[END] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game

[santygrass]

Everyone has received a special broadcast!

Sloonei w

Anyway, here's some music to vibe to:

Is this mech or a read?

A read

Is it yours?

Are you really asking Sloonei if he read himself wolf?

I was being ironic .

Cuz its kinda obvious that if its mech it didn't come from Sloonei so their answer is moot

[MacDougall]

Due to Falcon's flip I am revising my townlist and removing Sloonei off it for now. Falcon and Creature both being Werecreatures that were hard pushed day 1 makes anyone complicit in the Scotty wagon exceedingly in need of a resolve. I don't think Sloonei is a wolf, but I'm not comfortable townclearing him now.

This makes my present towncore Santy, MR7, Mayo and Tutuu.

[santygrass]

[VOTE: Lawpy] aubergine

Engaged. Mayo town

[MacDougall]

Congrats @Zenge on the pelt btw.

[Sloonei]

I was being ironic .

Cuz its kinda obvious that if its mech it didn't come from Sloonei so their answer is moot

Which do you think it is?

[Sloonei]

Due to Falcon's flip I am revising my townlist and removing Sloonei off it for now. Falcon and Creature both being Werecreatures that were hard pushed day 1 makes anyone complicit in the Scotty wagon exceedingly in need of a resolve. I don't think Sloonei is a wolf, but I'm not comfortable townclearing him now.

This makes my present towncore Santy, MR7, Mayo and Tutuu.

This is fair.

[Lawpy]

Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

[santygrass]

I was being ironic .

Cuz its kinda obvious that if its mech it didn't come from Sloonei so their answer is moot

Which do you think it is?

My current tinfoil its that it is Wolf mech damning for a wolf of another faction and wanting to slank the day by distracting town on another woof.

Do I think its likely? No.

But I am thinking about it? Yes.

[santygrass]

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

[Lawpy]

[VOTE: Lawpy] aubergine

Engaged. Mayo town

Why? You’re making a mistake

[Lawpy]

[VOTE: Mayos] aubergine

[Sloonei]

I will probably be required to explain my participation in Scotty's elimination, so here you go:

I initiated the Scotty bandwagon by posting a mild case about his Day 1 reads list and his response to some light pressure. It was intended to promote discussion with and about Scotty. But then he disappeared and a bunch of votes piled on. I expressed concerns about this in real time, but at the time I still felt like Scotty was the closed thing I had to a suspect. I gave serious consideration to switching to Creature in the final minutes, but I didn't act on it. Oh well.

I am responsible for giving the werecreatures an excuse not to vote Creature. But I am not one of them.

[santygrass]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

[MacDougall]

VC 3 hours before EOD1.

Creature - 4 votes
Voters: Mayo the Mayo, S~V~S, falcon45ca, DrWilgy
Scotty - 4 votes
Voters: Neon, Creature, Sloonei, potentialsheltervet
SportPonies - 3 votes
Voters: pyxxy, Seanzie, miranda920
Dennis - 2 votes
Voters: Animal Midwife, Scotty
miranda920 - 2 votes
Voters: santygrass, SportPonies
falcon45ca - 1 votes
Voters: Zenge
Marmot - 1 votes
Voters: Dennis
pyxxy - 1 votes
Voters: genny
Zenge - 1 votes
Voters: NateTheLesser

Dennis seems outed. Possibly one between Miranda/Santy AND one between Miranda/Seanzie. Maybe Miranda is just outed. Probably no more wolves on Creature aside from Falcon. Probably at least one between Neon/Sloonei on Scotty here.

[santygrass]

[VOTE: Mayos] aubergine

Explain softly

[Sloonei]

I believe Neon was the one person on Scotty before me, but she was present after the wagon took off and did not move it.

[MacDougall]

It's so funny there was a post of PSV's I found overnight that as I was reading just made me go "holy fuck that is soooo outing". During EOD after he seemed to be really cleverly trying to keep people off Creature. Creature votes Scotty and he makes this ridiculous "I think Creature voted Scotty in prime bussy spot" read that felt so much like he was spewing Creature mafia and trying to chain Scotty to him in the event Creature flipped. I would NEVER have resolved PSV town after what I read. I am so very thankful to whoever has slotted him cuz fuck me D3 was about to be messy haha.

[Mayo the Mayo]

Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

[Lawpy]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

[MacDougall]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

So you are townreading Dennis then?

[santygrass]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

You think Mayo bussed?

What about Dennis?

[MacDougall]

@Seanzie please make more than 5 posts today.

[Sloonei]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

Lawpy has sided very strongly with Zenge in the Zenge vs. Sloonei dialogue on Day 1. I have been worried about this. I do not want to bring up bring up past events that are not relevant. But I think I have made myself clear that I do not believe Zenge was responding to my posts fairly or accurately. I believe others have expressed similar feelings. But I'm not interested in polling the room. I just want to note that Lawpy has used this issue to frame me as a suspect since subbing into the game without seeming to give much consideration to the other side of the coin.

[santygrass]

It's so funny there was a post of PSV's I found overnight that as I was reading just made me go "holy fuck that is soooo outing". During EOD after he seemed to be really cleverly trying to keep people off Creature. Creature votes Scotty and he makes this ridiculous "I think Creature voted Scotty in prime bussy spot" read that felt so much like he was spewing Creature mafia and trying to chain Scotty to him in the event Creature flipped. I would NEVER have resolved PSV town after what I read. I am so very thankful to whoever has slotted him cuz fuck me D3 was about to be messy haha.

Heh.

Been there. Thats why I sheeped the Zenge tm read and didn't bother. Correct move

[Lawpy]

Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

[Mayo the Mayo]

VC 3 hours before EOD1.

Creature - 4 votes
Voters: Mayo the Mayo, S~V~S, falcon45ca, DrWilgy
Scotty - 4 votes
Voters: Neon, Creature, Sloonei, potentialsheltervet
SportPonies - 3 votes
Voters: pyxxy, Seanzie, miranda920
Dennis - 2 votes
Voters: Animal Midwife, Scotty
miranda920 - 2 votes
Voters: santygrass, SportPonies
falcon45ca - 1 votes
Voters: Zenge
Marmot - 1 votes
Voters: Dennis
pyxxy - 1 votes
Voters: genny
Zenge - 1 votes
Voters: NateTheLesser

Dennis seems outed. Possibly one between Miranda/Santy AND one between Miranda/Seanzie. Maybe Miranda is just outed. Probably no more wolves on Creature aside from Falcon. Probably at least one between Neon/Sloonei on Scotty here.

Explain vigorously pls

[Mayo the Mayo]

Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

Was it a poisoned apple?

[Lawpy]

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

Was it a poisoned apple?

No pls

[Lawpy]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

You think Mayo bussed?

What about Dennis?

Mayos has bussed before, so yes.

Dennis is currently in my neutrals

[Mayo the Mayo]

Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

I'm not above bussing, but I doubt I would ever do it in a game when I extremely inactive and uncertain if I will be able to login before close.

If you want to say that my creature vote doesn't hard clear me, sure, I agree.

Your anti-bus vote looks far worse

[MacDougall]

VC 3 hours before EOD1.

Creature - 4 votes
Voters: Mayo the Mayo, S~V~S, falcon45ca, DrWilgy
Scotty - 4 votes
Voters: Neon, Creature, Sloonei, potentialsheltervet
SportPonies - 3 votes
Voters: pyxxy, Seanzie, miranda920
Dennis - 2 votes
Voters: Animal Midwife, Scotty
miranda920 - 2 votes
Voters: santygrass, SportPonies
falcon45ca - 1 votes
Voters: Zenge
Marmot - 1 votes
Voters: Dennis
pyxxy - 1 votes
Voters: genny
Zenge - 1 votes
Voters: NateTheLesser

Dennis seems outed. Possibly one between Miranda/Santy AND one between Miranda/Seanzie. Maybe Miranda is just outed. Probably no more wolves on Creature aside from Falcon. Probably at least one between Neon/Sloonei on Scotty here.

Explain vigorously pls

In the case of Dennis, he is voting off wagon on a slot that has been janitorised while two now dead town are voting for him. This is not towny, and the fact that no wolves were voting him at this time is also nagl.

Miranda, has a dead town and Santy voting them. It is unlikely, for much the same reasons, that a wolf would not be voting Miranda here if they were a town.

Ponies has 3 voters, 1 is a dead town, again, it is very likely a wolf is between the two of Miranda and Seanzie because of wagonomics rule of 3 votes.

That Miranda appears in two of these dichotomies doesn't bode well for Miranda.

Scotty is a direct counterwagon to a wolf. Creature was voting him. One two. Two remain. It is incredibly unlikely no further wolves were voting him at this time.

[MacDougall]

When you say “this is what he does”, it sounds like you’re saying “this is NAI”, is that correct?

Not necessarily. I would lean very slightly towards a town read on him. But, at the very least, he should not be scumread for playing the role of antagonist like this.

Okay, let’s circle back to “This is what he does”.

Because that’s a very generic dismissal of my read and my push. You’re using the fact that you have familiarity with Falcon to completely dismiss my very valid reasons for finding this player to be a wolf.

So with regards to your “This is what he does”, please, I’d like you to be as thorough as possible in your explanation.

"What he does" is pick a fight with a player or a couple of players very early in the game. He'll provoke them and do his darndest to get a big reaction out of folks regardless of whether or not he's right, or is making "logical" sense. My understanding of the play is that he does it to create action.

How his play develops from there might vary from game to game. But this is the typical opening move from falcon.

This is not about picking a fight or provoking a reaction.

I asked him a very simple question, very concisely, twice. The first time he realized he didn’t have a good answer because he was full of it and tried to just walk away from the conversation. The second time he tried to obfuscate and redirect attention, still refusing to admit he was wrong or answer the question.

Coupled with everything else he’s done on thread, this is a wolf.

I’m not letting this go.

I would prefer to see how both of you respond to other things in this thread.

Your defense of Falcon is noted, Sloonei.

Make no mistake, I am reading and monitoring the rest of the game.

I also made note of the fact that in your defense of Falcon, you refused to actually talk about the merits of what I was saying and the complete lack of merits of what Falcon was saying.

Instead you dismissed my wolf read by saying “you know Falcon better” and tried to say “he’s just antagonistic”, and followed that up with “let’s talk about something else…”

If Falcon does flip wolf, you’re 100% next for the way you handled this.

[Mayo the Mayo]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

Lawpy has sided very strongly with Zenge in the Zenge vs. Sloonei dialogue on Day 1. I have been worried about this. I do not want to bring up bring up past events that are not relevant. But I think I have made myself clear that I do not believe Zenge was responding to my posts fairly or accurately. I believe others have expressed similar feelings. But I'm not interested in polling the room. I just want to note that Lawpy has used this issue to frame me as a suspect since subbing into the game without seeming to give much consideration to the other side of the coin.

Which I think multiple people saw on thread at the time. Lawwpy was using the argument to fuel the fire between you and zenge and try to drum up sus of me (which only makes sense if you are a wolf).

He wasn't actually pursuing falcon during this time, just using that to drive a wedge.

This is reliant on you being village.

[Mayo the Mayo]

This is reliant on you being village.

Which is yet to be proven

[Mayo the Mayo]

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

Was it a poisoned apple?

No pls

Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?

[Lawpy]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

Lawpy has sided very strongly with Zenge in the Zenge vs. Sloonei dialogue on Day 1. I have been worried about this. I do not want to bring up bring up past events that are not relevant. But I think I have made myself clear that I do not believe Zenge was responding to my posts fairly or accurately. I believe others have expressed similar feelings. But I'm not interested in polling the room. I just want to note that Lawpy has used this issue to frame me as a suspect since subbing into the game without seeming to give much consideration to the other side of the coin.

Frame is definitely wrong and implies i’m disingenuous. I was honing in on Zenges vs Falcons because Zenges was receiving a lot of major pushback and resistance that made me suspect wolves were trying to defend Falcons and get the heat off of him. And i still argue that’s the case. And i already acknowledged in a response to Nates that Zenges might be confbiasing but i still backed his tunnel on Falcons strongly and was honing in on anyone trying to mount a resistance against him. I also very clearly mentioned how trajectory matters because Santy defended Falcons too and yet i’m village reading him because the way he engaged with Zenges is coming from a more genuine solving approach as opposed to your attempt in trying to subtly nudge Zenges away from the tunnel while gradually moderating and shifting your stance to make it seem you’re explicitly anti Falcons

[MacDougall]

I will probably be required to explain my participation in Scotty's elimination, so here you go:

I initiated the Scotty bandwagon by posting a mild case about his Day 1 reads list and his response to some light pressure. It was intended to promote discussion with and about Scotty. But then he disappeared and a bunch of votes piled on. I expressed concerns about this in real time, but at the time I still felt like Scotty was the closed thing I had to a suspect. I gave serious consideration to switching to Creature in the final minutes, but I didn't act on it. Oh well.

I am responsible for giving the werecreatures an excuse not to vote Creature. But I am not one of them.

When you were defending Falcon on day 1 and Zenge attacked yoy, you certainly sound like town Sloonei, but it's hard to reconcile that you are probably singularly responsible for two Werecreatures surviving day 1 by voting out Scotty.

Why did you feel the need to interject on Falcon's behalf with Zenge?

[Mayo the Mayo]

VC 3 hours before EOD1.

Creature - 4 votes
Voters: Mayo the Mayo, S~V~S, falcon45ca, DrWilgy
Scotty - 4 votes
Voters: Neon, Creature, Sloonei, potentialsheltervet
SportPonies - 3 votes
Voters: pyxxy, Seanzie, miranda920
Dennis - 2 votes
Voters: Animal Midwife, Scotty
miranda920 - 2 votes
Voters: santygrass, SportPonies
falcon45ca - 1 votes
Voters: Zenge
Marmot - 1 votes
Voters: Dennis
pyxxy - 1 votes
Voters: genny
Zenge - 1 votes
Voters: NateTheLesser

Dennis seems outed. Possibly one between Miranda/Santy AND one between Miranda/Seanzie. Maybe Miranda is just outed. Probably no more wolves on Creature aside from Falcon. Probably at least one between Neon/Sloonei on Scotty here.

Explain vigorously pls

In the case of Dennis, he is voting off wagon on a slot that has been janitorised while two now dead town are voting for him. This is not towny, and the fact that no wolves were voting him at this time is also nagl.

Miranda, has a dead town and Santy voting them. It is unlikely, for much the same reasons, that a wolf would not be voting Miranda here if they were a town.

Ponies has 3 voters, 1 is a dead town, again, it is very likely a wolf is between the two of Miranda and Seanzie because of wagonomics rule of 3 votes.

That Miranda appears in two of these dichotomies doesn't bode well for Miranda.

Scotty is a direct counterwagon to a wolf. Creature was voting him. One two. Two remain. It is incredibly unlikely no further wolves were voting him at this time.

Interesting

[Sloonei]

Here is dya's (now Lawpy) progression on Scotty leading up to the vote:

Spoiler: show

Scotty's reaction to receiving votes was lacking in a way that gives me pause. It felt like a civilian who is not invested enough to fight back.

can you quote what you mean?

Let's talk about Scotty.

Nice geocities banner

I feel like I’m a voyeur to my own eulogy and I’m here for it

Anyway, I’m behind and out of time. If you kill me today, no big deal. My role ain’t that cool

thanks. I can see what you're talking about but I dont know scotty well enough to know if he would roll over as a wolf, too

im a little pinged by scotty saying the miranda wagon hasnt dissipated then voting her

so why is scotty voting dennis instead of pyxxy?

Badvibes:
Pyxxytung - hedging for the sake of hedging in calling me not wolf but not town
Pawmarmot - not engaged. Marmot should be more engaged.
Bellosanty - for the memes but also content doesn’t thrill me
Mirandreavus - easy town read of me
Dedennis - defending pyxxy

like why wouldn't you vote pyxxy over dennis here

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

And here is everything they had to say about Creature on Day 1:

Spoiler: show

AM - i'm catching up and seeing that creature's lack of activity is a big deal to you. he's outgrown that meta recently and there are things I can't talk about that I think are going on that might affect that

that said I remember nothing of what creature has done so he could be a wolf

but the lack of activity is outdated meta

I'm confused by @Sloonei backtracking on Scotty now that the wagon is gaining steam

I am judging Scotty based on how he reacts to things. I do not think this should be confusing.

You pushed very hard for people to vote Scotty with you and now that people are voting Scotty with you you're like mhmmmm maybe not. It's a strange progression.

I suspected Scotty and still do, so I presented a case against him.

Scotty reacted to it, and I gave consideration to his reaction. It has given me reason to reconsider. It is not a strange progression. This is a strange push.

I'm pushing you? When I'm still voting with you on Scotty?
You made it sound like you don't want to elim Scotty anymore because of his response being disinterested. I questioned that given how enthusiastic you were posting banners saying let's talk about him. Yeah, it seemed weird.

but like I think scotty's iso pings me and miranda's and creatures are just kind of there

is sporty's iso long

Is there an argument anywhere for Creature being town?

if you happened to know about other things going on elsewhere, you would probably not be upset at the lack of content

it's not really a town read so much as a he is busy read

so i iso'd

scotty
miranda
creature
sporty

What did you get?

you and miranda's isos were both pretty empty

sporty i liked for reasons mentioned earlier tonight (if I say them again I'll get accused of pocketing them again)

scotty was wolfy to me primarily because he's reading dennis as wolf based on how dennis is treating pyxxy, who he has as wolf. and he's voting dennis over pyxxy

I do not struggle to read this as somebody who is teamed with Creature that is happy to place a vote anywhere other than Creature. Dya is either defensive of Creature, or gives him a complete uncritical pass.

At the same time, Dya scrutinizes Scotty and offers a counterargument when I expressed my reservations about suspecting Scotty.

[Mayo the Mayo]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

Lawpy has sided very strongly with Zenge in the Zenge vs. Sloonei dialogue on Day 1. I have been worried about this. I do not want to bring up bring up past events that are not relevant. But I think I have made myself clear that I do not believe Zenge was responding to my posts fairly or accurately. I believe others have expressed similar feelings. But I'm not interested in polling the room. I just want to note that Lawpy has used this issue to frame me as a suspect since subbing into the game without seeming to give much consideration to the other side of the coin.

Frame is definitely wrong and implies i’m disingenuous. I was honing in on Zenges vs Falcons because Zenges was receiving a lot of major pushback and resistance that made me suspect wolves were trying to defend Falcons and get the heat off of him. And i still argue that’s the case. And i already acknowledged in a response to Nates that Zenges might be confbiasing but i still backed his tunnel on Falcons strongly and was honing in on anyone trying to mount a resistance against him. I also very clearly mentioned how trajectory matters because Santy defended Falcons too and yet i’m village reading him because the way he engaged with Zenges is coming from a more genuine solving approach as opposed to your attempt in trying to subtly nudge Zenges away from the tunnel while gradually moderating and shifting your stance to make it seem you’re explicitly anti Falcons

You defended Zenges from anyone who argued with him, while avoiding actually pushing the wolf.

You just described how to pocket someone.

Like, textbook

[Lawpy]

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

I'm not above bussing, but I doubt I would ever do it in a game when I extremely inactive and uncertain if I will be able to login before close.

If you want to say that my creature vote doesn't hard clear me, sure, I agree.

Your anti-bus vote looks far worse

You’re right i don’t bus but i don’t have a good VCA in general as demonstated by Stardew 2 and other recent games i played as village. In fact, i literally fought a deepwolf in that game and didn’t even vote for him. We actually voted together! And i was village! And yet an argument could be made that such an act back then was theater.

[Lawpy]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

Lawpy has sided very strongly with Zenge in the Zenge vs. Sloonei dialogue on Day 1. I have been worried about this. I do not want to bring up bring up past events that are not relevant. But I think I have made myself clear that I do not believe Zenge was responding to my posts fairly or accurately. I believe others have expressed similar feelings. But I'm not interested in polling the room. I just want to note that Lawpy has used this issue to frame me as a suspect since subbing into the game without seeming to give much consideration to the other side of the coin.

Frame is definitely wrong and implies i’m disingenuous. I was honing in on Zenges vs Falcons because Zenges was receiving a lot of major pushback and resistance that made me suspect wolves were trying to defend Falcons and get the heat off of him. And i still argue that’s the case. And i already acknowledged in a response to Nates that Zenges might be confbiasing but i still backed his tunnel on Falcons strongly and was honing in on anyone trying to mount a resistance against him. I also very clearly mentioned how trajectory matters because Santy defended Falcons too and yet i’m village reading him because the way he engaged with Zenges is coming from a more genuine solving approach as opposed to your attempt in trying to subtly nudge Zenges away from the tunnel while gradually moderating and shifting your stance to make it seem you’re explicitly anti Falcons

You defended Zenges from anyone who argued with him, while avoiding actually pushing the wolf.

You just described how to pocket someone.

Like, textbook

No because i acknowledged Santy and Nates raised a valid criticism of Zenges.

[Sloonei]

I will probably be required to explain my participation in Scotty's elimination, so here you go:

I initiated the Scotty bandwagon by posting a mild case about his Day 1 reads list and his response to some light pressure. It was intended to promote discussion with and about Scotty. But then he disappeared and a bunch of votes piled on. I expressed concerns about this in real time, but at the time I still felt like Scotty was the closed thing I had to a suspect. I gave serious consideration to switching to Creature in the final minutes, but I didn't act on it. Oh well.

I am responsible for giving the werecreatures an excuse not to vote Creature. But I am not one of them.

When you were defending Falcon on day 1 and Zenge attacked yoy, you certainly sound like town Sloonei, but it's hard to reconcile that you are probably singularly responsible for two Werecreatures surviving day 1 by voting out Scotty.

Why did you feel the need to interject on Falcon's behalf with Zenge?

Because I felt as though Zenge's suspicion was based off of something that Falcon would do as town or mafia. I still feel that way.

And I still maintain that I was not "interjecting on Falcon's behalf." I interjected because I am a player who knows Falcon, and Zenge is not. As I said a dozen or so times during that conversation, I was only trying to provide context. Zenge then made it appear that I was defending Falcon by repeatedly asking me why I was defending Falcon.

[Sloonei]

(i am sorry, i'm still feeling sassy about it)

[MacDougall]

@Sloonei I think you are probably in a soft difference to Neon so I would appreciate your thoughts on Neon. @Neon vice versa.

[Lawpy]

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

Was it a poisoned apple?

No pls

Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?

Fruits by their nature don’t do anything but be consumed pls.

I was also reevaluating during the night to see if i can give you a benefit of doubt from your later posts so acting on you with fruits that don’t have any function besides serving as a sort of visitor role seemed like the best bet.

[Mayo the Mayo]

The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.


Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

I'm not above bussing, but I doubt I would ever do it in a game when I extremely inactive and uncertain if I will be able to login before close.

If you want to say that my creature vote doesn't hard clear me, sure, I agree.

Your anti-bus vote looks far worse

You’re right i don’t bus but i don’t have a good VCA in general as demonstated by Stardew 2 and other recent games i played as village. In fact, i literally fought a deepwolf in that game and didn’t even vote for him. We actually voted together! And i was village! And yet an argument could be made that such an act back then was theater.

I didn't play that game, nor did most people here.

You are saying we should disregard your VCA in all future games because you followed a deepwolf onto a misyeet?

The VCA looks bad.

Your tone sounds bad.

And it sure looks like you were pocketing zenge while trying to encourage v/v arguments to distract from where he was actually pushing.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?

[Sloonei]

I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

Lawpy has sided very strongly with Zenge in the Zenge vs. Sloonei dialogue on Day 1. I have been worried about this. I do not want to bring up bring up past events that are not relevant. But I think I have made myself clear that I do not believe Zenge was responding to my posts fairly or accurately. I believe others have expressed similar feelings. But I'm not interested in polling the room. I just want to note that Lawpy has used this issue to frame me as a suspect since subbing into the game without seeming to give much consideration to the other side of the coin.

Frame is definitely wrong and implies i’m disingenuous. I was honing in on Zenges vs Falcons because Zenges was receiving a lot of major pushback and resistance that made me suspect wolves were trying to defend Falcons and get the heat off of him. And i still argue that’s the case. And i already acknowledged in a response to Nates that Zenges might be confbiasing but i still backed his tunnel on Falcons strongly and was honing in on anyone trying to mount a resistance against him. I also very clearly mentioned how trajectory matters because Santy defended Falcons too and yet i’m village reading him because the way he engaged with Zenges is coming from a more genuine solving approach as opposed to your attempt in trying to subtly nudge Zenges away from the tunnel while gradually moderating and shifting your stance to make it seem you’re explicitly anti Falcons

"Frame" in this sense just means "present" or "show", I didn't intend for that word to have that particular connotation there.

But you essentially just restated my point. Zenge had a point of view about his interactions with me. I had a different point of view. I have expressed my point of view ad nauseam. I do not think it is an unreasonable point of view.

You have backed Zenge's point of view 100% of the time. You have not appeared to give any room for consideration of my point of view. That is my concern.

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei I think you are probably in a soft difference to Neon so I would appreciate your thoughts on Neon. @Neon vice versa.

a what?

[Mayo the Mayo]

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.


What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

Was it a poisoned apple?

No pls

Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?

Fruits by their nature don’t do anything but be consumed pls.

I was also reevaluating during the night to see if i can give you a benefit of doubt from your later posts so acting on you with fruits that don’t have any function besides serving as a sort of visitor role seemed like the best bet.

How would me receiving functionless fruit give you useful information into my affiliation??

Was your master plan to ask me about the fruit, and I just happened to ask you what you did last night first?

Did your write your name on it?