Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Party Crasher]

PC was the one who, a long time ago, brought up that their vest wouldn’t work at lylo.

Only it’s not lylo. It’s ‘if it would end the game’. Their wording is the same as mine.

this is not true and we've never agreed with your wording

us using lylo is deliberate

[Dyslexicon]

PC was the one who, a long time ago, brought up that their vest wouldn’t work at lylo.

Only it’s not lylo. It’s ‘if it would end the game’. Their wording is the same as mine.

If they’re mafia (unless it’s 3v2, but I just don’t think it is), they will die.

Otherwise they invented something in their rolecard (that their vest doesn’t work at lylo) that I can independently prove exists within a town rolecard.

Which is a very odd thing to even think to invent if they are teammates with svs who has a vest without that condition.

Right. This makes me feels safe.

[Dyslexicon]

PC was the one who, a long time ago, brought up that their vest wouldn’t work at lylo.

Only it’s not lylo. It’s ‘if it would end the game’. Their wording is the same as mine.

this is not true and we've never agreed with your wording

us using lylo is deliberate

This makes me feel not so safe

[Party Crasher]

in fact you insisting on that made me tinfoil you for a few minutes earlier

[Party Crasher]

NO SYN

BAD SYN

-t

[Dyslexicon]

I mean, I still don't see it as a town derp though. Because as mafia they would think about themselves as town anyway, no?

[Party Crasher]

PC was the one who, a long time ago, brought up that their vest wouldn’t work at lylo.

Only it’s not lylo. It’s ‘if it would end the game’. Their wording is the same as mine.

this is not true and we've never agreed with your wording

us using lylo is deliberate

This makes me feel not so safe

embrace the danger

[Party Crasher]

Our role just says that the first time we die, we dont

We had to clarify extra from that, if it works for chop. Then, we found out it doesnt work in lylo

-t

[Golden]

PC was the one who, a long time ago, brought up that their vest wouldn’t work at lylo.

Only it’s not lylo. It’s ‘if it would end the game’. Their wording is the same as mine.

this is not true and we've never agreed with your wording

us using lylo is deliberate

Deliberate, but a lie.

Either that or you’re lying about something else but… honesty mateys just take your townclear.

[Sloonei]

When I try to find town right now, you three (Golden, Dizzy, Party Crasher) all look very town. Porscha does not look exceedingly suspicious. But they look less town.

[Golden]

I mean, I still don't see it as a town derp though. Because as mafia they would think about themselves as town anyway, no?

The thought that ‘lylo and ending the game are the same thing’ is inherently a difficult perspective slip to fake as wolf. He didn’t understand how my question was relevant.

Although I’m not giving you credit for doing the same thing because you came second.

[Party Crasher]

because you came second.

dizzy is generous that way

[Party Crasher]

LMAO

-t

[Golden]

because you came second.

dizzy is generous that way

[Party Crasher]

PC was the one who, a long time ago, brought up that their vest wouldn’t work at lylo.

Only it’s not lylo. It’s ‘if it would end the game’. Their wording is the same as mine.

this is not true and we've never agreed with your wording

us using lylo is deliberate

Deliberate, but a lie.

Either that or you’re lying about something else but… honesty mateys just take your townclear.

wouldn't it be funny if we didn't have a vest but we had a soup kill

[Dyslexicon]

I mean, I still don't see it as a town derp though. Because as mafia they would think about themselves as town anyway, no?

The thought that ‘lylo and ending the game are the same thing’ is inherently a difficult perspective slip to fake as wolf. He didn’t understand how my question was relevant.

Although I’m not giving you credit for doing the same thing because you came second.

I actually prefer to come second.

[Dyslexicon]

Lol, you all took my joke before I could take it

[Golden]

Dizzy not as generous as once thought

[Dyslexicon]

And now I don't get cred for that either

[Party Crasher]

PC was the one who, a long time ago, brought up that their vest wouldn’t work at lylo.

Only it’s not lylo. It’s ‘if it would end the game’. Their wording is the same as mine.

this is not true and we've never agreed with your wording

us using lylo is deliberate

Deliberate, but a lie.

Either that or you’re lying about something else but… honesty mateys just take your townclear.

wouldn't it be funny if we didn't have a vest but we had a soup kill

He is grounded to his room relax guys everything is under control

-t

[Golden]

And now I don't get cred for that either

And this is why I townread you

[Porscha]

(I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

[Party Crasher]

(I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

[Party Crasher]

a remarkably SVS-esque post

[Sloonei]

(I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

I do not feel like you would be a “shrug chop”. I have found reasons to town read everybody else that I feel reasonably good about. I have not found a reason to be as confident about you.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

[Porscha]

a remarkably SVS-esque post

How in any way is that svs-esque

What about what I said is untrue from my perspective

I am as golden said. The least towny feeling / sounding

I'm not pulling quotes out of my ass to try and make up points against anyone here cuz I dont have agenda or wim

My role claim sucks nuts but is very similar to and basic like enders

Anytime I ask a question its responded to as if I made the question in bad faith when I dont feel like others are receiving this treatment

The only thing you can do post flip, assuming game doesnt end, is try to figure out if the person who pushed me the hardest is the wolf or if the wolf coasted onto the read

I am currently hiding in the bathroom to avoid my big boss and post because I'm committed to this game but I am extremely unable to sit here for hours and probe ISO's or be time sensitively responsive so I am giving what I can give

If there is a lylo tomorrow: godspeed, brothers. Whoever makes it that far

[Porscha]

I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

[Party Crasher]

I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

who is it then? why just tell us "huh, must suck. have fun"?

[Dyslexicon]

I'm getting cold feet tbh

[Porscha]

(I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

I do not feel like you would be a “shrug chop”. I have found reasons to town read everybody else that I feel reasonably good about. I have not found a reason to be as confident about you.

I frequently made posts about myself today that almost nobody or literally nobody interacted with and if you guys had read my ISO like you said you did you could find great reasons to tr me but I think half of the iso'ing that was done was cherry picked

But I dont have time to evaluate which one of you is the wolf doing this. You successfully waited until late enough into the day to start a legitimate push on me that I cant be here to figure out where the wolf musk is coming from

But I knew this would probably happen too. I already knew my role was trash compared to all of yours and I dont have any mech clear or kate/rondo shield to make me worthy but I couldnt wim it up enough today to beat those issues

[Dyslexicon]

I'm getting cold feet tbh

Jk, it's probably correct

[Party Crasher]

(I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

I do not feel like you would be a “shrug chop”. I have found reasons to town read everybody else that I feel reasonably good about. I have not found a reason to be as confident about you.

I frequently made posts about myself today that almost nobody or literally nobody interacted with and if you guys had read my ISO like you said you did you could find great reasons to tr me but I think half of the iso'ing that was done was cherry picked

But I dont have time to evaluate which one of you is the wolf doing this. You successfully waited until late enough into the day to start a legitimate push on me that I cant be here to figure out where the wolf musk is coming from

But I knew this would probably happen too. I already knew my role was trash compared to all of yours and I dont have any mech clear or kate/rondo shield to make me worthy but I couldnt wim it up enough today to beat those issues

gun to head (literally lol), who is it?

[Porscha]

I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

who is it then? why just tell us "huh, must suck. have fun"?

How the fuck would I know who it is? I'm very aware if I sat here making an hour long case against 1 of you I could maybe avoid this problem but it's literally impossible for me to do because of irl things and like I've done all day I have tried solving or asking questions and also not figured out where to go! That's why I said earlier if there was a consensus that would be almost improbable! I am just as confused and unsure like you and if you're town youd understand this is towny behavior
Rough cuz I assume the wolf is pretending to be confused too, but when I called golden out for making a somewhat real case against me and talking about me a bunch, it leads me right back to what I already said:
Wolf is under pressure
They cannot act confused as well as town will. They will need to choose targets
So if I see myself becoming a target
I follow it back
But nobody interacted with me on this
I think my logic is sound and followable but I can also see that mech and lies about mech are muddling the pool of potentials more than my viewpoints making logical town sense

[Party Crasher]

I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

who is it then? why just tell us "huh, must suck. have fun"?

How the fuck would I know who it is? I'm very aware if I sat here making an hour long case against 1 of you I could maybe avoid this problem but it's literally impossible for me to do because of irl things and like I've done all day I have tried solving or asking questions and also not figured out where to go! That's why I said earlier if there was a consensus that would be almost improbable! I am just as confused and unsure like you and if you're town youd understand this is towny behavior
Rough cuz I assume the wolf is pretending to be confused too, but when I called golden out for making a somewhat real case against me and talking about me a bunch, it leads me right back to what I already said:
Wolf is under pressure
They cannot act confused as well as town will. They will need to choose targets
So if I see myself becoming a target
I follow it back
But nobody interacted with me on this
I think my logic is sound and followable but I can also see that mech and lies about mech are muddling the pool of potentials more than my viewpoints making logical town sense

my point largely is that if you are town, you are in a unique position of knowing for a fact everyone else is wrong

I'm not asking for a big case. just what your gut says. from your perspective, it is one of us. who do you pick?

[Porscha]

(I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

I do not feel like you would be a “shrug chop”. I have found reasons to town read everybody else that I feel reasonably good about. I have not found a reason to be as confident about you.

I frequently made posts about myself today that almost nobody or literally nobody interacted with and if you guys had read my ISO like you said you did you could find great reasons to tr me but I think half of the iso'ing that was done was cherry picked

But I dont have time to evaluate which one of you is the wolf doing this. You successfully waited until late enough into the day to start a legitimate push on me that I cant be here to figure out where the wolf musk is coming from

But I knew this would probably happen too. I already knew my role was trash compared to all of yours and I dont have any mech clear or kate/rondo shield to make me worthy but I couldnt wim it up enough today to beat those issues

gun to head (literally lol), who is it?

Honest to god I dont know. I think I'd have to go dizzy

But I dont recall sloonei claiming anything
Goldens role is stupid convoluted
Your role sounds like svs

It could be sloonei getting thru on mech rondo was sure he had
It could be golden came up with a fucking baller role claim early that hes been able to just add shit onto that sounds reasonable
Dizzy could be getting by on ate and convenience of enders vote last night
PC could have offed rondo as a level 1 play to wifom

Like if you do not know then I do not know why you expect me to pull an answer out of my ass just because I'm on the chopping block

[Porscha]

I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

who is it then? why just tell us "huh, must suck. have fun"?

How the fuck would I know who it is? I'm very aware if I sat here making an hour long case against 1 of you I could maybe avoid this problem but it's literally impossible for me to do because of irl things and like I've done all day I have tried solving or asking questions and also not figured out where to go! That's why I said earlier if there was a consensus that would be almost improbable! I am just as confused and unsure like you and if you're town youd understand this is towny behavior
Rough cuz I assume the wolf is pretending to be confused too, but when I called golden out for making a somewhat real case against me and talking about me a bunch, it leads me right back to what I already said:
Wolf is under pressure
They cannot act confused as well as town will. They will need to choose targets
So if I see myself becoming a target
I follow it back
But nobody interacted with me on this
I think my logic is sound and followable but I can also see that mech and lies about mech are muddling the pool of potentials more than my viewpoints making logical town sense

my point largely is that if you are town, you are in a unique position of knowing for a fact everyone else is wrong

I'm not asking for a big case. just what your gut says. from your perspective, it is one of us. who do you pick?

See below. I've had this same perspective all day

[Porscha]

I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

who is it then? why just tell us "huh, must suck. have fun"?

How the fuck would I know who it is? I'm very aware if I sat here making an hour long case against 1 of you I could maybe avoid this problem but it's literally impossible for me to do because of irl things and like I've done all day I have tried solving or asking questions and also not figured out where to go! That's why I said earlier if there was a consensus that would be almost improbable! I am just as confused and unsure like you and if you're town youd understand this is towny behavior
Rough cuz I assume the wolf is pretending to be confused too, but when I called golden out for making a somewhat real case against me and talking about me a bunch, it leads me right back to what I already said:
Wolf is under pressure
They cannot act confused as well as town will. They will need to choose targets
So if I see myself becoming a target
I follow it back
But nobody interacted with me on this
I think my logic is sound and followable but I can also see that mech and lies about mech are muddling the pool of potentials more than my viewpoints making logical town sense

my point largely is that if you are town, you are in a unique position of knowing for a fact everyone else is wrong

I'm not asking for a big case. just what your gut says. from your perspective, it is one of us. who do you pick?

See below. I've had this same perspective all day

Or above. Whatever I'm sleep deprived

[Dyslexicon]

For the record, I'm rereading your ISO Porscha

[Dyslexicon]

I've laid out my reasons for town reading Golden. And I don't think you've interacted much with that either. Maybe you just disagree or think those aren't good reasons.

[Party Crasher]

I am laying in bed wrapped up in my blanket anxiously awaiting eod and praying to god this torture ends

Just in case that was helpful

-t

[Party Crasher]

Honest to god I dont know. I think I'd have to go dizzy

But I dont recall sloonei claiming anything
Goldens role is stupid convoluted
Your role sounds like svs

It could be sloonei getting thru on mech rondo was sure he had
It could be golden came up with a fucking baller role claim early that hes been able to just add shit onto that sounds reasonable
Dizzy could be getting by on ate and convenience of enders vote last night
PC could have offed rondo as a level 1 play to wifom

Like if you do not know then I do not know why you expect me to pull an answer out of my ass just because I'm on the chopping block

thank you

[Porscha]

I've laid out my reasons for town reading Golden. And I don't think you've interacted much with that either. Maybe you just disagree or think those aren't good reasons.

I probably didnt have much to say cuz I've been tr'ing golden since like day 2. I stuck up for him when others were more suspicious, even

So the trouble is that I'm largely tr'ing golden on multiple factors: his scuffle with mac had me trust reading him (not ideal for gameplay but that's the truth) and I felt he has done a good job sounding towny and solving without tmi
His role, while it gives him points, also is my biggest point of contention in how I feel about him
How convoluted it is, the parts he has said we dont know, the parts he has added on - it all makes sense and adds up enough, but maybe its ... made up or half truths. I dont know

[Porscha]

Like in terms of golden, he could be telling half truths about his role. He did out right claim that's what he was doing early on, no problem dodge soup fool wolves yada yada

But if we are running on the premise that sig did in fact shoot alison, then goldens redirect story is actually unaccounted for and unconfirmed (disregarding reads in thread that seem to back up his point that he baited alison)
No other person he claimed to neighbor survived long enough to claim this was true (pot calling the kettle black here, I know)
And as I think... PC pushed him on earlier, about why would he try to neighbor neon and rondo, I felt like goldens reason were really half baked (like half baked enough that I thought maybe hes just town and didnt feel like he had to over justify his decisions) but maybe he really just didnt have a good answer and played it sly by letting it go by as if it wasnt a big deal or worth making a fuss about

Like idk man sometimes a game presents you an opportunity when you're wolfing and you take it and run with it and so far golden has Usain bolted with it wonderfully but how much can we really trust about his claim? What proof is there really? (I legitimately may be forgetting elements please let me know if I am)

Also I cant forget what may have been a pocket attempt when pc called golden an innocent child (I also feel like golden would know what an innocent child is but I didnt push it back then) and when I told golden to hold my hand he said he would

Most people refuse and or deny my attempts at affection or flirtation so for golden to respond to it very openly made me raise an eyebrow. Maybe twas pocket since I was shielding him at the time. Idk

[Party Crasher]

kate confirmed the existence of the neighbourhood, but that's really all we have

[Party Crasher]

this game

[Dyslexicon]

I've been going back and forth in my mind so many times. Reading Porscha's iso, I feel better about my vote and not worse.

[Party Crasher]

I've been going back and forth in my mind so many times. Reading Porscha's iso, I feel better about my vote and not worse.

gah
I really don't think it's porscha tbh but I don't know who it is

~sheep

[Sloonei]

I enjoyed my first obligation-free day in weeks a little too much. I neglected to do more heavy ISO reading in here. But I am not uncomfortable with the decision to vote for Porscha.

If the game does not end in an hour, I believe it is because Party Crasher is a lone wolf.

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sorry if this is incorrect, Porscha.

[Sloonei]

I've been going back and forth in my mind so many times. Reading Porscha's iso, I feel better about my vote and not worse.

gah
I really don't think it's porscha tbh but I don't know who it is

~sheep

Why do you not think it’s porscha?