Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Wins]

[tutuu]

7 out of 13 players are currently not voting
5 out of 13 players never voted at all today their name isnt in the poll

would help guys to have people pushing each other more, voting and stuff. solidify the game and stuff. make the mafia squirm. right now they're chilling. altho i have no idea which wolf to push myself but im hoping maybe u guys do

tag 'em

is my opinion

@Roxy @fingersplints @Caitlin @hollowkatt @Spacedaisy plis

my vote is sacred. You may throw yours out on a whim I do not. I vote. I vote once. You do you honey <3

Oki

[Roxy]

@Kate

ive almost never seen a mafia game in which the person getting killed n1 had all bad reads

however, i have BEEN IN A TON OF MAFIA GAMES in which the person dying n1 had decent reads, and THEY WERE NOT LISTENED TO, and then TOWN LOST

in my experience town seanzie, should be survive D1, is nearly impossible to eliminate. Kinda like Jack yeah? So sure, could be reads, could be SPK management. until/unless we see a flip of his outlier reads (top towns or top wolves) saying Seanzie was killed for reads isn't something you can really stake the game on.

Lol. Should we stake the game on this post?

Vote [VOTE: hk] aubergine

depends if you'd also like to stake it on mine that essentially said the same thing as hk. or you could make an argument that we should just sheep sean blindly, i'm willing to hear that argument that has yet to be made. i am ok with tutuu saying they want to vote within sean's poe, this is broad enough for me, acceptable. what do you personally think kate? same as tutuu or were your thoughts somewhere else?

Porscha, I'm just quoting this now bc I want to explain my thought process to you. I appreciate your kind words and request. I'm just to tired to revisit this right now.

Here Porscha is telling you that she had posted a similar idea that Sean's reads should not be looked at but you chose instead to go after HKatt, why? Why not Porscha? Who I believe was first to suggest it?

Here:

You know damn well sean was killed cuz he was universally tr and his reads dont matter

cap he wasn't universally tr'ed. me and cait were more tr'ed. fs and belzy had a bit of a scuffle w sean

Lmao ok so which of his townreads is wrong and correct and which of his sr reads is wrong and correct that you are able to discern what reads got him killed then

wat the heck how should i know

Exactly. So you should ignore Sean's reads until later in the game when we get flips and compare to his list

Tell me why I'm wrong then, newb

Then there was this unfortunate post by you to pyx:

I'd like to remind everyone that HK is actually only at 3 votes, so right now wagons are

Nook - 4 Belzy, Porscha, Spacedaisy, Caitlin
Pyxxy - 3 tutuu, Lime Coke, fingersplints
HK - 3 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, DrWilgy, Seanzie

Let's look at belzy, porscha, daisy, Caitlin nook wilg and sean.

Nook and sean obviously not bad.

Wilgy is wilgy, and I don't like to go there, as mentioned previously.

Belzy the first on Nook (probably not bad but will iso) Porscha/daisy/Caitlin probably one baddie in there.

One of those 3 were probably saving hallowkatt. Probably, maybe?

@pyxxy these were the posts I was referring to.

First your list included the dead which you seem unaware of, then you post out of the 3 - Porscha, Daisy, Caitlyn there is one baddie in there, then say one of them was prob saving HKatt - and you qualify the whole thing with a Probably,maybe? Yeah this is not Town Kate this is wishy washy Kate trying be a blendy blender. Also leaving yourself easy outs for when you are wrong. Something Town Kate just does not give a shit about.

[Caitlin]

Just so I maybe get some cred postgame

Falcon/Roxy is my mafia team guess

[tutuu]

Cait still town for me

[tutuu]

Just so I maybe get some cred postgame

Falcon/Roxy is my mafia team guess

U should self pres

[Roxy]

Spoiler: show

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

No, I'm no longer SR Kate. I am just lazy

really you guys??? I do tbs.

Well, let's put it this way. I'm not looking at her for a flip today, but she's not a solid TR of mine.



If she solves, she stays. What are you seeing from her lately?

Nothing at all and that is my point.
What makes you doubt yourself here?

[Caitlin]

If a replacement isn't found I will self pres more near EoD

Otherwise the replacement can self pres

[Roxy]

Just so I maybe get some cred postgame

Falcon/Roxy is my mafia team guess

nah sorry babes you will only have embarrassment

[falcon45ca]

Spoiler: show

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

No, I'm no longer SR Kate. I am just lazy

really you guys??? I do tbs.

Well, let's put it this way. I'm not looking at her for a flip today, but she's not a solid TR of mine.



If she solves, she stays. What are you seeing from her lately?

Nothing at all and that is my point.
What makes you doubt yourself here?

I guess I'm just willing to give her some lead to get into the game, bit yer so fuckin hard in the paint (love it) that I'll sheep your vote



Cuz ya, I don't think I've seen much solving outside of HK, and that solve feels like it's largely based off his emotional reaction

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: kate] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Just so I maybe get some cred postgame

Falcon/Roxy is my mafia team guess

How do you feel about Lime Cokes vote on you, or SpaceDaisy?

[Roxy]

also why me @Caitlin quite out of the blue since my name had yet to come out your mouth except to say my entry was the most awesome you had ever seen!

[Caitlin]

I forgot that all 3 wolves were still alive

Lime Coke or Daisy can be the 3rd

And I obv dont like either vote; especially not after I had an imo very townie D1

[Roxy]

Just so I maybe get some cred postgame

Falcon/Roxy is my mafia team guess

How do you feel about Lime Cokes vote on you, or SpaceDaisy?

he was mad just bc I made the joke to Kate so yah idgaf

[Caitlin]

also why me @Caitlin quite out of the blue since my name had yet to come out your mouth except to say my entry was the most awesome you had ever seen!

Thats very overexaggerated

And I feel your recent reads havent been that great

Ftr Ive barely read; considering I'm just waiting till a replacement is finally found

[Roxy]

Spoiler: show

gm.

Last night was a hell night and I'll probably not be around very much today.

The new Caitlin wagon is interesting, but I'm not sure why we'd be solving there today if someone wouldn't mind iterating it for me.

@Belzy and @falcon45ca do you still think Kate is W or are you just lingering there?

No, I'm no longer SR Kate. I am just lazy

really you guys??? I do tbs.

Well, let's put it this way. I'm not looking at her for a flip today, but she's not a solid TR of mine.



If she solves, she stays. What are you seeing from her lately?

Nothing at all and that is my point.
What makes you doubt yourself here?

I guess I'm just willing to give her some lead to get into the game, bit yer so fuckin hard in the paint (love it) that I'll sheep your vote



Cuz ya, I don't think I've seen much solving outside of HK, and that solve feels like it's largely based off his emotional reaction

I have never lead a elim on her before and tbs I have doubts but not enough to ignore my own gut read, vibe and tone of her.

[falcon45ca]

I forgot that all 3 wolves were still alive

Lime Coke or Daisy can be the 3rd

And I obv dont like either vote; especially not after I had an imo very townie D1

So all the wolves are voting you?

[Caitlin]

I forgot that all 3 wolves were still alive

Lime Coke or Daisy can be the 3rd

And I obv dont like either vote; especially not after I had an imo very townie D1

So all the wolves are voting you?

Roxy isnt voting me + 'can be' + you unvoted me

[falcon45ca]

That just feels like such a myopic solve, that it's intended to being vague and pure OMGUS

[Roxy]

also why me @Caitlin quite out of the blue since my name had yet to come out your mouth except to say my entry was the most awesome you had ever seen!

Thats very overexaggerated

And I feel your recent reads havent been that great

Ftr Ive barely read; considering I'm just waiting till a replacement is finally found

if you have barely read then you have probs missed them <3 it's ok I get it you want out.
Not over exaggerated just the truth. Sorry.
Maybe we will see you in another game soon <3

[fingersplints]

Just so I maybe get some cred postgame

Falcon/Roxy is my mafia team guess

How do you feel about Lime Cokes vote on you, or SpaceDaisy?

Gth spacedsisy read?

[falcon45ca]

Just so I maybe get some cred postgame

Falcon/Roxy is my mafia team guess

How do you feel about Lime Cokes vote on you, or SpaceDaisy?

Gth spacedsisy read?

She feels opportunistic. GTH she's a wolf

[falcon45ca]

I did not like her Nook read, and I feel she should know his playstyle better than that

[falcon45ca]

It'd be like voting Neon out cuz she posted an anime GIF, totally NAI

[Roxy]

Just so I maybe get some cred postgame

Falcon/Roxy is my mafia team guess

How do you feel about Lime Cokes vote on you, or SpaceDaisy?

Gth spacedsisy read?

splints:
GTH Kate read.

[Belzy]

Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What didn't you like about Sean?

Wow. You ask this d2 post his n1 death? FoS.

[fingersplints]

Leaning town now surprisingly

[Belzy]

Leaning town now surprisingly

How is that surprising you?

[falcon45ca]

Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What didn't you like about Sean?

Wow. You ask this d2 post his n1 death? FoS.

Yup. What didn't you like about Sean?

[tutuu]

I love how the two midgets voting with me both have names starting with P. Somehow it looks adorable. Im imaging us like these three good-for-nothing snotty kids living in a dystopian junk world, but we have big dreams and big hearts. Im the most grown up one and i spout ambitions of getting out of the junktown we were born in, and out there conquering the galaxy on our scrap mecha robot. Pyxxy is very short, his eyes are starry and his cheeks blushed as he listens in awe and tries to cheer me up. Porscha is this tiny hamster, she doesnt talk, she just makes animal noises and is being cute and fluffy @pyxxy @Porscha

[Belzy]

Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What didn't you like about Sean?

Wow. You ask this d2 post his n1 death? FoS.

Yup. What didn't you like about Sean?

I said plenty on Sean d1. You can read it back. No point in repeating myself over a dead player. Also, I eventually changed my Sean vote to someone else. You are very sus that this is your point of interest rn. What about whom to lynch today?

[Belzy]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
Lets spice it up

[Roxy]

Leaning town now surprisingly

why? yep I need more bc tbh I cba'd to believe this.

[Belzy]

I am behind, catching up wise.

LC, Kate, Falcon and Caitlin are our wagon leaders. What made Finger and HK less point of interest?

[Roxy]

Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What didn't you like about Sean?

Wow. You ask this d2 post his n1 death? FoS.

Yup. What didn't you like about Sean?

I said plenty on Sean d1. You can read it back. No point in repeating myself over a dead player. Also, I eventually changed my Sean vote to someone else. You are very sus that this is your point of interest rn. What about whom to lynch today?

this is mafia sometimes we repeat ourselves quite often, why did you change your vote? I was really hoping you would help me make this case today since I was quite alone D 1.

[Roxy]

I am behind, catching up wise.

LC, Kate, Falcon and Caitlin are our wagon leaders. What made Finger and HK less point of interest?

who is LC? Brad or Lime Coke?

[Belzy]

Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What didn't you like about Sean?

Wow. You ask this d2 post his n1 death? FoS.

Yup. What didn't you like about Sean?

I said plenty on Sean d1. You can read it back. No point in repeating myself over a dead player. Also, I eventually changed my Sean vote to someone else. You are very sus that this is your point of interest rn. What about whom to lynch today?

this is mafia sometimes we repeat ourselves quite often, why did you change your vote? I was really hoping you would help me make this case today since I was quite alone D 1.

You want me to make a case on a dead player?

After Sean and I were done with our conversation about our history, I focussed on the rest of the game again.

[Belzy]

I am behind, catching up wise.

LC, Kate, Falcon and Caitlin are our wagon leaders. What made Finger and HK less point of interest?

who is LC? Brad or Lime Coke?

Lime Coke. Who is Brad?

[Belzy]

Why would a Brad be a LC?

[fingersplints]

Leaning town now surprisingly

How is that surprising you?

I’m stubborn in my suspicions. Surprised I changed my mind that easily

[Caitlin]

Brad is LC

[Belzy]

Brad is LC

I am behind, catching up wise.

LC, Kate, Falcon and Caitlin are our wagon leaders. What made Finger and HK less point of interest?

who is LC? Brad or Lime Coke?

Explain please

[falcon45ca]

Pyxxy and Seanzie are doing things which is better than nothing.

Probably not voting them either

I semi-like Pyyxxy carefully, but not Sean. What about Sean is better than nothing?

What didn't you like about Sean?

Wow. You ask this d2 post his n1 death? FoS.

Yup. What didn't you like about Sean?

I said plenty on Sean d1. You can read it back. No point in repeating myself over a dead player. Also, I eventually changed my Sean vote to someone else. You are very sus that this is your point of interest rn. What about whom to lynch today?

Ha, well I've also posted about what does interest me this RD...you can read it back.



I asked a question, your snappy tone makes it seem like your nervous you could get pushed for Sean's death...which is pretty towny, cuz if you were Maf I don't think you'd have put yourself in that position

[Caitlin]

LC, Lime Coke, Brad and Bradland are all the same person is the explanation

[falcon45ca]

Why would a Brad be a LC?

Bradland elsewhere, Lime Coke here




It's a dual username thing

[Belzy]

LC, Lime Coke, Brad and Bradland are all the same person is the explanation

@Roxy what is your problem with me? First you make me look like the bad guy when I voted Kate, and now this.

[fingersplints]

Brad is LC

Roxy and I and others have been playing for over a decade with a player who goes by “LC” (Long Con) it’s just throwing her off
LC has always been synonymous with Long Con.

[Kate]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Caitlin shield activated

This a good 2nd wagon to hollowkatt.

[Kate]

ugh, I was looking at the final votes.

Nook: Belzy, Caitlin, Porscha, Spacedaisy
pyxxy: tutuu, Wilgy, Lime Coke, splints
HK: Seanzie, nook
Tutuu: pyxxy
Kate: Roxy
Baker/Lime Coke: falcon

Ok, if wolf, pyxxy could have self pres voted, but they didn't. I really think it's likely this was v/v.

HK was voted by two known civs, this doesn't tell us anything about HK's alignment.

If that's true, then neither wagon can be exclusively focused upon. I would be willing to bet, in fact, that there is two wolves at most on either of these wagons. I am heavily leaning Kate wolf right now as a missing vote. I doubt it was intentional, I don't question that something was happening in real life, but I didn't care for her first entrance and I cared even less for her entrance today.

Ok, so where does that leave me?

I'm leaning town on:
Lime Coke, Caitlin, Roxy (this one is weak, I'd still like to hear more from her), pyxxy.

Uncertain on:
Splints, Wilgy, HK, falcon, tutuu, Porscha

I'm leaning wolf on:
Kate

I'm going to look at that uncertain group in ISOs. I should be honest here though, I'm not convinced of anything, which is why they are all "lean" instead of just a read. I make no promises I won't change my mind along the way lol.

Sound reasoning means she made an argument that was thought out, not that I agree with it.
Also, when have you known me to hide as a baddie?

I don’t think you are hiding. I think the reasoning that you bought was too easy and far from the kind of play any old school player would make. Would you kill the person giving you the hardest wolf read? Would SVS? Would Roxy? Not a chance. My being bad here makes no sense, particularly to those who came up like the old schoolers. I can buy people who haven’t played with me for over a decade thinking maybe I did, but not you.

I think you are a wolf who hasn’t had time to engage and took some easy shots that I can’t buy you normally would as a civ.

I think youre misunderstanding me. I don't think youre bad. I was simply saying that she had reasons, not just a wold guess. In fact, I'd strongly argue against voting you as I've said.

Everyone should be voting hollowkatt.

Where is he? Why, if he were not bad, would he disappear after that epic breakdown and not come back? But I'm here.

[falcon45ca]

Tinfoil HK & Kate are teammates