about as good as you can do in a game with no flips.

linki: [mention]Long Con[/mention] It's MYLO after tonight, unless everyone's favorite town Vig gets trigger-happy (which he should IMO. Game's been narrowed down, and he ain't getting another night unless we lynch good)

So please, convince us of your towniness. Because in perpetual MYLO/LYLO (which we are getting into after tonight, barring Vig success), giving up looks more scummy than not.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:19 pm**

Giving up is not necessarily scum indicative but it ought to me.

Mafia can benefit from townie sympathy and thus fake giving up.

Townies actually giving up doesn't help the town.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:26 pm**

Long Con, forgive me if this has already been covered but prior to your post below you had made a case on and I believe voted for Epi. Why did you change your vote to Ambray?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:43 pm I'll go along with Ambray over MacDougall because I'm neutral on Am, and Civ-reading Mac.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:56 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:51 pm I'm sorry, but I cannot go back and read 21 pages at this time. Jay, how about you give me a bit of what has gone on so I can weigh in and actually prove myself a bit.
Glor claimed town so we know he's town.

Sloonei came out Slooneiing. I and a few others expressed belief he was good. Mac said he was bad. Speed then replaced Sloonei and while not doing amazing, hasn't pinged me at all. Epi has also expressed belief he is good.

Mac and Wilgy more or less got himself lynched and Mac almost did the same but was nightkilled for some reason.

I'd appreciate it if you would ISO Juliets/Timmer, LC, Rabbit and weigh in on them.

I'll try to do all of these asap. I'll go in order of what you listed. are we in 23 hour nights?

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:15 pm**

I hate doing ISOs, they wear me out. So I am doing the best I can.

Juliets -
-Just replaced in as well, I've notices and already has 23 posts within a little over 4 hours. That's pretty nuts!
-First real topic of discussion was Mac being night-killed. She says there was not a lot of suspicion on him, so maybe a redirect? Or, she says he thought Jack and chuck were bad. But I am not sure if I would put Jack or chuck as bad at this point. A set-up looks more likely.
-At one point, she questions long cons motives for voting chuck.
-Engages Glorf on a vote matter.
-doesn't say much about timmer except that he is a quiet baddie from her memory, but that he was hurt somehow and had to replace out. I believe that was who I replaced

-votes wilgy because there is n better option in her opinion but she contemplates moving her vote and acts worried
-helpful to me as I replace in

overall, I think juliets seems civ.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:40 pm**

I feel like this is difficult because we have no mafia kills yet. Almost like it's still Day 0

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:41 pm**

Day 1, rather

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:57 pm**

LC
-his sus of nutella seems to be reaching
-he demeanor this game is playful
-he doesn't seem too invested in the game, just doing enough to get by
-I don't like how he handles the suspicion that he and nutella are teammates. I know she turned out civ, but still.

Alright....I can see an LC vote in my future after reading through his posts. He just doesn't look civ to me

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:57 pm**

taking a break

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:58 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:51 pm I'm sorry, but I cannot go back and read 21 pages at this time. Jay, how about you give me a bit of what has gone on so I can weigh in and actually prove myself a bit.
Glor claimed town so we know he's town.

Sloonei came out Slooneiing. I and a few others expressed belief he was good. Mac said he was bad. Speed then replaced Sloonei and while not doing amazing, hasn't pinged me at all. Epi has also expressed belief he is good.

Mac and Wilgy more or less got himself lynched and Mac almost did the same but was nightkilled for some reason.

I'd appreciate it if you would ISO Juliets/Timmer, LC, Rabbit and weigh in on them.

Jack, I notice you have me listed as "juliets/Timmer". It should be "juliets/DF". Not sure if that was just a mistake or whether you are thinking I replaced timmer but I didn't want there to be any confusion.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:07 pm**

Hi rabbit. Is this a claim?

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:58 pmBilbo

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:08 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:51 pm I'm sorry, but I cannot go back and read 21 pages at this time. Jay, how about you give me a bit of what has gone on so I can weigh in and actually prove myself a bit.
Glor claimed town so we know he's town.

Sloonei came out Slooneiing. I and a few others expressed belief he was good. Mac said he was bad. Speed then replaced Sloonei and while not doing amazing, hasn't pinged me at all. Epi has also expressed belief he is good.

Mac and Wilgy more or less got himself lynched and Mac almost did the same but was nightkilled for some reason.

I'd appreciate it if you would ISO Juliets/Timmer, LC, Rabbit and weigh in on them.
Jack, I notice you have me listed as "juliets/Timmer". It should be "juliets/DF". Not sure if that was just a mistake or whether you are thinking I replaced timmer but I didn't want there to be any confusion.

That was a mistake.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:08 pm**

One way or the other.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pm**

No one was interested in my Epi case. I'd still lynch him.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:39 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pm No one was interested in my Epi case. I'd still lynch him.

link it please I am lazy

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:43 pm**

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 47#p403947

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:41 pm**

DAY 4 LYNCH

Who poisoned MacDougall?
Poll ended at Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:00:29 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

DrWilgy
2
20%
Voters: Epignosis, juliets

Elohcin
0
No votes
Voters: None

Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None

Glorfindel
0
No votes
Voters: None

insertnamehere
0
No votes
Voters: None

Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None

juliets
0
No votes
Voters: None

Long Con
1
10%
Voters: speedchuck

rabbit8
0
No votes
Voters: None

speedchuck
1
10%
Voters: Glorfindel

Marmot (Host/dead/np/faculty)
6
60%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Sloonei, Kylemii, Marmot, MacDougall
Total votes: 10

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:43 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pm No one was interested in my Epi case. I'd still lynch him.

Your Epi case was dumb. All you did was look at what I had done in previous games and compare it to this one. I do so many different things depending on what I believe should be required of me to win the game, and sometimes I do things to amuse myself. You can point to any behavior I've exhibited before and say "Epi isn't doing that here" and be correct. It's foolish.

I still don't suspect you. If you are a civilian, don't fuck this up.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:00 pm**

At the Sign of the Prancing Pony

The Black Riders arrived at the Prancing Pony, looking for the Hobbits. They ransacked the room that was rented to them, but found no sign of them.

No one has been nightkilled.

Day 5 has begun. You have 48 hours to lynch somebody.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:20 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pm No one was interested in my Epi case. I'd still lynch him.

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:49 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:00 pm
At the Sign of the Prancing Pony

The Black Riders arrived at the Prancing Pony, looking for the Hobbits. They ransacked the room that was rented to them, but found no sign of them.

No one has been nightkilled.

Day 5 has begun. You have 48 hours to lynch somebody.

Alrighty. Shit's getting dire.

Time to come clean.

I'm Mister Frodo. Before Night 4, I possessed The Ring. It made me invulnerable to NK's and lynches. Unfortunately, Sauron found me last night and took it. Luckily, the ring protected me from the kill his team directed at me.

Unfotunately, that means he can most likely do some quite nasty shit with it. There are nine players left. We have yet to kill a baddie, which is fairly shameful. Everybody's feeling a malaise. We need to wake the fuck up.

If we fail to lynch a baddie today, Day 6 is LYLO.

Let's get fucking going, why don't we?

Posted: **Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm**

Glorfindel can you provide some context for your vote? Is it because of LC's case or is there something more that you noticed?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:11 am**

Piss.

Also good job surviving, I guess. Bought us an extra day.

But piss. That can't be good, whatever it does.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:26 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm Glorfindel can you provide some context for your vote? Is it because of LC's case or is there something more that you noticed?

If Sauron has the One Ring, it’s game over so it hardly matters now does it?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:29 am**

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:26 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm Glorfindel can you provide some context for your vote? Is it because of LC's case or is there something more that you noticed?
If Sauron has the One Ring, it’s game over so it hardly matters now does it?

How is it game over if the game is still going on?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:33 am**

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:26 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm Glorfindel can you provide some context for your vote? Is it because of LC's case or is there something more that you noticed?
If Sauron has the One Ring, it’s game over so it hardly matters now does it?

Lore-wise, seems like it.

Game-wise, I don't think Marmot would create a game where a player only has to find the ring to win instantly. Which, by the way, since INH was invincible, had to happen eventually if Sauron didn't die. And Sauron might have other secrets anyway.

If the game was unwinnable, it wouldn't be still going.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:34 am**

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:26 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm Glorfindel can you provide some context for your vote? Is it because of LC's case or is there something more that you noticed?
If Sauron has the One Ring, it’s game over so it hardly matters now does it?

Theoretically, Sauron could have found me N1. It seems like crummy game design for it to be possible for the game to be decided that early, so we have to assume that, regardless of the source material, it's still possible for the civilians to win, provided we lynch the right person.

I don't really appreciate the fatalism, Glorf.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:36 am**

Yeah, Glorf's immediate reaction being to throw in the towel with an unexplained vote is the first thing he's done that has pinged me.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:38 am**

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:36 am Yeah, Glorf's immediate reaction being to throw in the towel with an unexplained vote is the first thing he's done that has pinged me.

Glorfindel doesn't lie though.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:46 am**

I'm unconvinced by LC's Epi case and am considering voting LC today.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:34 am**

It appears votes aren’t changeable this game? Well, that’s just typical...

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:35 am**

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:34 am It appears votes aren’t changeable this game? Well, that’s just typical...

They should be. Mine is currently changeable.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:12 am**

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:26 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm Glorfindel can you provide some context for your vote? Is it because of LC's case or is there something more that you noticed?
If Sauron has the One Ring, it’s game over so it hardly matters now does it?

Glorfindel, it does matter now I think. First you say "If" so we don't know if Sauron has the ring. Second, as others have pointed out, if he does it doesn't end the game cause we're still playing. If you see something definitive about Epi please tell us.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:14 am**

Oh gee I forgot we know who Sauron is. And I missed a whole bunch of posts before I posted.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:15 am**

Wait - I'm not awake - speed isn't Sauron. I am confusing myself.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:46 am I'm unconvinced by LC's Epi case and am considering voting LC today.

I am not convinced by LC's case either but I'm not sure if it's because I just can't read Epi at all or it's a poor case. I do think epic makes a good point that he is different in each game he plays - I find that to be true about him. And for whatever it's worth I have civ vibes about Epi.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:37 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:46 am I'm unconvinced by LC's Epi case and am considering voting LC today.

I'd be down with this after my ISO of him yesterday.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:07 am**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:37 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:46 am I'm unconvinced by LC's Epi case and am considering voting LC today.
I'd be down with this after my ISO of him yesterday.

Tell me about that.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:29 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:12 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:26 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm Glorfindel can you provide some context for your vote? Is it because of LC's case or is there something more that you noticed?
If Sauron has the One Ring, it’s game over so it hardly matters now does it?
Glorfindel, it does matter now I think. First you say "If" so we don't know if Sauron has the ring. Second, as others have pointed out, if he does it doesn't end the game cause we're still playing. If you see something definitive about Epi please tell us.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:14 am Oh gee I forgot we know who Sauron is. And I missed a whole bunch of posts before I posted.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:15 am Wait - I'm not awake - speed isn't Sauron. I am confusing myself.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:46 am I'm unconvinced by LC's Epi case and am considering voting LC today.
I am not convinced by LC's case either but I'm not sure if it's because I just can't read Epi at all or it's a poor case. I do think epic makes a good point that he is different in each game he plays - I find that to be true about him. And for whatever it's worth I have civ vibes about Epi.

I have never been more confused by a sequence of posts in my life. Do you think INH fakeclaimed?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:35 am**

Maybe INH fakeclaimed. Is the game at that point where a fakeclaim would ensure a baddie win? Feels like a baddie win is all but unavoidable anyway. And INH wasn't on the chopping block at all, was he?

INH, can you give us all the details you know on your role? Do you know who Gandalf is?

I know my case on Epi is weak, but his rebuttal is also super weak. "I don't have a meta". Right. I'll vote Epi, and it probably won't matter.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:36 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:07 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:37 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:46 am I'm unconvinced by LC's Epi case and am considering voting LC today.
I'd be down with this after my ISO of him yesterday.
Tell me about that.

I posted on it yesterday. I swear people see the name Elohcin and just skip over my posts.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:01 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:29 am
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:12 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:26 am
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm Glorfindel can you provide some context for your vote? Is it because of LC's case or is there something more that you noticed?
If Sauron has the One Ring, it’s game over so it hardly matters now does it?
Glorfindel, it does matter now I think. First you say "If" so we don't know if Sauron has the ring. Second, as others have pointed out, if he does it doesn't end the game cause we're still playing. If you see something definitive about Epi please tell us.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:14 am Oh gee I forgot we know who Sauron is. And I missed a whole bunch of posts before I posted.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:15 am Wait - I'm not awake - speed isn't Sauron. I am confusing myself.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:46 am I'm unconvinced by LC's Epi case and am considering voting LC today.
I am not convinced by LC's case either but I'm not sure if it's because I just can't read Epi at all or it's a poor case. I do think epic makes a good point that he is different in each game he plays - I find that to be true about him. And for whatever it's worth I have civ vibes about Epi.
I have never been more confused by a sequence of posts in my life. Do you think INH fakeclaimed?

No, I had just woken up and my head was all twisted around. I forgot someone had claimed, then I forgot it was INH and thought it was you, and I didn't even remember that Sauron was bad. I should never mafia early in the morning. At this point I don't have any reason to believe INH fake claimed, it doesn't make sense to me that he would have done that if he were bad. My posts just don't make any sense whatsoever

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:05 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:01 pm I didn't even remember that Sauron was bad.

Have you seen the movies?

GO WATCH THEM

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:13 pm**

Wait a minute.

If INH is Frodo

DFaraday
3
18%
Voters: rabbit8, timmer, Long Con

Long Con
3
18%
Voters: Sloonei, Ambray, Epignosis

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:04 pm
Fog on the Barrow-Downs

In the Barrow-Downs reside the Wights. They enjoy tying things up.

So do you apparently.

No one has been lynched.

Night 1 has begun. You have until 20:00 EST to submit your night actions.

What happened there?

My assumption after Night 1 was that either LC or DFaraday was Frodo and the Ring protected one of them from being lynched.

If INH is Frodo, then one of them had to have been saved some other way.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:59 pm
Frodo - Frodo is the Bearer of The Ring. (Secrets)
Gandalf - Gandalf may once (each) in the game, roleblock another player, protect another player, and nightkill another player. He may only perform one of these actions each night.
Sauron - Sauron may search each night for The Ring, roleblocking his target in the process. (Secrets)

INH was not involved in the Day 1 lynch.
Gandalf doesn't have secrets.

Sauron - Sauron may search each night for The Ring, roleblocking his target in the process. (Secrets)

But Sauron does.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:24 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:05 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:01 pm I didn't even remember that Sauron was bad.
Have you seen the movies?

GO WATCH THEM

I guess I should.

Epi your deduction about the lynch is very interesting. There is no reason for Sauron to save me so I see your point as another mark against LC unless someone can come up with a plausible alternate theory of what happened.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:44 pm**

Orrrrrr you guys could remember that Marmot likely invoked a No Lynch due to the Day 1 tie.

Which was discussed already. But nice try.

The Syndicate

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