Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

If you want to push him look through his content and find me something AI

[Guillotine]

Here is my take on guillo.

On day one, I said ‘there’s a lot of tropey stuff in the wolfreads’. Mac later asked me what I thought was genuinely wolf indicative.

I said: “the challenging of the truthfulness of my read on Kate” (Alison, Seanzie, Guillo, Urist, Scotty.)

And: “saying you’ll contribute more when the game is smaller” (sVS, Michelle, Guillo.)

Guillo being in both of these categories, each of which did legitimately prove to include non-town players for reasons that proved to be legitimately AI.

On day 2/3, wolves had a clear loss of ‘wim’. Guillo simply stoped participating during that point in time, reappearing once town started losing its way again. On day 3 the game was at the size guillo said he could contribute in, he wasn’t there. By now, guillo is in a size of game he can actively solve in, but his tunnel and the breadth of his thinking seems no more broad than day one.

From the very start of this game, Guillo has played in a way that people say is ‘just town’, it’s been out there since day one.

Guillo doesn’t have time or desire to read the thread and keeps derping about it’s content, consistently. Guillo does have time to read his own meta database, though.

The whole thing just doesn’t add up to me. I feel like guillo is playing a role… be actively wolfy, be meta cleared, retain a very narrow tunnel on civs.

Perhaps it just seems more obvious to me, or is confbiased, because I’ve been in guillo’s tunnel the entire game. But there has not been a single moment in this game where guillos reads on me have felt even slightly developed or evolving.

You ate confibiased or just a wolf shielding another wolf. Let me destroy your points one by one.

1) Day 2/3 wolves lost their WIM, how do you figure this. Show me evidence from flipped wolves where they said they did.

Second i lost WIM since day 1 when Hollowkatt petsonally attacked for CORRECTLY scum reading him. Then by MacDougall, then by you. Yes, by you too, you apologized too as far as i remember. I dont know how you deal with that shit but im here to play a game and win, im a very busy person, i only play here like three times a year. So when someone attacks me when im not attacking them personally, yah, it kills my fucking WIM.

In a real world scenario i would do something about it, a punch in the nose or a kick in the balls because it feels great to attack back, it is quite therapeutic!
But in the virtual world where people feel like they can insult other people behind the anonymity of a computer screen and and user name, you dont have that luxury and have to depend on mods to fight back for you. Except sometimes they side with the perpetrators too so, yah that kills your WIM for sure.

NOTHING CAN KILL MY WIM AS EITHER ALIGNMENT EXCEPT PERSONAL ATTACKS!

I do not give up! Ive won games as a wolf in far far worse situations, ive won a game with 12 townies and i was the only scum left. Ive won a game where town had a double elimination feature and town caught two wolves on day 1 and i was a substitute of the third who was pretty much outed scum until i came along.

And as town..Marmot once said in a discord server that the best way to avoid dying as wolf with ne in the game as town and to completely ignore me, which was true back then.
You can't kill my WIM without dirty play.

Guillo doesn’t have time or desire to read the thread and keeps derping about it’s content, consistently. Guillo does have time to read his own meta database, though.

How is this alignment indicative? Yes, i cant read 300 pages but i can read my meta collection which is focused on behavior analysis to help me get a read on people here.
Would you rather i do not use other means i can use to help town at all? Would you rather have me shut up? Silenced? Just because i will not read a book's worth of pages?

Why did you have to frame that post as a shade Golden?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Here is my take on guillo.

On day one, I said ‘there’s a lot of tropey stuff in the wolfreads’. Mac later asked me what I thought was genuinely wolf indicative.

I said: “the challenging of the truthfulness of my read on Kate” (Alison, Seanzie, Guillo, Urist, Scotty.)

And: “saying you’ll contribute more when the game is smaller” (sVS, Michelle, Guillo.)

Guillo being in both of these categories, each of which did legitimately prove to include non-town players for reasons that proved to be legitimately AI.

On day 2/3, wolves had a clear loss of ‘wim’. Guillo simply stoped participating during that point in time, reappearing once town started losing its way again. On day 3 the game was at the size guillo said he could contribute in, he wasn’t there. By now, guillo is in a size of game he can actively solve in, but his tunnel and the breadth of his thinking seems no more broad than day one.

From the very start of this game, Guillo has played in a way that people say is ‘just town’, it’s been out there since day one.

Guillo doesn’t have time or desire to read the thread and keeps derping about it’s content, consistently. Guillo does have time to read his own meta database, though.

The whole thing just doesn’t add up to me. I feel like guillo is playing a role… be actively wolfy, be meta cleared, retain a very narrow tunnel on civs.

Perhaps it just seems more obvious to me, or is confbiased, because I’ve been in guillo’s tunnel the entire game. But there has not been a single moment in this game where guillos reads on me have felt even slightly developed or evolving.

You ate confibiased or just a wolf shielding another wolf. Let me destroy your points one by one.

1) Day 2/3 wolves lost their WIM, how do you figure this. Show me evidence from flipped wolves where they said they did.

Second i lost WIM since day 1 when Hollowkatt petsonally attacked for CORRECTLY scum reading him. Then by MacDougall, then by you. Yes, by you too, you apologized too as far as i remember. I dont know how you deal with that shit but im here to play a game and win, im a very busy person, i only play here like three times a year. So when someone attacks me when im not attacking them personally, yah, it kills my fucking WIM.

In a real world scenario i would do something about it, a punch in the nose or a kick in the balls because it feels great to attack back, it is quite therapeutic!
But in the virtual world where people feel like they can insult other people behind the anonymity of a computer screen and and user name, you dont have that luxury and have to depend on mods to fight back for you. Except sometimes they side with the perpetrators too so, yah that kills your WIM for sure.

NOTHING CAN KILL MY WIM AS EITHER ALIGNMENT EXCEPT PERSONAL ATTACKS!

I do not give up! Ive won games as a wolf in far far worse situations, ive won a game with 12 townies and i was the only scum left. Ive won a game where town had a double elimination feature and town caught two wolves on day 1 and i was a substitute of the third who was pretty much outed scum until i came along.

And as town..Marmot once said in a discord server that the best way to avoid dying as wolf with ne in the game as town and to completely ignore me, which was true back then.
You can't kill my WIM without dirty play.

Guillo doesn’t have time or desire to read the thread and keeps derping about it’s content, consistently. Guillo does have time to read his own meta database, though.

How is this alignment indicative? Yes, i cant read 300 pages but i can read my meta collection which is focused on behavior analysis to help me get a read on people here.
Would you rather i do not use other means i can use to help town at all? Would you rather have me shut up? Silenced? Just because i will not read a book's worth of pages?

Why did you have to frame that post as a shade Golden?

well if you are town svs has to die, she can murder you and dizzy

[Guillotine]

I didnt AtE, i stated Facts

[RondoDimBuckle]

I didnt AtE, i stated Facts

eh the bold and caps come across as ate, perhaps not excessive

[Guillotine]

And where the hell is Rondo.

He has not ever questioned me once about my townread on him.

He had been pushing for me from day 1 to day 3, but that went away as soon he was in PC's PoE and i was the only ally.

So?

So? That you could be a wolf who is happy that i defended you so your teammates can use to chop me later, that is the so.

[Golden]

I think I feel particularly at sea in this game and my reads are not the same as the reads of others.

What names are of greatest concern when you consider these disagreements?

Ender is of the greatest concern, in the sense that if you were to multiply ‘odds of being a wolf’ by ‘odds of not being elimmed’ I’d say his number comes out top.

eh I am going to lose the game to Ender and say he is town

This is exactly my point lol

[Guillotine]

I didnt AtE, i stated Facts

eh the bold and caps come across as ate, perhaps not excessive

The bold is not AtE, im not even yelling there, picture that like a billboard. For emphasis.

[Dyslexicon]

Let's just kill SVS and go from there. PC is right about that.

[RondoDimBuckle]

And where the hell is Rondo.

He has not ever questioned me once about my townread on him.

He had been pushing for me from day 1 to day 3, but that went away as soon he was in PC's PoE and i was the only ally.

So?

So? That you could be a wolf who is happy that i defended you so your teammates can use to chop me later, that is the so.

Did you read me at all this game? I have no time to deal with you when PC is in my grill. Im going to take the town read and move on

[Guillotine]

And where the hell is Rondo.

He has not ever questioned me once about my townread on him.

He had been pushing for me from day 1 to day 3, but that went away as soon he was in PC's PoE and i was the only ally.

So?

So? That you could be a wolf who is happy that i defended you so your teammates can use to chop me later, that is the so.

Did you read me at all this game? I have no time to deal with you when PC is in my grill. Im going to take the town read and move on

I have but.., you know, it's mafia.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Let's just kill SVS and go from there. PC is right about that.

This comes after I put your vote to 3, it sounds like someone who knows its lylo and wants to win

[Party Crasher]

I think we think about this after SVS flip. There being possible tools tomorrow is a good point I forgot to consider. I'm thinking about this differently now. Maybe I can be an asset and not a problem.

Let's just kill SVS and go from there. PC is right about that.

-t

[RondoDimBuckle]

This is fucking sad lol

this also sounds like someone who knows its lylo

[Party Crasher]

Me on my way back to my Rondo death tunnel tomorrow after SVS flips 3p

-t

[RondoDimBuckle]

Me on my way back to my Rondo death tunnel tomorrow after SVS flips 3p

-t

I personally don't think there is a tomorrow.

[Party Crasher]

Me on my way back to my Rondo death tunnel tomorrow after SVS flips 3p

-t

I personally don't think there is a tomorrow.

I feel like you might be right

I think that there might just be some kind of mega death event at EoD or something that just mechanically makes the game end

Maybe we all just play a turbo on discord and whoever wins wins lol

-t

[RondoDimBuckle]

If we hit svs mafia get the win because they have a soup or kill. If we hit mafia svs murders people

[RondoDimBuckle]

SVS Cant win if she doesnt kill people, but she doesnt have enough people so she might just accept her loss and let us achieve wincon. She doesnt seem like the person to drag us down with her if she cant win

[RondoDimBuckle]

So the question is do we leave SVS alive if she is 3P? Do we believe she is 3p and not mafia?

[RondoDimBuckle]

if this is lylo, both mafia will be on the same wagon trying to force a victory: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin or Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden.

For me I cant see Guillo + Ender
But I can see 2 of Porscha / PC / Dizzy

Note SVS is still to vote

[RondoDimBuckle]

if this is lylo, both mafia will be on the same wagon trying to force a victory: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin or Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden.

For me I cant see Guillo + Ender
But I can see 2 of Porscha / PC / Dizzy

Note SVS is still to vote

I could see SVS + Guillo / Ender

or SVS + Porscha / PC / Dizzy

[Party Crasher]

I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

[RondoDimBuckle]

I will also note Dizzy got pretty fuckin quiet when I accused him of lylo tmi

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

and then you started talking when Dizzy bounced

[Party Crasher]

I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

and then you started talking when Dizzy bounced

-t

[Party Crasher]

@Guillotine @RondoDimBuckle @EnderWiggin

I am falling on my knees and begging you to vote SVS

-t

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

and then you started talking when Dizzy bounced

-t

hah too bad I think this is you actually admitting it

[Party Crasher]

I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

and then you started talking when Dizzy bounced

-t

hah too bad I think this is you actually admitting it

-t

[Porscha]

Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

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catagorically false

[Porscha]

There is too much information we do *not* have and you can use this to either
1) play it safe. Eliminate the 1 person we know for sure is not town
2) risk voting an unconfirmed individual because you're more certain svs is less dangerous than the unknown

I personally believe option 2 either comes from someone with tmi or someone who is clinical

[S~V~S]

I'm sad you guys, no one @'ed me at all today.

I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

Ok, thanks for the tip! [VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

I am pleased to see you guys are at least trying to find someone not 3P. Although tbh, I would have voted for anyone to potentially save myself. Although i really can't win at this point, so whatever.

[Porscha]

Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

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catagorically false

[Porscha]

I'm sad you guys, no one @'ed me at all today.

I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

Ok, thanks for the tip! [VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

I am pleased to see you guys are at least trying to find someone not 3P. Although tbh, I would have voted for anyone to potentially save myself. Although i really can't win at this point, so whatever.

Bruh anyone not on svs wagon needs to get on it PROMPTLY

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

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catagorically false

ok I am not on 2 of Porscha / Dizzy / PC

Unfortunately Dizzy who Ender is voting is the most town of the bunch. So I have a 66% chance of being correct

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm sad you guys, no one @'ed me at all today.

I am already getting nervous by wagons being 5-3, with SVS being able to make them 5-4

Can we please not?

-t

Ok, thanks for the tip! [VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

I am pleased to see you guys are at least trying to find someone not 3P. Although tbh, I would have voted for anyone to potentially save myself. Although i really can't win at this point, so whatever.

Bruh anyone not on svs wagon needs to get on it PROMPTLY

lol you meme at me then appeal to me. Fat chance that is going to work now

[Guillotine]

SvS voting there is wifom

[Guillotine]

Let's vote on my scum partner to spook town and make them second guess themselves.

[Porscha]

Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

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catagorically false

ok I am not on 2 of Porscha / Dizzy / PC

Unfortunately Dizzy who Ender is voting is the most town of the bunch. So I have a 66% chance of being correct

Wild that you still cannot come around to the idea that I'm categorically out of my wolf range
What have I done since mac convinced you I was town??
I need you to find me here i cannot have you struggling so hard here there needs to be some cohesiveness between town and I really want to believe you are town even though I worry you arent. So let me help you

[Porscha]

Let's vote on my scum partner to spook town and make them second guess themselves.

Svs claims 3p
Do you believe dizzy is also 3p
Or do you think svs will flip wolf if dizzy is wolf

Either way your vote needs to be on svs and not defending it calling it wifom partner vote

[RondoDimBuckle]

Scotty ( 6 ): EnderWiggin, Golden, Dyslexicon, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca
S~V~S ( 6 ): Scotty, sig, Neon, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Guillotine
Golden ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( 1 ): porscha

Dyslexicon:Voters: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, S~V~S, EnderWiggin
SVS: Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden

Ok looking at the scotty voters: Ender + SVS and Golden + Dyslexicon
Looking at the SVS Voters PC + Sloonie, Guillotine is just town to me

its honestly unlikely that both wolves would be on the same wagon so its one in

PC / Sloonie = pc
Ender / SVS = svs
Golden / Dizzy = Dizzy

So porscha is just being an ass and its PC/Dizzy

[Dyslexicon]

Bruv

[Guillotine]

Let's vote on my scum partner to spook town and make them second guess themselves.

Svs claims 3p
Do you believe dizzy is also 3p
Or do you think svs will flip wolf if dizzy is wolf

Either way your vote needs to be on svs and not defending it calling it wifom partner vote

SvS gotta be scum as the entire 3P faction is dead, is it not? Didnt Mod Squad die?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Let's vote on my scum partner to spook town and make them second guess themselves.

I mean it could be Dizzy / SVS if PC is town?

[Dyslexicon]

If I'm voted over SVS here, it will be poetic justice. But also can we like not

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo, dizzy had already stopped being in thread well before you arrived

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catagorically false

ok I am not on 2 of Porscha / Dizzy / PC

Unfortunately Dizzy who Ender is voting is the most town of the bunch. So I have a 66% chance of being correct

Wild that you still cannot come around to the idea that I'm categorically out of my wolf range
What have I done since mac convinced you I was town??
I need you to find me here i cannot have you struggling so hard here there needs to be some cohesiveness between town and I really want to believe you are town even though I worry you arent. So let me help you

meming at me when I scum read you is not the way to go

[Porscha]

Scotty ( 6 ): EnderWiggin, Golden, Dyslexicon, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, falcon45ca
S~V~S ( 6 ): Scotty, sig, Neon, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Guillotine
Golden ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( 1 ): porscha

Dyslexicon:Voters: Guillotine, RondoDimBuckle, S~V~S, EnderWiggin
SVS: Porscha, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Sloonei, Golden

Ok looking at the scotty voters: Ender + SVS and Golden + Dyslexicon
Looking at the SVS Voters PC + Sloonie, Guillotine is just town to me

its honestly unlikely that both wolves would be on the same wagon so its one in

PC / Sloonie = pc
Ender / SVS = svs
Golden / Dizzy = Dizzy

So porscha is just being an ass and its PC/Dizzy

Bro how am I being an ass about anything...

[Dyslexicon]

Let's just kill SVS and go from there. PC is right about that.

This comes after I put your vote to 3, it sounds like someone who knows its lylo and wants to win

No?

[Guillotine]

If I'm voted over SVS here, it will be poetic justice. But also can we like not

Why should i give you the chance you didnt give Scotty by CFD him instead of chopping out SvS.