notorious hedgehog 14 player mafia game wow! game thread [game over mafia won]

[Cape90]

i will keep in mind jaiden has pocketed me when they were scum before

[robyn]

hmmm

[Cape90]

calcs going through my head like

i don't know if w!sheep just refuses to vote me

[robyn]

my gut is still screaming at me that pyxxy is a wolf

[Cape90]

there was also Sheep voting falcon the other day which makes me think that team is unlikely

[pyxxy]

D1 VCA:
DrWilgy (1): Porscha
Neon (4): falcon, Bereft, Syn, Sheep
Bereft (5): Seanzie, pyxxy, DrWilgy, Cape, Rondo
pyxxy (3): Le petit, lucy, Neon
Unvote (1): tutuu/Jaiden

N1 NK: Le petit

D2 VCA:
DrWilgy (7): Cape, Syn, Porscha, Seanzie, Rondo, Neon, tutuu/Jaiden
Syn (3): falcon, DrWilgy, lucy
did not vote (1): pyxxy

N2 NKs: Rondo and Neon

D3 VCA:
Syn (1): Seanzie
Seanzie (4): Porscha, pyxxy, falcon, Syn
falcon (2): Sheep, Cape
did not vote (1): tutuu/Jaiden

N3 NK: Porscha

@Cape90 fuck it, does VCA just townclear you? Can't believe crayons help me see things so much clearer. There's no reason for scum to have two on the Bereft wagon.

(that last sentence is the logical inverse of a perspective slip)

[Syn]

there was also Sheep voting falcon the other day which makes me think that team is unlikely

falcon has been sheep's go-to scum read throughout the game, when all else fails

[robyn]

i hate not being able to verbalize reads

[Cape90]

my gut is still screaming at me that pyxxy is a wolf

i have found their content a bit towny today? I think Syn's content is townier but pyxxy has picked up the WIM

[pyxxy]

my gut is still screaming at me that pyxxy is a wolf

Would you mind not pushing my wagon today and not picking me as the NK tonight so that we can thunderdome tomorrow?

Pretty please

[Syn]

There's no reason for scum to have two on the Bereft wagon.

(that last sentence is the logical inverse of a perspective slip)

explain

[robyn]

my gut is still screaming at me that pyxxy is a wolf

i have found their content a bit towny today? I think Syn's content is townier but pyxxy has picked up the WIM

wim is irrelevant/nai at this stage of the game when people are barely posting imo

[robyn]

other thoughts i cant believe sean's gimmick has grown on me, it was so annoying to me at first

if I was weak doctor I would heal tutuu tonight, subject to change

weird post that focuses on seanzie

[Jaiden Underwood]

pyxxy, do you know the tale of icarus

I LOVE ICARUSPOSTING I LOVE ICARUSPOSTING

[pyxxy]

i think i'm somewhat easy to find as town but i think cape has been obv town entire game, i am however curious because it's accurate cape hasn't been pushed yet however i still tr him and i chalk that up to the t/t violence of me/rondo/syn

that's a good point

regardless i think jaiden town now and i want the chop to be on pyxxy/sheep, believe there's a wolf in there but i'm still leaning towards pyxxy

we are at an impasse because between those 2 im leaning sheep

i felt like unvoting jaiden too though

am i drunk or has pyxxy pushed jaiden?

god i haven't followed this game as closely as i should've

I have, it was earlier today

like this post didn't sell me in the moment

and the fact that cape has continued to make the most effort pushing me and sheep, who were the two people he wrote the most about here (besides townlock Porscha)

big meh from me on Cape

that's because besides porscha, you were the other first 2 I read, then it became 20 til EOD and I had to rush out other things

that's pretty reasonable and mentally this merged into my VCA clears you logic, idk if scum you rushes a post like that because why would you need to

[Jaiden Underwood]

pyxxy/tutuu/sheep is my poe

which do u wanna go first @Cape90

i would have to reread tutuu's earlier days but i do feel like Jaiden has felt like they have been verbally stalling out this game. So maybe them

what do these words mean. what does any of these mean
you voted me after this so theres more to your read than this. right?
i dont appreciate being pushed and having no way to defend myself

you have your words to defend you and I am a player who likes reconsidering things, for better or for worse.

To me if felt like you were making posts, but not exactly solving for the game minus a few instances, but wholistically it felt like you were doing this thing to where you were avoiding reading the whole game and making up that by having some activity

and you believe that to be scummy

[robyn]

@lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu

lucy: I played against scum lucy in Holes mafia, lucy has no wim in that game tho, and I didn't get the impression that scum lucy is normally without wim. however, I'm liking these lucy vibes. tr

wilgy: I cannot read wilgy (atm?) and would rather abstain from commenting on wilgy. tbh I'm gonna unvote wilgy so that's clear since my wilgy vote was a joke anyway

cape: I think I've watched cape get D1'd as town twice now, which would be really funny if it weren't so sad. seems like the same cape that got pushed over those times. tr

neon: I hate the "I'm booooooooooooored" posts. I also hate when Sabi makes them. equally opportunity hating from me. but they're NAI _atm_ for Neon imo. otoh scum neon was with scum lucy in Holes mafia and I got to see that too...so, neon neutral, leaning town

tutuu: self-indulgent to include yourself in this question. neutral, but hard read you're the rolestopper in case I'm right and can claim town credit later

the only good content here is meta and nothing about actual events in game even though he previously said he was catching up and reading

[Cape90]

D1 VCA:
DrWilgy (1): Porscha
Neon (4): falcon, Bereft, Syn, Sheep
Bereft (5): Seanzie, pyxxy, DrWilgy, Cape, Rondo
pyxxy (3): Le petit, lucy, Neon
Unvote (1): tutuu/Jaiden

N1 NK: Le petit

D2 VCA:
DrWilgy (7): Cape, Syn, Porscha, Seanzie, Rondo, Neon, tutuu/Jaiden
Syn (3): falcon, DrWilgy, lucy
did not vote (1): pyxxy

N2 NKs: Rondo and Neon

D3 VCA:
Syn (1): Seanzie
Seanzie (4): Porscha, pyxxy, falcon, Syn
falcon (2): Sheep, Cape
did not vote (1): tutuu/Jaiden

N3 NK: Porscha

@Cape90 fuck it, does VCA just townclear you? Can't believe crayons help me see things so much clearer. There's no reason for scum to have two on the Bereft wagon.

(that last sentence is the logical inverse of a perspective slip)

Well I am town but I don't think that townclears me. Obviously it establishes it's not both me and you obviously but 2 scum could be on the Bereft wagon, obviously i think 1 is on the Neon wagon and would rather push in that group.

the only person that was on the neon wagon that was not on the Seanzie wagon is Sheep

But this is a PSYOP to make me townclear you and not fall for that lucy amirite

[pyxxy]

There's no reason for scum to have two on the Bereft wagon.

(that last sentence is the logical inverse of a perspective slip)

explain

My understanding of a perspective slip is when a town/scum writes something that would never occur to the other half.

Me writing that sentence knowing that everyone will read that sentence and possibly call me townie or scummy for writing that sentence would be towny for other people, but not for me, which makes me writing that sentence towny.

Lemme know if you need to hit the bong before reading that

[Syn]

There's no reason for scum to have two on the Bereft wagon.

(that last sentence is the logical inverse of a perspective slip)

explain

My understanding of a perspective slip is when a town/scum writes something that would never occur to the other half.

Me writing that sentence knowing that everyone will read that sentence and possibly call me townie or scummy for writing that sentence would be towny for other people, but not for me, which makes me writing that sentence towny.

Lemme know if you need to hit the bong before reading that

explain why two scum wouldn't be on a d1 wagon

[robyn]

search.php?author_id=1029&t=2482
read le petit's ISO and there's something about the lucy situation

reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

i meant to comment on this post as i found it noteworthy for Le Petit just kinda coming in and announcing that lucy will be a ML

Read these pages again. It's literally lucy who was posting this. It's not a me read.

like, cape's not wrong here, and after this le petit goes off and does some medium strength sussing of wilgy, but then ends with

gn

gn. Sad we couldn't realtime more. (week ends are sucky time for me to play smh)

Hopefully we can chat closer to EOD

when the two of them didn't even really talk at all? like le petit showed up, tried to talk about wilgy instead with tutuu

Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

towny for wilgy?

how? (like they have history with Neon or something?)

that's the whole case from me, I'm not good at this, just felt something was off, didnt even read bereft or syn and I gtg soon

[VOTE: le petit] aubergine

this is a terrible post and let petite had 4 votes on him at one point

[pyxxy]

where did all this lucy wim come from and why is it entirely directed at me

lucy I asked to thunderdome tomorrow not today, I'm not going to fight you today

[robyn]

Well I am town but I don't think that townclears me

there's a "tmi" accusation here but i don't know how much i believe that myself lol

[robyn]

where did all this lucy wim come from and why is it entirely directed at me

lucy I asked to thunderdome tomorrow not today, I'm not going to fight you today

wdym, you've been my sr since d3 or so

have you not iso'ed me?

[Cape90]

okay what is hammer?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

also lucy if you could do the days until KILO math again that would be appreciated

tagging, not tagging, nothing I do can summon lucy :/

5v2 <===== we are here
if we miskill
3v2

my townreads are Syn and tutuu

I want to townread falcon because he's being scummy but he's pushing it today into very scummy with his completely afk behavior which would make him scum by his own logic

Syn is for multiple reasons e.g. pushing Seanzie yesterday, the Sheep push today, being part of the (self-described) attempt for Syn/lucy thunderdome

re-reading tutuu gave me a townread on them from Seanzie interactions, but inciting the Wilgy wagon is a big scary warning sign and Jaiden hasn't helped clarify the slot at all (not a critique subbing is hard and underappreciated)

Spoiler: show

weird w/w or not w/w pairs that I've collected in my notes since D1

I don't know if they mean anything but I want to try refining them tomorrow

D1:
lucy cape not w/w
tutuu lucy not w/w?
lucy/tutuu w/w for heavy tutuu defense
rondo/tutuu not w/w, too much of the same role in the thread? [ed note: I meant like, behavior or what their job on a scum team would be]
cape/lucy not w/w because why would cape post about lucy again when no pressure on cape?

D2:
nothing bc it got hammered and I didn't post that much

D3:
ah um looks like I didn't make any w/w reads

D4:
let's pretend like I never make this spoiler and just ignore this part of the post, I really thought I had something here and I'm embarrassed myself

[robyn]

okay what is hammer?

4 i believe

[Jaiden Underwood]

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

holy hell

[Cape90]

i think i'm somewhat easy to find as town but i think cape has been obv town entire game, i am however curious because it's accurate cape hasn't been pushed yet however i still tr him and i chalk that up to the t/t violence of me/rondo/syn

sometimes i dont get pushed in games

on the syndicate i do

sometimes i just dont

[Syn]

also lucy if you could do the days until KILO math again that would be appreciated

tagging, not tagging, nothing I do can summon lucy :/

5v2 <===== we are here
if we miskill
3v2

my townreads are Syn and tutuu

I want to townread falcon because he's being scummy but he's pushing it today into very scummy with his completely afk behavior which would make him scum by his own logic

Syn is for multiple reasons e.g. pushing Seanzie yesterday, the Sheep push today, being part of the (self-described) attempt for Syn/lucy thunderdome

re-reading tutuu gave me a townread on them from Seanzie interactions, but inciting the Wilgy wagon is a big scary warning sign and Jaiden hasn't helped clarify the slot at all (not a critique subbing is hard and underappreciated)

Spoiler: show

weird w/w or not w/w pairs that I've collected in my notes since D1

I don't know if they mean anything but I want to try refining them tomorrow

D1:
lucy cape not w/w
tutuu lucy not w/w?
lucy/tutuu w/w for heavy tutuu defense
rondo/tutuu not w/w, too much of the same role in the thread? [ed note: I meant like, behavior or what their job on a scum team would be]
cape/lucy not w/w because why would cape post about lucy again when no pressure on cape?

D2:
nothing bc it got hammered and I didn't post that much

D3:
ah um looks like I didn't make any w/w reads

D4:
let's pretend like I never make this spoiler and just ignore this part of the post, I really thought I had something here and I'm embarrassed myself

the return of the king

[robyn]

i think i'm somewhat easy to find as town but i think cape has been obv town entire game, i am however curious because it's accurate cape hasn't been pushed yet however i still tr him and i chalk that up to the t/t violence of me/rondo/syn

sometimes i dont get pushed in games

on the syndicate i do

sometimes i just dont

i'll always push you up against things uwu

[Syn]

i think i'm somewhat easy to find as town but i think cape has been obv town entire game, i am however curious because it's accurate cape hasn't been pushed yet however i still tr him and i chalk that up to the t/t violence of me/rondo/syn

sometimes i dont get pushed in games

on the syndicate i do

sometimes i just dont

i too sometimes get pushed and sometimes don't

[Jaiden Underwood]

i will keep in mind jaiden has pocketed me when they were scum before

i did??? that was like my first scumgame in 2 years and i exploded after i realised i had to claim a limited use ti. which i hate

[robyn]

@Jaiden Underwood are u like 14 btw?

[Cape90]

i think i'm somewhat easy to find as town but i think cape has been obv town entire game, i am however curious because it's accurate cape hasn't been pushed yet however i still tr him and i chalk that up to the t/t violence of me/rondo/syn

sometimes i dont get pushed in games

on the syndicate i do

sometimes i just dont

lucy was anyone pushing me in that one game that you were AlphaZero? Like seriously pushing me?

[Jaiden Underwood]

@Jaiden Underwood are u like 14 btw?

simple secrets

[Cape90]

i will keep in mind jaiden has pocketed me when they were scum before

i did??? that was like my first scumgame in 2 years and i exploded after i realised i had to claim a limited use ti. which i hate

yeah i thought u were town like that whole time lol

[falcon45ca]

[pyxxy]

There's no reason for scum to have two on the Bereft wagon.

(that last sentence is the logical inverse of a perspective slip)

explain

My understanding of a perspective slip is when a town/scum writes something that would never occur to the other half.

Me writing that sentence knowing that everyone will read that sentence and possibly call me townie or scummy for writing that sentence would be towny for other people, but not for me, which makes me writing that sentence towny.

Lemme know if you need to hit the bong before reading that

explain why two scum wouldn't be on a d1 wagon

In my opinion it's because of how the EOD D1 shook out. Remember Sean and Wilgy moving around? (lmao Sean's ISO is broken for me rn idk why but I swear he moved)

Why do you think that two scum would be happy to be on the same wagon D1 when all three wagons are town wagons? (since I'm town)

Why not spread around who looks bad depending on who flips in the future? Especially since scum didn't plan to flip Neon D2/N2, so the scum (I think it's 1, you can say 2, that's fine) on there is still mostly hidden, which points to Sheep/falcon.

[robyn]

i think i'm somewhat easy to find as town but i think cape has been obv town entire game, i am however curious because it's accurate cape hasn't been pushed yet however i still tr him and i chalk that up to the t/t violence of me/rondo/syn

sometimes i dont get pushed in games

on the syndicate i do

sometimes i just dont

lucy was anyone pushing me in that one game that you were AlphaZero? Like seriously pushing me?

i just checked all 3 games appearing under alphazero's account and can't find in any that u played

[Cape90]

@pyxxy wanna murder me itd be funny

I do but I'm waiting for falcon to show up before making any more moves

whys that you silly old goose

oh sorry didn't realize this was a serious question

because of what I said before:

unfortunately I am sleeping soon

I still have the heeby jeebies about how often Seanzie was specifically talking to falcon when falcon was not posting so well, but hey Porscha was 80% sure they were town so who am I to suspect someone who feels obvious.

But maybe killing outside of falcon is optimal because I think if we get the other mafia, it's easy to find out if the last mafia is even paying attention or not, that would feel maybe easy to gauge tbh. My guess is even if falcon is mafia, he probably isn't paying that much attention anyways and if he is not then he is town, I would assume if we kill a mafia and the next night kill makes sense, falcon is town

so i just talked myself out of voting falcon just now wow im so cool and tired

my very tired 3am gut read is that if we miss today, town falcon will appear in MILO, and if not, we kill him and it's his fault

if he doesn't show at all, implied in this is that he then would not be voting today, then I'm gonna majorly scumread him for it because that's beyond regular scummy falcon

as we saw yesterday, falcon was willing to leave his vote on Sean and then afk

Syn had that as a townread on falcon, I do too, but if falcon doesn't repeat the same behavior today _when there is much less certainty about how is a wolf_, that's scummy

well, you did say this about falcon

[pyxxy]

god the game is so much more fun when people choose to participate!!!!!!

[Syn]

There's no reason for scum to have two on the Bereft wagon.

(that last sentence is the logical inverse of a perspective slip)

explain

My understanding of a perspective slip is when a town/scum writes something that would never occur to the other half.

Me writing that sentence knowing that everyone will read that sentence and possibly call me townie or scummy for writing that sentence would be towny for other people, but not for me, which makes me writing that sentence towny.

Lemme know if you need to hit the bong before reading that

explain why two scum wouldn't be on a d1 wagon

In my opinion it's because of how the EOD D1 shook out. Remember Sean and Wilgy moving around? (lmao Sean's ISO is broken for me rn idk why but I swear he moved)

Why do you think that two scum would be happy to be on the same wagon D1 when all three wagons are town wagons? (since I'm town)

Why not spread around who looks bad depending on who flips in the future? Especially since scum didn't plan to flip Neon D2/N2, so the scum (I think it's 1, you can say 2, that's fine) on there is still mostly hidden, which points to Sheep/falcon.

weird read but thanks for the answer i guess

[Cape90]

i think i'm somewhat easy to find as town but i think cape has been obv town entire game, i am however curious because it's accurate cape hasn't been pushed yet however i still tr him and i chalk that up to the t/t violence of me/rondo/syn

sometimes i dont get pushed in games

on the syndicate i do

sometimes i just dont

lucy was anyone pushing me in that one game that you were AlphaZero? Like seriously pushing me?

i just checked all 3 games appearing under alphazero's account and can't find in any that u played

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... at-Taffy-s

I mean

I got OMGUSed

but not really pushed

not over others

[Jaiden Underwood]

i will keep in mind jaiden has pocketed me when they were scum before

i did??? that was like my first scumgame in 2 years and i exploded after i realised i had to claim a limited use ti. which i hate

yeah i thought u were town like that whole time lol

thats fair im like the greatest to ever do it

[robyn]

There's no reason for scum to have two on the Bereft wagon.

(that last sentence is the logical inverse of a perspective slip)

explain

My understanding of a perspective slip is when a town/scum writes something that would never occur to the other half.

Me writing that sentence knowing that everyone will read that sentence and possibly call me townie or scummy for writing that sentence would be towny for other people, but not for me, which makes me writing that sentence towny.

Lemme know if you need to hit the bong before reading that

explain why two scum wouldn't be on a d1 wagon

In my opinion it's because of how the EOD D1 shook out. Remember Sean and Wilgy moving around? (lmao Sean's ISO is broken for me rn idk why but I swear he moved)

Why do you think that two scum would be happy to be on the same wagon D1 when all three wagons are town wagons? (since I'm town)

Why not spread around who looks bad depending on who flips in the future? Especially since scum didn't plan to flip Neon D2/N2, so the scum (I think it's 1, you can say 2, that's fine) on there is still mostly hidden, which points to Sheep/falcon.

this is clever because you imply all d1 wagons were town when 3 town and at one point like 4-5 town were on you on day 1 wagons

[Syn]

reads list

go

dance for me

[Cape90]

you left the game

but still

[pyxxy]

pyxxy/tutuu/sheep is my poe

which do u wanna go first @Cape90

i would have to reread tutuu's earlier days but i do feel like Jaiden has felt like they have been verbally stalling out this game. So maybe them

what do these words mean. what does any of these mean
you voted me after this so theres more to your read than this. right?
i dont appreciate being pushed and having no way to defend myself

you have your words to defend you and I am a player who likes reconsidering things, for better or for worse.

To me if felt like you were making posts, but not exactly solving for the game minus a few instances, but wholistically it felt like you were doing this thing to where you were avoiding reading the whole game and making up that by having some activity

and you believe that to be scummy

I imagine Jaiden saying this with a posh British accent and wearing the biggest wig in the world