[TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy I know we've had this conversation before but just confirming that you'd still bet the game on Roxy being town?

I mean, I'd lose to it and say 'good on Roxy for doing what I specifically don't expect from her as W' and move onto the next.

Deja vu here but mind linking some Roxy wolf games?

The faster I clear players like Roxy the more I can solve within the PoE.

I can think of 2 instances where Roxy was wolf recently, but I'd need to find them (no promises, half busy at the moment). One of which I was very much correct on an SR of their teammate (I think it was SVS at the time) and Roxy vehemently defended them.

Alright, ty.

The one I'm remembering specifically was this cursed ass game. Made an absolute fool of myself as town trying to be too cute: viewtopic.php?t=2453

[DrWilgy]

And now I'm annoyed again because I spent like 10 min going through all my posts searching for Roxy, just to find the game that caused me so much shame.

[DrWilgy]

BAH!

[Wiml]

it's 2 wolf team then if yall said only one left?

assuming normal skill players my first instinct is that scum doesn't bus D1 unless the wagon was at least at H-2 and hesitates or lurks - or places a vote early on for distancing and then gets in an awkward position and cant remove it

so we should prolly be looking for people adding useless votes or throwing shade at other players despite having a vote sitting on scum

veeery small chance scum busses for the lols in hopes of mega townpants

One of the big points against Epi is that he all but ignored Lime Coke until 20 or so minutes before EoD1 and was voting on the counterwagon before then. He did eventually vote Lime Coke but the vote wasn't especially meaningful atp.

Wilgy is a complicated case but was on the wagon at a point where it was still otherwise just me+JJJ. He voted the cw at EoD1 but claimed he would've switched back if necessary.

Meanwhile your slot was on the counterwagon. Kate asked about the Lime Coke wagon but never gave an opinion on him.

Others:
- Michelle defended him early and was on the counterwagon but thought he was a wolf later on (didn't switch but says she would have if necessary).
- I was vocally pushing on him most of D1.
- Roxy sheeped me+falcon onto him.
- Abigail was the counterwagon and voted him later on.

[Roxy]

Wilgy I know we've had this conversation before but just confirming that you'd still bet the game on Roxy being town?

I mean, I'd lose to it and say 'good on Roxy for doing what I specifically don't expect from her as W' and move onto the next.

Deja vu here but mind linking some Roxy wolf games?

The faster I clear players like Roxy the more I can solve within the PoE.

I can think of 2 instances where Roxy was wolf recently, but I'd need to find them (no promises, half busy at the moment). One of which I was very much correct on an SR of their teammate (I think it was SVS at the time) and Roxy vehemently defended them.

Alright, ty.

The one I'm remembering specifically was this cursed ass game. Made an absolute fool of myself as town trying to be too cute: viewtopic.php?t=2453

I have mentioned Felt at least a dozen times this game Idk if Wiml is actually serious with this request.

[Wiml]

I thought and read all night the same old tired thread that I have read way too many times this game.
I came to the conclusion that I feel like I want to trust Wiml bc they helped me get to Limey. I want to trust them bc only crazy players bus their only partner D 1. Is Wiml crazy? idk as this is our first game together.

I have seen it happen recently in a lot of games and I always find it quite silly. I mean their are only 2 why bus?? But you kids play diff than me.

Michelle/Epi I do see what you are getting at but I am scared I am trusting the wrong people. I am meaning this mostly to Epi as I *do* have a hard time reading them and ofc they know it. Michelle less so bc you tend to wear your towniness on your sleeve.

Wigly thanks for your response and I feel ya but the niggle is there and not going away.

Princess - I appreciate you and your thoughts on Epi/Michelle/Wiml. Are you sure enough about your read to hammer? Just a question - I am *not* asking you to do it.

I am guessing everyone is in a similar position.

Now we have added ExLight - welcome btw - I have a personal rule not to vote new players (to me or the site in general).
So you are out of my POE already and unless you do something super wild I do not see it changing, the person you replaced is a personal friend of mine and I do feel like I can trust that they were just busy.

Fwiw I also agree that people tend to handle TMI poorly and bus even when they shouldn't.

There's nobody in this game that I suspect of doing that though.

[Wiml]

GTH Wilgy is town.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I thought and read all night the same old tired thread that I have read way too many times this game.
I came to the conclusion that I feel like I want to trust Wiml bc they helped me get to Limey. I want to trust them bc only crazy players bus their only partner D 1. Is Wiml crazy? idk as this is our first game together.

I have seen it happen recently in a lot of games and I always find it quite silly. I mean their are only 2 why bus?? But you kids play diff than me.

Michelle/Epi I do see what you are getting at but I am scared I am trusting the wrong people. I am meaning this mostly to Epi as I *do* have a hard time reading them and ofc they know it. Michelle less so bc you tend to wear your towniness on your sleeve.

Wigly thanks for your response and I feel ya but the niggle is there and not going away.

Princess - I appreciate you and your thoughts on Epi/Michelle/Wiml. Are you sure enough about your read to hammer? Just a question - I am *not* asking you to do it.

I am guessing everyone is in a similar position.

Now we have added ExLight - welcome btw - I have a personal rule not to vote new players (to me or the site in general).
So you are out of my POE already and unless you do something super wild I do not see it changing, the person you replaced is a personal friend of mine and I do feel like I can trust that they were just busy.

I will literally hammer any hammer lol

But yes.

I don't understand why people are trashing the thread state so much

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy I know we've had this conversation before but just confirming that you'd still bet the game on Roxy being town?

I mean, I'd lose to it and say 'good on Roxy for doing what I specifically don't expect from her as W' and move onto the next.

Deja vu here but mind linking some Roxy wolf games?

The faster I clear players like Roxy the more I can solve within the PoE.

I can think of 2 instances where Roxy was wolf recently, but I'd need to find them (no promises, half busy at the moment). One of which I was very much correct on an SR of their teammate (I think it was SVS at the time) and Roxy vehemently defended them.

Alright, ty.

The one I'm remembering specifically was this cursed ass game. Made an absolute fool of myself as town trying to be too cute: viewtopic.php?t=2453

I have mentioned Felt at least a dozen times this game Idk if Wiml is actually serious with this request.

I hadn't realized the game I was thinking on was felt until I backtracked for it. I have awful game memory. Like I can tell you a meta and trend on someone I've observed and can even be confident on it every now and then. Ask me what game that was and who else played and who won and the mechanics and I'll sit there and stare at you like a stupid puppy.

[Wiml]

Wilgy I know we've had this conversation before but just confirming that you'd still bet the game on Roxy being town?

I mean, I'd lose to it and say 'good on Roxy for doing what I specifically don't expect from her as W' and move onto the next.

Deja vu here but mind linking some Roxy wolf games?

The faster I clear players like Roxy the more I can solve within the PoE.

I can think of 2 instances where Roxy was wolf recently, but I'd need to find them (no promises, half busy at the moment). One of which I was very much correct on an SR of their teammate (I think it was SVS at the time) and Roxy vehemently defended them.

Alright, ty.

The one I'm remembering specifically was this cursed ass game. Made an absolute fool of myself as town trying to be too cute: viewtopic.php?t=2453

Lmao thank you but Felt Mafia was the game that I found earlier.

I just wanted a larger same size.

[DrWilgy]

GTH Wilgy is town.

I refuse your pocket once more. It smells of overly ripe fruit.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I spent 500$ on my hair and love it but none of my friends will compliment me

Rawrrr

[Wiml]

GTH Wilgy is town.

I refuse your pocket once more. It smells of overly ripe fruit.

You're still in my PoE and my second choice vote today smh.

[Michelle]

Hiiii
gonna be a bit busy today cuz my college classes are starting again today but I'd appreciate if I was given a bit more time to catch up with what's happening so far
no idea what the setup is, but I'm town vanilla

skimmed thread very quickly and from my understanding I'm in the PoE due to inactivity
seeing a lot of familiar faces here

Michelle you seem super familiar but I can't remember which game I played with you in the past

Where we played and what other username you have?

[Michelle]

I spent 500$ on my hair and love it but none of my friends will compliment me

Rawrrr

You look gorgeous!

[DrWilgy]

I thought and read all night the same old tired thread that I have read way too many times this game.
I came to the conclusion that I feel like I want to trust Wiml bc they helped me get to Limey. I want to trust them bc only crazy players bus their only partner D 1. Is Wiml crazy? idk as this is our first game together.

I have seen it happen recently in a lot of games and I always find it quite silly. I mean their are only 2 why bus?? But you kids play diff than me.

Michelle/Epi I do see what you are getting at but I am scared I am trusting the wrong people. I am meaning this mostly to Epi as I *do* have a hard time reading them and ofc they know it. Michelle less so bc you tend to wear your towniness on your sleeve.

Wigly thanks for your response and I feel ya but the niggle is there and not going away.

Princess - I appreciate you and your thoughts on Epi/Michelle/Wiml. Are you sure enough about your read to hammer? Just a question - I am *not* asking you to do it.

I am guessing everyone is in a similar position.

Now we have added ExLight - welcome btw - I have a personal rule not to vote new players (to me or the site in general).
So you are out of my POE already and unless you do something super wild I do not see it changing, the person you replaced is a personal friend of mine and I do feel like I can trust that they were just busy.

I will literally hammer any hammer lol

But yes.

I don't understand why people are trashing the thread state so much

I just think the consensus PoE is too big. It becomes easier if I force myself to trust you and Wiml, and thus it just seems like it has to be in Epi or Ex. If I'm wrong (and this is where scary gamestate thoughts come from), I do think I'll find myself in an f3 with you and Wiml to which I'll just lose lol.

[DrWilgy]

GTH Wilgy is town.

I refuse your pocket once more. It smells of overly ripe fruit.

You're still in my PoE and my second choice vote today smh.

then your GTH is even more smelly than your pocket and has no meaning.

[Wiml]

Roxy seems extremely different in Felt Mafia to how I've seen her in other games as town and in this game.

Is that a trend?

[DrWilgy]

I spent 500$ on my hair and love it but none of my friends will compliment me

Rawrrr

I don't think I've ever spent more than 70$ on my hair at any point in my life.

[Wiml]

GTH Wilgy is town.

I refuse your pocket once more. It smells of overly ripe fruit.

You're still in my PoE and my second choice vote today smh.

then your GTH is even more smelly than your pocket and has no meaning.

I mean I'm literally choosing between voting you and voting Epi.

There's definitely meaning to me trying to solve you rn even if it's not my primary focus.

[Roxy]

I spent 500$ on my hair and love it but none of my friends will compliment me

Rawrrr

Your hair looks fucking gorgeous!!




Has Epi responded back since he asked you to discuss your vote and you said yes ---- then crickets?

[DrWilgy]

Roxy seems extremely different in Felt Mafia to how I've seen her in other games as town and in this game.

Is that a trend?

Probably? I'm never the first one to TR Roxy, but I can normally be convinced of it based on threadstate and other player's insights.

[Wiml]

I spent 500$ on my hair and love it but none of my friends will compliment me

Rawrrr

I don't think I've ever spent more than 70$ on my hair at any point in my life.

I'm not sure if I've ever spent money on my hair at any point in my life.

[DrWilgy]

GTH Wilgy is town.

I refuse your pocket once more. It smells of overly ripe fruit.

You're still in my PoE and my second choice vote today smh.

then your GTH is even more smelly than your pocket and has no meaning.

I mean I'm literally choosing between voting you and voting Epi.

There's definitely meaning to me trying to solve you rn even if it's not my primary focus.

BOO! SMELLY! BOO!

[DrWilgy]

I spent 500$ on my hair and love it but none of my friends will compliment me

Rawrrr

I don't think I've ever spent more than 70$ on my hair at any point in my life.

I'm not sure if I've ever spent money on my hair at any point in my life.

Wiml over here livin the best life.

[Roxy]

Roxy seems extremely different in Felt Mafia to how I've seen her in other games as town and in this game.

Is that a trend?

Probably? I'm never the first one to TR Roxy, but I can normally be convinced of it based on threadstate and other player's insights.

I agree to this and it's the same for me inre: you lmao <3

[DrWilgy]

Roxy seems extremely different in Felt Mafia to how I've seen her in other games as town and in this game.

Is that a trend?

Probably? I'm never the first one to TR Roxy, but I can normally be convinced of it based on threadstate and other player's insights.

I agree to this and it's the same for me inre: you lmao <3

Hahaha this makes alot of sense actually.

[Roxy]

The most I ever spent on my hair was $27. lmao it was for specialty shampoo/conditioner but then I grew up and realized there was so many other things I could be spending money on like tequila.

[Roxy]

$27. in early 80's dollars....fyi.

[DrWilgy]

Bah, I guess I'll powerwolf now-ish and see if I can find any trends.

[DrWilgy]

$27. in early 80's dollars....fyi.

Ah so about 1,206$ nowadays. Got it.

[Wiml]

I don't think Roxy kills JJJ N3 over me based on a few comments about adding JJJ to her PoE that she made and her saying that he looks bad for not hammering EoD2.

[Roxy]

Bah, I guess I'll powerwolf now-ish and see if I can find any trends.

I did this last night until my eyes crossed. glglgl

[Wiml]

Bah, I guess I'll powerwolf now-ish and see if I can find any trends.

Ty!

[Wiml]

Like I think Roxy genuinely believed that JJJ looked bad for not hammering.

At which point why N2 him over me?

Shrug.

[Wiml]

Please y'all don't let the thread stagnate and die if we flip a villager and I end up getting NKed this phase.

Feels like the thread has been trending that way and it's a concern.

[Wiml]

ewww JJJ did not vote for Quin??

[Michelle]

Like I think Roxy genuinely believed that JJJ looked bad for not hammering.

At which point why N2 him over me?

Shrug.

Did Roxy play a lot with you?

I don't understand the bolded.

[DrWilgy]

Earliest collection of Poll data that I noticed from Michelle (ty for collecting this often btw, it helps immensly):

Abigail 2
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle

Michelle 3
Voters: Abigail, falcon45ca, Wiml

Then another Michelle record around mid d1:

Abigail
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle

falcon45ca
Voters: Lime Coke

Lime Coke
Voters: Wiml, JJJ

Michelle
Voters: Abigail, falcon45ca

?note, it was at this point Wiml was on LC. Pondering as to when LC dropped and any potential relationship to this vote as it could be bus indicative to find and compare the timing of Wiml/JJJ on LC.?

Last Michelle poll I'll use as we're leaving early game but this was mid-late d1:

Abigail
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle, Kate

Epignosis
Voters: falcon45ca

Lime Coke
Voters: Wiml, DrWilgy, JJJ

Michelle
Voters: Abigail

D1 Final:

Abigail
Voters: Michelle, Kate, DrWilgy

DrWilgy
Voters: Quin

Lime Coke
Voters: Epignosis, Wiml, JJJ, Roxy, Abigail, falcon45ca

Wiml
Voters: Lime Coke

D2 Final:

Quin
Voters: Abigail, DrWilgy, Roxy, Kate, Wiml

I get that this isn't going to evolve much, so this'll probably be the only colorize I make. I'll glance it over and think on it.

Only immediate observations are that when I actually look at how the LC wagon came about, it makes it much easier to just trust Wiml, so that's good. Also that Abigail's wagon existed from the asscrack of dawn is interesting but I don't know if it means anything outside of the figure out between Ex and Epi... Solving Abigail also reveals more about Michelle interestingly enough, but I don't think that's worth putting alot of thought into.

[Wiml]

Like I think Roxy genuinely believed that JJJ looked bad for not hammering.

At which point why N2 him over me?

Shrug.

Did Roxy play a lot with you?

I don't understand the bolded.

She seemed to attribute the Lime Coke flip primarily to me and Falcon (for convincing her).

Meanwhile she seemed to have JJJ in her outer PoE and threw shade at him right at the end of D2 for not hammering.

I definitely believe that she thought I looked better from the Lime flip than JJJ did based on her behaviour regardless of her alignment and so I'd expect to be the NK first over JJJ in that case.

Not a point I think is clearing for her but probably in her favour.

[DrWilgy]

Last wolf just has to be in the mid pol when LC was 3/3 with Abigail right?
```
Abigail
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle, Kate
```

[Wiml]

Last wolf just has to be in the mid pol when LC was 3/3 with Abigail right?
```
Abigail
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle, Kate
```

Two of those names also blanket just didn't mention Lime Coke at all by that point in the game which is nagl for both.

[Roxy]

Please y'all don't let the thread stagnate and die if we flip a villager and I end up getting NKed this phase.

Feels like the thread has been trending that way and it's a concern.

This feels strange . I always find it strange when players post this. Like why are you more likely to killed over any of us?

[Wiml]

...and then Falcon dies and he was pushing Epi.

[Roxy]

@Wiml The only other recent wolf game was with Mata, Lucy and I in Lawyers, Guns and Money.

[Wiml]

Please y'all don't let the thread stagnate and die if we flip a villager and I end up getting NKed this phase.

Feels like the thread has been trending that way and it's a concern.

This feels strange . I always find it strange when players post this. Like why are you more likely to killed over any of us?

- I'm very loud and have been driving the majority of solving in the thread this day phase.

- I'm going to be pretty difficulty to miselim even if I'm on the edge of the PoE (especially because any other NK makes it harder for wolves to elim me) and most possible wolves don't necessarily need to miselim me to win.

- I have high confidence that I currently have or will have a game-winning PoE and I plan to push it since my reads only get more accurate as the game continues.

I'm probably not the most likely kill but I think it's reasonable to at least leave a legacy in case I do die.

[Wiml]

@Wiml The only other recent wolf game was with Mata, Lucy and I in Lawyers, Guns and Money.

Alright, ty!

[_ExLight]

$27. in early 80's dollars....fyi.

!!
u could buy a house for that much

[_ExLight]

Who among these was around in D1's EoD?
Roxy, Abigail, Michelle, Kate, Willgy

Wilgy, why did you move your vote onto Abigail?

[Wiml]

Who among these was around in D1's EoD?
Roxy, Abigail, Michelle, Kate, Willgy

Wilgy, why did you move your vote onto Abigail?

Wilgy definitely was, Abigail I think was and the rest were not.