Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Turnip Head]

QUICK @Kylemii get in my hoodie

Do you have any confidence in your reads yet?

Yeah man, as far as I'm concerned, lynching [mention]Kylemii[/mention] is a bad idea and lynching [mention]JackofHearts2005[/mention] is a very reasonably good idea.

[Turnip Head]

QUICK @Kylemii get in my hoodie

Do you have any confidence in your reads yet?

Yeah man, as far as I'm concerned, lynching @Kylemii is a bad idea and lynching @JackofHearts2005 is a very reasonably good idea.

[mention]dunya[/mention]
[mention]wolbre [/mention]
^^
tagged for opinions

[mention]Marmot[/mention] tagged for lolz

[Sloonei]

MP
Jack
dunya
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
Quin
novaselinenever
wolbre04
Marmot
Kylemii

Still a handful of people who I'd need to look at more closely for confident reads, but this is how I feel at the moment. Marmot is below wolbre because, while I ISO'd wolbre and had lots of questions, I am wary of falling into the trap of suspecting a new player simply because they are unfamiliar. But not wary enough to remove him altogether.

[Sloonei]

QUICK @Kylemii get in my hoodie

Do you have any confidence in your reads yet?

Yeah man, as far as I'm concerned, lynching @Kylemii is a bad idea and lynching @JackofHearts2005 is a very reasonably good idea.

I could not disagree more. Tell me why.

[Sloonei]

I mean why you feel that way, not why I disagree with you.

[Turnip Head]

I mean why you feel that way, not why I disagree with you.

[Sloonei]

My confidence about TH is waning a little as well. He's a skilled and experienced player. I wouldn't entirely put it past him to fart around like this all game as scum. I've not seen anything that necessarily makes me want to lynch him, but I'm not comfortable removing him from the POE pool either.

[Sloonei]

I mean why you feel that way, not why I disagree with you.

so you don't wanna go a soul searching train ride through india with me and owen wilson? or, you know, talk about your reads?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hahaha highest poster. I totally missed that.

[Turnip Head]

You know what Sloonei, it might look like I'm farting around because I'm posting pictures and using weird hunting techniques and just generally having fun, but I have a feeling that most of my posts are not being taken as seriously as they should be.

[Turnip Head]

so you don't wanna go a soul searching train ride through india with me and owen wilson? or, you know, talk about your reads?

[Jackofhearts2005]

About 3 hours to go.

TH, make another choice. Board is wide open for you.

[Sloonei]

so you don't wanna go a soul searching train ride through india with me and owen wilson? or, you know, talk about your reads?

It has no effect

[Turnip Head]

About 3 hours to go.

TH, make another choice. Board is wide open for you.

[Kylemii]

okay, I cut out the first half of all this because it doesn't actually seem important, just a bunch of questions I asked and some things I "didn't follow up on" even though asking questions and following up on things about half the time is basically who I am as a person. If there's anything in there you want me to answer about, please isolate the portion of the post and @ me, otherwise letting those go cus I have more important things to do rn

who shot first between speed and jack? what's the timeline

Wrapping his head around the speed/jack kerfuffle. Also I want to stubbornly point out that kyle is employing the same method of filling himself in by asking questions about current events that he criticized me for earlier this phase.

ok well first of all my complaint to you was that you were allowing things you only sort of thought were possibly true to be the basis of an accusation when you were admitting that you hadn't read anything. that's part for the course for me. it's well above par for you.

i wanna see what happens if i [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

He votes for speedchuck. I don't know exactly what the poll was like at the time, but I can take a peak at timing and thread context...
This is very early in Day 5. Things were unsettled, but the general attitude toward speedchuck was that he was bad. I see no reason this can't be a safe bit of distancing from Kyle.

that's actually false. I was the second vote on speedchuck. I put my vote on him because I was interested in Jack's behavior. The sudden escalation implied information to me so I dug through his posts, viewing them through the lens of "would these posts make sense in context of a bad speed" I voted for him cus I was interested in seeing the effects on the thread and the poll if speed we're in contention to be lynched.

It should be noted that Kyle has not stated any suspicion of speedchuck prior to this in the game.

yeah. because he wasn't relevant. neither was jack. then they leaped into the air and started trading punches like Goku and Piccolo so I thought to myself "yeah I should look into these guys"

Nova, 100% Nova

why so many %?

I don't have thoughts on speedchuck yet

space daisy i look up to you as a bastion of good reading ability, i would take it as a personal favor if you looked over his iso and gave an impression

implores daisy to look at speedchuck. He doesn't look at speedchuck himself though.

[/quote]

again I did look into him, just cus i don't write a million word essay every time I read something doesn't mean I didn't read it. I asked spacedaisy to give me her thoughts on speed because I was interested in her response specifically. I wanted speed to be talked about and I felt like SD was dismissing the possibility of him being mafia. then SD drove him through with a broadsword which was pretty neat.

Nova is town.

Jack is trying to prove a point. He might actually think I'm bad if he's 3P. He's wrong, and he doesn't care. He never cared before I prodded back at him.

Way I see it, if Jack is 3P, he cannot lose with my lynch. When I flip town, he'll send out his last offer and join scum. If I flipped scum, he'd join town with that extra cred. Tell me his MO doesn't look like this.

hey by the way what the heck does this mean, do you think jack is 3p?

Fixed a typo.

I think it's likely.

then why are you voting for him

Not a bad question, but at this point things were starting to tip against speedchuck and this is the first time I feel like I've seen Kyle put any meaningful pressure on him in quite a number of posts.

early vote was about pressure. this was just a question.

My vote for speedchuck along with my reading him and encouraging SD to give an opinion on him, which resulted in her making a case on him was 90% based on my assumption that Jack has used an info role on Speedchuck during night 4

did you see the link Scotty compiled? why would Jack wait till night 4 to use any info role on speed is the question, considering he's called for speed's lynch and scumminess practically from day 1. who else has Jack done that with? who else has Jack actively hounded up until Day 5? and coincidentally, day 5 is the day he gets heat. seems convenient? I just don't like to assume everything is a coincidence.

I haven't read anything I'm still like 4 pages behind.

Jack's sudden escalation in suspecting Speedchuck has no visible reasoning, he even said "I've suspected speedchuck since the beginning, I just started going hard on it starting last night" it seemed arbitrary, and the reason I trusted it was because of that. but there's a lot of things that don't actually add up.

Post-lynch Kyle lends some support to the theory that Jack bussed speedchuck, which I am still not buying. I'd still be open to hearing a comprehensive argument in favor of it, but now I need to leave in like 45 minutes and I don't think that's happening before day's end.

Sloonei, i'm uncomfortable with how easily you seem to be dismissing the idea that speedchuck might have been bussed.

So, as I let slip, I'm comfortable with my vote on Kyle based on these interactions. That said, I don't think this is a rock solid case. For instance, my focus is limited almost entirely to Kyle's treatment of speedchuck in this ISO, so I am not getting a full picture of his activity in the game, and the casual, breezy manner in which he treated chuck is almost certainly not an isolated thing for Kyle. But as I look through it, it is decidedly uninspiring and there's absolutely nothing in any of these posts that makes me think Kyle is absolutely a town read.
Still voting Kylemii, and I'd be happy to have his name kept in the conversation as we work toward the deadline today. But I won't be around for the final 3+ hours.

hey what the fuck is this entire paragraph

[Jackofhearts2005]

I feel bad about Scotty at this point in the Yesterday Review and I feel confident in my Kyle read (which is a good thing for Kyle so don't fight me on this ). I don't think we should lynch him [mention]Sloonei[/mention] and I think your vote would be better placed on Marmot.

That is, I'm looking at possibly lynching Marmot, Dunya, Wolbre or Quin today. I don't see the other players as options. You've weighed in on Wolbre and Quin, not particularly wanting to lynch them. You won't have time to vote for Dunya. Ergo, you should vote Marmot to make that more of an option if you aren't going to be back before EOD.

[Jackofhearts2005]

About 3 hours to go.

TH, make another choice. Board is wide open for you.

If you're town and there's a well hidden baddie like Daisy or MP or Sloonei, we'll be in trouble because I'm lynching you before them.

[Sloonei]

You know what Sloonei, it might look like I'm farting around because I'm posting pictures and using weird hunting techniques and just generally having fun, but I have a feeling that most of my posts are not being taken as seriously as they should be.

You’ve definitely made serious contributioms, I’m not saying you haven’t. But you’ve also gotten by on a heavy dose of jokes and things since Day 1. I don’t think it’s impossible for you to do this as scum. I don’t think that has to be the case either.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Day 5 MP Rainbow:

Strong town:
dunya
Jackofhearts2005
Spacedaisy

Moderate town:
Kylemii
Turnip Head

Slight town:
colonialbob
Marmot
Scotty

Very slight town:
Choutas
wolbre04

Very slight mafia:
Sloonei

Slight mafia:
Quin

Moderate mafia:
novaselinenever

Strong mafia:
speedchuck

For reference. This is near the end of the Speedchuck train, which MP was excited as fuck about. He also called me clutch.

[Kylemii]

hang on

i'm getting my laptop out motherfuckers

[Sloonei]

I feel bad about Scotty at this point in the Yesterday Review and I feel confident in my Kyle read (which is a good thing for Kyle so don't fight me on this ). I don't think we should lynch him @Sloonei and I think your vote would be better placed on Marmot.

That is, I'm looking at possibly lynching Marmot, Dunya, Wolbre or Quin today. I don't see the other players as options. You've weighed in on Wolbre and Quin, not particularly wanting to lynch them. You won't have time to vote for Dunya. Ergo, you should vote Marmot to make that more of an option if you aren't going to be back before EOD.

Gimme a quick argument to change my vote to marmot. I need to leave in ~10 minutes.

[Turnip Head]

If you're town and there's a well hidden baddie like Daisy or MP or Sloonei, we'll be in trouble because I'm lynching you before them.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I feel bad about Scotty at this point in the Yesterday Review and I feel confident in my Kyle read (which is a good thing for Kyle so don't fight me on this ). I don't think we should lynch him @Sloonei and I think your vote would be better placed on Marmot.

That is, I'm looking at possibly lynching Marmot, Dunya, Wolbre or Quin today. I don't see the other players as options. You've weighed in on Wolbre and Quin, not particularly wanting to lynch them. You won't have time to vote for Dunya. Ergo, you should vote Marmot to make that more of an option if you aren't going to be back before EOD.

Gimme a quick argument to change my vote to marmot. I need to leave in ~10 minutes.

Kyle was second voter on Speedchuck and hit him with a few key posts like "You think Jack is 3P? Then why are you voting for him." He's not followed through on accusations, true, but that's pretty normal for Kyle and he gets accused of that a lot. I haven't seen any reason to suspect Kyle is teamed with Speed or (though I haven't looked for this as much) Colin.

Marmot has done a lot of nonhelpful work like color coded voting lists without much analysis beyond useless stuff like "Unless Daisy is scum, Colin's teammates bussed him cause all other nonColin voters are town." Well great but Colin was lynched with around 11 votes with the next closest train being 3. This does not narrow it down.

Marmot also ignored my Speedchuck case when there were an equal number of people trying to lynch me as Speedchuck. Way to not take a stand with (Daisy, Kyle, MP) to cause Speed to get lynched or against (Scotty, TH) to draw suspicion on yourself.

I'm not convinced Marmot is bad. I need to investigate more. But I'm convinced he could be a good lynch choice today and imo, Kyle can't be.

[Kylemii]

Chapter 5 incoming, this one's rated R to appeal specifically to turnip head[/dead] to the new and most common reader demographic

[Jackofhearts2005]

The more shitposting I see with consecutive mislynches and strong town voices, the more frustrated I become with this game.

I really don’t want to be here when I’m frustrated, but I feel alone here. At least Kyle is making some headway. Thanks Kyle

Hey I'm also upset. I walked away from this thread with 30 minutes in the day phase, and Lunalee had 1 vote. Had I been around, I would have defended her lynch. Like seriously, the Oracle had expressed trust in her twice!

On reflection, I don't think a scum Marmot makes this post.

Disagree. As you said, the oracle posts mean nothing. Why lean on them? It’s misleading and a claim “I would have done a protown thing” is worthless.

I still think Marmot is proooobably town but the post you quoted is part of why I suspect him.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]
For your consideration, one way or another.

[Jackofhearts2005]

The more shitposting I see with consecutive mislynches and strong town voices, the more frustrated I become with this game.

I really don’t want to be here when I’m frustrated, but I feel alone here. At least Kyle is making some headway. Thanks Kyle

Hey I'm also upset. I walked away from this thread with 30 minutes in the day phase, and Lunalee had 1 vote. Had I been around, I would have defended her lynch. Like seriously, the Oracle had expressed trust in her twice!

On reflection, I don't think a scum Marmot makes this post.

Disagree. As you said, the oracle posts mean nothing. Why lean on them? It’s misleading and a claim “I would have done a protown thing” is worthless.

I still think Marmot is proooobably town but the post you quoted is part of why I suspect him.

I know it's WIFOM, but the exact reasoning you lay out here is why I think scum Marmot wouldn't make the post.

Here's the progression of that post:

Genuine indignation. A declaration of taking a stance based on said indignation. A simultaneously jokey yet serious way to end the progression -- note the illogical sentiment, which is important.

Scum Marmot doesn't progress like that. Scum Marmot has two zones of operation: 100% serious and 100% jokey. He doesn't mix them up when scum. The progression reads genuine, as if Marmot was expressing genuine frustration regarding the situation, then felt like he not only had to lighten the mood a bit at the end, but in a manner that he believes in. IMO scum Marmot would have either said the orange and red bits and stopped there, or just the pink bit.

It's certainly not airtight, but it's how I interpreted it nonetheless.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]
This is more thorough.

[Jackofhearts2005]

GTH baddie teams from most to least likely:

speed / nova / Quin
speed / nova / Sloonei
speed / nova / wolbre
speed / nova / Scotty
speed / nova / Marmot
speed / nova / Choutas
speed / nova / cbob
speed / Quin / Sloonei
nova / Quin / Sloonei
speed / Sloonei / Scotty

There are plenty of other possibilities, but top 10 seems like enough. It'd be really interesting to explore these as possible teammates and do some interaction analyses, but perhaps it should wait until we have a confirmed flip.

If MP can't be around to play, I'll just repost stuff he said awhile back.

[Jackofhearts2005]

GTH baddie teams from most to least likely:

speed / nova / Quin
speed / nova / Sloonei
speed / nova / wolbre
speed / nova / Scotty
speed / nova / Marmot
speed / nova / Choutas
speed / nova / cbob
speed / Quin / Sloonei
nova / Quin / Sloonei
speed / Sloonei / Scotty

There are plenty of other possibilities, but top 10 seems like enough. It'd be really interesting to explore these as possible teammates and do some interaction analyses, but perhaps it should wait until we have a confirmed flip.

If MP can't be around to play, I'll just repost stuff he said awhile back.

EBWOP.

[Jackofhearts2005]

MP sure hated Nova.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Would quin really be phoning it in this much if he's bad? Serious question i spose

Yes.

See: Fire Emblem

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yesterday Review

Quin's response to the Speedchuck train after Kyle (experimentally), Wolbre (paradoxically and regretfully) and MP (waving a flag like a patriot of the country of Lynchspeedchuckia) were aboard.

i'm gonna sleep soon. nova sounded like a good vote to me yesterday, and the flip would shine some light on bob who someone's pointed out as looking w/w compatible with colin.

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

I'll set an alarm so I'm here for EoD. I'll need to be up for Ass Class anyway, so I'll field some questions then.

I don't get this post as town or mafia.

Choutas, badass that he was, jumps on shortly after. Then Sloonei's like

Why are we lynching speedchuck?

Why are we lynching speedchuck?

His defence against Jack has been even more discriminating. He in turn accused him of being Indy and basically scumslipped because of it.

Even more incriminating than what? I haven’t been here for the last 48 hours.

I remember reading someone saying something about speedchuck treating them “how scum would treat 3p” but that’s the extent of my awareness of this lynch. I don’t plan on reading all of the events of this day phase.

Does Sloonei ever weigh in? We shall see.




Our poor departed Scotty makes this post regarding Speed/Nova. Good to remember, even if it seems likely that Nova is the townie lynch remover. Esp if we ever learn he's not. This is very wifomy, though.

Spoiler: show

I just took a gander of speed’s posts in regards to nova:
Day 1:

[VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

You don't have to 'settle' yet. We have 9 hours to find another road to go down.

“Dont settle on nova, sig”

[VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

You don't have to 'settle' yet. We have 9 hours to find another road to go down.

My activity is going to probably be non-existent today so I'm in a bit of a rush to get my vote somewhere that I'm comfortable with.

Though i still find dom and to a lesser extent mp suspicious.

I read over Nova's posts and have zero reason to be comfy with a nova vote.

“There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for me to vote nova.” That’s a strong stance.

I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.

Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN

This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.

Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

“Nova was my biggest surprise. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi. But I don’t have a reason to vote nova”

Okay. WHAT??! He went from absolutely no reason to vote him to being surprised the most out of anyone on the list that he thinks is town to thinking of voting him but not because there is no reason to vote him.

That’s like finding the hypotenuse of a right triangle as an imaginary number because no reason.

Speedchuck was outright protecting nova D1. They are teammates

[Jackofhearts2005]

More appeal to avoid the nova lynch on D1:

I've read his ISO thrice. I don't get it. Why the heck are @MacDougall, @sig, and @Turnip Head voting for Nova?

I'm looking to possibly move my vote and the only two options that really matter at this point (I'll be completely AFK for the last 2 hours of day) are:

Dunya - this lynch is based on a scumslip I don't believe occurred. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous, and I refuse to vote there.
Nova - I have no idea why Nova has any votes.

Night 1:

Hm. I'm not pleased with the outcome, and I had Sig as a townread, but having caught up in the thread for the night, I can't say I'm mad about it. Sig kept his vote parked on Nova (I still never saw a reason for ANYONE who was doing that) and refused to engage questions that people put to him.

I read him as town, but at least people had reasons to vote him unlike with Nova.

Completely blasting everyone voting nova even after the sig vote.

More Scotty vs Nova in the Yesterday Review.

Speedchuck spews a lot but it smells like wine. He knew he was dead at this point so I'm throwing out anything he says.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why do you think Quin is bad?

Usually Quin is my first townread in a game. I usually see a genuine spark of towniness from him early. But in this game, I'm hard-pressed to say that he's had any impact on me one way or another. I have zero reason to read him as town.

Like this? Bleh. Doesn't cause me to read anything about Quin.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Tinfoil: jack is indie, has been communicating anonymously with the leader of the Persians, speed. He’s since figured out speed’s identity, since the leader of the Athenians is already dead. He’s since joined town and is selling out speed

This is not the case but God, I love this post.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Done with my yesterday review. Nothing else of substance save Sloonei eventually voting Speed and some people voting Nova just because but as Speed was surely lynched and bussable, they don't have any save/heart in them so I don't find them very suspicious.

Time to ISO Marmot and/or Dunya.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine because it feels right and I don’t sense a kyle lynch happening today. I am working now, keep doing things y’all

[Jackofhearts2005]

Pretty yuck post to make around the time Sloonei and Colin are tied for lynch.

Where did this Sloonei suspicion go? Did it disappear?

Spoiler: show

Oh, whoops. Keep forgetting these vote tag things.

[VOTE: VOTE: JACKOFHEARTS2005] aubergine

I think your choice to move is daft. You probably caught a bad guy and felt manipulated out of the vote.

My preference for a vote is Sloonei or LC. I think they both are stronger cases than Colin, but Colin is also a good case.

Sloonei and Long Con.

Spoiler: show

I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?

It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

I most prefer a sloonei vote right now which is where I sit.

Sloonei before Long Con.

Spoiler: show

LC 'I'll call people out for making a statement about me, but it's a waste of time for me to demonstrate they are wrong'.

I don't believe that me finding a game or two when I was Civ and you thought I was bad is going to change anything. I don't have time to go delving into the Museum of Mafioso just so you can stick to your guns.

I don't either, because a 'game or two' is certainly insufficient to demonstrate that 'I'm wrong about you far more than I am right'. It just demonstrated I'm not always right.

I'll cop to that for free. I wasn't playing in the GoC, but if I was, I wouldn't have been calling you out as bad before your slip. I never claim to be always right about you. I'm not even always right about MP, and I read him right nearly every time. But to suggest I don't read you well, generally speaking, is an untruthful suggestion.

I hear what you're saying, but right here, right now, really flies in the face of that belief.

Well we'll see about that. I've always said I need three or four full days to get a handle on you, I haven't had that yet, who knows where I'll be then. I do admit I can see both sides of this one. You are doing some stuff that looks very much like your baddie self, but I'm not going to pretend my opinion is impregnable. You fit least well in to my team of four, and there are aspects of your play that remind me of genuinely frustrated town LC.

If sloonei was lynched and came back bad, I'd certainly have other fish to fry before I came back to you.

Probably not Long Con after Sloonei.

Spoiler: show

Oh, whoops. Keep forgetting these vote tag things.

[VOTE: VOTE: JACKOFHEARTS2005] aubergine

I think your choice to move is daft. You probably caught a bad guy and felt manipulated out of the vote.

My preference for a vote is Sloonei or LC. I think they both are stronger cases than Colin, but Colin is also a good case.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time that happened to me. I'm thinking it over.

Explain your thoughts on Colin to me; I'm not totally seeing it.

Weak, poorly explained vote at deadline.
Hasn't defended it well.
Sloonei/colin/luna team fits in particular

What did you think about my 'theory of the game' post?

Lo- oh nvm.

Spoiler: show

Golden, GTH, is LC bad?

Yep. Give me a harder one.

In all fairness my flag is a small flag, but my eye is firmly on him.

Long Con, didn't make the above list.

Spoiler: show

Sloonei
Colin
LC
Luna (changed read for me)

These four read quite team-compatible to me. Lots of links between their behaviours that could make sense. I’ll elaborate when I get time but generally pressed for time on long explanations right now - but anyone else who feels like grabbing the ball, I think this is a good set of four to examine in the collective.

Long Con, made the list.



also this freaked me out what the HELL

Quin

Hi man

I have reservations about Golden being town as well, but I do feel confident about Sloonei being mafia, so I plan to revisit Golden after today's lynch. That is assuming Sloonei is lynched. Honestly, part of the reason I think Golden could be town is the way I watched Sloonei treat him on Day 1, would only touch him with a 44 and a half foot pole.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Colin hasn't really posted since I've started following this game.

I guess that's reason enough to vote for him.

Aaaand turn

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also, I has a rainbow list. Get skittled y'all.

colonialbob
Golden
Lunalee
Turnip Head
Kylemii
M Plus 7
Quin
Sloonei
speedchuck
wolbre04
Choutas
dunya
Jackofhearts2005
novaselinenever
Scotty
Spacedaisy

Marmot’s first real anything about Speed...on Day 4.

Do players who know Marmot better expect him to avoid teammates like this?

[Kylemii]

Chapter 5: The SEX Chapter (Rated R For Lewd Behavior)

Spoiler: show

"ever head of 'Fuck'?" Becca asked "also isn't space neat? look at this fucking.... look at this fucke d up laser sword i have, isn't it cool how just uh.... how cool this um... hey! pokemon is here too. and anime. anime is real and is part of this fanfiction. i just met goku and he's really nice."

"interesting,here are my thoughts on all remaining players. students"

"dunya : i.... hm.... dunya has been very off and on, with her posting presence, which isn't saying much because she still has more posts than most of us. when she is around i've liked her contributions, they felt like 'dunyaposts' that didn't need any sort of.... effort to create. not to say the posts weren't work, but that didn't seem to be faking it.

Jackofhearts2005: he was influential in speedchuck's demise. given who speedchuck is as a person and the way jack went about suspecting speed, i feel like there's still some possibility of him being speed's partner who had been given permission to bus him ahead of time, as a long term Mortal Kombat style speedchuck style gambit.

Kites / Quin : hmmm, he had some real activity early but just a little. there's not much here really. i read his entire iso and i don't know what he thinks about basically anything. he says he aimed to play a more spur of the moment game and i respect that but he's spurred very few moments. if nova is bad quin probably isn't bad... it also seems like speedchuck maybe went after quin a little? this might be good to look into but not right now. after this.*

Kylemii : definitely good, and! Fun Fact: almost always smells like citrus

M Plus 7 : his most standout action was his driving a semi truck into the thread to save spacedaisy, otherwise i get a genreally earmest vibe from him.... he's not the most town looking but he's also not particularly bad looking either. he's in that awkward spot, i don't think he's a good lynch.

Marmot : i had literally 0 recollection of anything related to marmot existing in this game prior to this fanfic, yet he has 9 pages worth of posts. his interractions with colin were uninspiring. neither are his interactions with speed. there's some iso stuff that looks pretty good active, trying... i'd be interested in hearing peoples thoughts on marmot. i feel like he's been swimming under the radar and i would like him to be discussed more now that we're possibly nearing the twilight hours of this game

novaselinenever : has been farily innactive most of the game, there's some icky stuff early on especially related to colin, would be a good place to review i think.

Sloonei : i forgot that sloonei was up against colin for lynch.. sloonei kind of falls in with dunya in the same position of 'this is a player who usually drives the town train' who's been faltering, but still sorta kicking the shit out of posting a lot. when he's here he's putting a lot of effort into the kind of isos and things i expect from town sloonei.

Spacedaisy: hm.... i guess similarly to jack, jack called out speedchuck and i sorta grabbed the ball and handed it to spacedaisy, she slamducked the ball into the field zone. idk i don't see it. i don't think spacedaisy is the kind of player who'd be comfortable bussing a teammate so hard, as maybe her most tangible action in the game. i think also the mafia has had a clear strategy of culling the top contributors first, i don't think SD would want to be party to that

Turnip Head: he's a wildboy but he's posted a lot and i just... trust him i guess. he feels trusty. this is his first game back in forever and playing such a blatantly relaxed game would be crazy and.... tbh really cool and i'd be really even more impressed than i already am but, im just not feeling it.

wolbre04: this is only wolbre's 8th mafia game and all of his previous games were town games, except one where he was a serial killer, he's never been mafia before so it's possible his strange treatment of speedchuck's lynch is a result of... idk newness, but the fact that he vocalized it doesn't make sense. i feel like wolbre's most likely indie."

"great!!!" said Becca " I lovee.... NARUTO!!!! Go, Bulbarsaur! DIgimon!!!! here are some swear words i know, piss, bastard, a butt etc." she gazed out of the space station window into the ether. "i'm so glad i came to this vampire orgy college, in space, to find love."

[Kylemii]

plz don't be tricked by the title that is actually a list of my current thoughts on all living players in addition to being some excellent vampire fanfiction that maybe got a bit off the rails cus of fan backlash :\

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hey Marmot, what are your reads? Have you done any nightkill analysis this game?

Here's my rainbow. You?

Oooooh, cool.

I'm most interested in your elaborations on the following reads: Turnip Head, speedchuck, dunya, Jack, nova, and Scotty.

Whenever convenient. Or I can just dig through your ISO in detail later if that'd be easier.

I'll expound later. I only poked in to see the lynch results, but I gotta run.


I'm a little annoyed that after all the discussion that was put in today, we Hot-Potatoed someone who could be most easily aligned with a role. But hey, maybe we can turn some juicy stuff out of it.

I really hope Spacedaisy is bad, if only because Luna's counterwagon would be more meaningful.

This never happened.

Did this happen?

We just lynched a baddie his ISO and interactions may turn something up.

I'm available later tonight and will try look into everyone's interactive ISOs with speedchuck, and do so with an equally open mind, so as not to hint too much who I might vote for today.

[Kylemii]

gotta say the game feels a lot less hopeless the moment i accept that jack maybe didn't slam dunk a teammate speedchuck into oblivion

[Kylemii]

the eye of sauron moves towards nova and marmot

[Jackofhearts2005]

@novaselinenever

Come out and plaaaaaaaaaaay.

I'm back. Catching up.

Nova’s last post was on Night 5.

I don’t think he took himself off the lynch poll.

Either the town lynch stopper is really confident Nova is good (unlikely) or the 3P traded the lynch stop to the scum team and Nova’s teammate took him off.

[Kylemii]

or the 3P traded the lynch stop to the scum team and Nova’s teammate took him off.

is that mechanically possible?

[Kylemii]

the lynch remove power could have been traded to an indie in exchange for a different power, but the indie wouldn't be able to trade that one out to a scum member,

an indie might have ended up with that power and used it to save nova in but why would the original haver of the power give it up in the first place

[Kylemii]

my phone is dying and i have to leave the house for a minute, i'm placing my vote on marmot for now. will change if needed [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

[quite=JTrips]Members of the Hellenic League are not permitted to use their own items, but they may use abilities they have gained through negotiation. They may also use abilities they have gained through negotiation for further negotiation. Each member of the Hellenic League is only permitted to give one of their original item to any single faction. This means that, for example, the Diplomatic Representative of Corinth may not give all three of his or her original items to the Persian faction through negotiation. They must be spread among the three factions.

Maybe the 3P players were screwing around for 4+ days. Maybe they were making new trades.

[Jackofhearts2005]

EBWOP

Members of the Hellenic League are not permitted to use their own items, but they may use abilities they have gained through negotiation. They may also use abilities they have gained through negotiation for further negotiation. Each member of the Hellenic League is only permitted to give one of their original item to any single faction. This means that, for example, the Diplomatic Representative of Corinth may not give all three of his or her original items to the Persian faction through negotiation. They must be spread among the three factions.

Maybe the 3P players were screwing around for 4+ days. Maybe they were making new trades.