Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Kate]

Someone pick a name for me to put my vote on, please.

pedro

Gosh

What the heck would you do in that situation?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Be neon

Kill the only wolf that's died this game

Claim the kill

Be called a wolf by half the game

nah you're one on my lock town. I was just entertaining you as a wolf for a moment. Sorry if it hurt your feelers

It doesn't hurt my feelings it's just frustrating because I get defensive and can't focus on other things

Its part of my process to throw people into wolf worlds. Its not intentionally trying to tilt you. Its trying to make sense of a senseless world

That's fine play your game don't worry about me being stupid lol.

I want everyone to just play their game their way.

[Kate]

Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

I thought about it and I don’t think so.

I’m operating under the assumption there’s only one.

The flavor of that role could literally be a meme. Or that sabi was the one responsible for the soup kill. But I could be wrong.

Oooo it’s the name of the role yeah. Lol. Ok never mind I’m a dummy.

I also thought it meant 2 mafia. For example, soup mafia and salad mafia.

[Seanzie]

What's the difference between a cat and a comma?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

neon town too, especially if she's serious abt her softing a porscha kill inc

Wait her claim is the vig shot that she's been threatening me with for most of today.

How does that relate to what I said about Porscha?

oh lol I just saw this post in sabi's iso

mafia knew damn well that neon was gonna shoot sabi and couldn't do anything about it

@Party Crasher @nutella y'all are bad mafia doesn't even have a blocker or they'd have used it on neon

I actually don't think they believed me at all. I was very loud about it and also changed my mind on if I was actually gonna shoot Sabi multiple times.

[Kate]

With this wording, could it just be possible that the mafia team is just the soup mafia, and any lost mafia are.,,the other ‘team’?

Blech. I’m back to thinking it might just be one team in the know.

Yes. It can be two teams. But it can be one, too.

Hey Sloonei, wanna..

*takes off glasses and throws cleats over shoulder*

.,Join my baseball team?

What position will I play?

Jose Conseco

I wanna be Wade Boggs.

I wanna be Yaz!!

[Kate]

112
Alison
Dyslexicon
Guillotine
Kate
Nutella
Party Crasher
S~V~S
Seanzie
Sloonei

I would much appreciate anyone who townreads the above names giving light to why. I have no interest in "vibes" or other such answers. I want real tangible line in the sand answers please. Or if you are in this list, please show me where you think you've been town.

Guillo for the attack on HK (fake-able but still. )
Party because Zeus pocketed me (i thought he wants to sokve) however the others heads of the hydra are wolfy

I kind of vibed with Dizzy's catch up so i think he posted some towny thoughts
I thought Kate claiming vanilla was townie. I think now it could be a derp attempt. I am not ready to make a read though because i have to read the Iso

What is a derp attempt?

[nutella]

Friendos give marmot another day pls.

[nutella]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine for now.

I'll be back closer to EOD.


I gave nutella a magical item last night, ask her about it.

It's extremely lovely

[Kate]

I'm on page 104 and am falling asleep. Can someone do me a solid and point me to where yall started voting Marmot??

[Seanzie]

Friendos give marmot another day pls.

Ehh...

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine for now.

I'll be back closer to EOD.


I gave nutella a magical item last night, ask her about it.

ok so like. Was this a continuation vote from D1 because I called you a groundhog?

And I’m sure whatever magical items you and Nutella shared at night can remain a mystery as far as I’m concerned

[nutella]

What's the difference between a cat and a comma?

Clause

[Seanzie]

What's the difference between a cat and a comma?

Clause

You're halfway there.

[Creature]

Alright Kate's ISO feels a lot more LAMIST than actual solving and this is making me worried.

What's LAMIST?

Also, I'm way behind...had no time really today and when I logged on now I had almost 40 pages to read. My vote is still on a dead player.

"Look At Me I'm So Townie", it's a read I've never seen to actually indicate AI behavior.

LAMIST is indeed not necessarily wolfy but when your posts are majorly LAMIST and almost no solving then it is wolfy.

[Seanzie]

What's the difference between a cat and a comma?

Clause

You're halfway there.

This joke is how I pick up people on dating apps, so it's a good one (or I'm bad at dating).

[Creature]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

[Kate]

Alright Kate's ISO feels a lot more LAMIST than actual solving and this is making me worried.

What's LAMIST?

Also, I'm way behind...had no time really today and when I logged on now I had almost 40 pages to read. My vote is still on a dead player.

"Look At Me I'm So Townie", it's a read I've never seen to actually indicate AI behavior.

LAMIST is indeed not necessarily wolfy but when your posts are majorly LAMIST and almost no solving then it is wolfy.

Thank you!

[nutella]

Friendos give marmot another day pls.

@MacDougall @Alison @S~V~S @Scotty @Golden @Party Crasher @Michelle @Sloonei

Please, it's clear they simply didn't have time today and will participate in earnest when they can, and I do believe they are likely just town and will be very helpful when available. Let's get Seanzie today, the fact no one is following me there despite nothing about him looking town just makes me more confident

[nutella]

If we kill marmot and theyre town it would be so fucking bad and cringe bc they are a beast when they can get into solving so let us give them space to do so when IRL isn't in the way

[nutella]

Seanzie is clearly a hit for ~threadstate~ reasons

[Kate]

Guillo, apologies for being over-salty... but really, like... I think Alison is town because she is putting in masses of effort to solve the game. It's that simple.

Are you hard core sure there is only one mafia though? It's easy (well easier) to look town hunty when there's another team to target. Lots of players for there to only be one team but that might me my OS mind.

[Kate]

@Kate I encourage you to engage with that same range of pages (around the 110-112 mark) and develop your thoughts around that stuff too.

Thanks G

[Alison]

Tbh I keep forgetting falcon is in the game. Maybe a similar drop-off concern there where I thought he had enough towny moments d1 but isn't keeping it up

As the resident falcon godreader I still think he is town

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

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[Alison]

You know what annoys me? It's that a bunch of players who have the capacity to be loud, obvious, extremely solvey town have decided this game to not do much. I don't think they're all mafia so some of them are just being lazy town, and I guess real life is a thing and I've done that as town before too but it is annoying that there happen to be so many this game.

Examples include Dizzy, Ender, Seanzie, Sloonei.

I don't think this is fully fair. I have literally used my entire free time this night reading up on 40 pages of mafia. I think I'm contributing to a satisfactory degree. It's unfortunate that phase changes happens right when I've just fallen asleep, which means I will fall way behind and play catchup. Not that it's anyone's fault, also not mine.

You can un-ironically lock town me because I'm incapable of mid-posting as mafia.

Your content post catchup has been fine. I am not willing to towncore you but I would never vote you out over a slot like Marmot or SVS at this point.

[Alison]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

I think he is cleared off Sabi spew and his latest posts seem like standard town Seanzie. Don't know what he gains as mafia from that weird push on you.

[Kate]

But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.

Scotty IS so cute for sure, but I feel the opposite. His behavior doesn't seem to be regular scotty behavior. I wish I had read more so I could better express my feelings.

[MacDougall]

Seanzie is clearly a hit for ~threadstate~ reasons

My dear Nutella. Wonderful player that you are. If you believe this, help me FEEL that you do. I'm not feeling the fire behind this read. It just feels like very low effort shade, an attempt to persuade the inattentive masses to vote wantonly for a player without really offering any stakes. Do this for me and I may consider voting there.

[Alison]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

He has a wonderful beard.

Idk, I kind of think he's town. I've been right on him in about every game we've played, but I also have never actually played a game where he was mafia. I don't think him being off-beat is wolfy for him.

My expectation is that by now Town Seanzie would have 1 to 2 pet wolfreads he's aggressively pursuing while nobody pays attention which actively discourages him from playing democratically. I don't think Seanzie is trying to solve the game or using his full town process in this game and that makes him lean wolf. Not lock wolf cuz he might just not give a fuck, but I can't townread him for it.

I actually read the push on nutella as being his pet wolfread.

[Scotty]

Friendos give marmot another day pls.

@MacDougall @Alison @S~V~S @Scotty @Golden @Party Crasher @Michelle @Sloonei

Please, it's clear they simply didn't have time today and will participate in earnest when they can, and I do believe they are likely just town and will be very helpful when available. Let's get Seanzie today, the fact no one is following me there despite nothing about him looking town just makes me more confident

I mean…why is marmot likely town? Why the sudden switch?

Listen, I understand as much as anyone the unfairness of not having enough time to defend yourself, but it happens.

I’m not averse to switching I’m just wondering who raised the jolly roger

[MacDougall]

But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.

Scotty IS so cute for sure, but I feel the opposite. His behavior doesn't seem to be regular scotty behavior. I wish I had read more so I could better express my feelings.

In this game Scotty is the mafia player personification of this gif.



I am actually not sure what that means for his alignment.

[Scotty]

If we kill marmot and theyre town it would be so fucking bad and cringe bc they are a beast when they can get into solving so let us give them space to do so when IRL isn't in the way

Counterpoint- a lot of people are beast when they’re town too.

But I’m not leading the charge

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[MacDougall]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

He has a wonderful beard.

Idk, I kind of think he's town. I've been right on him in about every game we've played, but I also have never actually played a game where he was mafia. I don't think him being off-beat is wolfy for him.

My expectation is that by now Town Seanzie would have 1 to 2 pet wolfreads he's aggressively pursuing while nobody pays attention which actively discourages him from playing democratically. I don't think Seanzie is trying to solve the game or using his full town process in this game and that makes him lean wolf. Not lock wolf cuz he might just not give a fuck, but I can't townread him for it.

I actually read the push on nutella as being his pet wolfread.

Given that I have been in the thread with Seanzie several times and have not even felt remotely like he's persuading me to suspect her I don't feel his desire is strong enough to apply to the type of "pet read" I mean.

[Scotty]

Vote count as of ~21 hours left in D2:

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112
0
No votes
Voters: None
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Golden
1
3%
Voters: Guillotine
Guillotine
0
No votes
Voters: None
hollowkatt
0
No votes
Voters: None
Inawordyes
1
3%
Voters: Kate
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lilypetal
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
1
3%
Voters: Inawordyes
Marmot
7
19%
Voters: MacDougall, Golden, S~V~S, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Michelle, Alison
master radishes
2
6%
Voters: 112, Urist
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Neon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Nutella
1
3%
Voters: Seanzie
Party Crasher
0
No votes
Voters: None
Porscha
1
3%
Voters: falcon45ca
RondoDimBuckle
2
6%
Voters: EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon
S~V~S
2
6%
Voters: sig, Neon
Scotty
3
8%
Voters: hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot
Seanzie
3
8%
Voters: nutella, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
sig
1
3%
Voters: DrWilgy
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Urist
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote/unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sleep
0
No votes
Voters: None

[Alison]

I’m just saying the POE being thrown around don’t make much sense and are filled with low hanging fruit so someone pushing said POE is mafia

Do you have an actual idea who it is or are you just shading the POE without giving reasons why

[Scotty]

But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.

Scotty IS so cute for sure, but I feel the opposite. His behavior doesn't seem to be regular scotty behavior. I wish I had read more so I could better express my feelings.

*tap tap tap*

Go on..

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: svs] aubergine

Another dazzlingly uninformed vote.

[MacDougall]

Nutella's defense of Marmot is fine and makes sense but I don't love how she's flinging random shade at players like Seanzie and Falcon while trying to kill the wagon.

The posts Marmot made to defend himself are not out of his range and don't undo what made him suspicious.

[Urist]

What's the difference between a cat and a comma?

A comma separates independent and dependent clauses, whereas a cat separates your skin from your face with its clawses

[Scotty]

Nutella's defense of Marmot is fine and makes sense but I don't love how she's flinging random shade at players like Seanzie and Falcon while trying to kill the wagon.

The posts Marmot made to defend himself are not out of his range and don't undo what made him suspicious.

Yeaha

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I’m a smurf

[Scotty]

I’m also down for SVS today too tho

[Alison]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine for now.

I'll be back closer to EOD.


I gave nutella a magical item last night, ask her about it.

It's extremely lovely

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

[Alison]

My catchup was long and boring and largely skimmed. My main conclusion is that I no longer have a townread on Rondo because it is starting to feel like he is not just causing chaos to be a goblin but instead using it as a strategic lever to undermine a POE I believe in. And honestly even if he is town he's kinda a liability to town cohesion. Attacking Mac for agreeing with Dizzy's reads makes very little sense to me and felt more like a forcible attempt to shove Dizzy back in the POE than an actual read on Mac.

[Urist]

Marmot exe is lacklustre. Rask had marmot as his top town, why would mafia kill someone who reads them as top town? Rask baaaarely pushed Sabi (at least, he didn't push Sabi more than I or mac did), so I doubt that's the reason.

[Alison]

Nutella's defense of Marmot is fine and makes sense but I don't love how she's flinging random shade at players like Seanzie and Falcon while trying to kill the wagon.

The posts Marmot made to defend himself are not out of his range and don't undo what made him suspicious.

I don't think Marmot's defense was convincing at all but nutella has essentially claimed that he gave her a beneficial item. She hasn't said what it is but if its nature makes her strongly flip around on Marmot I'm willing to take that on faith and pursue other members of the POE who have nothing at all going for them. Such as SVS and 112.

[Kate]

But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.

Scotty IS so cute for sure, but I feel the opposite. His behavior doesn't seem to be regular scotty behavior. I wish I had read more so I could better express my feelings.

*tap tap tap*

Go on..

Still reading.

[nutella]

Seanzie is clearly a hit for ~threadstate~ reasons

My dear Nutella. Wonderful player that you are. If you believe this, help me FEEL that you do. I'm not feeling the fire behind this read. It just feels like very low effort shade, an attempt to persuade the inattentive masses to vote wantonly for a player without really offering any stakes. Do this for me and I may consider voting there.

His responses to me were all shit. His iso is vacant of anything good. He shot ilario which could easily be a wolf motivated shot and there's already a lot of town kp. He has not contributed to solving in earnest. Many have lightly agreed with my concern about him and yet nobody will wagon there. Why is it so hard to gain momentum on this push. Because he's actual mafia and people would rather go along with the big wagon on marmot who is just busy and can solve like a beast when they have time.

[MacDougall]

Thats valid Alison.

I also have similar feelings towards Rondo as you.

[nutella]

Like actually open up Sean's iso and view that it is shit.