Art UPickish D3

[Scotty]

God this is an ugly spread of votes. Ends in 12 hours.

Current vote totals:
Genny (2): Kate, falcon
Quin (2): pyxxy, Dubz
Roxy (2): zenon, Scotty
Thunal (2): Seanzie, Dennis
pyxxy (1): potentialsheltervet
Scotty (1): lemonfairy
Seanzie (1): Quin

[Scotty]

Well that’s embarrassing

wow forgot he died

Derp clear denied

[Scotty]

This is a post to tell you that I'm voting Roxy

and why are -you- voting for Roxy?

[Scotty]

in the spirit of pride month have a rainbow list


Lemon
Dennis

potentialsheltervet
pyxxy
Thunal33

Falcon
Roxy
Zenon
Genny


Kate
Dubz


Scotty
Seanzie

I’m gonna keep defending you, even if it kills me

[Scotty]

I'd vote for Roxy.

And yet

[Scotty]

My Townlean on Seanzie that I had d1 is gone. I no longer feel comfortable with him as my mason

I want a divorce

[Seanzie]

My Townlean on Seanzie that I had d1 is gone. I no longer feel comfortable with him as my mason

I want a divorce

Why?

Also I didn't agree to be masons. You said that after I tongue-in-cheek agreed with your Creature read.

[Seanzie]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

[Seanzie]

I'd vote for Roxy.

And yet

And yet indeed.

[Scotty]

My Townlean on Seanzie that I had d1 is gone. I no longer feel comfortable with him as my mason

I want a divorce

Why?

Also I didn't agree to be masons. You said that after I tongue-in-cheek agreed with your Creature read.

I woke up from my drunken stupor and realized my mom wouldn’t approve

No but actually, I just looked at your iso and feel like while we have a lot of the same types of reads, yours just seem a bit more surface level. I feel like you’re saying the right things, which is why I initially agree with you.

You’re not a major ping, mind you. You’re just now a scumlean.

[Scotty]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

[Seanzie]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

[Scotty]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

[Seanzie]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

[Scotty]

Pyxxy is bad.

For someone that is a self-described mech lover, why have you not even talked about mech this game? There’s many many claims, and your iso is mostly ‘oops, blush, die demon, creature deserved to die, I’m a little teacup’ type stuff.

You’ve said you don’t have time until at least d3, which like…ok. But you have enough time to fluff post. I know I’m one to talk- I feel like half my iso is just fluff.

But here’s the difference- my fluff is *attached* to my body. When you pet me, you realize you’re petting something living and breathing.
Your fluff is just floating in the wind, with nothing of substance attached; a proverbial hairball, if you will.

I just expect more of you with the amount of posts you have.

I’d vote for you but I also think roxy needs some pressure.

[Scotty]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?

[Seanzie]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?

No.

[Scotty]

Current rainbow

Kate
Quin

Falcon
Zenon
Dennis

Seanzie
Dubz
Potentialsheltervet

Thunal
Lemonfairy

Genny
Roxy
Pyxxy

Apparently if your name ends in a -y, I suspect you

[Scotty]

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?

No.

ok I’ll bite. Whyfor

[Seanzie]

Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?

No.

ok I’ll bite. Whyfor

I kinda believe you didn't realize Creature was dead, which would be weird as mafia.

[Scotty]

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?

No.

ok I’ll bite. Whyfor

I kinda believe you didn't realize Creature was dead, which would be weird as mafia.

ah

Well

To be frank, I’ve dumbtold on purpose as mafia, and I’ve also just been dumb as both alignments. This is definitely the latter, and probably doesn’t need to be AI. My memory is spotty sometimes and try not to fall prey to my own lapses but it happens

[Scotty]

@Zenon, I just ranked you as a Townlean, and I don’t know why. Vibe read I guess?

When you roll mafia, what is your feeling? Like, does it make you feel anxious?

[genny]

Current rainbow

Kate
Quin

Falcon
Zenon
Dennis

Seanzie
Dubz
Potentialsheltervet

Thunal
Lemonfairy

Genny
Roxy
Pyxxy

Apparently if your name ends in a -y, I suspect you

Scott-y, there can be only one?

[Dubz]

I still don’t think Quin is the droid you’re looking for, @pyxxy and @Dubz

I don’t think he’s bad

Is it just the timing of him voting for you d1 or is there more?

[Dubz]

I am pleased to see rainbow lists are popular here

[Scotty]

Current rainbow

Kate
Quin

Falcon
Zenon
Dennis

Seanzie
Dubz
Potentialsheltervet

Thunal
Lemonfairy

Genny
Roxy
Pyxxy

Apparently if your name ends in a -y, I suspect you

Scott-y, there can be only one?

SHE LIVES

[Scotty]

I still don’t think Quin is the droid you’re looking for, @pyxxy and @Dubz

I don’t think he’s bad

Is it just the timing of him voting for you d1 or is there more?

I just believe he is authentic.

[Dubz]

I still don’t think Quin is the droid you’re looking for, @pyxxy and @Dubz

I don’t think he’s bad

Is it just the timing of him voting for you d1 or is there more?

I just believe he is authentic.

Yeah I don't feel the same. Almost every time he posts there's alarm bells in my head.

[Dubz]

Also, what's with the Roxy votes? Has she even done anything?

[Dubz]

Current rainbow

Kate
Quin

Falcon
Zenon
Dennis

Seanzie
Dubz
Potentialsheltervet

Thunal
Lemonfairy

Genny
Roxy
Pyxxy

Apparently if your name ends in a -y, I suspect you

Scott-y, there can be only one?

gennnnnyyyyyyyy

Are you howling?

[Scotty]

Also, what's with the Roxy votes? Has she even done anything?

No, and that’s weird to me.

I’m not ruling out she could be, but putting some pressure on her is important.

Kate, who is now universally townread, has said she didn’t see that usual Town Roxy initially, and i trust her read of Roxy [if I trust Kate, which I do]

[Dubz]

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?

No.

ok I’ll bite. Whyfor

I kinda believe you didn't realize Creature was dead, which would be weird as mafia.

Weird for Scotty in particular or weird in general?
Because I've seen woofs forget who was dead or pretend to forget who was dead...so many times. I've done it myself (mostly the actual forgetting).

[Scotty]

I still don’t think Quin is the droid you’re looking for, @pyxxy and @Dubz

I don’t think he’s bad

Is it just the timing of him voting for you d1 or is there more?

I just believe he is authentic.

Yeah I don't feel the same. Almost every time he posts there's alarm bells in my head.

Quin’s a tough cookie to crack. He looks rather suspicious, which I actually associate more with town Quin from my play memory with him, if that makes sense

No, I don’t have receipts.

[Scotty]

That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?

No.

ok I’ll bite. Whyfor

I kinda believe you didn't realize Creature was dead, which would be weird as mafia.

Weird for Scotty in particular or weird in general?
Because I've seen woofs forget who was dead or pretend to forget who was dead...so many times. I've done it myself (mostly the actual forgetting).

Yeah, it’s pretty non alignment indicative for me

[Thunal33]

actually, I'd go for Thunal first and then look at Seanzie again after if Thunal flips red
because it kind of reminds me of what Seanzie was doing to Epi in a previous game

Still have a lot to catch up on but I'm actually liking Lemon's posting. Her skipping to thinking Seanzie/me are distancing because of a previous game is the kind of out there thought that imo is easier to actually think than to fabricate.

[Thunal33]

If you're voting me or scumreading me please have an actual case on me. I was feeling sick last night so I couldn't be as active as I would like, and I was multigaming all d1. Me being "uninspiring" or "not that active" isn't scummy. Sheeping Seanzie's read is also bad because he suspects me pretty much every game we play together.

[Thunal33]

guess this is another game where lemon gets misexed earlygame for having spicy reads that other people don't agree with and no one cares enough to think twice

Yeah, Lemon is town. Get off her.

[Thunal33]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

There was the push on seanzie I talked about before, but I also don't really like how they are sorta surface level with their reads. Like how they townread my paranoia before, and townread me struggling to put into words why I found their seanzie push sus

I never pushed Seanzie. I made a single post saying I didn't townread him but I didn't scumread him on content and I didn't actually push him. I townread him after his posting today.

Also, welcome to my town game. I look for little tells that come from a town or scum mindset because I think they're usually more effective than generalizations. Trust me, I could easily come up with better/more convincing reasons if I were scum.

On a side note I don't think I'd be PoEd this easily if the game were easy. I think there's at least one deepwolf, probably multiple and I'll do digging today to find them. I have some paranoia on Scotty rn.

[Thunal33]

Well that’s embarrassing

wow forgot he died

Derp clear denied

Honestly, this is part of the paranoia I mentioned on Scotty. I know that after Creature flipped I immediately was annoyed I was wrong, wondered about Seanzie's alignment, and really hoped I didn't make a determining vote for a town on t/w wagons. There were a whole bunch of emotions and thoughts going through my head and I would not just forget Creature flipped town. I'd expect town Scotty to not easily forget too, especially repeated times.

[Thunal33]

@Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

I'll worry about being wrong when I have a confident scumread, and I'll get excited when I have a confident scumread. So far I haven't had one. And about the qualifiers thing, it's actually towny for me in a weird way. Last game I started out (as wolf) by purposely not using words like "but" like I avoided when I used to play actively, got widely townread, and then realized I could sprinkle in the occasional "but" or qualifier. This game I took that with me and felt relieved that I could speak more naturally with qualifiers especially when I realized how different my town game was to the wolf game I just had. I took the approach that since I'm town people would find me if I spoke naturally.

This also solidifies my townread on you. I think this depth of observation is pretty much textbook town!Seanzie and difficult to replicate.

[Thunal33]

Although I'm struggling to find footing with scumreads, I do have some pretty confident townreads which is something:
Kate
Falcon
Seanzie
Lemonfairy

And my less confident townreads are Dennis, PSV, and Zenon.

[Seanzie]

Scotty has convinced me to not townread Scotty.

[Kate]

I still don’t think Quin is the droid you’re looking for, @pyxxy and @Dubz

I don’t think he’s bad

point me in another direction, I don't have the brain space to make real reads in this game currently, so I will sheep you so long as it's not killing dennis

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

Why are we doing this?

[Kate]

Kate
Falcon
Thunal
Scotty
Dennis
Roxy
Lemonfairy
Zenon
Quin
Pyxxy
PSV
DUBZ
Seanzie
Genny

[Kate]

Although I'm struggling to find footing with scumreads, I do have some pretty confident townreads which is something:
Kate
Falcon
Seanzie
Lemonfairy

And my less confident townreads are Dennis, PSV, and Zenon.

I'm reading psv now. Something rang wrong in her posts yesterday but I can't quite put my finger on it. An iso is in order.

[Kate]

as you can see, I am just a silly lemon and definitely not evil or nefarious

Ironically, we’re now seeing the OMGUS juxtaposition that zenon was talking about with you

Uh huh, but now that it's been brought up it can't be used to read alignment effectively.
Though I think lemonfairy is more likely not a hit. Her posts give me the same vibe as when she was getting mischopped last game (solar system).

You mean the absolute silence? Your unwavering defense of her has just made me more confident and has also made me doubt your towniness. I mean defending a low posting friend is one thing, but you're taking it over the top. So either one of two things is happening. 1. You are bad and know she town or, more likely imo, youre partners.

[potentialsheltervet]

Current rainbow

Kate
Quin

Falcon
Zenon
Dennis

Seanzie
Dubz
Potentialsheltervet

Thunal
Lemonfairy

Genny
Roxy
Pyxxy

Apparently if your name ends in a -y, I suspect you

And I was all yellow

[potentialsheltervet]

as you can see, I am just a silly lemon and definitely not evil or nefarious

Ironically, we’re now seeing the OMGUS juxtaposition that zenon was talking about with you

Uh huh, but now that it's been brought up it can't be used to read alignment effectively.
Though I think lemonfairy is more likely not a hit. Her posts give me the same vibe as when she was getting mischopped last game (solar system).

You mean the absolute silence? Your unwavering defense of her has just made me more confident and has also made me doubt your towniness. I mean defending a low posting friend is one thing, but you're taking it over the top. So either one of two things is happening. 1. You are bad and know she town or, more likely imo, youre partners.

Wha?

[Thunal33]

Although I'm struggling to find footing with scumreads, I do have some pretty confident townreads which is something:
Kate
Falcon
Seanzie
Lemonfairy

And my less confident townreads are Dennis, PSV, and Zenon.

I'm reading psv now. Something rang wrong in her posts yesterday but I can't quite put my finger on it. An iso is in order.

I will look at her more closely. My townlean on her was more feels than anything - I thought her approach was similar to Solar System and she didn't give me any scum pings in real time.

[Thunal33]

as you can see, I am just a silly lemon and definitely not evil or nefarious

Ironically, we’re now seeing the OMGUS juxtaposition that zenon was talking about with you

Uh huh, but now that it's been brought up it can't be used to read alignment effectively.
Though I think lemonfairy is more likely not a hit. Her posts give me the same vibe as when she was getting mischopped last game (solar system).

You mean the absolute silence? Your unwavering defense of her has just made me more confident and has also made me doubt your towniness. I mean defending a low posting friend is one thing, but you're taking it over the top. So either one of two things is happening. 1. You are bad and know she town or, more likely imo, youre partners.

This was after Lemonfairy's return btw.