Sesame Street Mafia Game Over Town Wins

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'll admit I'm in pretty low WiM tier right now

[Belzy]

If Belzy town then Thunal and SVS both maf.

This is the world we are living in thunal should be turbod

SVS is wolf, either with Thunal, or is using Thunal to frame me. I will quote some SVS stuff that is interesting to read. SVS should always be lynched before Thunal.

[Belzy]

Seanzie, what 1-2 names would you veto today?

You and Kate.

As a more serious note, I veto'd Ted/Belzy/Lime wagons not long ago, and I still think none of them are good elims. Lime is no longer a wagon, but people are still on Ted and Belzy.

Yeah, I don't love any of these. For now will [VOTE: Robyn] aubergine, I've read her like 3 times and still can't find her town, and I really wanted to. That could change, obvs, but right now I'm not feeling the Ted wagon. I also don't feel the Belzy wagon, and I am null reading Thunal. I haven't seen her town game, and what I'm seeing here doesn't look alot like her (baddie) Seven game, which I saw pretty up close. But I also think she could def fool me, especially since I don't have any real frame of reference for her other than one very intense game where we were wolf partners.

Seanzie, what 1-2 names would you veto today?

You and Kate.

It took me a second lol.

SVS does not feel the Ted and Belzy wagons, null reads Thunal, and votes Robyn cuz "still can't find her town'. This post includes defending a so called null read Thunal.

[Belzy]

SVS, who are your top town?

and/or

How do you feel about the S-tier townreads we're bandying about (SVS, Seanzie, Splints)?

I think Sean is town and have since his one big post early in the game. I don't think bad Sean would have made that post. It started up too much conversation, from a baddie perspective, and it annoyed people who felt they were being towny ( ). I see no reason for bad Sean to have made that post.

I lean town on Splints, I liked her GTH question, even though I was on her losing end, and I liked this:

@Belzy if you could make one concise post on your case on lc I would appreciate it

She never says much, but she makes more excuses for it when she's bad, and says more impactful things like ^^ when she's not.

Not counting you or Kate, since you're not on the poll, I would say Sean and Belzy would be the two I'd take out of the POE, and if you two are in the mix, Sean and Kate.

Calls Sean town. And town lean FS. Takes Sean and Belzy out of POE.

[Belzy]

OK, and from reading Zenon, she's voting Ted to save Belzy cause Belzy is "town as fuck". Okey Dokey.

Having looked at Belzys voters, Epi said he's gonna move his vote. It looked to me like Belzy/Sean got into a t/t tunnel, so I won't fault Sean for that, even if i don't agree with him.

I read through LC, and didn't see a vote reason for his Belzy vote, mainly stuff about Robyn, who he had previously voted for. @Lime Coke why did you vote for Belzy? Sorry if I missed it.

I could try to explain my epi take, but for some reason i kinda think you’ll use it as a way to think im a wolf just like you did with my kate reasoning

so im gucci

I wouldn't mind hearing it.

Me neither.

That is very much not why I'm voting Ted

That's how it read to me. Why am I wrong?

'Why am I wrong?' is an interesting way of phrasing that. Really putting Zenon in a tough position. SVS makes what SVS says more superior in comparison to what others say.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Don't actually feel great about it but it's there.

[Belzy]

@Zenon thanks for the explanation, I must have missed it when I read your posts.

Also agree re Robyn walking away before the situation plays out being NAI.

I don’t see her as towny though, so there’s that.

Thanks Zenon for explaining. So SVS actually looks good now over that. So I give SVS that.

[Belzy]

@Zenon thanks for the explanation, I must have missed it when I read your posts.

Also agree re Robyn walking away before the situation plays out being NAI.

I don’t see her as towny though, so there’s that.

She's town bet

I don't feel as strongly about it as I did the first time the three of us played together, but I do feel better about the people on the other wagons, and I just wasn't finding her town, and I read her over a few times.

Does not feel strongly on Robyn, but sticks with finding Robyn not town cuz does not like the other wagons.

[Belzy]

@Kate @Seanzie @DrWilgy @Zenon give me good reasons why you're on me.

I'm not them but i'm gonna be honest here. I haven't seen much to think you're bad. You don't look much like you did in Seven. And I don't have a baseline for town 'you'.

But you know, that whole thing where it looked like you and Belzy were trying to flashwagon Wilgy, then you two had that little tag team thing going on, ending with Belzy, "I don't see why people are voting Thunal" and "I hope we keep Thunal alive" almost made me want to vote for you, lol. It almost looked teamish. Almost.

I still feel about Robyn as I did, so I'm not moving my vote, but I don't think that little feint at Wilgy helped you.

This is actually a nice story to read. I know Thunal from Mafia Cafe, and as long as I townread her, I think lynching her is potentially a great loss for town.

I agree, I have less experience with her but think she’s super smart and skillful and would be a loss to town if she is town.

But it’s not a story, it’s how those posts made me feel in real time. It just felt kinda weird.

Agrees with Belzy a town!Thunal would be a loss for town.

[Belzy]

Honestly, that's really nice to hear.

You won the thread game in Seven, I sat in the chat and cheered you on. You were super impressive, thus also super scary

Compliments Thunal.

[Belzy]

All righty then.

Gonna start with sheeping Kate; she was killed for a reason.

I don't have alot of screen time tonight, but will tomorrow and the next day.


I still feel that Thunal was town, and Belzy was pocketing her. I reread the EOD, and Thunal felt very sincere to me.

Belzy did not.

She was trying to Turbo Wilgy, and during the last few minutes, while her and Thunal were both posting, she moved her vote around alot. First it was on Wilgy, then she moved it to *Thunal* before ending on Robyn, and she didn't post any of the changes.

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine and not planning on changing it. Belzy was trying to set Thunal up, imo.

^^ And then the very next post is today ^^

A total shift. After softing Thunal, subtle co-lynching Robyn, now putting on a whole something else.

Starts off saying to sheep Kate. Def potential right here SVS killed off Kate to use her d1 scumreads against town.

Says to still find Thunal. Who was a null read on d1. Says Belzy pockets Thunal. Belzy was a townread on d1. SVS even took Belzy out of POE.

Says Belzy tried to turbo Wilg. If SVS thinks Thunal is town and Robyn flipped town, why is it a bad look on Belzy to try to turbo Wilg? Also knowing Belzy townread Thunal d1, and only voted Robyn by lack of a better wagon.

Says Belzy changes votes a lot, and didn't post any of these changes. Which i 100% know is a lie. I posted them all minus 1(!) misclick which I corrected within seconds. I never voted Thunal bar 3 accidental seconds. So SVS using this as a big part of the case on Belzy, being false about not posting multiple vote changes, plus the complete change of heart, and using Kate's death to start d2 right off with a case on a former townread, based (partly or mostly) on lies is very high frame/wolf equity.

[Belzy]

SVS needs to be lynched here always.

[Belzy]

SVS prolly wrote d2's first post during n1. Agenda much?

[Belzy]

Still behind. Will follow for now.

Why epi?

[Belzy]

Also, if SVS was here to see my misclick: why wait until today mentioning it? Could have asked me about it. Oh, that is right... I am being framed here.

Killed Kate, frames me for it, ...says I pocket Thunal, ...either SVS pockets Thunal, or are w together. Thunal's d2 is also fishy enouhg, so could be. And/or epi. Or...

[Belzy]

And if SVS did not see the misclick, then SVS is *lying* really even more more more. The plurar vote changes wo posting them is a lie no matter what.

The Kate kill and framing me... it is quite obvious.

[Belzy]

Sleeping Kate on thunal

Sheeping?

Did you vote Thunal, or where did your vote ended eod1?

[tedxtr]

I don't have alot of screen time tonight, but will tomorrow and the next day. But that whole song and dance the end of day, it felt *fake* but it also did not feel like something Thunal would do.

I also don't think Thunal would kill Kate. She's cool headed that way.

being her strongest pusher isn’t enough of a reason?

[Belzy]

Because Belzy is town as fuck mainly

This isn't good enough for me.

Okay how about because my early snap reads win games when people actually listen to them instead of acting like I can't read a game of mafia

The sass isn't helpful at this point.

Good news: your wagon is gone! Come rejoin the discussion with us.

How do you feel about SVS, Seanzie, and fingersplints? They (and Belzy) are emerging as consensus town (caveat, of course, is that it's only D1).

Spending a lot of time talking about “consensus town”

I actually don't like that term. But it's less clunky than 'the people no one wants to vote right now'.

But why focus on those people at all?
It’s day 1. I’m sure there are better things to do than to scrutinise those who most people are ok with right now.

How do you feel about falcon?

Epi?

So why ask someone about Falcon, the most MIA/AFK player of d1? The thread also decided not to lynch Falcon d1 for that reason.

[tedxtr]

could be helpful if someone can make iso links

[tedxtr]

im kinda paranoid that sean / lc are stalling in their suspicions

feels like they’re taking a hard backseat, we need some wolf reads from them

[tedxtr]

@DrWilgy why’d you save thunal?

[Belzy]

I don't actually think SVS lied that Belzy sniped me, but I want to make sure. Did anyone else see Belzy vote me in the poll?

It is a lie tho. You were there eod1. And why don't talk with me about it?

[fingersplints]

SVS needs to be lynched here always.

Hard disagree

[fingersplints]

Voting belzy for that nonsense

[Belzy]

@DrWilgy why’d you save thunal?

GQ

Eod1 ppl moved from Thunal to Robyn.. .

My vote was on Robyn the last hrs of d1

[tedxtr]

splints / svs / mr / zenon seem all fine

Yolo v epi

[tedxtr]

I had sean villa but i need him to state his wolfreads again and push something, otherwise it might fall quick

Same thing with LC. If there’s a wolf in lc / sean, i lean it on being LC cuz sean had more depth of thought and i mindmelded with him more

[Belzy]

Voting belzy for that nonsense

So it is nonsense I say that about SVS whom I caught lying? Only i know what i did every second, so i understand i am the one who knows for sure SVS is lying,,but your reason to vote for me looks just as bad as your eod1. So highly noted.

[S~V~S]

I don't actually think SVS lied that Belzy sniped me, but I want to make sure. Did anyone else see Belzy vote me in the poll?

It is a lie tho. You were there eod1. And why don't talk with me about it?

It is absolutely 100% not a lie.

Like I said last night, I swear it on my dog, which is ultra srs for me.

You can absolutely misconstrue anything else I said from here till Christmas, I saw what I saw.

Lol I’m still in bed, gotta get up walk dog, bbl.

[Belzy]

SVS and FS are scum. I wanted to say it earlier,,but i wanted to talk to FS 1st.

Thunal and epi are also in POE here.

[Belzy]

I don't actually think SVS lied that Belzy sniped me, but I want to make sure. Did anyone else see Belzy vote me in the poll?

It is a lie tho. You were there eod1. And why don't talk with me about it?

It is absolutely 100% not a lie.

Like I said last night, I swear it on my dog, which is ultra srs for me.

You can absolutely misconstrue anything else I said from here till Christmas, I saw what I saw.

Lol I’m still in bed, gotta get up walk dog, bbl.

Was it a 3 or 5 second lasting misclick a few hours before eod1? Cuz that was the only one.

[fingersplints]

This isn't good enough for me.

Okay how about because my early snap reads win games when people actually listen to them instead of acting like I can't read a game of mafia

The sass isn't helpful at this point.

Good news: your wagon is gone! Come rejoin the discussion with us.

How do you feel about SVS, Seanzie, and fingersplints? They (and Belzy) are emerging as consensus town (caveat, of course, is that it's only D1).

Spending a lot of time talking about “consensus town”

I actually don't like that term. But it's less clunky than 'the people no one wants to vote right now'.

But why focus on those people at all?
It’s day 1. I’m sure there are better things to do than to scrutinise those who most people are ok with right now.

How do you feel about falcon?

Epi?

So why ask someone about Falcon, the most MIA/AFK player of d1? The thread also decided not to lynch Falcon d1 for that reason.

Because I tend to have strong opinions about falcon either way.

But I asked in a facetious manner.why are they excused

[fingersplints]

Also, if SVS was here to see my misclick: why wait until today mentioning it? Could have asked me about it. Oh, that is right... I am being framed here.

Killed Kate, frames me for it, ...says I pocket Thunal, ...either SVS pockets Thunal, or are w together. Thunal's d2 is also fishy enouhg, so could be. And/or epi. Or...

Svs would not have killed kate

[Belzy]

I need a sabbitcal if i get mislim'd over a single sincere misclick multiple hours before eod1, which i corrected in 3 seconds by changing it immedialty to the right player.

[fingersplints]

So let’s recap. Belzy thinks I’m mafia for “reasons” and I killed Kate, a friend of mine, who had me as top tier town, because……..?

[Belzy]

Also, if SVS was here to see my misclick: why wait until today mentioning it? Could have asked me about it. Oh, that is right... I am being framed here.

Killed Kate, frames me for it, ...says I pocket Thunal, ...either SVS pockets Thunal, or are w together. Thunal's d2 is also fishy enouhg, so could be. And/or epi. Or...

Svs would not have killed kate

So SVS says Thunal would not kill Kate
And you now say that

You all know me less, so you cannot say it about me

Sucks to be an outstander

[S~V~S]

I don't have alot of screen time tonight, but will tomorrow and the next day. But that whole song and dance the end of day, it felt *fake* but it also did not feel like something Thunal would do.

I also don't think Thunal would kill Kate. She's cool headed that way.

being her strongest pusher isn’t enough of a reason?

No, I just wolfed with Thunal, and being her biggest pusher would be the reason Thunal wouldn’t kill Kate; too obvious. A Kate NK points right at Thunal.

I was literally in the middle of writing the vote Thunal post after the night post went up when I realized that, 1) the vote on Thunal made zero sense in a world where Belzy and Thunal are w/w, and, 2) Thunal would know killing Kate was a bad look for her.

Thunal didn’t kill Kate; Belzy did. I know it in my heart of hearts.

[Belzy]

So let’s recap. Belzy thinks I’m mafia for “reasons” and I killed Kate, a friend of mine, who had me as top tier town, because……..?

Because i say SVS frames me for the Kate kill.

And i dont know you all that well. So dont use me being an outstander against me. I am sure on SVS, not you just yet, but rn i do think so.

[fingersplints]

Also, if SVS was here to see my misclick: why wait until today mentioning it? Could have asked me about it. Oh, that is right... I am being framed here.

Killed Kate, frames me for it, ...says I pocket Thunal, ...either SVS pockets Thunal, or are w together. Thunal's d2 is also fishy enouhg, so could be. And/or epi. Or...

Svs would not have killed kate

So SVS says Thunal would not kill Kate
And you now say that

You all know me less, so you cannot say it about me

Sucks to be an outstander

Kate is very good at mafia. She is killed early a lot. I’ve been on a mafia team with her literal son and have decided to kill her N1.
If it has good reason. I do not see enough reason for svs to kill her

[Belzy]

I don't have alot of screen time tonight, but will tomorrow and the next day. But that whole song and dance the end of day, it felt *fake* but it also did not feel like something Thunal would do.

I also don't think Thunal would kill Kate. She's cool headed that way.

being her strongest pusher isn’t enough of a reason?

No, I just wolfed with Thunal, and being her biggest pusher would be the reason Thunal wouldn’t kill Kate; too obvious. A Kate NK points right at Thunal.

I was literally in the middle of writing the vote Thunal post after the night post went up when I realized that, 1) the vote on Thunal made zero sense in a world where Belzy and Thunal are w/w, and, 2) Thunal would know killing Kate was a bad look for her.

Thunal didn’t kill Kate; Belzy did. I know it in my heart of hearts.

I also know killing Kate would look bad for me. But i am town. So it was not my call. Also thanks all for insulting my play and intelligence here.

[tedxtr]

How is killing kate bad for you?

[fingersplints]

This isn't good enough for me.

Okay how about because my early snap reads win games when people actually listen to them instead of acting like I can't read a game of mafia

The sass isn't helpful at this point.

Good news: your wagon is gone! Come rejoin the discussion with us.

How do you feel about SVS, Seanzie, and fingersplints? They (and Belzy) are emerging as consensus town (caveat, of course, is that it's only D1).

Spending a lot of time talking about “consensus town”

I actually don't like that term. But it's less clunky than 'the people no one wants to vote right now'.

But why focus on those people at all?
It’s day 1. I’m sure there are better things to do than to scrutinise those who most people are ok with right now.

How do you feel about falcon?

Epi?

So why ask someone about Falcon, the most MIA/AFK player of d1? The thread also decided not to lynch Falcon d1 for that reason.

Also you dodged the question about Epi
Noted

[S~V~S]

So let’s recap. Belzy thinks I’m mafia for “reasons” and I killed Kate, a friend of mine, who had me as top tier town, because……..?

Or I killed my best friend night one ( who always gets killed night 1) for shits and giggles.

Splints I saw that vote move; reread the interaction EOD between Thunal and Belzy, it feels so fake and staged. It’s not something Thinal would have done.

[Belzy]

Also, if SVS was here to see my misclick: why wait until today mentioning it? Could have asked me about it. Oh, that is right... I am being framed here.

Killed Kate, frames me for it, ...says I pocket Thunal, ...either SVS pockets Thunal, or are w together. Thunal's d2 is also fishy enouhg, so could be. And/or epi. Or...

Svs would not have killed kate

So SVS says Thunal would not kill Kate
And you now say that

You all know me less, so you cannot say it about me

Sucks to be an outstander

Kate is very good at mafia. She is killed early a lot. I’ve been on a mafia team with her literal son and have decided to kill her N1.
If it has good reason. I do not see enough reason for svs to kill her

I am not fam with Kate and all, so i dont know all of this.

You say you killed Kate n1 when being teamed... could you rephrase it correctly,, cuz that cannot be right.

[tedxtr]

when being teamed with kate’s son

[Belzy]

So let’s recap. Belzy thinks I’m mafia for “reasons” and I killed Kate, a friend of mine, who had me as top tier town, because……..?

Or I killed my best friend night one ( who always gets killed night 1) for shits and giggles.

Splints I saw that vote move; reread the interaction EOD between Thunal and Belzy, it feels so fake and staged. It’s not something Thinal would have done.

My God. You all are best friends and using it all against me. I am so done with this!!!

[Belzy]

when being teamed with kate’s son

Thxxxxxx

So @fingersplints DOEs NK Kate!!! Another lie

[Belzy]

Gang up on Belzy y'a~ll!!!!

Gtfooh

This is too dirty for my taste

[S~V~S]

OK, and from reading Zenon, she's voting Ted to save Belzy cause Belzy is "town as fuck". Okey Dokey.

Having looked at Belzys voters, Epi said he's gonna move his vote. It looked to me like Belzy/Sean got into a t/t tunnel, so I won't fault Sean for that, even if i don't agree with him.

I read through LC, and didn't see a vote reason for his Belzy vote, mainly stuff about Robyn, who he had previously voted for. @Lime Coke why did you vote for Belzy? Sorry if I missed it.

I could try to explain my epi take, but for some reason i kinda think you’ll use it as a way to think im a wolf just like you did with my kate reasoning

so im gucci

I wouldn't mind hearing it.

Me neither.

That is very much not why I'm voting Ted

That's how it read to me. Why am I wrong?

'Why am I wrong?' is an interesting way of phrasing that. Really putting Zenon in a tough position. SVS makes what SVS says more superior in comparison to what others say.

Lol I want her to explain to me why she thinks I’m wrong. Just saying I’m wrong doesn’t help me, or anyone, understand how she’s seeing things. If she thinks I’m wrong, then I want her to tell me why, how do I inderstand her POV to f she doesn’t tell me why I’m wrong?

It’s kinda the opposite of making myself superior.

And being condescending (which I know is a fault I can have, although I wasn’t being so in that post) doesn’t make me a wolf, it would just make me an asshole. Which, yeah, isn’t unheard of.