Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[MacDougall]

Rondo I think has trended up for me.

why

[MacDougall]

Pretty fetch tho Dennis and Ender were both in my original incoherent POE so maybe we going good?

[MacDougall]

@Sabiplz why are you voting for Nutella?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.

hope you're doing ok my dude. Regardless of alignment I hope you enjoy the game

[MacDougall]

I think Rondo made a valid and townie point about Ender pushing him day 1 being towny for Ender I think i want to give them both town points for that.

[Cape90]

I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)

What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.

Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?

> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.

You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.

> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.

> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.

Also wanna bring this up

[nutella]

Like nobody has actually engaged me in any meaningful way. I've made a couple of light pushes and got omgussed by players that should know better than that. There seems to be no really coherent strategy to this day. The top posters are all players who aren't post count polarised so I can't base any read on that. The only empirical thing is probably that Porscha 2 posting is >rand mafia for her. Seanzie and Rondo not tilting me already might be indicative of them not being town maybe I guess? Lily and Neon seem okay? On the little I've read I would guess Sabi is more likely in their wolf meta? Lots of the scum solving going on just rings hollow or rand at best and I don't really have the energy to figure out much.

So all that to say, checks in the mail or something I'm gonna keep vibing. Where's @DrWilgy at.

i love u pain med mac

[MacDougall]

@hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply

[Cape90]

Rondo I think has trended up for me.

why

This site sucks on mobile so I will see you with a response in 3000 years

[Marmot]

I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.

why don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin mermac

I didn't ask someone to tell me where to vote. I am voting independently. I am just informing you all of my present state of being.

I know you weren't, I'm prodding you because I'm accustomed to you having strong reads, or at least having the appearance of having strong reads.

GL with your recovery though.

[MacDougall]

I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)

What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.

Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?

> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.

You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.

> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.

> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.

Also wanna bring this up

My first reaction to this is why is Golden asking rhetorical questions that have obvious answers lol

[MacDougall]

Rondo I think has trended up for me.

why

This site sucks on mobile so I will see you with a response in 3000 years

cant you just give me a low effort one?

[MacDougall]

I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.

why don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin mermac

I didn't ask someone to tell me where to vote. I am voting independently. I am just informing you all of my present state of being.

I know you weren't, I'm prodding you because I'm accustomed to you having strong reads, or at least having the appearance of having strong reads.

GL with your recovery though.

oh what this was was a "prod"?

felt more like some sort of fart or something

[falcon45ca]

Somebody shoot Porscha plz.

[Cape90]

I'm mixed on sig. Not my place to talk on this but it feels like he is hardly explaining things

[MacDougall]

@EnderWiggin which of your voters are mafia?

[Marmot]

I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.

why don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin mermac

I didn't ask someone to tell me where to vote. I am voting independently. I am just informing you all of my present state of being.

I know you weren't, I'm prodding you because I'm accustomed to you having strong reads, or at least having the appearance of having strong reads.

GL with your recovery though.

oh what this was was a "prod"?

felt more like some sort of fart or something

I literally copy-pasted it from your ISO.

[S~V~S]

Can someone summarize for me (and maybe all the other catcher uppers) why Dennis has six votes? Like a Cliffs notes lol

[MacDougall]

@falcon45ca why is dennis leading the votes?

[robyn]

@hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply

i don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummy

[MacDougall]

I am going to level with all of you. I have not a single read I care about defending the position on. This game is too large for me to care about and I'm recovering from surgery and high as hell on pain meds.

why don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin mermac

I didn't ask someone to tell me where to vote. I am voting independently. I am just informing you all of my present state of being.

I know you weren't, I'm prodding you because I'm accustomed to you having strong reads, or at least having the appearance of having strong reads.

GL with your recovery though.

oh what this was was a "prod"?

felt more like some sort of fart or something

I literally copy-pasted it from your ISO.

yeah i am aware of that, that's why it's a fart.. a prod would actually be something of value and you know, bother me... this just felt like you were trying to make me smell a fart and then laugh about it

[Cape90]

What do ppl think of Seanzie?

[MacDougall]

@hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply

i don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummy

what do you classify as the wagons?

[Cape90]

Rondo I think has trended up for me.

why

This site sucks on mobile so I will see you with a response in 3000 years

cant you just give me a low effort one?

I like their theatrical projection with some of their content output through skimming

[MacDougall]

Rondo I think has trended up for me.

why

This site sucks on mobile so I will see you with a response in 3000 years

cant you just give me a low effort one?

I like their theatrical projection with some of their content output through skimming

oh okay that's cool thanks mang

[Cape90]

What do you want me to respond to you about? I said my role, you said you'd elim it. Good for you. I'm not going into specifics for obvious reasons so...

Why Golden?

Because the disparity between Golden's desire to loudly announce how much they're townreading Kate and their desire to actually give reasons or do things that might convince people Kate is town is a large one.

See, thing is, this is originally why I also was suspicious of Golden. What do you think NOW though?

I have strong suspicions on Kate and would prefer to exe her first and go from there after seeing her align

Strong suspicions? Strong, already? You're reaching. Why is that?

I'm not acting weird for my civ game, you just don't know me.

You are acting a little weird, but you're in your town range imho. But I am not willing to defend you yet

Don't think rondo says this as mafia

[MacDougall]

I'm about to eat more pain meds and see if it gives me magical powers to solve the game.

[robyn]

@hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply

i don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummy

what do you classify as the wagons?

shite

[Cape90]

@hollowkatt @falcon45ca which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?

@Party Crasher @Neon which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?

@Sabiplz @EnderWiggin which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?

@Marmot @Guillotine which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?

Towny post on principal

[Cape90]

Creature
Dennis
ender
golden
iawy
sig

now humouring viable towncases on the above slots

Ill be honest, I have been mulling this over all day. If Ender is wolf he has put himself in a very difficult position. He either knows I am town and has steaked his reputation in this game on me being wolf and has to explain why he was wrong on his best read (he claims) or he has to backtrack a hard scum read as either a joke or fancy play syndrome. So either he is a wolf that has to slog through the game after eliminating me day 1 or he is town. Outside or fancy wolf play this is me humouring Mac with Ender town. I am still thinking it over myself

A long version of why I labeled EnderWiggin 3p this game

[Seanzie]

What do ppl think of Seanzie?

He's handsome.

[MacDougall]

@hollowkatt @Sloonei @lucy @Scotty @112 why are you all voting for whom you are please tag me when you reply

i don’t like any wagons and pyxxy seems scummy

what do you classify as the wagons?

shite

no i mean which wagons do you classify as the ones you don't like

[MacDougall]

damn it people don't give me half baked answers I don't have the energy, patience or tolerance for it I will just scumread you for being difficult

[Urist]

What do ppl think of Seanzie?

Dollar Store MacDougall

[Cape90]

I don't know how to feel about nutella putting me in poe when she hasn't tried to interact with me.

Her only reason because I made a comment about Michelle and she only jumped in it because of Rask which gives me Dena vu from the Halloween mash where she was wolfing and only kept me in poe without solving me because someone was pushing me.

Anyway throw nutella in scummy vibes

I feel like you're doing a very light OMGUS towards nutella for her list and if you want to sit on that sr for a bit I have no problem with that but I would need to see a more convincing case against nut to earn a D1 vote especially when I feel like you're extrapolating from "I don't like how nut is reading me (possibly because you know you're town)" to "list bad nut bad"

phew big sentence

This might be a good post but I don't get the townreads on pyxxy otherwise. Anyone wanna explain?

[Cape90]

What do ppl think of Seanzie?

Dollar Store MacDougall

He plays very different imo. At least this game

[MacDougall]

Okay it begins!

I believe @112 is probably town mostly because naked voting Alison which if they were mafia and Alison were mafia would be -ev to mafia wincon and if they were mafia and Alison is town would also be -ev to mafia wincon. Also I agree with them on Hollowkatt being town.

[MacDougall]

What do ppl think of Seanzie?

Dollar Store MacDougall

A dollar store me is still fabulous though right

[MacDougall]

Okay it begins!

I believe @112 is probably town mostly because naked voting Alison which if they were mafia and Alison were mafia would be -ev to mafia wincon and if they were mafia and Alison is town would also be -ev to mafia wincon. Also I agree with them on Hollowkatt being town.

@112 love me

[MacDougall]

I believe @Alison is town because their immediate reaction to Golden was reeee which was also my reaction and is a very towny reaction to Golden (saying nothing of Golden's alignment).

[Cape90]

I wish I could engage today in any meaningful way to the thread but I JUST had to travel and the wifi I have at place I stay at is sooooooo BAD. It is highly annoying to me

[Seanzie]

What do ppl think of Seanzie?

Dollar Store MacDougall

A dollar store me is still fabulous though right

I think so

[Creature]

Cool at least Mac is going by alphabetical order and I'm near the top of it

[MacDougall]

fake derp



knows too much




obv w/w theater gettem

You are wolf.

Too absolute too early

Oh man, is the OMGUS scummy?

Questions, questions

Take a stance. Do you think it’s scummy?

I’ll give you a question: do you think they wouldn’t have rhymed Birkenstocks and socks if they didn’t mean for them to go together?

I am NGL I cannot tell who is the wolf within this convo, but I feel like there is one

Odds are good. But you not identifying one and just casting a net on [1] of me, nutella and iawy actually makes me think one of those is a wolf and you are the other.

This is not a drill

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

you are being rather brazen so I thought it was you tbh

I'm gonna townread Scotty and Cape for this and Cape will get sus of me for it.

[Cape90]

I thought Sabi was in their wolf meta idk about now

[Cape90]

You are wolf.

Too absolute too early

Oh man, is the OMGUS scummy?

Questions, questions

Take a stance. Do you think it’s scummy?

I’ll give you a question: do you think they wouldn’t have rhymed Birkenstocks and socks if they didn’t mean for them to go together?

I am NGL I cannot tell who is the wolf within this convo, but I feel like there is one

Odds are good. But you not identifying one and just casting a net on [1] of me, nutella and iawy actually makes me think one of those is a wolf and you are the other.

This is not a drill

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

you are being rather brazen so I thought it was you tbh

I'm gonna townread Scotty and Cape for this and Cape will get sus of me for it.

Since I townread Scotty now, you get a pass

[DrWilgy]

Immediate vibe upon entering thread:
Voices for Alison W is interesting and of note. Validation on who has done this and why is needed.

I'm gut reading Creature as Wolfy.

Alison can you explain the Kate suspicion I just saw you voice? I will not be able to go back and find it this evening.

Wilgy have I ever told you that I love you?

Idk but ily2 Neon

[MacDougall]

I think @Creature is town because I think he sheeped me without saying he sheeped me which makes no sense for him to do as mafia but is something he does in every game as town.

[S~V~S]

What do ppl think of Seanzie?

I'm reading ISOs, and have only really encountered him so far in his back/forth with Alison, who I'm reading now.

My first experience with Sean was him (civ) tunnelling me (civ). I saw a little of that here, but he seems to have backed off. I haven't seen much else, and he begins with "S" so the odds of me seeing it soon are low unless he shows up tonight.

What do you think, since you're asking?

[DrWilgy]

Like nobody has actually engaged me in any meaningful way. I've made a couple of light pushes and got omgussed by players that should know better than that. There seems to be no really coherent strategy to this day. The top posters are all players who aren't post count polarised so I can't base any read on that. The only empirical thing is probably that Porscha 2 posting is >rand mafia for her. Seanzie and Rondo not tilting me already might be indicative of them not being town maybe I guess? Lily and Neon seem okay? On the little I've read I would guess Sabi is more likely in their wolf meta? Lots of the scum solving going on just rings hollow or rand at best and I don't really have the energy to figure out much.

So all that to say, checks in the mail or something I'm gonna keep vibing. Where's @DrWilgy at.

Busy. How's it going buddy?

Drove across Texas again today. Will likely read some of the thread after dinner.