JaggedJimmyJay wrote:timmer wrote:@JJJ, reading your posts that have the word Epignosis in them, it does seem like your view on the alignment of Epignosis changed while your thoughts of his particular gameplay didn't, much. To expand: you've acknowledged from Day 1 that Epig was pursuing a specific way of playing, and you suggested early on that a baddie Epig would NOT do this. You mentioned this a few times.
And then, even in light of you trying to post about Epig during your curse, you then afterwards listed Epig as good in a GTH. But only now after he posted the "told you so" style posts after AP's death that had irked me, did you start referring to him as suspicious for the very same gameplay. Is it the told-you-so posts that tipped the scale, for you?
Please explain, because my read feels like you didn't change your mind on how he is playing, but changed your mind on the alignment that it represents. Is that right?
I would say both are true to an extent -- I don't view the way he is playing the same way I did on Day 1, and that change has facilitated a less positive perspective of alignment.
On Day 1, I suggested a baddie Epi would be unlikely to play in a way that isn't prideful -- or in a way that is lazy. I was referring to his posting gimmick, the post-rock song titles. I was not referring to his employment of POE, or his lack of named suspects, or anything
game-relevant. To that point, he hadn't put a great deal of original content in the thread, and I said that I would expect a bad Epi to be doing
something more with his posts. As the game has progressed, his posts have shifted from their earliest silly flavor to what is currently a very game-relevant and focused flavor, even if the gimmick still holds. I expanded on my Day 2 grievances with Epignosis in Night 2 when I was able to speak. For much of the day I felt he was dicking around with both Golden and I and not making a real effort to understand us.
At the end of Day 2 though he and I ended up voting together, for DrWilgy. Something that has happened with decent frequency in games featuring both a town Epi and a town JJJ has been mutual suspicion which shifts to cooperation. We rarely get through a game without engaging in some kind of combat for whatever reason, but we also have been able to temper that suspicion when it comes to our eventual voting decisions when it's clear neither is being lynched. When he was willing to step away from his suspicion of me on Day 2 and vote alongside me, that's something I appreciated. It was probably the primary reason I gave him the town nod on Day 3.
Then the A Person lynch happened and he saddled the blame for all three lynches on my shoulders. That's another move I recognize, this time recalling a
scum Epignosis in Red vs. Blue, in which I -- being the typical Analytic Thread Leader that I tend to be perceived as -- get the blame dumped on me. It's not just blame though, it's accusation. A baddie Epignosis has tried to make me the scapegoat before for erroneous votes I have made (in Red vs. Blue), and on this Night 3 it has felt like that's happening again. Combine that with the fact that I have doubts about whether he was truly invested in preventing the lynches that he
told you so'd about after the fact, and that's cause for suspicion. It's why I have tried this night phase to engage a dialogue to understand him better and qualify that read.
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