Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:20 pm
I still cement there's at minimum 1 wolf in rondo/lucygame
bro... are you powerwolfing or what?
I am town and I tr Rondo for how his approach this game and chaotic Rondo is NAI, but the way they have kept everyone engaged and constantly pestering people's reads and even pushing on Wind is rand>townie imo.
No I'm quite literally town.
Rondo is a shell of himself. There's no pure town pings from him at all and I'm good at reading Rondo. He hasn't towntold or done anything that is giving me genuine feels.
?
You said the same about your slot and you'll see that you are incorrect.
You were suprised about his treatment of my slot because you thought we could be w/w, but once I flip town, doesn't that change somewhat? Do you think he would be TMI'ing me or something?
Put yourself in my perspective.
You host a game.
Lucy has meltdown. Rondo finds lucy wolf. All of town ignores him.
Lucy wins.
You come to this game.
Lucy has meltdown. Rondo doesn't care or notice and says she town.
Please tell me am I wrong for sussing him?
Technically your order of operations is wrong.
Rondo pushed lucy in hedgehog. Lucy went toxic. Lucy won the game.
I pushed lucy this game. Lucy got toxic. The rest we don't know.
But the thing is Rondo pushed lucy and caused the meltdown in hedgehog. Whereas he did not push her here and had consistently TRd her.
Which is why I'm weirded out by Rondo not even looking at both games and trying to solve that.
Irt Dennis, my only issue was with their conflict in internal conviction with how they believe the gamestate is one where mafia are just blindly sheeping each other and laying back and eating popcorn. Yet then Dennis under that gamestate presumption votes me.
It feels a bit odd and goes against their gamestate views. Hence internal conviction conflict that feels scummy.
arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:17 pm
Also, I will say that for the people that are townreading me, they could be mafia in 2 scenarios:
1. If pxxy is town, that means today is v/v wagons and mafia can afford to pick either side knowing that they’ll be ok no matter what happens. So they can easily tr me to look good and if there isn’t enough substance behind it, then it’s indicative of tmi.
2. If majority of the people on my wagon are town and given my slot is a sinking ship, the mafia outside can easily tr me and keep their hands clean and eat popcorn while pushing the blame on the others who are on my wagon and attempt to look good after my flip.
The thing is, I believe currently both scenarios are unlikely especially scenario 2. So I believe it’s likely that majority of the mafia are in a “sheeping” gamestate while also just attempting to push ml’s for “meh” reasons.
I do believe nook/rondo/Porscha/wind are my top town and if you disagree on Nook then skill issue tbh
Idrk how else to explain the tr there but it’s more of a vibe and feel that people are pushing him for “general mafia things” but not really analysing nook as a player and that his actions are not “scummy for Nanook.”
This is my gamestate read!! Remember this!
At this time, pxxy and I were tied at 5 votes!
I believe Falcon/Lily/Sabi/Dennis/pxxy were voting me at the time? But it was basically we were tied wagons at 5.
Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:03 pm
caught up here's you go
Dennis - towny > scummy meh > scum
DrWilgy - scummy > towny > town
falcon45ca - scummy > towny
Kate - scummy > kinda feel like Dennis is TMIing her town
Lilypetal - town > towny
lucy - scummy > scum > scummy > scum > scummy > Arogame > scummy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - towny
Neon - town
Porscha - town > lock town never rescind
pyxxy - scummy > scum
RondoDimBuckle - scummy > towny
Sabiplz - scummy
Seanzie - scummy > towny
tutuu - scummy > towny > scum
WindwardAway - scummy > towny > town
Which three are you most likely wrong on?
All of them
Like if lucy was right about anything she said to me it's that I suck I lose...a lot. So. With that said. And the fact that I've been unable to look at this thread without crying at times lol my head has not been clear when reading the game.
I'm confident on anyone that says town. Not towny just town. Those are the only reads I'd say should be deeply trusted.
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:30 pm
Also, the people that believe the “mafia are sheeping and lurking in the sidelines” based on gamestate vibe, yet are voting me as a victim of that “gamestate” read are scummy imo, which is also why I sr Dennise.
I feel their vote on me followed with their statement of their view of the game-state is internally inconsistent and scummy imo.
This too is another gamestate read,
Basically idea is I believe it's likely that mafia are laying back today and just eating popcorn tbh.
It's esp true if pxxy is town given earlier wagons.
arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:30 pm
Also, the people that believe the “mafia are sheeping and lurking in the sidelines” based on gamestate vibe, yet are voting me as a victim of that “gamestate” read are scummy imo, which is also why I sr Dennise.
I feel their vote on me followed with their statement of their view of the game-state is internally inconsistent and scummy imo.
This too is another gamestate read,
Basically idea is I believe it's likely that mafia are laying back today and just eating popcorn tbh.
It's esp true if pxxy is town given earlier wagons.
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:20 pm
I still cement there's at minimum 1 wolf in rondo/lucygame
bro... are you powerwolfing or what?
I am town and I tr Rondo for how his approach this game and chaotic Rondo is NAI, but the way they have kept everyone engaged and constantly pestering people's reads and even pushing on Wind is rand>townie imo.
No I'm quite literally town.
Rondo is a shell of himself. There's no pure town pings from him at all and I'm good at reading Rondo. He hasn't towntold or done anything that is giving me genuine feels.
You really haven't obv towned
Because I ruined that ability once I was able to copy that as wolf
I disagree. You've obv towned since than. Especially sabi inv ... you were just obvious town which is why I wanted to obsessively get you mixexed because than we could NK someone else.
I don't know why others didn't see that.
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:53 pm
Irt Dennis, my only issue was with their conflict in internal conviction with how they believe the gamestate is one where mafia are just blindly sheeping each other and laying back and eating popcorn. Yet then Dennis under that gamestate presumption votes me.
It feels a bit odd and goes against their gamestate views. Hence internal conviction conflict that feels scummy.
@Seanzie
I don't think people like it when I defend myself but I'm gonna go for it
I think I brought this up and I was talking about people sheeping porscha, of which there wasn't many (2 or 3?) at the time. So I really doubt all of them were, I think there is 0 chance that huuge fight breaks out if a mafia isn't in there fiddling about, but it was an idea. It supports my nook read too so I'm standing by it
arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:30 pm
Also, the people that believe the “mafia are sheeping and lurking in the sidelines” based on gamestate vibe, yet are voting me as a victim of that “gamestate” read are scummy imo, which is also why I sr Dennise.
I feel their vote on me followed with their statement of their view of the game-state is internally inconsistent and scummy imo.
This too is another gamestate read,
Basically idea is I believe it's likely that mafia are laying back today and just eating popcorn tbh.
It's esp true if pxxy is town given earlier wagons.
Who are these people?
Well I stated Deniss was one of them. There were others as well so you'd have to look back .
But I am quoting these for reference when town needs to look back if they are in a dire position
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:44 pmWindwardAway
Porscha
Lilypetal
Neon
pyxxy
Sabiplz
DrWilgy
tutuu
Dennis
falcon45ca
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle
lucy/Aro
I started from my earlier list, and didn't think too hard. I don't know if I can actually explain why Pyxxy and Sabi went up, but they did. Dennis I waffled because of a few posts that looked kind of townie, but saw some more that pinged me, so they went down a little. I decided to just join the entire lower-than-null group into one because I don't know if I could pick a main suspect out of those 4, and Lucy/Aro I don't feel as confident as I did earlier, but I do think they are by far the best chop, so I'mma just leave them there.
If you seriously have me this low you should probably chop me tomorrow, especially if lucy flips wolf
I strongly disagree
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:53 pm
Irt Dennis, my only issue was with their conflict in internal conviction with how they believe the gamestate is one where mafia are just blindly sheeping each other and laying back and eating popcorn. Yet then Dennis under that gamestate presumption votes me.
It feels a bit odd and goes against their gamestate views. Hence internal conviction conflict that feels scummy.
@Seanzie
I don't think people like it when I defend myself but I'm gonna go for it
I think I brought this up and I was talking about people sheeping porscha, of which there wasn't many (2 or 3?) at the time. So I really doubt all of them were, I think there is 0 chance that huuge fight breaks out if a mafia isn't in there fiddling about, but it was an idea. It supports my nook read too so I'm standing by it
arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:53 pm
Irt Dennis, my only issue was with their conflict in internal conviction with how they believe the gamestate is one where mafia are just blindly sheeping each other and laying back and eating popcorn. Yet then Dennis under that gamestate presumption votes me.
It feels a bit odd and goes against their gamestate views. Hence internal conviction conflict that feels scummy.
@Seanzie
I don't think people like it when I defend myself but I'm gonna go for it
I think I brought this up and I was talking about people sheeping porscha, of which there wasn't many (2 or 3?) at the time. So I really doubt all of them were, I think there is 0 chance that huuge fight breaks out if a mafia isn't in there fiddling about, but it was an idea. It supports my nook read too so I'm standing by it
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
ill wall post so i dont get capped again. gotta take it seriously now
pyxxy, sabi, falcon, wilgy is my poe
rondo was in it too, as i was making notes during the night. him dying makes this easier (for me)
as i said i started getting cold feet on lucy. porscha made a solid point about how lucy being consensus scumread doesnt look likely for her to be mafia. rondo townreading her also made me realize that its optimal to go for rondo first (thats why i voted him)
rondo's reasons to tr lucy were sus, as sabi pointed out. he could have had tmi. or he was town with his crazy reads. in either case it made more sense to go for him first
i also rethinked about lucy - when she left her final legacy being me mafia and a scumread on kate/wwa - it was entirely based off me being mafia. but she didnt point it out. so there was some thought process there she just didnt word it
nook is cool with me. i dont think anyone else with his posts is towny, but for him they're fine. aro is very confident that nook is town and ill sheep
i think everyone else outside my poe should be obv town? neon should be obv town, i dont remember whos left
so, back to my poe. ill dedicate a separate post for them
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:10 pm
I looked at lucy in hedgehog overnight and I can't say I blame the people who were pushing her for AtE cuz they looked pretty similar
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:10 pm
I looked at lucy in hedgehog overnight and I can't say I blame the people who were pushing her for AtE cuz they looked pretty similar
At least we learned it's NAI
Which is still awful and should not be a thing. It should not be eclectic that someone will react that way as either alignment let alone both
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
pyxxy could be mafia because he made some posts that made me feel weird as i was reading them. as in, they had sussy parts
he felt out of tune
pyxxy as a villager gets mischopped every game
in hedgehog he got upset after it happened
in here, lets see from his lens if he's town:
u are pyxxy. u are town. u have lucy (who u think is mafia) emulating hedgehog 2.0
and yet, u and lucy are both at 5 votes each. u are competing wagons
and yet?
no emotion from pyxxy. no frustration. no anger
just some goofy out of tune posts
therefore, mafia
NOW
sabi expressed a confident townread on pyxxy
and that, similar to rondo + lucy, makes me feel like going for sabi first is optimal
sabi + pyxxy could be w/w
sabi could be mafia with TMI on pyxxy town
both of those seem reasonable
this is only bad if sabi is town and wrongly townread mafia pyxxy
but i dont wanna believe that. i wanna have faith in ppl that their meta reads on ppl they should know well (and sabi should know pyxxy well) - should be good
ergo, going for sabi before pyxxy makes sense to me
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:10 pm
I looked at lucy in hedgehog overnight and I can't say I blame the people who were pushing her for AtE cuz they looked pretty similar
At least we learned it's NAI
Some of us were saying it yesterday, shrugze
Really? If so I missed that (or at least don't remember it) other than lucy herself but I hadn't seen it as either alignment myself so I couldn't really trust her
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:15 pm
Like not 100% obviously but it looks like a doc dodge and most teams just kill wwa in the 6 setup right
Mm I don't do mech cause I suck at it but this sounds reasonably correct
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:10 pm
I looked at lucy in hedgehog overnight and I can't say I blame the people who were pushing her for AtE cuz they looked pretty similar
At least we learned it's NAI
Some of us were saying it yesterday, shrugze
Really? If so I missed that (or at least don't remember it) other than lucy herself but I hadn't seen it as either alignment myself so I couldn't really trust her
I was calling her town consistently and said the AtE didn't make her mafia
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:15 pm
Like not 100% obviously but it looks like a doc dodge and most teams just kill wwa in the 6 setup right
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