[END] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game

[Marmot]

I didn't realize the cap would lift, but that's good.

Your cap was actually lowered.

Huh?

Spoiler: show

I was joking teehee

[Creature]

I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.

I wish there was a wagon other than Scotty to offer more choices. Scotty is a fine choice given his contributions thus far, but I'm slightly put off by the fact that he has technically made townie posts. If anyone wants to give me a name to ISO, I will.

I could maybe help you push it if that doesn't get me mislynched.

I might have more posts than you, but I just got here like 40 minutes ago, so I'm also playing a little blind and uncaught-up atm.

I'm in the same situation as you and that's why I am entertaining other wagons. Though, I partly also dislike being part of an EOD thunderdome.

[Creature]

Thoughts on santygrass?

[pyxxy]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

man my definition of pocketing is WAY different than reading someone's iso and not seeing the thing being touted as a reason to vote them

Who told you besides Sporty that her defensiveness was why she was being scumread?

I saw you ask in the thread and waited but I don't remember people responding to you.

What's more the voters are just me Seanzie and Miranda. Miranda made her case pretty clear. Seanzie is gone atm. I'm active but you didn't tag me or anything (not a crime ofc), but my initial case on Sporty was about a gut feeling. I specifically said it wasn't about tone when she and I talked about it (or at least that's how I remember it).

Your clearing of Sporty seems too confident given its development.

Sorry if this is just me being unfamiliar with you and your playstyle *nods in acceptance* but I find you sus.

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

I don’t disagree with this, especially since I’m usually a “I can’t read Sporty” for people

there's a difference between "i don't want to push here today" and "I feel strongly sporty is a villager" though and i feel like you guys are acting like they're the same fucking thing

That's fair.

So when you came into the thread, you saw the top 3 wagons and figured that was a good place to start solving?

(if you answer yes then I'll probably shift to townleaning you )

[Marmot]

I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.

I wish there was a wagon other than Scotty to offer more choices. Scotty is a fine choice given his contributions thus far, but I'm slightly put off by the fact that he has technically made townie posts. If anyone wants to give me a name to ISO, I will.

I could maybe help you push it if that doesn't get me mislynched.

I might have more posts than you, but I just got here like 40 minutes ago, so I'm also playing a little blind and uncaught-up atm.

I'm in the same situation as you and that's why I am entertaining other wagons. Though, I partly also dislike being part of an EOD thunderdome.

Why are you voting Scotty atm?

[mightyrunner7]

I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.

I wish there was a wagon other than Scotty to offer more choices. Scotty is a fine choice given his contributions thus far, but I'm slightly put off by the fact that he has technically made townie posts. If anyone wants to give me a name to ISO, I will.

This is reasonable. I'm voting Scotty because he has earned the most wolf points, but there are certainly plenty of others with less village points. The problem is most of those have been inactive, so by definition it is hard to learn much from their ISO.

[Animal Midwife]

Thoughts on santygrass?

Impossible. He's been gone for over 24 hours.

[Marmot]

Thoughts on santygrass?

He has

Spoiler: show

skill issue

[SportPonies]

Thoughts on santygrass?

Very good player. Sneaky wolf. AM is good at reading him. Unusual for him to be absent.

[pyxxy]

I don't know how I feel about AM pressing on Dennis on that one particular point though, can anyone tell me if this is AI for AM?

Personally I like it for AM.

I think Seanzie (could be wrong) asked AM if AM focused on cases or tunneled or something like that. I think AM said roughly "nah/not any more than anyone else". But I think it was Seanzie finding another Seanzie-esque player. I townlean Seanzie atm, so I townlean AM by the transitive property of mafia math.

This definitely didn't happen.

@Animal Midwife this exchange:

AM seems to be known for their intensity. Do they tend to focus on specific people and push there?

No, I don’t think I’d say that’s something that AM “tends” to do any more or any less than anyone else.

What does AM tend to do then? Can you give me a TLDR on them?

She analyzes the posts players make, and the gamestate as a whole, decides who she thinks is the wolfiest and votes there.

This sounds like a very passive approach and does not match what I've heard others say about them.

It's how I interpreted this. Just me and my opinion.

I don't understand why Zenge saying something is the same as me saying something.

I don't have the best memory. Forgive me.

[dyachei]

i dont see defensiveness in sporty's posts

wouldnt vote there today

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

man my definition of pocketing is WAY different than reading someone's iso and not seeing the thing being touted as a reason to vote them

Who told you besides Sporty that her defensiveness was why she was being scumread?

I saw you ask in the thread and waited but I don't remember people responding to you.

What's more the voters are just me Seanzie and Miranda. Miranda made her case pretty clear. Seanzie is gone atm. I'm active but you didn't tag me or anything (not a crime ofc), but my initial case on Sporty was about a gut feeling. I specifically said it wasn't about tone when she and I talked about it (or at least that's how I remember it).

Your clearing of Sporty seems too confident given its development.

Sorry if this is just me being unfamiliar with you and your playstyle *nods in acceptance* but I find you sus.

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

I don’t disagree with this, especially since I’m usually a “I can’t read Sporty” for people

there's a difference between "i don't want to push here today" and "I feel strongly sporty is a villager" though and i feel like you guys are acting like they're the same fucking thing

That's fair.

So when you came into the thread, you saw the top 3 wagons and figured that was a good place to start solving?

(if you answer yes then I'll probably shift to townleaning you )

yes, i iso'd all the wagons and players i had heard a lot about

[Animal Midwife]

Actually, it looks like he's been gone for over 36 hours.

[Creature]

I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.

I wish there was a wagon other than Scotty to offer more choices. Scotty is a fine choice given his contributions thus far, but I'm slightly put off by the fact that he has technically made townie posts. If anyone wants to give me a name to ISO, I will.

I could maybe help you push it if that doesn't get me mislynched.

I might have more posts than you, but I just got here like 40 minutes ago, so I'm also playing a little blind and uncaught-up atm.

I'm in the same situation as you and that's why I am entertaining other wagons. Though, I partly also dislike being part of an EOD thunderdome.

Why are you voting Scotty atm?

I initially voted him because I wanted to push a new wagon at the time. Now I feel like I am stuck into voting him or being mislynched.

[dyachei]

so i iso'd

scotty
miranda
creature
sporty

[Creature]

Actually, it looks like he's been gone for over 36 hours.

Bleh

[SportPonies]

Actually, it looks like he's been gone for over 36 hours.

He hasn’t answered my tags on discord either so I hope he’s okay.

[Marmot]

We got more.

Genny:

Spoiler: show

Is this really the place to play a game. I always felt this was a forum to, well, play a game, and discuss issues pertaining to the mafia game player. I look at the other mafia forums and see questions and concerns about their respective chosen votes. I look at the syndicate and see I game playing. At the very least, this just doesn't look professional. I see children here who are not serious about their game playing. Online gaming is fine, but not here.

See, this site needs reacts because this post deserves it's moment in the sun

Agreed, I miss react buttons *sad face*

Don’t you just love it when guests come over and complain about your decor?

I’m excited about all the options for ISOs that I will never do!

Caustic approach. Slightly pessimistic but thoughtful.
You are a crow, and definitely good.

potentialsheltervet:

Spoiler: show

Playing on a forum that doesn't censor profanity feels illegal. And empowering.

Is enriched and strengthened by profanity.

I also [VOTE: sleep] aubergine

So I’m picking you out of the community to ask:

-how are you?
-do you actually handle dogs?
-what’s your least favorite dog?
-if the answer is Scotty, don’t
-I have a mean bark and a terribly ineffective bite
-What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Very tired, actually going to sleep maybe
Yes, the SAR is for search and rescue though I've been out of it a few years now
Probably huskies tbh but I think that's my vet showing
It's ok, Scotties be cool
African or European?

Smh everyone hates on huskies. Embracing the drama is way more fun.

Tut tuts those that don’t like drama.

What is the worst animal?

Geese. They’re mean and poop everywhere.

Shut the fuck up

Inimical. Has a prickly defense.

You’re a North American porcupine, and you are probably good.

SportPonies:

Spoiler: show

Note that I left out those that haven’t posted or if I missed their posts.

But I’ve solved a good majority of the game.

Everyone that’s good can get in my arc and we shall reside in love and peace and harmony

what am I? Get to work.

*playbows*

You’re a hippogriff, and you already have the most posts even though you hadn’t posted until 4 hours ago. So you’re probably just bad and mega posting because you’re trying to overcompensate for the fact that you’re not even real.

Sorry.

Creature:

Spoiler: show

Boy I am angry and exhausted

You sound like my father-in-law.

You are probably my father-in-law. He’s firmly 3P and keeps trying to offer me unprompted financial advice. As I’ve said before, Greg, we’re doing fine and my portfolio IS already diversified with foreign investments.

I’m sorry about your rand, Creature.

Also, I read all of this and understood nothing.

Is this a very crafty and unnecesarly complex way of posting fluff?

I wish santy had more to say to this to Scotty today, because this single interaction with no followup looks very partnerish in the event Scotty flips wolf.

[Creature]

so i iso'd

scotty
miranda
creature
sporty

What did you get?

[NateTheLesser]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I didn't think your read was stated in such a way that it was intended to make Sporty feel good about you, no. Just seemed like a read.

Have you played often with Dy/Dya and do you feel like you are good at reading them?

Aka: Am I completely in the wrong here? Have you already found dya as town?

I think we were in a hydra game a while back and that's about it, so no I wouldn't claim to be good at reading them.

I'm just saying that what you found pockety didn't seem pockety to me

[pyxxy]

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these posts rhymed just thought that was cool

[Marmot]

I think Santy on tone looks a little townier than Scotty, but also possibly partnered.

[pyxxy]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I didn't think your read was stated in such a way that it was intended to make Sporty feel good about you, no. Just seemed like a read.

Have you played often with Dy/Dya and do you feel like you are good at reading them?

Aka: Am I completely in the wrong here? Have you already found dya as town?

I think we were in a hydra game a while back and that's about it, so no I wouldn't claim to be good at reading them.

I'm just saying that what you found pockety didn't seem pockety to me

Noted, ty.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

[pyxxy]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

God please town lean me for literally anything else

cry for help rejected

[dyachei]

so i iso'd

scotty
miranda
creature
sporty

What did you get?

you and miranda's isos were both pretty empty

sporty i liked for reasons mentioned earlier tonight (if I say them again I'll get accused of pocketing them again)

scotty was wolfy to me primarily because he's reading dennis as wolf based on how dennis is treating pyxxy, who he has as wolf. and he's voting dennis over pyxxy

[Animal Midwife]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Why are they bad? Especially this far out.

[Marmot]

Screenshot 2023-04-20 at 18.15.04.png

these posts rhymed just thought that was cool

You're cool B)

[Creature]

rn I only have Scotty as wolf and a bunch of players not playing.

[pyxxy]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I'm posting as I scroll so apologies if this isn't your most updated post/opinion.

My focus is on why you decided that Sporty was being sussed for being defensive.

And how quickly you decided that, given that was the argument, you could dismiss it and townread Sporty, who was facing a little pressure at 3 votes and is/was the third wagon behind the two 7s.

Sporty would naturally be grateful to be found as town (if town), subconsciously or not, especially by someone who is returning to the thread and plausibly could vote for her.

This seems like pocketing, TMI, buddying up to a townie. Whatever you want to call it, that's how I feel about it.

Again, sorry if I'm just unfamiliar with you. I can be wrong just how I see it.

Why can't this be a thing that a townie does?

Why does doing this have to make the doer townie?

lol gottem sorry I just felt like your question was meh as in I didn't understand your intention behind it

if you're trying to help guide me elsewhere, then it's appreciated

[Creature]

rn I only have Scotty as wolf and a bunch of players not playing.

But Scotty is mostly a sheep from the cases being posted here.

[dyachei]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Why are they bad? Especially this far out.

40 mins out when most people arent around is far out?

[Creature]

Is night thread open?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Why are they bad? Especially this far out.

The wagons hadn't moved in the last 20-30 minutes, so I'm making some movement.

Also ties are bad because they lead to rands. I believe players should take it upon themselves to choose who is eliminated rather than let it fall to a coin flip.

[SARdoghandler]

Anyway, I'm home from work and definitely not going to get caught up in the hour remaining. So if someone has a tldr of the current lead wagons that would be awesome

Otherwise I'll probably just make a bad impulsive decision based on whoever's around right now and sets off the peter tingle

Here is my biased understanding (I'm voting Scotty):

Scotty had a moderate amount of activity, but the wolfhunt appeared to lack feeling. The reason for the vote on Dennis didn't make sense, and the outgoing message felt wolfy

Creature has been much less active that one would expect, and hasn't made any real contributions to wolfhunting

Doing an ISO on both should be helpful to you

Thanks this was somewhat helpful. I'm honestly having some trouble even keeping up on the recent stuff from playing on my phone so I doubt I'll be able to do any real isos before close but I'll probably try for some tomorrow

[Animal Midwife]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Why are they bad? Especially this far out.

40 mins out when most people arent around is far out?

Yes. Honestly up to 10 minutes to close, I'll allo. Assuming we're dealing with too many lowposters (like here).

[SportPonies]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Why are they bad? Especially this far out.

The wagons hadn't moved in the last 20-30 minutes, so I'm making some movement.

Also ties are bad because they lead to rands. I believe players should take it upon themselves to choose who is eliminated rather than let it fall to a coin flip.

Did you have a problem with the stagnant wagons?

[Marmot]

I regret my wording tbh oof

I'm gonna townlean you for this, don't make me regret it

This is more pockety than what dya said

im still not over that

dya hears reason sporty is being pushed, reads entire iso, doesn't agree with the call it was defensive, therefore doesnt understand the push

pyxxy: dya is pocketing sporty

I'm posting as I scroll so apologies if this isn't your most updated post/opinion.

My focus is on why you decided that Sporty was being sussed for being defensive.

And how quickly you decided that, given that was the argument, you could dismiss it and townread Sporty, who was facing a little pressure at 3 votes and is/was the third wagon behind the two 7s.

Sporty would naturally be grateful to be found as town (if town), subconsciously or not, especially by someone who is returning to the thread and plausibly could vote for her.

This seems like pocketing, TMI, buddying up to a townie. Whatever you want to call it, that's how I feel about it.

Again, sorry if I'm just unfamiliar with you. I can be wrong just how I see it.

Why can't this be a thing that a townie does?

Why does doing this have to make the doer townie?

lol gottem sorry I just felt like your question was meh as in I didn't understand your intention behind it

if you're trying to help guide me elsewhere, then it's appreciated

You seemed tunneled on one idea, which to me didn't seem inherently scummy, so I'm asking why it can't be the alternative possibility?

I think it's reasonable for a player to walk into a thread, look at a wagon, and think it's townie. I don't necessarily know if dya does this, but it's a thing people do.

[pyxxy]

@pyxxy Why are you voting none of the people you said were your top wolf reads?

I hate textualism but

"People I _would_ vote today"

is quite literal for me.

Why does Creature or Scotty need another vote right now?

How would voting for either of them help town win when I know I have 30+ minutes left in EOD to post and solve and I can move onto one of their wagons at EOD if I feel like that's the right thing to do?

If those wagons hadn't taken off after my pool of 3, then yeah, I might be voting for one of them. Dya also has basically made an OGI Creature activity read that I respect. I already explained my feelings on Scotty (can link if you want). And I've interacted with Sporty about how I'm feeling out her and Dya.

That's about the gist of it. Any followup questions?

[dyachei]

im falling asleep. thanks emergency broadcast test at 4:45 am

[Animal Midwife]

@pyxxy Why are you voting none of the people you said were your top wolf reads?

I hate textualism but

"People I _would_ vote today"

is quite literal for me.

Why does Creature or Scotty need another vote right now?

How would voting for either of them help town win when I know I have 30+ minutes left in EOD to post and solve and I can move onto one of their wagons at EOD if I feel like that's the right thing to do?

If those wagons hadn't taken off after my pool of 3, then yeah, I might be voting for one of them. Dya also has basically made an OGI Creature activity read that I respect. I already explained my feelings on Scotty (can link if you want). And I've interacted with Sporty about how I'm feeling out her and Dya.

That's about the gist of it. Any followup questions?

Why do you respect the OGI read if you're scumreading dy?

[Seanzie]

About 8 pages behind. Wagons look fine. It's sleepytime.

[pyxxy]

@SportPonies do you accept dy's pocketing of you or are you two scum pals?

man my definition of pocketing is WAY different than reading someone's iso and not seeing the thing being touted as a reason to vote them

Who told you besides Sporty that her defensiveness was why she was being scumread?

I saw you ask in the thread and waited but I don't remember people responding to you.

What's more the voters are just me Seanzie and Miranda. Miranda made her case pretty clear. Seanzie is gone atm. I'm active but you didn't tag me or anything (not a crime ofc), but my initial case on Sporty was about a gut feeling. I specifically said it wasn't about tone when she and I talked about it (or at least that's how I remember it).

Your clearing of Sporty seems too confident given its development.

Sorry if this is just me being unfamiliar with you and your playstyle *nods in acceptance* but I find you sus.

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

I don’t disagree with this, especially since I’m usually a “I can’t read Sporty” for people

there's a difference between "i don't want to push here today" and "I feel strongly sporty is a villager" though and i feel like you guys are acting like they're the same fucking thing

That's fair.

So when you came into the thread, you saw the top 3 wagons and figured that was a good place to start solving?

(if you answer yes then I'll probably shift to townleaning you )

yes, i iso'd all the wagons and players i had heard a lot about

hype

back to Sporty for me, I guess? god knows I wouldn't want to appear inconsistent and like I'm thinking about things

so [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

[mightyrunner7]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Why are they bad? Especially this far out.

The wagons hadn't moved in the last 20-30 minutes, so I'm making some movement.

Also ties are bad because they lead to rands. I believe players should take it upon themselves to choose who is eliminated rather than let it fall to a coin flip.

Some SDN ties lead to mass executions

But I agree that choices are better than coinflips, I just think we still have time for redirection.

I wish @Scotty was here for a defense

[Marmot]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Why are they bad? Especially this far out.

The wagons hadn't moved in the last 20-30 minutes, so I'm making some movement.

Also ties are bad because they lead to rands. I believe players should take it upon themselves to choose who is eliminated rather than let it fall to a coin flip.

Did you have a problem with the stagnant wagons?

Sort of.

I do think vote movement is an excellent thing, especially on Day 1 when we have tons of time afterward to look back on it and analyze. Getting lots of good talking points and interactions is very beneficial this early, and stagnant wagons can inhibit that somewhat.

Also, I don't really want to chop Creature atp.

[Marmot]

About 8 pages behind. Wagons look fine. It's sleepytime.

Townie pop-in.

[Mayo the Mayo]

Anyway, I'm home from work and definitely not going to get caught up in the hour remaining. So if someone has a tldr of the current lead wagons that would be awesome

Otherwise I'll probably just make a bad impulsive decision based on whoever's around right now and sets off the peter tingle

Here is my biased understanding (I'm voting Scotty):

Scotty had a moderate amount of activity, but the wolfhunt appeared to lack feeling. The reason for the vote on Dennis didn't make sense, and the outgoing message felt wolfy

Creature has been much less active that one would expect, and hasn't made any real contributions to wolfhunting

Doing an ISO on both should be helpful to you

@Mayo the Mayo mightyrunner just made a good one

Thank you. What was the outgoing message referenced here?

[Marmot]

im falling asleep. thanks emergency broadcast test at 4:45 am

:angry_react:

[pyxxy]

im falling asleep. thanks emergency broadcast test at 4:45 am

lmao florida confirmed?????

[Zenge]

@Zenge you around? I want to know if Dr. Wiggly's falcon read affects your view at all

It doesn’t change anything for me, no.

[Marmot]

Anyway, I'm home from work and definitely not going to get caught up in the hour remaining. So if someone has a tldr of the current lead wagons that would be awesome

Otherwise I'll probably just make a bad impulsive decision based on whoever's around right now and sets off the peter tingle

Here is my biased understanding (I'm voting Scotty):

Scotty had a moderate amount of activity, but the wolfhunt appeared to lack feeling. The reason for the vote on Dennis didn't make sense, and the outgoing message felt wolfy

Creature has been much less active that one would expect, and hasn't made any real contributions to wolfhunting

Doing an ISO on both should be helpful to you

@Mayo the Mayo mightyrunner just made a good one

Thank you. What was the outgoing message referenced here?

I think they're talking about Scotty's final post.

Anyway, I’m behind and out of time. If you kill me today, no big deal. My role ain’t that cool