Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[falcon45ca]

In the night!

@Alison dies and flips SOUP MAFIA
@Creature dies and flips TOWN
@nutella dies and flips TOWN


Alison:

**Vanilla Soup**

Vanilla soup? Yuck. Anyways you have no powers, good luck good luck.

Creature:

**American Townie:**

You're a vanilla town, but with a gun. A gun that you have to use. Why else would you have a gun, if not to use it? That would be silly. Anyways, if you receive more than one vote during the day, the following night you MUST shoot someone who voted for you. Only eod votes are counted for the purposes of this role.

Example: on D2 you are voted by fingers, sabie, and nanook. On n2 you must choose to shoot one of those three.

Nutella:

You signed up for a mafia game, but now you also get to play DnD! Kind of!! Yay!!!

Here's a server: redacted lol

Please note that your fellow DnD players are NOT guaranteed to be town.

Please check the announcements channel on discord for an event announcement, coming shortly.

Day will end February 24 7pm Eastern

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@ 112
@ DrWilgy
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Golden
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ Kate
@ Lilypetal
@ MacDougall
@ Marmot
@ master radishes
@ Michelle
@ Neon
@ Party Crasher
@ Porscha
@ RondoDimBuckle
@ S~V~S
@ Scotty
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ Urist
[/mention]

@MacDougall @Guillotine

[MacDougall]

@Scotty @Michelle @Party Crasher don't vote me find wolves.

Don't worry about voting me today let's just try to win the game.

[falcon45ca]

Oh fuck never mind. Everything I said about Guillo is wrong. Creature flipped with my other role. Guillo can die fuck it.

His reaction to your claim still sounds like town w/ the role. I mean, how risky a play is that for Maf to make to try and push you?

[MacDougall]

Oh fuck never mind. Everything I said about Guillo is wrong. Creature flipped with my other role. Guillo can die fuck it.

He still claimed and his reaction is still the same. So, tell me, where's your head currently at on that.

Hmm maybe there's another kiwi townie still in the game too?

I dunno it feels like there would be the same number of Kiwi and American townies ... maybe that's arbitrary tho.

[MacDougall]

Oh fuck never mind. Everything I said about Guillo is wrong. Creature flipped with my other role. Guillo can die fuck it.

His reaction to your claim still sounds like town w/ the role. I mean, how risky a play is that for Maf to make to try and push you?

True. Also if he 0 posts well... he's just getting replaced or mod killed right?

Part of me just wants to like... clean out the game if slots who've had wagons and not died. It gives us better data points. Flipping the likes of Scotty, Rondo, SVS, Marmot... Even though I have townreads in here feels +ev for town given the gamestate.

[Golden]

Oh fuck never mind. Everything I said about Guillo is wrong. Creature flipped with my other role. Guillo can die fuck it.

He still claimed and his reaction is still the same. So, tell me, where's your head currently at on that.

Hmm maybe there's another kiwi townie still in the game too?

I dunno it feels like there would be the same number of Kiwi and American townies ... maybe that's arbitrary tho.

I still tinfoil that he might be wolf thinking multiball. Anyway, I think in a minute I'm gonna do a bit of a different kind of rainbow list to usual.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

We're gonna make sure we get more votes on the real wagon (whoever that is) today, right?

[Sloonei]

I don't feel like Party Crasher needs to be on Mac.

[MacDougall]

I am the true champion for my horse img

So 112 popped in to say this and nothing else.

I don't love it.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

We're gonna make sure we get more votes on the real wagon (whoever that is) today, right?

Please stop voting for me when I keep telling people not to. I am sick of writing posts that simply do not get read.

[Urist]

End of Day 2 vote progression

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11:00
RondoDimBuckle (5) - falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (5) - Golden, Alison, sig, Sloonei, Scotty
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (5) - nutella, Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, MacDougall

12:30
RondoDimBuckle (7) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, nutella, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (5) - Golden, Alison, sig, Scotty, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (5) - Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, Lilypetal, MacDougall

14:30
RondoDimBuckle (6) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (4) - Golden, sig, Scotty, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (7) - nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Michelle, Lilypetal, MacDougall

16:30
RondoDimBuckle (8) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Golden, Seanzie, MacDougall, Scotty, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (3) - Urist, sig, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (7) - Dyslexicon, nutella, Neon, Alison, Michelle, Lilypetal, Porscha

17:00
RondoDimBuckle (7) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Scotty, Michelle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (7) - RondoDimBuckle, Urist, Seanzie, Creature, sig, Golden, Kate
Scotty (2) - hollowkatt, Marmot
Seanzie (7) - Master Radishes, nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha

19:00 EOD
Seanzie (10) - Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle (6) - Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot (4) - MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S (2) - sig, Golden
Scotty (2) - hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden (1) - Guillotine
MacDougall (1) - S~V~S
sig (1) - DrWilgy

For the purposes of this analysis, I'm going to disregard the fact that there is at least one mod squad still in the mix, and I'll refer to all non-mafia factions as "town". The only thing I can determine from this with regards to the mod squad is that Scotty is almost certainly not mod squad.

I'm going to assume that the 11:00 wagon on Seanzie is all town (Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, MacDougall). The wagon had traction, and I think it'd be a pretty risky play to bus in this situation to bus that early when there were plenty of other viable options.
Then, I'm going to assume that Lilypetal and Porscha are town for being on Seanzie at 17:00. I'd have a hard time believing that there were more than two mafia on Seanzie when the wagons were 7-7-7.
I'll also assume that Marmot is town, because Radishes switched off Seanzie and onto Marmot, trying to get a last-minute wagon there.
For all of these assumptions, I've coloured the names in dark green above. I believe that these are pretty safe assumptions.

Now let's try some more contrived assumptions. These I'll colour blue. I'm not totally comfortable with these, but without them I'm unable to make a decision on whom to vote.
I'll assume that the people who joined the wagon on Seanzie late are town. This includes Party Crasher, Kate, and falcon. These were people who were voting for Rondo or SVS when the wagons were 7-7-7. I don't know the timing of these votes so it's difficult to tell whether they were a last-minute bus to get on the wagon once the yeet was already decided.
I'll assume that sig is town for claiming the kill on Alison, because there's no reason to assume he'd do that as mafia.
I'm going to assume that Rondo is town, because two mafiosi bussed their vig and I don't see why they'd bus their vig over some other role (whatever Rondo is).

With these assumptions, I feel confident placing a vote on Scotty. It doesn't make sense to me that no mafia would ever vote for Scotty, if he were town. Especially since Radishes was looking for an alternative to Seanzie at EoD, I don't see why he'd choose Marmot over Scotty if Scotty is town. I also believe that at least one of the Rondo voters at 17:00 has to be mafia, given that there were two people on Seanzie at that time.

If Scotty is town, then I think that Party Crasher is mafia, for the same reasons I mentioned above: I don't believe there would be 0 mafia voting for Scotty, and I think that there would be at least one mafia voting for Rondo at 17:00.

[MacDougall]

Find the mafia and vote them out. Don't worry about voting me it's needless wifom at this point. We are winning without it.

[MacDougall]

@Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?

[MacDougall]

@Urist so you're saying you have PC and Scotty as different basically?

[MacDougall]

Also why didn't you colour yourself green lol.

[Urist]

@Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?

Golden is saying that he redirected actions from himself to Alison.
Seems unlikely that sig would know right away to claim the kill on Alison thoughhh

[MacDougall]

@Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?

Golden is saying that he redirected actions from himself to Alison.
Seems unlikely that sig would know right away to claim the kill on Alison thoughhh

Hmmm well given Alison and Golden were in a hood the mafia would have known that also so if he shot Golden and Alison died it's perhaps not a difficult conclusion to draw.

But yes I guess it's risky in case it turns out you just got blocked or Golden protected and someone else killed Alison.

[Urist]

@Urist so you're saying you have PC and Scotty as different basically?

Yes.
And I didn't colour myself green because I want other people to be able to use the analysis and follow it from their PoV.

[MacDougall]

I am starting to feel like resolving Rondo now is optimal even though I think he's town because his play is making me nervous that he's trying to buy time to achieve a wincon like a full soup or something. Which may explain why I'm still alive as I've claimed already and they can just soup me at any point.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

We're gonna make sure we get more votes on the real wagon (whoever that is) today, right?

Please stop voting for me when I keep telling people not to. I am sick of writing posts that simply do not get read.

I was told earlier that I should.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine for saying that.

[Sloonei]

I am just here to do as I'm told.

[Scotty]

Ok I finally perused falcon’s ISO in regards to sabi, Alison and MR. Here’s the summary of posts and my takeaways below:

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Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

It was a joke post

Then why wasn't it funny?

There wasn't one LOL, not even a chuckle, nor a giggle

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Falcon almost all 10 of my games in syndicate you played with me lol

If you can't read me atp idk what to tell u

I believe in the power of change

I AM NOW VOLUME CLEARED.



20 POSTS SON, HAS IT EVAH BEEN DONE SO SOON?

If this is you trying to mimic sabis post you need to move on

Surrounding your focus on one post is just not gonna work

What if it's not?

Falcon y u so obsessed with me?

Y U obsessed with my obsessions?

I would prefer to exe Golden and not shoot him. My gun is a funky kind.

I'd elim this.

Why? You don't like guns, or is it funk ya got qualms with?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

MR stealin' my hmmmmmmms.




Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

MR bustin' out curse words?




Maf

I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

I nominate Porscha

I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

I nominate Porscha

I wouldn't shoot Porscha cause it would be a waste

What makes you say that?

Porscha is already dead she just doesn't know it yet

I mean we're all gonna die one day.

Stop reading Sylvia Plath before you Maf, it's depressing

Day 2:

[VOTE: master turnip] aubergine

Scotty is town and Kate is town

This is why you're my favorite. Scotty was challenging your top spot, but he blew it now.

Vote Kate? For realzies??

This is a disproportionate level of salt when you have 0 votes on you and the game is 4 hours in.

Calling "realzies??" a disproportionate level of salt is making mountains of molehills.




I don't think realzies is ever actually salt, I mean it's spelt with the letter z. This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured

ehhhh

dial down all the sabi spew analysis I made by like 50%

I think they're still broadly valid but if sabi knew neon had a gun pointed at their head they'd be watching their words and might even be in anti spew mode

Hmmmmmm...




Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"

I actually wanted to come into D2, if alive, ready to play properly for once. That has not happened.

You had some pep D1...who took the jelly out of your donut?

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

Sounds like NAI behaviour :wowee:

This is wolfy.

Agreed.

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe

Then his next post:

Why isn't Porscha a wagon?




[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

And the wolfy things about him vastly, vastly, vastly outweigh that one little thing

Could you highlight these wolfy traits? I've found his great to be lacking the solve quality I normally associate w/ his town game, what are you seeing?

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

Hmm, maybe, though I do try to avoid drugging my wife usually.

OK, thats very reasonable, commendable and certainly ethical, but...



Wouldn'st thou like to live deliciously?

[VOTE: sean] aubergine

Day 3:

[VOTE: rottenradish] aubergine

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

Pimm's is a summer drink you peasant.

That's not a denial

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Legacies are stupid and I never read anyone's so no one should read mine.

Nothing I have to say should really be taken as valuable anyway. I'm pretty out of sync. Also on phone and not gonna type up an essay here.

I don't, as a rule, like essay's in Maf. Just a blurb or two. Some small scrap of info that might help us solve.




But, seeing as you're unwilling to do that, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be VK'd. You literally just outlined why you should be pew pewed.





Oh, and it is inherently in Maf's best interest to give as little info as possible while in the POE, so even if you're town, you're Maf siding

To start, falcon has been off and on suspicious of all 4 soup mafia at various points in the game.

However.

His suspicion on D1 for Alison and sabi is softballing it at best. He had a back and forth with sabi for like 4 posts which prompted Sabi to question why he was so ‘obsessed’ with them. Maybe a bit of an overreaction on their part. But sure.

We never circle back on sabi or Alison however. Falcon does call them both ‘wolf’ with a certain air of jokiness D1. But there is never developed reads, and he freely pivots to voting elsewhere throughout the day.

D2 is marginally better. The posts they stand out positively:
“ This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured”
“ Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"”
RE: Seanzie: “I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe”

As far as actually voting, I can’t pinpoint vote totals, but when he names his votes, he never actually votes for any of the soup mafia except MR beginning of D2, Seanzie end of D2, and MR again at top of today. MR is an undeveloped read that I don’t think had any traction to begin with. His continuation of MR today before being shot is likewise pretty shruggy and not built on anything stable.
Almost all his posts with Seanzie are joking or bouncing off ideas. It wasn’t until someone asked him about Seanzie that he admitted his posts look safe. And he only added on to the Seanzie wagon in the last 40 minutes of D2, so cred there is inconsequential.

I think the most bizarre progression in his iso is his light pressing of MR on both D2 and D3, never developing, and then immediately pivoting to an alternative for possible vig shots in Porscha on D2 and 112 on D3 for inactivity. Those seem to come out of nowhere, and the only time he talks about MR getting vig’d is when others have brought up the possibility.

Conclusion; i lean soup mafia partner. I don’t think I’m confbiasing- I picked falcon to read through because no one is really talking about him and I don’t remember his presence in the game. I think he is wholly compatible with the soup mafia and I’d vote there at the present based on my full perusal of his ISO. There is nothing clearing ISO-wise with the revealed mafia members.

[MacDougall]

Good case bruh

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

[Golden]

Haven't fully caught up on the overnight pages. I tried reading them when one of my kids woke up and couldn't really take any of it in except the flip, so... I'll do that later.

But I think it's time for me to do a list. This is not a rainbow list in how much I townread or wolfread each person. I've townread at least everyone left for some of the time. It's a rainbow list on how good or bad I think my reasons for reading people town are. So, for example, if I don't really trust someone but the reason I don't trust them is tinfoil and there's good evidence they're town, they're higher here. For people where I think the evidence needs reexamination and might not be so crash hot, they're lower.

Tell me if you think I've missed anything big in the analysis.

Tier 1 - the evidence for town is strong imo

DrWilgy - his approach that ended with the MR shot was towny af
Mac - has been working his ass off for town win, besides that his constant paranoia of his own reads even when he has really got a good basis for them feels very town mac
Neon - Shot sabi, claimed first. No way in a sea of six she claims that so quickly if it's redirected. And it was a hero shot imo.
PC - mechanically everything about this lot, including the role claim, feel absolutely ironclad. And in my view tutuu is putting in serious solving work. All the sus here is because of the shifty nature of having hydra members who are shitposting it up imo.

Tier 2- the evidence for town is good, but not waterproof

Dizzy - One of the solviest in the game. Analysed their shot well, even if it hit 3p not mafia.
Falcon - spew clear takes are good, and while he gets lost in the shuffle he comes out making good points that aren't made by others
Kate - multiple wolves aimed for kate to be lhf and got remarkably frustrated at my shielding over a significantly long period of time. Did not feel like bussing.
sig - Probably shot Alison, my own mechanical 'sig could have shot me and be lying about it' is what keeps him from top slot
Porscha - along with kate, up there as one of the best cases for 'interactions with wolves really do clear' in my mind.

Tier 3 - The evidence for town is there, but there's counterpoints I can't ignore

Rondo - Rondo is high contributing, could say high wim. I think there are good reasons to conclude from d2 analysis that he's clean, but there's also counterpoints there like the attempted counterwagon to marmot rather than just pushing rondo over seanzie. Also, he's being rondo, which inherently brings a lot of ambiguity (perhaps deliberate ambiguity). I feel like rondo being in this tier is probably due to deliberate action on rondo's part.
Scotty - There is a lot of interaction clearing for scotty that rings true to me. There was a counterpoint I noticed in my chat with alison, and that someone else (rondo?) also noticed and pointed out. Alison didn't want me to bring scotty into the neighbourhood, really the only person she pushed me off of my options. It makes sense that she would want me to suggest someone she could kill, in preference to someone she couldn't (ie a teammate).
sloonei - jumps in with astute wise old tortoise points from time to time. But there's nothing truly clearing there.

Tier 4 - The evidence for town isn't there imo, but there's a counterpoint that might actually be correct

112 - Nothing there to speak to towniness at all, there are some minimal interactions which could be read as clearing.
Ender - Role claim could be any alignment, scotty and Wilgy are non-traditional choices for using the role on in this game (although Ender has justified them). And there isn't really any objective evidence Ender is town. The counterpoint is vibes... Ender feels town.
Guillo - Has been wolfing it up all game objectively, but some people read Alison interactions and reaction to Mac roleclaim as clearing.
Lily - There just isn't evidence here imo, the counterpoint is 'lily feels town' - town enough that I even had her in my towncore early.
Marmot - Marmot's claim feels true and his choice to give to nut feels like what town Marmot would do, but that's all NAI really. Marmot had a significant role in elimiming cape and none in elimming seanzie. Counterpoint here is vibes too.
Michelle - Michelle hasn't really got her head in the game yet, so there's no evidence for town so far. Counterpoint is meta reads, a number of people have defended Michelle with town meta reads.
SVS - Has been quite, much quieter and more absent than normal SVS. The question is whether this is AI. SVS pointing out the rules wording implying one mafia could be read as town-leaning.
urist - Hasn't really done anything to get a clear, but several people had strong townreads early.

[Golden]

Well that last group missed out on their yellow.

[Golden]

sorry, should have previewed that... the dark green is terrible.

[Golden]

Haven't fully caught up on the overnight pages. I tried reading them when one of my kids woke up and couldn't really take any of it in except the flip, so... I'll do that later.

But I think it's time for me to do a list. This is not a rainbow list in how much I townread or wolfread each person. I've townread at least everyone left for some of the time. It's a rainbow list on how good or bad I think my reasons for reading people town are. So, for example, if I don't really trust someone but the reason I don't trust them is tinfoil and there's good evidence they're town, they're higher here. For people where I think the evidence needs reexamination and might not be so crash hot, they're lower.

Tell me if you think I've missed anything big in the analysis.

Tier 1 - the evidence for town is strong imo

DrWilgy - his approach that ended with the MR shot was towny af
Mac - has been working his ass off for town win, besides that his constant paranoia of his own reads even when he has really got a good basis for them feels very town mac
Neon - Shot sabi, claimed first. No way in a sea of six she claims that so quickly if it's redirected. And it was a hero shot imo.
PC - mechanically everything about this lot, including the role claim, feel absolutely ironclad. And in my view tutuu is putting in serious solving work. All the sus here is because of the shifty nature of having hydra members who are shitposting it up imo.

Tier 2- the evidence for town is good, but not waterproof

Dizzy - One of the solviest in the game. Analysed their shot well, even if it hit 3p not mafia.
Falcon - spew clear takes are good, and while he gets lost in the shuffle he comes out making good points that aren't made by others
Kate - multiple wolves aimed for kate to be lhf and got remarkably frustrated at my shielding over a significantly long period of time. Did not feel like bussing.
sig - Probably shot Alison, my own mechanical 'sig could have shot me and be lying about it' is what keeps him from top slot
Porscha - along with kate, up there as one of the best cases for 'interactions with wolves really do clear' in my mind.

Tier 3 - The evidence for town is there, but there's counterpoints I can't ignore

Rondo - Rondo is high contributing, could say high wim. I think there are good reasons to conclude from d2 analysis that he's clean, but there's also counterpoints there like the attempted counterwagon to marmot rather than just pushing rondo over seanzie. Also, he's being rondo, which inherently brings a lot of ambiguity (perhaps deliberate ambiguity). I feel like rondo being in this tier is probably due to deliberate action on rondo's part.
Scotty - There is a lot of interaction clearing for scotty that rings true to me. There was a counterpoint I noticed in my chat with alison, and that someone else (rondo?) also noticed and pointed out. Alison didn't want me to bring scotty into the neighbourhood, really the only person she pushed me off of my options. It makes sense that she would want me to suggest someone she could kill, in preference to someone she couldn't (ie a teammate).
sloonei - jumps in with astute wise old tortoise points from time to time. But there's nothing truly clearing there.

Tier 4 - The evidence for town isn't there imo, but there's a counterpoint that might actually be correct

112 - Nothing there to speak to towniness at all, there are some minimal interactions which could be read as clearing.
Ender - Role claim could be any alignment, scotty and Wilgy are non-traditional choices for using the role on in this game (although Ender has justified them). And there isn't really any objective evidence Ender is town. The counterpoint is vibes... Ender feels town.
Guillo - Has been wolfing it up all game objectively, but some people read Alison interactions and reaction to Mac roleclaim as clearing.
Lily - There just isn't evidence here imo, the counterpoint is 'lily feels town' - town enough that I even had her in my towncore early.
Marmot - Marmot's claim feels true and his choice to give to nut feels like what town Marmot would do, but that's all NAI really. Marmot had a significant role in elimiming cape and none in elimming seanzie. Counterpoint here is vibes too.
Michelle - Michelle hasn't really got her head in the game yet, so there's no evidence for town so far. Counterpoint is meta reads, a number of people have defended Michelle with town meta reads.
SVS - Has been quite, much quieter and more absent than normal SVS. The question is whether this is AI. SVS pointing out the rules wording implying one mafia could be read as town-leaning.
urist - Hasn't really done anything to get a clear, but several people had strong townreads early.

Fixed

[Golden]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

We're gonna make sure we get more votes on the real wagon (whoever that is) today, right?

Please stop voting for me when I keep telling people not to. I am sick of writing posts that simply do not get read.

Perhaps you should write 'please read this post' at the top of the ones you want us to read

[falcon45ca]

Ok I finally perused falcon’s ISO in regards to sabi, Alison and MR. Here’s the summary of posts and my takeaways below:

Spoiler: show

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

It was a joke post

Then why wasn't it funny?

There wasn't one LOL, not even a chuckle, nor a giggle

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Falcon almost all 10 of my games in syndicate you played with me lol

If you can't read me atp idk what to tell u

I believe in the power of change

I AM NOW VOLUME CLEARED.



20 POSTS SON, HAS IT EVAH BEEN DONE SO SOON?

If this is you trying to mimic sabis post you need to move on

Surrounding your focus on one post is just not gonna work

What if it's not?

Falcon y u so obsessed with me?

Y U obsessed with my obsessions?

I would prefer to exe Golden and not shoot him. My gun is a funky kind.

I'd elim this.

Why? You don't like guns, or is it funk ya got qualms with?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

MR stealin' my hmmmmmmms.




Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

MR bustin' out curse words?




Maf

I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

I nominate Porscha

I nominate Porscha

I wouldn't shoot Porscha cause it would be a waste

What makes you say that?

Porscha is already dead she just doesn't know it yet

I mean we're all gonna die one day.

Stop reading Sylvia Plath before you Maf, it's depressing

Day 2:

[VOTE: master turnip] aubergine

Scotty is town and Kate is town

This is why you're my favorite. Scotty was challenging your top spot, but he blew it now.

Vote Kate? For realzies??

This is a disproportionate level of salt when you have 0 votes on you and the game is 4 hours in.

Calling "realzies??" a disproportionate level of salt is making mountains of molehills.




I don't think realzies is ever actually salt, I mean it's spelt with the letter z. This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured

ehhhh

dial down all the sabi spew analysis I made by like 50%

I think they're still broadly valid but if sabi knew neon had a gun pointed at their head they'd be watching their words and might even be in anti spew mode

Hmmmmmm...




Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"

I actually wanted to come into D2, if alive, ready to play properly for once. That has not happened.

You had some pep D1...who took the jelly out of your donut?

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

Sounds like NAI behaviour :wowee:

This is wolfy.

Agreed.

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe

Then his next post:

Why isn't Porscha a wagon?




[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

And the wolfy things about him vastly, vastly, vastly outweigh that one little thing

Could you highlight these wolfy traits? I've found his great to be lacking the solve quality I normally associate w/ his town game, what are you seeing?

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

Hmm, maybe, though I do try to avoid drugging my wife usually.

OK, thats very reasonable, commendable and certainly ethical, but...



Wouldn'st thou like to live deliciously?

[VOTE: sean] aubergine

Day 3:

[VOTE: rottenradish] aubergine

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

Pimm's is a summer drink you peasant.

That's not a denial

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Legacies are stupid and I never read anyone's so no one should read mine.

Nothing I have to say should really be taken as valuable anyway. I'm pretty out of sync. Also on phone and not gonna type up an essay here.

I don't, as a rule, like essay's in Maf. Just a blurb or two. Some small scrap of info that might help us solve.




But, seeing as you're unwilling to do that, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be VK'd. You literally just outlined why you should be pew pewed.





Oh, and it is inherently in Maf's best interest to give as little info as possible while in the POE, so even if you're town, you're Maf siding

To start, falcon has been off and on suspicious of all 4 soup mafia at various points in the game.

However.

His suspicion on D1 for Alison and sabi is softballing it at best. He had a back and forth with sabi for like 4 posts which prompted Sabi to question why he was so ‘obsessed’ with them. Maybe a bit of an overreaction on their part. But sure.

We never circle back on sabi or Alison however. Falcon does call them both ‘wolf’ with a certain air of jokiness D1. But there is never developed reads, and he freely pivots to voting elsewhere throughout the day.

D2 is marginally better. The posts they stand out positively:
“ This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured”
“ Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"”
RE: Seanzie: “I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe”

As far as actually voting, I can’t pinpoint vote totals, but when he names his votes, he never actually votes for any of the soup mafia except MR beginning of D2, Seanzie end of D2, and MR again at top of today. MR is an undeveloped read that I don’t think had any traction to begin with. His continuation of MR today before being shot is likewise pretty shruggy and not built on anything stable.
Almost all his posts with Seanzie are joking or bouncing off ideas. It wasn’t until someone asked him about Seanzie that he admitted his posts look safe. And he only added on to the Seanzie wagon in the last 40 minutes of D2, so cred there is inconsequential.

I think the most bizarre progression in his iso is his light pressing of MR on both D2 and D3, never developing, and then immediately pivoting to an alternative for possible vig shots in Porscha on D2 and 112 on D3 for inactivity. Those seem to come out of nowhere, and the only time he talks about MR getting vig’d is when others have brought up the possibility.

Conclusion; i lean soup mafia partner. I don’t think I’m confbiasing- I picked falcon to read through because no one is really talking about him and I don’t remember his presence in the game. I think he is wholly compatible with the soup mafia and I’d vote there at the present based on my full perusal of his ISO. There is nothing clearing ISO-wise with the revealed mafia members.

I literally told you to ISO me, this is false.




The rest of your take is a mix between laughable and agenda-based.

[MacDougall]

Evidence Ender is town.

He didn't just silently give guns to his teammates to use to shoot townies.

Pretty strong evidence if you ask me.

[Golden]

@Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?

It's not hard. Just by shooting me, and looking at the list and realising that I wasn't on the list. Because a shot on me would kill Alison.

[Golden]

Evidence Ender is town.

He didn't just silently give guns to his teammates to use to shoot townies.

Pretty strong evidence if you ask me.

Yeah I agree with this, I meant to add above that even if he didn't know what he did the first time, the second time he claims to have worked it out and expressly picked Wilgy who shot a teammate.

Having said that, you might pick Wilgy for the chaos.

I think I'm happy with the tier I have ender in, in terms of evidence, but my gut read is that he's townier than that.

[MacDougall]

The point in Lily's favour is she's consistently voted wolves and she tried to get people to stop pushing onto me. Obviously the latter can be pocketing but your list reads like specifically looking for town reasoning so there it is. She's had very clean votes and pushes when she could have just not

[MacDougall]

@Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?

It's not hard. Just by shooting me, and looking at the list and realising that I wasn't on the list. Because a shot on me would kill Alison.

I mean a full one. I don't fully understand the mech.

[Golden]

@Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?

Golden is saying that he redirected actions from himself to Alison.
Seems unlikely that sig would know right away to claim the kill on Alison thoughhh

If they shot me and nutella between vig and NK, and neon claimed the third kill pretty quickly, they'd know what to claim fast.

But yes, I still think this is unlikely.

[Golden]

For me, sig is spritually tier 1 unless this game goes deep.

[Golden]

@Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?

It's not hard. Just by shooting me, and looking at the list and realising that I wasn't on the list. Because a shot on me would kill Alison.

I mean a full one. I don't fully understand the mech.

Is it really beneficial for me to 'fully' explain the mech? atm my gut has been no.

[MacDougall]

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

interesting

[Scotty]

Also I just realized- maybe the mod squad IS the lost wolf faction and they aren’t knowingly teamed with anyone

Strong doubt bro. The flips literally say third party.

Right, but it’s the same 3rd party as ilario. Sounds like they are on the same ‘team’, even if they’re 3rd party.

But eh. Maybe not lost wolf. That would have a Mafia next to it I guess. I think it’s just bizarre to have identical 3rd parties in a game

[MacDougall]

I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)

What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.

Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?

> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.

You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.

> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.

> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.

towniest post in the game lol

interdasting

[MacDougall]

Also I just realized- maybe the mod squad IS the lost wolf faction and they aren’t knowingly teamed with anyone

Strong doubt bro. The flips literally say third party.

Right, but it’s the same 3rd party as ilario. Sounds like they are on the same ‘team’, even if they’re 3rd party.

But eh. Maybe not lost wolf. That would have a Mafia next to it I guess. I think it’s just bizarre to have identical 3rd parties in a game

Bro they are a faction... a team... they aren't identical 3rd parties. They are a team with the faction name mod squad whose roles were not revealed.

[Golden]

I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)

What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.

Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?

> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?

You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.

You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.

> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.

> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.

No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.

towniest post in the game lol

interdasting

Especially given this is the post where I was like 'alright, I'm neighbouring Alison, that post is so bad'.

[Scotty]

@Scotty @Michelle @Party Crasher don't vote me find wolves.

Don't worry about voting me today let's just try to win the game.

On the flip side you said you’re compulsive, right?

So it’s actually worst case scenario if only townreads are left on you at end of day.

I’m only voting you because I’m a part of several people’s POE of whom I trust. I can certainly move if that changes tho

[MacDougall]

I have decided it's time for lilypetal to depart the game.

Sorry dear. All love.

[VOTE: Lilypetal] aubergine

[MacDougall]

@Scotty @Michelle @Party Crasher don't vote me find wolves.

Don't worry about voting me today let's just try to win the game.

On the flip side you said you’re compulsive, right?

So it’s actually worst case scenario if only townreads are left on you at end of day.

I’m only voting you because I’m a part of several people’s POE of whom I trust. I can certainly move if that changes tho

Thats not the flipside it's the a-side. With this strategy I will only ever end up shooting townies. So I'd rather not have any votes.

[Scotty]

Ok I finally perused falcon’s ISO in regards to sabi, Alison and MR. Here’s the summary of posts and my takeaways below:

Spoiler: show

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

It was a joke post

Then why wasn't it funny?

There wasn't one LOL, not even a chuckle, nor a giggle

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Falcon almost all 10 of my games in syndicate you played with me lol

If you can't read me atp idk what to tell u

I believe in the power of change

I AM NOW VOLUME CLEARED.



20 POSTS SON, HAS IT EVAH BEEN DONE SO SOON?

If this is you trying to mimic sabis post you need to move on

Surrounding your focus on one post is just not gonna work

What if it's not?

Falcon y u so obsessed with me?

Y U obsessed with my obsessions?

I would prefer to exe Golden and not shoot him. My gun is a funky kind.

I'd elim this.

Why? You don't like guns, or is it funk ya got qualms with?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

MR stealin' my hmmmmmmms.




Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

MR bustin' out curse words?




Maf

I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

I nominate Porscha

I wouldn't shoot Porscha cause it would be a waste

What makes you say that?

Porscha is already dead she just doesn't know it yet

I mean we're all gonna die one day.

Stop reading Sylvia Plath before you Maf, it's depressing

Day 2:

[VOTE: master turnip] aubergine

Scotty is town and Kate is town

This is why you're my favorite. Scotty was challenging your top spot, but he blew it now.

Vote Kate? For realzies??

This is a disproportionate level of salt when you have 0 votes on you and the game is 4 hours in.

Calling "realzies??" a disproportionate level of salt is making mountains of molehills.




I don't think realzies is ever actually salt, I mean it's spelt with the letter z. This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured

ehhhh

dial down all the sabi spew analysis I made by like 50%

I think they're still broadly valid but if sabi knew neon had a gun pointed at their head they'd be watching their words and might even be in anti spew mode

Hmmmmmm...




Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"

I actually wanted to come into D2, if alive, ready to play properly for once. That has not happened.

You had some pep D1...who took the jelly out of your donut?

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

Sounds like NAI behaviour :wowee:

This is wolfy.

Agreed.

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe

Then his next post:

Why isn't Porscha a wagon?




[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

And the wolfy things about him vastly, vastly, vastly outweigh that one little thing

Could you highlight these wolfy traits? I've found his great to be lacking the solve quality I normally associate w/ his town game, what are you seeing?

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

Hmm, maybe, though I do try to avoid drugging my wife usually.

OK, thats very reasonable, commendable and certainly ethical, but...



Wouldn'st thou like to live deliciously?

[VOTE: sean] aubergine

Day 3:

[VOTE: rottenradish] aubergine

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

Pimm's is a summer drink you peasant.

That's not a denial

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Legacies are stupid and I never read anyone's so no one should read mine.

Nothing I have to say should really be taken as valuable anyway. I'm pretty out of sync. Also on phone and not gonna type up an essay here.

I don't, as a rule, like essay's in Maf. Just a blurb or two. Some small scrap of info that might help us solve.




But, seeing as you're unwilling to do that, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be VK'd. You literally just outlined why you should be pew pewed.





Oh, and it is inherently in Maf's best interest to give as little info as possible while in the POE, so even if you're town, you're Maf siding

To start, falcon has been off and on suspicious of all 4 soup mafia at various points in the game.

However.

His suspicion on D1 for Alison and sabi is softballing it at best. He had a back and forth with sabi for like 4 posts which prompted Sabi to question why he was so ‘obsessed’ with them. Maybe a bit of an overreaction on their part. But sure.

We never circle back on sabi or Alison however. Falcon does call them both ‘wolf’ with a certain air of jokiness D1. But there is never developed reads, and he freely pivots to voting elsewhere throughout the day.

D2 is marginally better. The posts they stand out positively:
“ This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured”
“ Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"”
RE: Seanzie: “I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe”

As far as actually voting, I can’t pinpoint vote totals, but when he names his votes, he never actually votes for any of the soup mafia except MR beginning of D2, Seanzie end of D2, and MR again at top of today. MR is an undeveloped read that I don’t think had any traction to begin with. His continuation of MR today before being shot is likewise pretty shruggy and not built on anything stable.
Almost all his posts with Seanzie are joking or bouncing off ideas. It wasn’t until someone asked him about Seanzie that he admitted his posts look safe. And he only added on to the Seanzie wagon in the last 40 minutes of D2, so cred there is inconsequential.

I think the most bizarre progression in his iso is his light pressing of MR on both D2 and D3, never developing, and then immediately pivoting to an alternative for possible vig shots in Porscha on D2 and 112 on D3 for inactivity. Those seem to come out of nowhere, and the only time he talks about MR getting vig’d is when others have brought up the possibility.

Conclusion; i lean soup mafia partner. I don’t think I’m confbiasing- I picked falcon to read through because no one is really talking about him and I don’t remember his presence in the game. I think he is wholly compatible with the soup mafia and I’d vote there at the present based on my full perusal of his ISO. There is nothing clearing ISO-wise with the revealed mafia members.

I literally told you to ISO me, this is false.




The rest of your take is a mix between laughable and agenda-based.

I mean, the plan was to iso you anyway. Me asking the thread why you were townread was to get a preamble.

Nothing agenda-based here brosef

I think I’m the only one currently suspecting you however

[MacDougall]

Alison's reaction is what I expect of v!her, but I'm also kind of biased because I'm already town reading her from her prior content

This is bad.

Townreading a wolf but hedging it by saying she was already townreading said wolf is pretty funny.

[Party Crasher]

You are a hydra, in the game of champions, comprised of a group of players that didn't win a game in 2022, which is the prerequisite to entry into the game, with the name Party Crasher, and you have a bulletproof vest and you're town?

This is your story, and at least some part of it is a lie. I refuse to believe the above to be a truthful statement.

So basically either we're not town or we don't have a bulletproof vest?

well.

Does your role PM actually use the word bulletproof vest in it?

we have a one time protection from all death including chop

@Scotty @Michelle @Party Crasher don't vote me find wolves.

Don't worry about voting me today let's just try to win the game.

it sounds suboptimal to not use your ability as extra kp every day. it's like we have 2 chops. why not make use of it for no reason? if the pool of people voting you is small then it can be bad. but why not force (gently ask) consensus poe to vote you? for instance if we can convince 112 to vote you - why not shoot her?

-t

[MacDougall]

So not voting toDay

Dennis
Kate
Golden
Zeus
Lucy
Ender

Not a fan of
Lily
Alison
Rondo

Honestly this is quite likely to be clearing for Michelle. @Golden

[Scotty]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine