Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[112]

yeah i was reading some MR posts after nightfall and he's p clearly wolfing imo

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[nutella]

I was grouping you with creature who I more firmly town read atp but despite your low content d1 I had the impression you were on your own doing what you wanted and waiting for the game to narrow down to solve more, like in SPL

I was only waiting in SPL because I was PR and wanted to not get killed early before I scouted.

Alright then if you're not intentionally laying low here then let's hear some spicy takes (other than me wolf)

I'mma just gonna stick with Nutella wolf.

I just skimmed your d1 iso and it's much less towny than I thought tbh wowee

Also you claimed the ilario shot, wanna talk about that?

Yeah, I shot Ilario. Might shoot you tonight.

That would be silly. I'm contributing to solving a hell of a lot more than you and am thread consensus town.

[nutella]

Actually think ilario would be a solid choice for mafia to want out of their way and him flipping 3p is convenient enough to claim

They also were clearly openwolfing... well I guess open 3ping.

I don't understand this pov but ok lol

[nutella]

yeah i was reading some MR posts after nightfall and he's p clearly wolfing imo

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

How so?

Anything to say about the points brought up re your compatibility with sabi?

[112]

I'd like people to actually read through Marmot, Radishes, SVS and 112s ISO and provide some thought on it. I can't make much of an argument for any of them not to be with Sabi except MR.

i mean, i am inside a mental health and substance use "healing centre" and have little computer access because a fellow resident heroically broke all of the computers in our unit, saving many.

i did not anticipate this would happen, but some things happen without prophecy.

[Master Radishes]

yeah i was reading some MR posts after nightfall and he's p clearly wolfing imo

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Oh okay.

[112]

yeah i was reading some MR posts after nightfall and he's p clearly wolfing imo

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

How so?

Anything to say about the points brought up re your compatibility with sabi?

could you link them? i haven't read a single sabi post this game.

[Guillotine]

If Inawy flips scum i actually look quite partnered too actually.

Wait so… hollowkatt would be clear then as Inawy pushed him bad with me.

derp clear denied

What you mean derp clear? Where?

Mac is very angry at… something. It’s not town win equity. It might be iawy being day shot.

I am very angry at the way that this game is being played and the fact that the minute that I attempted to start to create a new POE and ask for people's perspectives on it I have had to deal with baseless accusations and hysteria.

But I'm also, again, it's been 3 weeks since a solid meal, please be patient with me.

And finally I will add that iawy getting day shot was a good thing for my perspective on the game state.

What?

What did he flip?

tonally this reads awkward and fake asf to me

-t

That is your perception on a tone you think I'm using, pure speculation with no basis on facts.
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Yah, thanks.

[Seanzie]

Actually think ilario would be a solid choice for mafia to want out of their way and him flipping 3p is convenient enough to claim

They also were clearly openwolfing... well I guess open 3ping.

I don't understand this pov but ok lol

I mean, did you read their ISO?

[sig]

Damn I got distracted with work (how dare I’m forced to work on a work day) and I lost my post.

I’ve got pretty solid civ reads on: Golden, Allison, Nutella & Lucy. But I do think SVS point on Golden/Kate could have some merit.

/slight civ reads on:
Rondo
Gullio
Michelle
Neon
Urist

I’d not want to vote off this phase

Marmot
Scotty
Sloonie
Wilgy
Mac
Cap
Le petit (even though they voted for me)
TSP
Svs
Anyone that hasn’t posted

Prime eyeballing in order of most scumish

Dennis
Creature
Kate
TSP
Wilgy


I know the last two are on my not voting off list, so while I’m. Leery of them I’d not vote for them today.


Also honorary mention is Sabie. They’re here and very active, but not really contributing that much yet. They’re also not showcasing that normal townie indecisiveness I’d expect.

I'm sabi not sabie

You only played one game with me

Well shit, no wonder I was so confused that game.

I’m striking my Sabi read until further notice and dying from embarrassment instead

This feels like a fake derp because a) it was announced sabie is a mod in the game and b) you didn't have this issue in cartomacy

Sooooo hmmmm

it's only a fake derp if you're both mafia LOL
if he's mafia and you're town, there's no particular reason he should know who you are, and therefore no particular reason to fake the derp as mafia

I remembered this last night lol, pretty sure neither Sabi nor Sig responded to it

Like this and hated sig's catch up post (in which he defends 112 and pushes creature and scotty)

I don’t think I was pushing scotty tbh I’m just voicing my thoughts on the kill. And I’m pretty sure I defended him earlier for said kill as well. My main thing is end of the day I think the kill is NAI and at the same time im not gonna believe he just said what he said for shits and giggles.

112 hasn’t been around enough for a case but if that’s the move town wants to make im not gonna overly fight it.

Creature seems like mafia I stand by that one

[112]

yeah i was reading some MR posts after nightfall and he's p clearly wolfing imo

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Oh okay.

cheeky

[nutella]

Actually think ilario would be a solid choice for mafia to want out of their way and him flipping 3p is convenient enough to claim

They also were clearly openwolfing... well I guess open 3ping.

I don't understand this pov but ok lol

I mean, did you read their ISO?

I saw his posts. I don't think they were AI.

[sig]

Okay the next four I'd like to talk to ppl about are this four. Anyone wanna go the hard vouch?

hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig

I found this set much harder to rank. It's probably MR > sig > Marmot > HK right now, but I forget why I ended up with an HK town read. Did sabi spew?

Sig was a town read until that wilgy post, which I agreed with.

I think both you and wilgy are operating under an outdated meta read of me. This is Sig 2.0, I’m more jokey and fun less concerned with the day to day accusations.

Also there wasn’t much to respond to anyway from Wilgy.

In the last game I played with you, Guns Money etc... you were in high 'no u' mode because I suggested there was a chance you could have been faking being vowelised. So, I don't think I'm working to an outdated meta.

I’ll happily go back 2+ games and argue that this was in fact a justified no u and it was a mafia angle/style push

[112]

when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

[nutella]

Atp I think creature is the kind of slot that wolves perceive as pushable but is actually obvious town

[Guillotine]

i forgot guillotine hes scummy af. syn agrees. i got the feeling that he's aware of people being aware of his gimmick where he does his wild thing and gets in people's faces, and the way he did it felt awkward / posturing / theatrical to me. i felt like he's very aware of how he's going to be perceived as he was writing his posts. also about that derp clear - i felt the same. he kept talking about it and his "surprise" that iawy already flipped didnt feel legit to me. he was refreshing the page and answered to the first relevant post about someone asking him about it, he wanted to talk about it

-t

What gimmick? I don't use gimmicks... ok, that is a lie, the one gimmick i used was the one where I only posted images, either the kon the lion character or with memes.

The Guillotina is not a gimmick, it is me and well I haven't been much here, mostly due to demotivation, is not a derp attempt, it is what it is.

[Master Radishes]

when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

Scummy post bro.

[112]

Atp I think creature is the kind of slot that wolves perceive as pushable but is actually obvious town

maybe this but absolutely not? what if creature is actually on to something and so are you in an odd way only you have things sort of backwards?

[112]

the creature push*

[112]

when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

Scummy post bro.

not really, friendo.

[Master Radishes]

Atp I think creature is the kind of slot that wolves perceive as pushable but is actually obvious town

From the fairly little I've read (pretty much nothing D2) Creature feels normal to me. Like I don't know what scum Creature is like but I didn't see anything that pinged me.

[Master Radishes]

That was not a dank post but I'm powering up.

[Master Radishes]

when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

Scummy post bro.

not really, friendo.

Why'd you follow my vote D1?

[Guillotine]

@Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

[Golden]

Okay the next four I'd like to talk to ppl about are this four. Anyone wanna go the hard vouch?

hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig

I found this set much harder to rank. It's probably MR > sig > Marmot > HK right now, but I forget why I ended up with an HK town read. Did sabi spew?

Sig was a town read until that wilgy post, which I agreed with.

I think both you and wilgy are operating under an outdated meta read of me. This is Sig 2.0, I’m more jokey and fun less concerned with the day to day accusations.

Also there wasn’t much to respond to anyway from Wilgy.

In the last game I played with you, Guns Money etc... you were in high 'no u' mode because I suggested there was a chance you could have been faking being vowelised. So, I don't think I'm working to an outdated meta.

I’ll happily go back 2+ games and argue that this was in fact a justified no u and it was a mafia angle/style push

I would argue what you're describing is exactly what Wilgy described lol, but I was wolf so fair perspective.

[Creature]

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[Seanzie]

Actually think ilario would be a solid choice for mafia to want out of their way and him flipping 3p is convenient enough to claim

They also were clearly openwolfing... well I guess open 3ping.

I don't understand this pov but ok lol

I mean, did you read their ISO?

I saw his posts. I don't think they were AI.

Ilario was preemptively making excuses for why they might be alive lategame and why they weren't doung anything.

[Master Radishes]

Oh 112 is an actual wagon.


Maybe I can start there.

[Golden]

@Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[112]

when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

Scummy post bro.

not really, friendo.

Why'd you follow my vote D1?

I need to sheep someone -> MR is strong town and possible wolf -> he's not voting for the leading wagon but is voting for someone who could reasonably be chopped -> it therefore helps me solve MR if his vote flips -> idk something like this

[Master Radishes]

Oh wait is that off Sabi spew? I'm not ready for that yet.

I'll read her iso and post no conclusions instead.

[Dyslexicon]

POE

112
ender
golden
iawy
party crashers
sig

@sig if ur town can u do the things that make it obvious for me thx

I think PC's reaction to you at EoD is actually very towny if you think about it. I swear there was something else relating to claim business that also made them towny to me, but I can't find it.

[Golden]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

SVS, 112 and Marmot have all been cased in the last few pages. Marmot is the best case, SVS and 112 have the most votes.

[Master Radishes]

when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

Scummy post bro.

not really, friendo.

Why'd you follow my vote D1?

I need to sheep someone -> MR is strong town and possible wolf -> he's not voting for the leading wagon but is voting for someone who could reasonably be chopped -> it therefore helps me solve MR if his vote flips -> idk something like this

Damn that makes some amount of sense.

But I haven't been strong town in about two years tbh.

[Guillotine]

@Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Have you had other games with Mac? Do you have experience with him?

[Golden]

@Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Have you had other games with Mac? Do you have experience with him?

Many

[Alison]

The POE turning on each other immediately (SVS scumreading Marmot, 112 and MR getting into a fight) is extremely funny

[Master Radishes]

The POE turning on each other immediately (SVS scumreading Marmot, 112 and MR getting into a fight) is extremely funny

The fact you think this is a fight is extremely funny mildly amusing.

[Guillotine]

@Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Have you had other games with Mac? Do you have experience with him?

Many

Ok so you townread Mac right?

[Golden]

@Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Have you had other games with Mac? Do you have experience with him?

Many

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

[Guillotine]

@Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Have you had other games with Mac? Do you have experience with him?

Many

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

[Golden]

@Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Have you had other games with Mac? Do you have experience with him?

Many

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

[Alison]

The POE turning on each other immediately (SVS scumreading Marmot, 112 and MR getting into a fight) is extremely funny

The fact you think this is a fight is extremely funny mildly amusing.

112 called you mafia and then you caleld their post scummy and started interrogating them about their D1 votes

What I mean is that the members of the POE seem more concerned with getting another member of the POE killed over them rather than complaining about how the POE itself sucks, which suggests it isn't entirely off the mark.

[Guillotine]

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Have you had other games with Mac? Do you have experience with him?

Many

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

[Creature]

The POE turning on each other immediately (SVS scumreading Marmot, 112 and MR getting into a fight) is extremely funny

It would be extremely funny if this message was meant to be sent in the wolfchat.

[Golden]

Have you had other games with Mac? Do you have experience with him?

Many

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

[Golden]

Guillo why so bothered that I DON'T sus you?

[Golden]

Alison is growing on me a little bit

Note this from day one Guillo. I had an early wolf read on Alison. It changed as I watched her play. She wanted to vig me but she always came back to knowing she needed to use it in a town-leaning way and shooting me wasn't it.

[Dyslexicon]

Scotty looks real bad atm

Funny thing is I saw a connection between Sabi/IAWY/Scotty when I read over stuff in the night to the point where I couldn't see anything else. Sabi/IAWY had interaction that looked very teammate-y imo, but there you go, lol mafia game. Anyway, the shot isn't bad, but very easy to make as mafia.