Summer Sh*t Day 5

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine

I'm not willing to vote here yet. He's a lost newbie and it def possible he randed bad, but I'd be more willing to look at other low posters who know better than to hide. I'm not a big fan of voting off low posters day 1.

if he's a newbie then voting on the top wagon with no explanation and dipping is probably almost outing tbh

If you think he's bad, I won't try to dissuade you from voting there, I'm just not willing to one day one.

ironically i think psv is a better vote, but i made that post because in the case he is a newbie, those actions are very wolfy and your post seemed to imply it doesn't mean much

[Camilla]

[VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine

I'm not willing to vote here yet. He's a lost newbie and it def possible he randed bad, but I'd be more willing to look at other low posters who know better than to hide. I'm not a big fan of voting off low posters day 1.

if he's a newbie then voting on the top wagon with no explanation and dipping is probably almost outing tbh

I don't get why he even voted you, tbh.

It kind of makes me feel like he's potentially lurking as someone who hasn't checked in for much of the day then suddenly voting on you feels like they're more hyperaware of what's happening in the thread as when people don't play because of their schedules they usually just come in the thread asking what happened rather than making a vote like this and dipping.

[Kate]

[VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine

I'm not willing to vote here yet. He's a lost newbie and it def possible he randed bad, but I'd be more willing to look at other low posters who know better than to hide. I'm not a big fan of voting off low posters day 1.

So what are your top three eliminations rn?

I'm so bad at doing this. I say this at least once pregame, but I come from the OS of playing where you play your cards close to your chest to avoid a nk bc in the old days we couldn't win if we died. So it's very unnatural for me to make lists and such. I'm trying to adjust on that. Let me look through...I was just about to post the posts per person.

[Kate]

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[Kate]

Ted, falcon and seanzie.

[Camilla]

[VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine

I'm not willing to vote here yet. He's a lost newbie and it def possible he randed bad, but I'd be more willing to look at other low posters who know better than to hide. I'm not a big fan of voting off low posters day 1.

So what are your top three eliminations rn?

I'm so bad at doing this. I say this at least once pregame, but I come from the OS of playing where you play your cards close to your chest to avoid a nk bc in the old days we couldn't win if we died. So it's very unnatural for me to make lists and such. I'm trying to adjust on that. Let me look through...I was just about to post the posts per person.

As someone who usually just dies n1 or n2 as town, I feel like this manner of playing may not be so bad in retrospective lol.

[Camilla]

Ted, falcon and seanzie.

I'm interested on Falcon?

I feel like he's kind of been UTR as while he has posted quite a few times this game I don't really found any reason to TR him unlike others like Dennis, PSV, or Neon, tbh.

[Kate]

Ted, falcon and seanzie.

I'm interested on Falcon?

I feel like he's kind of been UTR as while he has posted quite a few times this game I don't really found any reason to TR him unlike others like Dennis, PSV, or Neon, tbh.

He's usually more aggressive town, so he's a bit off for me this game. Also, iirc he doesn't make overly aggressive fake cases early game when he's wolfy. So with that as a spectrum of falconlike behavior, he's in the red.

[Camilla]

I feel like Kate's recent posts were pretty good, tbh.

I don't see the rationale to defend lowposters like Six/Sig as a wolf as you're kind of just blocking off two easy MLs if you're V and you're just blatantly tying yourself to your partners if W.

Plus the shift to Falcon/Seanzie really feels like an organic-ish form of worldbuilding as it seems like Kate's actually looking for wolves rather than just sticking to the path of least resistance.

I kind of feel like putting her roughly the same place PSV's at in my reads, tbh.

[Camilla]

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

[Camilla]

I feel like Kate's recent posts were pretty good, tbh.

I don't see the rationale to defend lowposters like Six/Sig as a wolf as you're kind of just blocking off two easy MLs if you're V and you're just blatantly tying yourself to your partners if W.

Plus the shift to Falcon/Seanzie really feels like an organic-ish form of worldbuilding as it seems like Kate's actually looking for wolves rather than just sticking to the path of least resistance.

I kind of feel like putting her roughly the same place PSV's at in my reads, tbh.

if they're V and W, not you*

EBWOP.

[Kate]

I also don't like that Ted and falcon are the 2 left sitting on psv.

[Kate]

jk

actually, despite Dennis saying they're a lazy D1 player, there were some takes in their posts (most notably the concern on Camilla pushing lhf)

Ted did it too

When I've got people posting 17 page thesises (wtf is thr plural for thesis) it's kind of hard to not start thinking a little

Dennis can you give me the cliff notes on everyone so far?

That'd be way easier if I actually knew what cliff notes are B)

If you really want to get an actual feel probably just iso like, someone in Camilla/spf/ted cause they've lead the conversation thus far

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the mafia's total posts was less than 7 (original thought, I know)

Camilla was a top wagon for a little bit which I was preparing to come in and strike down today but that has resolved itself. Camilla's been arguably the most outspoken and trying thus far, this is turning into just me pocketing aaaaa, generic townie keep doin whatchya doin

PSV is iffy for me, cause in my catchup I saw one or two posts that gave me iffy feels (I'll go find it in a second). I'd still rather not chop for reasons unexplainable by me

Ted is the top wagon rn and I don't know why. Not so much I'm 100 percent sure they're town, more I feel like no one really explained themselves (maybe I'm just forgetting) and that's currently steering me towards TRing them

Spf making that weird claim where me defending you (Kate) is town indicative for me seems so wild, not even wolfy just like wild, that a wolf wouldn't do it

Everyone else is forgettable thus far, except for pyxxy who has given me approximately 0 feelings

So yah. Idk why people always end up asking me this cause idk what you want but um. There you go

Toward townreading who? Ted or those voting for him?

And thanks for the notes.

[Camilla]

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

[tedxtr]

I also don't like that Ted and falcon are the 2 left sitting on psv.

why not?

[Dennis]

jk

actually, despite Dennis saying they're a lazy D1 player, there were some takes in their posts (most notably the concern on Camilla pushing lhf)

Ted did it too

When I've got people posting 17 page thesises (wtf is thr plural for thesis) it's kind of hard to not start thinking a little

Dennis can you give me the cliff notes on everyone so far?

That'd be way easier if I actually knew what cliff notes are B)

If you really want to get an actual feel probably just iso like, someone in Camilla/spf/ted cause they've lead the conversation thus far

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the mafia's total posts was less than 7 (original thought, I know)

Camilla was a top wagon for a little bit which I was preparing to come in and strike down today but that has resolved itself. Camilla's been arguably the most outspoken and trying thus far, this is turning into just me pocketing aaaaa, generic townie keep doin whatchya doin

PSV is iffy for me, cause in my catchup I saw one or two posts that gave me iffy feels (I'll go find it in a second). I'd still rather not chop for reasons unexplainable by me

Ted is the top wagon rn and I don't know why. Not so much I'm 100 percent sure they're town, more I feel like no one really explained themselves (maybe I'm just forgetting) and that's currently steering me towards TRing them

Spf making that weird claim where me defending you (Kate) is town indicative for me seems so wild, not even wolfy just like wild, that a wolf wouldn't do it

Everyone else is forgettable thus far, except for pyxxy who has given me approximately 0 feelings

So yah. Idk why people always end up asking me this cause idk what you want but um. There you go

Toward townreading who? Ted or those voting for him?

And thanks for the notes.

Towards townreading ted

[Camilla]

May not be here until the EoD but my final reads roughly look like this.

Camilla

Lemonfairy
Dennis
SPF

Kate
PSV
Pyxxy
Neon

Sig

Falcon
Seanzie
Six

Ted

Top tier's basically re-eval only late-game.

I kind of feel more confident on my reads and I don't think there's more than a wolf in the second one. Frankly I kind of wouldn't really kill PSV before killing Seanzie/Falcon as she kind of has fairly good interactions with the rest of my PoE.

Neon's probably the blind-spot in my reads as while her posts feel in her town range her lack of thread presence is concerning me to a point.

If Ted's W then I'd probably just hard-clear PSV/Dennis/Kate.

I don't think Six/Ted can possibly be unaligned since the vote did kind of feel bus-ish.

Sig's basically a hard null but unlike Six I feel like it's more IRL while I saw signs of Six potentially lurking due to him being hyperaware of what's happening in the thread.

[Kate]

I also don't like that Ted and falcon are the 2 left sitting on psv.

why not?

It feels like they were opportunistic votes and now that the wagon shifted to you, yall remain there hoping it goes back. Just a gut feeling once I looked up and saw the 2 of you together.

[tedxtr]

whatever

between camilla / spf for lategame when they'll get tinfoiled, i think camilla is villagerier than spf

seanzie fell off a cliff but idt it looks too bad if sig / six / psv have 2 wolves. if the wolves are more active, his change in play is a bit suspicious cuz he went from being aggressive to being cordial and diplomatic in how he reached reads at a point in the game where we were focused on the low posting people and he could've skated on his aggression

kate / dennis / pyxxy's postings are fine, dennis prob my top villa (funny how life goes)

lemonfairy had a few villagery posts but the bar is low to be confident on it

the rest i have no clue about

i'd be shooting psv if i had a means to, prob my most "confident" read

[Dennis]

I also don't like that Ted and falcon are the 2 left sitting on psv.

why not?

It feels like they were opportunistic votes and now that the wagon shifted to you, yall remain there hoping it goes back. Just a gut feeling once I looked up and saw the 2 of you together.

Curious

Why do you seem to already have a partnership made between the two of them?

[Dennis]

Yeah I really have no idea who to vote, but I don't think Ted is a hit

[VOTE: psv] aubergine I guess, got those ickies I was talking about before

[tedxtr]

I have done some catching up today and I am on the Ted wagon for now.

just keep account of this for when / if he doesn't come back to make more posts before the lunch target

for now implies he'll be coming back, if his vote is on a villa and his reason is made up, he doesn't have to come back

[Kate]

I also don't like that Ted and falcon are the 2 left sitting on psv.

why not?

It feels like they were opportunistic votes and now that the wagon shifted to you, yall remain there hoping it goes back. Just a gut feeling once I looked up and saw the 2 of you together.

Curious

Why do you seem to already have a partnership made between the two of them?

I was asked to give my top 3 suspicions, which I gave as ted, falcon and seanzie.

Shortly after that, I was looking at the polll and noticed that Ted and falcon had voted together and were the 2 still left on psv.

[Kate]

Yeah I really have no idea who to vote, but I don't think Ted is a hit

[VOTE: psv] aubergine I guess, got those ickies I was talking about before

What are your thoughts on Ted? Any thoughts specifically related to why he isn't defending at all but has been active in thread?

[Kate]

I remember Seanzie was the first to push PSV and I think they were also the first to back off
do you think it could be theatre?

Just reading lemons iso and this post stuck out to me.

This makes me want to vote seanzie.

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

[staypositivefriend]

i now townlean kate

[staypositivefriend]

for posterity, my perception of the game right now is:

town:

spf
psv
dennis

townlean:

pyxxy
kate
camilia
lemonfairy
camilia(?)

idk anymore:

neon
seanzie
falcon
ted
sig
sixstrings

[staypositivefriend]

for posterity, my perception of the game right now is:

town:

spf
psv
dennis

townlean:

pyxxy
kate
camilia
lemonfairy
camilia(?)

idk anymore:

neon
seanzie
falcon
ted
sig
sixstrings

tiers not exactly ordered

it wouldnt really rock my world right now if i was misclearing someone in my townlean tier. i think that if im having a decent game then there are 2 wolves in my "idk anymore" tier and if im having a bad game then there are 0 wolves there

[staypositivefriend]

it seems probable to me that there is one wolf btwn sig and sixstrings based solely on the gamestate alone but voting out either of them is essentially just a coinflip

[Kate]

I'm gonna move to seanzie.

[Camilla]

I remember Seanzie was the first to push PSV and I think they were also the first to back off
do you think it could be theatre?

Just reading lemons iso and this post stuck out to me.

This makes me want to vote seanzie.

I'd ideally prefer Seanzie/Ted wagons over the PSV one, tbh.

Especially since two of my strongest TRs are on the former.

[Kate]

@Seanzie please come talk.

[Camilla]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[Kate]

I remember Seanzie was the first to push PSV and I think they were also the first to back off
do you think it could be theatre?

Just reading lemons iso and this post stuck out to me.

This makes me want to vote seanzie.

I'd ideally prefer Seanzie/Ted wagons over the PSV one, tbh.

Especially since two of my strongest TRs are on the former.

Agree.

[Camilla]

for posterity, my perception of the game right now is:

town:

spf
psv
dennis

townlean:

pyxxy
kate
camilia
lemonfairy
camilia(?)

idk anymore:

neon
seanzie
falcon
ted
sig
sixstrings

The paranoia is real.

[Kate]

In my experience, sig is a very responsible player. It's unusual for him to miss a vote and even more unlikely if he has a team counting on him.

[staypositivefriend]

it's true. the main reason i consider you a townread right now is because our view of the game has been more or less in lockstep and your solving has felt increasingly authentic to me as the day has gone on

ive made a point of not coming after you too hard because i wanted to give you space to solve regardless of your alignment

[Kate]

for posterity, my perception of the game right now is:

town:

spf
psv
dennis

townlean:

pyxxy
kate
camilia
lemonfairy
camilia(?)

idk anymore:

neon
seanzie
falcon
ted
sig
sixstrings

The paranoia is real.

I'd like to see more from pyxxy tbh.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Vote: Sean

[Kate]

it's true. the main reason i consider you a townread right now is because our view of the game has been more or less in lockstep and your solving has felt increasingly authentic to me as the day has gone on

ive made a point of not coming after you too hard because i wanted to give you space to solve regardless of your alignment

Much appreciated

[staypositivefriend]

what made u vote sean just now?

[Kate]

Vote: Sean

Oh hello there, neon.

[staypositivefriend]

it's true. the main reason i consider you a townread right now is because our view of the game has been more or less in lockstep and your solving has felt increasingly authentic to me as the day has gone on

ive made a point of not coming after you too hard because i wanted to give you space to solve regardless of your alignment

Much appreciated

fwiw that post was directed at camilia but the sentiment kind of applies to you as well :P

[Camilla]

In my experience, sig is a very responsible player. It's unusual for him to miss a vote and even more unlikely if he has a team counting on him.

I still feel like if there's exactly one wolf in Six/Sig then it's probably just Six as he kind of feels too aware of what's happening in the thread.

Hopefully they start playing tomorrow tbh.

[Dennis]

Yeah I really have no idea who to vote, but I don't think Ted is a hit

[VOTE: psv] aubergine I guess, got those ickies I was talking about before

What are your thoughts on Ted? Any thoughts specifically related to why he isn't defending at all but has been active in thread?

I just don't even know how the wagon formed

Like when did all of these votes show up?? And that's leading me to believe they're town because of how easy these votes piled on and there no effort other than me to get them off. And I'm town so it's like

I dunno, a lot of people don't really defend themselves. Like I will go down kicking and screaming, you will too, but I know a lot of people who read defending as scummy. And they've left a legacy without even being prompted which I find towny and sorts defendy in its own right

[Kate]

it's true. the main reason i consider you a townread right now is because our view of the game has been more or less in lockstep and your solving has felt increasingly authentic to me as the day has gone on

ive made a point of not coming after you too hard because i wanted to give you space to solve regardless of your alignment

Much appreciated

fwiw that post was directed at camilia but the sentiment kind of applies to you as well :P

[staypositivefriend]

In my experience, sig is a very responsible player. It's unusual for him to miss a vote and even more unlikely if he has a team counting on him.

I still feel like if there's exactly one wolf in Six/Sig then it's probably just Six as he kind of feels too aware of what's happening in the thread.

Hopefully they start playing tomorrow tbh.

agreed

[Dennis]

Oh cool we're jumping seanzie now

[Camilla]

Vote: Sean

Noted.