Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End

[Porscha]

Porscha what is your read on me?

like 80% depressed town is my opinion

[Porscha]

[VOTE: Robyn] aubergine

nod

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

How could it be demotivating?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

I thought Rondo was doing just fine today, participation-wise. His opinions are coming through his schtick just fine over here.

He gets it

[Porscha]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

How could it be demotivating?

it's only motivating in that way where it motivates my eyes to glaze over your posts

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

How could it be demotivating?

it's only motivating in that way where it motivates my eyes to glaze over your posts

Wouldn't that be as desired?

I'll drop it if we set up a tie between consensus poe

[Porscha]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

How could it be demotivating?

it's only motivating in that way where it motivates my eyes to glaze over your posts

Wouldn't that be as desired?

I'll drop it if we set up a tie between consensus poe

how do you mean

also why do you keep insisting on doing ties?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

How could it be demotivating?

it's only motivating in that way where it motivates my eyes to glaze over your posts

Wouldn't that be as desired?

I'll drop it if we set up a tie between consensus poe

how do you mean

also why do you keep insisting on doing ties?

Because I am 3p and need to tie for my wincon

Because I am wolf and want to bamboozle town

Because I am town and I think its fun

Feel free to mix and match as you please

[Serhal]

scotty town
Long Con town
DM town

some other names

@Serhal do you like mech?

@tutuu what's your favorite flavour of jam?

@RondoDimBuckle I accidentally left scumchat can you let me back in? Mac is method acting our distancing and won't do it

Mech? Mechanics? Mech suits? MechaStreisand? Sure.

Catching up on reading through the thread. My feeling right now is that Mac is town, and maybe Robyn as well.

I'm feeling less sure about leetic - posts at time seem almost purposefully muddy.

[MacDougall]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

I thought Rondo was doing just fine today, participation-wise. His opinions are coming through his schtick just fine over here.

Please evidence this to me.

[MacDougall]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

how please, how

It's difficult for me to fathom why he'd play this way as mafia.

[MacDougall]

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

How could it be demotivating?

Because I feel like if you are town and actually committing time and energy to playing this way in a game that invariably many other town aren't even bothering to play at all it will be a difficult almost impossible feat to beat a wolf team even playing poorly.

Imagine if Robyn is town with like Scotty/Serhal/Tutuu/LC or something. Not that outlandish a world. How are town supposed to win this game?

[MacDougall]

Like I look at this and think, if I was a wolf and Rondo is town... this game is so easy. I literally only have to say Mac is town, passively object to any modicum of sus he casts against my team (or ignore it) and nod when he pushes a townie.

@robyn a little like how Porscha reacted to my vote on you.

[MacDougall]

And I'm not putting the blame squarely on you Rondo because obviously the people who are phoning this in as town myself included have some blame too, but specifically in the world where you are town you're something of an active participant in the problem which means it's a choice for you whereas for the others I dunno maybe its just Christmas or whatever, and I don't really townread any of them.

Like Abigail is maybe my only actual townread? I dunno. I think it might be pertinent to maintain my townread on DM from D0 still because them not doing much since doesn't erase it. And maybe I accept Pyxxy's claim as at least self resolving.

[MacDougall]

@Serhal talk to me in more detail about your Leetic read.

[MacDougall]

@leetic aside from "Mac is lame" can you actually outline your scumread on me in a way I can actually parse as a reasonable line of town thought? Because reading me as lame equals mafia and maintaining your push on me when 3 people who know me better are saying I'm town feels like clinging to a nonsense push to some extent. I need to at least see that there's more to it.

Also what does the game look like to you in worlds where I'm town?

[MacDougall]

@Porscha explain your read on Leetic please

[Serhal]

@Serhal talk to me in more detail about your Leetic read.

A couple of times he's brought up a specific person or instance of something happening and analyzing it within an inch of its life:

This - well this
THis - well then this
Thisss - Well it's gotta be this

It can be a wolf tactic, putting out so much analysis of something that essentially doesn't say anything in the end. That's why I'm a little sus.

[Porscha]

day 1 I had the initial idea that the ability used on him would likely be a wolf ability but I hadn't said it in thread, so when he brought it up day 2, I found it very agreeable. in hindsight though, after abbi claiming it so *so* openly, it strengthened my read on her and it weakened the argument I could have made for leetic earlier. but he has this sort of ... high energy to his posts that comes off as towny entitlement to me. I haven't seen leetic as a wolf before so I could be getting finagled here, but I'd be lying if I haven't seen towns push mac like this before. I did also consider that why would wolf leetic do all this in thread and not just night kill you instead if the wolves really want you gone, however this stank-slank-gamestate might be the only possible world where he could successfully try to push you and get it for free. i'm still just sort of clinging to my initial town feelings towards him, but I'm open to the possibility he is power

[robyn]

I'm here, I'm queer, let's give a cheer

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm here, I'm queer, let's give a cheer

You wish you were queer, your strange at best

[robyn]

rondo, when are you gonna actually play this game?

[robyn]

town
robyn (town)
falcon (town)
mac (treating him as town d1, dumb to not)
porscha
scotty
long con


null
tutuu
leetic

mafia
pyxxy (town?)

this makes my current poe become
sig (town)
serhal
rondo
pyxxy (town?)
dm
abbie

[RondoDimBuckle]

Like I look at this and think, if I was a wolf and Rondo is town... this game is so easy. I literally only have to say Mac is town, passively object to any modicum of sus he casts against my team (or ignore it) and nod when he pushes a townie.

@robyn a little like how Porscha reacted to my vote on you.

Ive tried to understand what you are trying to say here. Can you expand on what you mean in each point?

[RondoDimBuckle]

rondo, when are you gonna actually play this game?

ive been playing more than you and this whole time

[robyn]

he's automatically town or independent, never mafia

This is dangerous to assume and should not be in play.

In any case, falcon’s play is…town so far.

By his own admission, he is easier to read as town vs mafia as the game goes on

this is a bad post judging by flip, i tr falcon for cheap reasoning and scotty comes in and just has the same read but discredits my reasoning and gives a hesitant townread for actual reasons. something something credit/keeping him from being lock town

also what the fuck was that night kill, falcon of all people

[robyn]

rondo, when are you gonna actually play this game?

ive been playing more than you and this whole time

i've been busy/drunk

you've been shit posting

give a full readslist and do you think mac is scum?

[robyn]

POE

Scotty
Pyxxy
Abigail

I'm quite confident.

this is like lhf central is it not ? lol
I have abbi lower cuz she will get herself out of that spot if she is town me thinks but hasn't

pyxxy pr claim
scotty silenced
abbie is mac's one tr

@MacDougall do you have a new poe without me, something something scotty can still be a wolf but ig your pov has flipped

[RondoDimBuckle]

rondo, when are you gonna actually play this game?

ive been playing more than you and this whole time

i've been busy/drunk

you've been shit posting

give a full readslist and do you think mac is scum?

so?

No I havent been

No

[robyn]

No I havent been

uh yeah, whenever i've checked this forum i've seen nothing but incomprehensible posts by you

[robyn]

rondo, who do you suspect?

[robyn]

I believe its more likely he would forget this as a result of being mafia and it not being a real read but more of a temporary opportunistic vote.

so porscha/scotty unaligned, nice

[robyn]

Porscha calling my solve of Pyxxy/Scotty/Abigail LHF feels like a pretty bad defense and they feel a bit unusual to me so I could definitely have been wrong earlier on that townread.

Porscha/Abigail/Pyxxy or something could be the solve maybe.

abbie your top tr, and pyxxy pr

occam's razor she was just right

but also u being totally wrong and cycling through worldviews is something i tr at this point

[robyn]

Holy shit you’re right.

Also props to you for not outright voting me for that. I legit forgot I responded to Porscha.

Mac probably town

this does not feel like enough justification to tr mac, scotty should know better, what mac pointed out a taiwanese 3rd grader could also point out

[robyn]

scotty is a wolfread aorn

[Porscha]

I believe its more likely he would forget this as a result of being mafia and it not being a real read but more of a temporary opportunistic vote.

so porscha/scotty unaligned, nice

huh? what was the context of this?

[robyn]

mac town

[Long Con]

Rondo is giving his reads, just in an envelope of "they're my mafia partners".

Simplified, the partners are his suspects. Less simplified, just read his posts without the self-referential jokes, and you get his reads.

[robyn]

I believe its more likely he would forget this as a result of being mafia and it not being a real read but more of a temporary opportunistic vote.

so porscha/scotty unaligned, nice

huh? what was the context of this?

mac's expositon on you/scotty's argument and i actually bothered to look at it, i hated scotty's reaction to mac pointing out that scotty was responding to porscha

just feels unaligned to me

[robyn]

Rondo is giving his reads, just in an envelope of "they're my mafia partners".

Simplified, the partners are his suspects. Less simplified, just read his posts without the self-referential jokes, and you get his reads.

as i stated, incomprehensible, and as mac said "encouraging people to not play"

what reads do you have, LC?

[robyn]

scotty can you give me some reads

i don't like know your worldview

oh right, i was suspecting him before being busy

anyway scotty might be a tired wolf after ted lasso, where he described the game as "a grind", thus the lack of effort and worldview. and my "scotty not giving a read might be a towntell" was lacking context

[robyn]

scotty can you give me some reads

i don't like know your worldview

It’s quite myopic, to be fair to views everywhere

Ok hmm. Gonna go down the poll.

Robyn: I remember you’ve posted- perhaps a tad laced with agenda? But it hasn’t really pushed me in any particular direction

Falcon: town right now for having similar reads RE rondo.

LC: might be fine for reasons. But that all depends on if I were blocked or not.

Rondo: could be a jester. Actually tho. Could also be a role that wants to die, and could be any alignment as far as I’m concerned. I will NOT town read him. Would shoot.

sig: perfectly fine as D1 chop as is tradition.

pyxxy: when he pops in, it’s like Adam Sandler with fluorescent shirt, baggy pants and backwards hat, and then leaves as soon as he pops in. I don’t associate that with town pyxxy.

Serhal: rookie, would let him try on ice skates before buying new ones

Tutuu: literally don’t remember anything tutuu has said. Probably not a good sign? Or could be my early onset Alzheimer’s. Scumlean.

Leetic: is a good singer. Would keep the bard around. Townlean for vibes

Mac: since initially finding his suspicion of me opportunistic, I think his takes are unabashedly honest. Not as chaotic as I expect from wolf mac. Townread. Would not kill today. Maybe by day 3 tho I’ll change my tune.

Abbi: I don’t have a lot of town things to say here. Not inquisitive and doesn’t feel comfortable in thread. Still don’t know what bad Abbi looks like. Scumlean.

Porscha: town lean. Not meme posting. Using what remember from a recent champs game where she was yeeted Day 1 for far less to inform my decision here.

DM: don’t remember posting. Not damning, but not exciting.

this lacks the seriousness which i would otherwise expect from town!scotty trying to solve the game. he ends up scumreading the entire poe and hedging the rest

also concerning what's not there, independent thoughts and reads that he'd die for

[robyn]

robyn is probably town, this is the most i've seen it care about the game since forever. robyn redemption arc? izzit a christmas miracle?

lol? i wasn't caring about the game

[Long Con]

Rondo is giving his reads, just in an envelope of "they're my mafia partners".

Simplified, the partners are his suspects. Less simplified, just read his posts without the self-referential jokes, and you get his reads.

as i stated, incomprehensible, and as mac said "encouraging people to not play"

what reads do you have, LC?

I think Mac is probably bad, Rondo is probably Town, Scotty is maybe Town, Abi is a scumlean, leetic/Mac aren't w/w, ummm.... I could vote Porscha or DM. Or pyxxy. I think those are my reads. Two games at once, so the crossover players muddle a bit.

[robyn]

last town game robyn (jay's severance game) it was low wim and got its ass mischopped.

what the fuck, i was one of the most fucking wim-y players and i was leading the post count until town went and fucking jumped me and went straight into a miserable fucking loss because they killed one of the strongest towns in the entire 26 player list d1

[RondoDimBuckle]

If you want to win the game. Vote Mac Pyxxy with me and (Or really Mac / anyone) and then make sure the wagons are tied. If you dont do this I take no responsibility for the outcome and as of this point I am checking out of the game

[RondoDimBuckle]

I would prefer mac pyxxy

[robyn]

I think Mac is probably bad, Rondo is probably Town, Scotty is maybe Town, Abi is a scumlean

so far we have exactly opposite reads

[RondoDimBuckle]

who ever breaks the tie is a wolf

[robyn]

aaaaaaa scotty is my main sr and he was silenced

annoying