Steely Dan Mafia [ENDGAME]

[MacDougall]

b/c It was just easy to copy the list of names....and I figured, I could reference the list later, copy and paste and use it again, deleting the dead

Fair

[MacDougall]

Hahahaha - will nova and Mac be on the same side? Will they both win or lose? OR will one of them move ahead in the only game that counts?

Does Juliets know the answers to some of these questions?

OOOOooof sPiCy


Any major dude will tell you

Does anyone think that nutella found this to be spicy?

Jay can I have an updated opinion on nutella please.

[MacDougall]

I like juliets. I feel like she is involved more so than usual. I am not entirely sure why that would be but I don't think it is in a bad way and I don't really want to discourage it. I'd give her a light green skittle (if I had skittles to give).

[juliets]

I'm sorry for what I did Juliets lol.

It's not your fault nova. People are reading things into what I said that aren't there.

[juliets]

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] what is your response to the votes on you? What do you think of Jay and nutella?

[MacDougall]

Okay I just reaalised how stupid it is to make a post for each person so here's one post for everyone left

Jesus fuck that Kites wall post is gold. I'm gonna read it some more after I get back to it but it's the biggest town look so far. So much sincerity.

leetic has given us nothing sadly.

Long Con has given us more than leetic but his three miniscule posts actually kind of giving me negative vibes.

Lunalee on relook isn't really bugging me anymore.

I like Matahari and would subscribe to his newsletter.

Neverwhere is leetic but with green apologies. Cool.

Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Already skimmed nova. Town. Look away.

nutella re-read makes me feel worse. I didn't really dwell on the oof spicy thing but it's really quite asinine in a bad way and I would 10/10 like to see her executed in the most painless fashion because I like her as a person.

reywas simply does not exist. Is reywas a figment of our imagination? Was reywas ever really here? Is reywas Keyser Soze? Does reywas have any loved ones that are out looking for him (bad joke sorry)? Should we send for help? Where are you reywas? Come home friend.

Spacedaisy is tough to get a read on. I would put her and Jay in the same bucket of "can always be anything and would never surprise". Wouldn't vote.

Speedchuck re-read makes me doubt my initial pings. I was going to give him a pass for posting while high but he's really not come to the dance since. Maybe he and Lunalee are off makin' babies. Do it for yer country.

Summary incoming.

[MacDougall]

Dragon D. Luffy
dunya
Kites
novaselinenever
Matahari
juliets
JaggedJimmyJay
Spacedaisy
nijuukyugou
Elochin
Lunalee
speedchuck
Jackofhearts2005
nutella

leetic
reywaS
neverwhere
long con

Introducing the new "doesn't belong in a rainbow" section! Coming soon to everyone elses posts near you.

I think there are at least one mafia in the pink pile. There isn't enough scumjuice in the thread for the whole team to be posting I feel. If I had to 86 one of them it would be Long Con.

[juliets]

Jack, give me a rainbow

Jack
Speed
Nova
Nutella
Dunya
Jay
DDL
Juliets
Daisy

Everyone else is meh.

Jack remember Vault Hunter? You also said you suspected me in that game for something normal, i.e., asking questions. You were bad in that game so I can't help but think about that as you pronounce me bad in this game for something equally innocent.

[dunya]

@MacDougall who are some of your town reads?

You

why?

[dunya]

Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall who are some of your town reads?

You

why?

Are there some scummy things you've done I should have noticed?

[dunya]

Lunalee on relook isn't really bugging me anymore.

in your own words, what's good about lunalee?

[MacDougall]

Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Okay let me explain further.

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Oh wait it's identical. That's because I could not have made my point any clearer.

[MacDougall]

Lunalee on relook isn't really bugging me anymore.

in your own words, what's good about lunalee?

Nothing good. Nothing particularly bad.

[dunya]

@MacDougall who are some of your town reads?

You

why?

Are there some scummy things you've done I should have noticed?

i'll never >not< be creeped out by you townreading me.

i did something scummy on day 0 where i suspected jay cos of his speedchuck/matahari reads. have a look in my early iso.

[juliets]

My town reads so far are (and they are not in any order):

Nova
JJJ
Mac
dunya
DDL
kites
Mata

I'll be reading back the others to narrow down my suspects.

linki

[dunya]

Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Okay let me explain further.

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Oh wait it's identical. That's because I could not have made my point any clearer.

i have no idea why mafia niju wouldn't say "who's suspicious, eh?" like, 0 ideas.

when i'm mafia, i'll ask people who they think is bad. i'll do it and piggy back on their suspicions too. much easier than building my own cases.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall who are some of your town reads?

You

why?

Are there some scummy things you've done I should have noticed?

i'll never >not< be creeped out by you townreading me.

i did something scummy on day 0 where i suspected jay cos of his speedchuck/matahari reads. have a look in my early iso.

So you want me to go and find this post that you yourself say is scummy in order to scum read you so that you aren't creeped out by me town reading you?

Okay. Must be a European thing.

[dunya]

hold my beer....i think i discovered something about jack and jay

[dunya]

@MacDougall who are some of your town reads?

You

why?

Are there some scummy things you've done I should have noticed?

i'll never >not< be creeped out by you townreading me.

i did something scummy on day 0 where i suspected jay cos of his speedchuck/matahari reads. have a look in my early iso.

So you want me to go and find this post that you yourself say is scummy in order to scum read you so that you aren't creeped out by me town reading you?

Okay. Must be a European thing.

[MacDougall]

Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Okay let me explain further.

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Oh wait it's identical. That's because I could not have made my point any clearer.

i have no idea why mafia niju wouldn't say "who's suspicious, eh?" like, 0 ideas.

when i'm mafia, i'll ask people who they think is bad. i'll do it and piggy back on their suspicions too. much easier than building my own cases.

Because it's a ridiculous thing for any self respecting mafioso to post on the fly. It's too balls out and scummy to be genuine when the easier alternative would be to just not at all do that.

It's wifom as fuck but I feel strongly about it in this case. It only applies to niju because she was in a rush and has hardly posted. If it was someone who was prominent I would not give them the same quarter.

[MacDougall]

Question - Does Australia being in Eurovision annoy you Dunya? Australia is just Europe South you know.

[Jackofhearts2005]

We’re all lined up at the starting line. and Dunya stars running the wrong way on the track and then Nutella runs into the stands and I’m just over here wondering what I missed.

Kites and Luna? Wat?

yeah? and? so? where's your vote mr. ofhearts2005?

On my suspect.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Why’s your vote, Miss Unya?

[novaselinenever]

Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Okay let me explain further.

"Who's suspicious, eh?" is sig worthy stuff if niju is mafia. I don't think mafia niju makes this post. I think mafia niju just leaves the first sentence.

Oh wait it's identical. That's because I could not have made my point any clearer.

i have no idea why mafia niju wouldn't say "who's suspicious, eh?" like, 0 ideas.

when i'm mafia, i'll ask people who they think is bad. i'll do it and piggy back on their suspicions too. much easier than building my own cases.

Because it's a ridiculous thing for any self respecting mafioso to post on the fly. It's too balls out and scummy to be genuine when the easier alternative would be to just not at all do that.

It's wifom as fuck but I feel strongly about it in this case. It only applies to niju because she was in a rush and has hardly posted. If it was someone who was prominent I would not give them the same quarter.

You play Mafia the right way

[novaselinenever]

We’re all lined up at the starting line. and Dunya stars running the wrong way on the track and then Nutella runs into the stands and I’m just over here wondering what I missed.

Kites and Luna? Wat?

yeah? and? so? where's your vote mr. ofhearts2005?

On my suspect.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Why’s your vote, Miss Unya?

Lol

[novaselinenever]

My town reads so far are (and they are not in any order):

Nova
JJJ
Mac
dunya
DDL
kites
Mata

I'll be reading back the others to narrow down my suspects.

linki

GTH who's your top suspect?

[MacDougall]

We’re all lined up at the starting line. and Dunya stars running the wrong way on the track and then Nutella runs into the stands and I’m just over here wondering what I missed.

Kites and Luna? Wat?

yeah? and? so? where's your vote mr. ofhearts2005?

On my suspect.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Why’s your vote, Miss Unya?

I figured out why I suspect you. It's because you haven't been posting anime gifs and amping yourself up like an anime hero.

[dunya]

hold my beer....i think i discovered something about jack and jay

it wasn't jack. i misremembered. i need to find that post and tell ya'll what i think i discovered.

[dunya]

only way to do that is go through jay's posts now

[MacDougall]

It's only page 16 harden the fuck up

[dunya]

how the fuck do you search for keywords IN THE THREAD

[dunya]

nvm found it.

[juliets]

My town reads so far are (and they are not in any order):

Nova
JJJ
Mac
dunya
DDL
kites
Mata

I'll be reading back the others to narrow down my suspects.

linki

GTH who's your top suspect?

GTH either Jack or nutella BUT this is before I re-read them.

nutella's tone is off to me, she seems hostile as opposed to her normal aggressive self. It could be that it was only one or two of her posts that seemed hostile and I've extrapolated from that which is why I want the re-read.

Jack's suspicion of me doesn't make much sense given I have clarified my post, including showing it to him so he can see what he suspects doesn't exist and explaining what it meant. I also agree with Jay that he misinterpreted Daisy's post but to my memory he never responded to that. And finally, he was after me in another game where he was bad over something innocent. I want the re-read though.

I also think there is some merit in what Mac said about the pink people on his list though I'm not ready to GTH any of them bad yet.

[dunya]

What do you think this setup looks like?

Haven't the slightest clue. At 19, 15 vs 4 would be the closest to a raw balance. Independents change that though, as do the roles which could be anything. Who knows

What do you think this setup looks like?

Haven't the slightest clue. At 19, 15 vs 4 would be the closest to a raw balance. Independents change that though, as do the roles which could be anything. Who knows

I've seen you do more detailed analysis with similar levels of scarce info.

Though we did give you shit last time you did it so I get if you don't wanna do it again.

The issue is the number of players. It’s easier to guess how 12 players may be aligned, because there are only a small number of viable possibilities. With 19 there are numerous permutations that could work.

15:4 or 14:5 or 14:4:1 or 13:4:1:1 or 13:3:3 or 12:3:3:1 or [etc]

i think jay is bad. i don't think there's an independent in this game and if there is, they aren't my threat which would mean they are either survival roles or a threat to the mafia team. does jay seem like he knows that from this analysis?

[VOTE: triple j] aubergine - what say you on this matter?

[dunya]

We’re all lined up at the starting line. and Dunya stars running the wrong way on the track and then Nutella runs into the stands and I’m just over here wondering what I missed.

Kites and Luna? Wat?

yeah? and? so? where's your vote mr. ofhearts2005?

On my suspect.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Why’s your vote, Miss Unya?

lacking oomph. daisy ain't getting lynched today. who's a suspect beyond daisy/juliets, jack?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack, give me a rainbow

Jack
Speed
Nova
Nutella
Dunya
Jay
DDL
Juliets
Daisy

Everyone else is meh.

speed your strongest town read? nah.

Yeah. He’s got the most townie tone I’ve ever seen from Speed and he was intoxicated for half of it.

Changemymind.jpg

[Jackofhearts2005]

We’re all lined up at the starting line. and Dunya stars running the wrong way on the track and then Nutella runs into the stands and I’m just over here wondering what I missed.

Kites and Luna? Wat?

yeah? and? so? where's your vote mr. ofhearts2005?

On my suspect.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Why’s your vote, Miss Unya?

lacking oomph. daisy ain't getting lynched today. who's a suspect beyond daisy/juliets, jack?

I’ve made a case. You’re voting Jay and lecturing me about who isn’t getting lynched today? Please.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i think jay is bad. i don't think there's an independent in this game and if there is, they aren't my threat which would mean they are either survival roles or a threat to the mafia team. does jay seem like he knows that from this analysis?

[VOTE: triple j] aubergine - what say you on this matter?

I say it sounds like an accusation that was derived at random. I have no idea what the setup is; that's the point. Trying to guess at it with so many plausible permutations isn't really an ideal enterprise.

What about those posts suggests to you that I know anything about that?

[dunya]

What about those posts suggests to you that I know anything about that?

you're not understanding me. i'm saying you don't and that's why i suspect you. you're pushing possible scenarios in your examples where an independent that could be a threat to town exists. i'm telling you there isn't one.

[novaselinenever]

What do you think this setup looks like?

Haven't the slightest clue. At 19, 15 vs 4 would be the closest to a raw balance. Independents change that though, as do the roles which could be anything. Who knows

What do you think this setup looks like?

Haven't the slightest clue. At 19, 15 vs 4 would be the closest to a raw balance. Independents change that though, as do the roles which could be anything. Who knows

I've seen you do more detailed analysis with similar levels of scarce info.

Though we did give you shit last time you did it so I get if you don't wanna do it again.

The issue is the number of players. It’s easier to guess how 12 players may be aligned, because there are only a small number of viable possibilities. With 19 there are numerous permutations that could work.

15:4 or 14:5 or 14:4:1 or 13:4:1:1 or 13:3:3 or 12:3:3:1 or [etc]

i think jay is bad. i don't think there's an independent in this game and if there is, they aren't my threat which would mean they are either survival roles or a threat to the mafia team. does jay seem like he knows that from this analysis?

[VOTE: triple j] aubergine - what say you on this matter?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What about those posts suggests to you that I know anything about that?

you're not understanding me. i'm saying you don't and that's why i suspect you. you're pushing possible scenarios in your examples where an independent that could be a threat to town exists. i'm telling you there isn't one.

You're right, I don't know shit about whether there are independents. I have no reason to believe there can't be threatening independents in this game. I am not privileged to that information. Why do you think what you think?

[Jackofhearts2005]

i hate jack's rainbow list and not because it lacked any colors, but because i don't actually believe he believes spacedaisy and juliets are his biggest scum reads in the game. even after he explained it to me like he was talking to an 8yr old.

moving jack down my rainbow.

Why don’t you believe me? It’s not rocket science. There’s a clear difference in how Daisy treats Mac and Juliets even though my post was about the two of them equally. She defends only Juliets even though she has Juliets down as scum. She doesn’t defend Mac even though she doesn’t have a scumread on him. Why is townDaisy defending her scumread?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay can I have an updated opinion on nutella please.

She and Lunalee remain my top suspects.

A bad thing about nutella at present is that she has seemed to lose some steam in her responsiveness to accusations now that they're coming from numerous directions. She was all fire and brimstone when it was just me, and she even said that about herself:

But I may need to revise my take on you if you are unwilling to change your mind. Usually town Jay calls me out for something, I respond with righteous rage, and he backs down saying I'm civilian because of my defense. But here you are refusing to see through to my town self. Take off the tinted glasses for five seconds or I'll assume they are glued to your face.

[dunya]

I am not privileged to that information. Why do you think what you think?

because i am privileged to know there aren't any. since i'm town, i'm gonna go on a limb and say you're not. fight me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am not privileged to that information. Why do you think what you think?

because i am privileged to know there aren't any. since i'm town, i'm gonna go on a limb and say you're not. fight me.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Oh I see what you mean, dunya. I didn't even notice it in the bloody thing; it's rarely so explicit.

Suspect me for that if you like, I really don't care.

15 vs. 4 then is my guess.

[dunya]

i hate jack's rainbow list and not because it lacked any colors, but because i don't actually believe he believes spacedaisy and juliets are his biggest scum reads in the game. even after he explained it to me like he was talking to an 8yr old.

moving jack down my rainbow.

Why don’t you believe me? It’s not rocket science. There’s a clear difference in how Daisy treats Mac and Juliets even though my post was about the two of them equally. She defends only Juliets even though she has Juliets down as scum. She doesn’t defend Mac even though she doesn’t have a scumread on him. Why is townDaisy defending her scumread?

actually, the hot take seemed like it was more about juliets. that's how i read it certainly. that's how daisy read it probably. i'm not bothered at all by her interpretation.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

ThReAtS tO tOwN

*spongebob meme*

[dunya]

Suspect me for that if you like, I really don't care.

k