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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:36 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:27 pm I think the mafia is Leetic, DarlingMonroe and Pyxxy or something like that.
leetic. hm. i'll let that marinate
Leetic was like Serhal's only scumread and the way they popped I'm as soon as the flip happened to shit on people after doing nothing to prevent it, and after tunneling me all game for the worst reason I've ever seen.

Serhal's actual stated reason for suspecting Leetic was better than it seemed. Read it.

It was like an ittt read. Leetic is reading the game one dimensionally.

Mac is being lame therefore Mac is mafia.

Can you find a nuanced Leetic take?
Im mostly thinking about mech. If leetic is mafia he's a modposter and made up the rest of the stuff. Socially he is acting similarly to how ive seen him act as town. I havent seen him mafia, i dont have a comparison. I don't think he's w/w with abi

(Disclaimer i havent read everything im just checking my pings)

As for serhal no offence to the dude but he seemed kinda new. Decided to holster his vig. Sheeping him doesn't fill me with confidence
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:11 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:46 pm although it sounds like maybe Long Con got feedback that he was attacked? unclear to me
No, that's not true. Mac is the one who says he got attacked, and that he got feedback telling him so.
ty for clarifying, so it was just a single protect but you don’t actually know if it saved ya

and also mac is reflex rb so he doesn’t actually know if he was attacked either afaik
The feedback was clarified after the fact as I was successful in preventing a power being used on me.

Specific wording implies power not kill but it came after I got big mad at LC.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:11 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:34 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:31 pm

I got feedback I was targeted and now it turns out you were bsing about your role.

Why did you claim full cop instead of just the truth?
I wanted the Wolves to try to kill me.
Why would you want them to kill you?
:feb: Because I won a protection for last night by correctly stating to the Host that the Griswold house is the same one as in Hocus Pocus.

Although they were looking for Bewitched, but they accepted my answer because it was also right.
You claimed before that game was played my guy.
That's not relevant? I claimed what I needed to to save Rondo. "Clark Griswold" and "I checked Rondo".
Cmon man its clearly relevant. You hard claimed cop before you had the means to eat the NK so to say you did it in order to do so is a blatant falsity.
Why would I want the Wolves to know the full truth about my role, especially when I may or may not still have single-use powers to employ? I kept things close to the vest, and I don't think that's bad play.

Fuck it, since I predict you'll keep digging at me, my third single-use was a Protect, which I was debating whether to use on myself or Rondo N2, at the time of my claim. Since I won the Protection, I used it on Rondo last night.

That's all the info you are getting about my role, I didn't want to say that much.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
leetic’s advocate:

Do you feel like you kinda hinted the reflex hard enough that scum should have known better than to target you with anything other than death?
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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Like

Leetic is very on the nose; stubborn. He like. Wanted to policy chop people for posting fluff iirc. As town. It could have been his hydra partner idr
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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LC, were u attacked?
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
You can be both roles. Or you can be not Oracle but a mafia teammate might be.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:12 pm Robyn tracks as a comfortable third in a Pyxxy/DM team through the Scotty vote.

@tutuu think on dat
Im gonna need a drink for that but sure. Let me think about that
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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Lotta Leetic defenders crawling out of the trees all of a sudden.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
You can be both roles. Or you can be not Oracle but a mafia teammate might be.
If I'm really the silencer, how come there was no silence D1? My role succeeded, as can be confirmed by the mod post
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:16 pm LC, were u attacked?
I don't know. I think it would be highly unusual to tell a player that they were attacked if it didn't go through, but given my experience with these hosts, I wouldn't rule it out. That said... I don't know if I was attacked. Seems likely. I assumed Rondo or myself being protected is the reason for the no-kill.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:16 pm LC, were u attacked?
Why are you belabouring this. I only got feedback cuz it's my role.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:19 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:16 pm LC, were u attacked?
I don't know. I think it would be highly unusual to tell a player that they were attacked if it didn't go through, but given my experience with these hosts, I wouldn't rule it out. That said... I don't know if I was attacked. Seems likely. I assumed Rondo or myself being protected is the reason for the no-kill.
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:11 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:11 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:46 pm although it sounds like maybe Long Con got feedback that he was attacked? unclear to me
No, that's not true. Mac is the one who says he got attacked, and that he got feedback telling him so.
Only ever said I was targeted.
That's not true. You said "looks like I absorbed the NK".
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:18 pm Lotta Leetic defenders crawling out of the trees all of a sudden.
I just wanted to pose the hypothetical, here I can balance it out

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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
You can be both roles. Or you can be not Oracle but a mafia teammate might be.
If I'm really the silencer, how come there was no silence D1? My role succeeded, as can be confirmed by the mod post
You targeted Mac. Is there a better target for Wolves to silence?
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
You can be both roles. Or you can be not Oracle but a mafia teammate might be.
If I'm really the silencer, how come there was no silence D1? My role succeeded, as can be confirmed by the mod post
Interestingly wifom defenses. Seems like you already have your self defenses lined up?

So you didn't target me then? You seem to be defending silencer accusations without outright denying having targeted me?
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:11 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:11 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:46 pm although it sounds like maybe Long Con got feedback that he was attacked? unclear to me
No, that's not true. Mac is the one who says he got attacked, and that he got feedback telling him so.
Only ever said I was targeted.
That's not true. You said "looks like I absorbed the NK".
I clarified after the fact. And at that time didn't have the further host clarification and also was partially reaction testing and partially spooked by you revealing yourself as a decepticon.
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Is it possible mafia has a like announcement modifying role like they can make the host passively confirm things that aren't true?
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:15 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:11 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:46 pm although it sounds like maybe Long Con got feedback that he was attacked? unclear to me
No, that's not true. Mac is the one who says he got attacked, and that he got feedback telling him so.
ty for clarifying, so it was just a single protect but you don’t actually know if it saved ya

and also mac is reflex rb so he doesn’t actually know if he was attacked either afaik
The feedback was clarified after the fact as I was successful in preventing a power being used on me.

Specific wording implies power not kill but it came after I got big mad at LC.
Just saw this.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation

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tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:12 pm Robyn tracks as a comfortable third in a Pyxxy/DM team through the Scotty vote.

@tutuu think on dat
Im gonna need a drink for that but sure. Let me think about that
why is this "need a drink" worthy?
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:20 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
You can be both roles. Or you can be not Oracle but a mafia teammate might be.
If I'm really the silencer, how come there was no silence D1? My role succeeded, as can be confirmed by the mod post
You targeted Mac. Is there a better target for Wolves to silence?
If I was roleblocked N0, my Oracle ability would have been blocked as well, but it wasn't

Also, why would I try to silence Mac again after it failed? Wouldn't wolf!me find it more fruitful to silence you so you couldn't post any investigative results?
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Probably a dumb thought but
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:19 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:16 pm LC, were u attacked?
Why are you belabouring this. I only got feedback cuz it's my role.
i hate, absolutely hate focusing on mech, but i wanted to know who was the nk. whether it was you or lc/rondo means something. if it was inside them then things are normal and how they should be. if it’s you then that means you were very close to the solve and like mafia weren’t worried about multiple town invest roles. and i thought you claimed that you were targeted for the kill at sod
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm Is it possible mafia has a like announcement modifying role like they can make the host passively confirm things that aren't true?
Modposter is a canon role nationwide.
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pyxxy wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:30 am
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:22 am @pyxxy why are you townreading me still despite me pushing you non stop all game

and why is tutuu a wolf aside from for pushing you?

why
I think because I haven't been as active so I haven't cultivated that sweet sweet malding that I get sometimes when I'm being cased

but also I don't think your case is shit. that's another factor in when I get mad. I'm aware of this being possibly a tell for me e.g. not getting mad as scum but oh well, that's for scum me to fix, not town me

(nice I implied that I'm town now, cleared baybeeeee)

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tutuu felt off when responding to my "flavor" question and has in general not been meeting the high posting energy that I expect from tutuu

tutuu also normally freaks out and tinfoils me. having a confident read on me for ??? reasons, regardless of what the actual read is (yes I'm serious), is sus

this post
tutuu wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:56 pm whatever the world is, this gives me confirmation im wrong on at least one of my townreads. unless the team is exactly scotty pyxxy dm. which mechanically is still possible depending on rondo's role

unless it's that easy, i'm wrong on at least 1 townread. so that'll be hard to sniff out which one

if pyxxy is town this game is probably unwinnable. im not sure if i wanna invest too much energy trying to solve in hypotethical worlds which are realistically unwinnable

i can try for the sport of it

it would mean multiple wolves between porscha robyn mac abigail leetic. (and pyxxy dm and scotty can still fit in there)
feels very un-tutuu way to treat me

"if pyxxy is town this game is probably unwinnable" just comes off very odd and forced to me. tutuu is not someone I associate with saying things are "unwinnable" or being consigned to a certain outcome, or needing a chop. not at least without kneading the dough that in the thread in her head a few times before agreeing with others on the shape of the loaf. so this feels faked to me

no offense re: effort, tutuu, if I'm wrong. holidays and such
Buddy since when do u write more than 5 words in a post?
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:23 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm Is it possible mafia has a like announcement modifying role like they can make the host passively confirm things that aren't true?
Modposter is a canon role nationwide.
Yeah sure I'm just thinking is it plausible here
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm Is it possible mafia has a like announcement modifying role like they can make the host passively confirm things that aren't true?
That's almost bastardish? I vote no to that idea.
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm Is it possible mafia has a like announcement modifying role like they can make the host passively confirm things that aren't true?
"Town has no BTSC" and "One person was found to be town" seem like hyper-specific things to "confirm" if it's all fake
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leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:20 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
You can be both roles. Or you can be not Oracle but a mafia teammate might be.
If I'm really the silencer, how come there was no silence D1? My role succeeded, as can be confirmed by the mod post
You targeted Mac. Is there a better target for Wolves to silence?
If I was roleblocked N0, my Oracle ability would have been blocked as well, but it wasn't

Also, why would I try to silence Mac again after it failed? Wouldn't wolf!me find it more fruitful to silence you so you couldn't post any investigative results?
But you were roleblocked n2 and it worked. So why would you think it'd fail n0 if you were roleblocked?

And who said you tried to silence me the first time?

And LC was targeted with the NK imo.
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:12 pm Robyn tracks as a comfortable third in a Pyxxy/DM team through the Scotty vote.

@tutuu think on dat
Im gonna need a drink for that but sure. Let me think about that
why is this "need a drink" worthy?
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The speed of that double denial
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:23 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm Is it possible mafia has a like announcement modifying role like they can make the host passively confirm things that aren't true?
That's almost bastardish? I vote no to that idea.
It's a very common role. It's just town crier. Hosts don't usually caveat that you can't lie with it but they usually do clarify that it's a cry.
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robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:19 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:16 pm LC, were u attacked?
Why are you belabouring this. I only got feedback cuz it's my role.
i hate, absolutely hate focusing on mech, but i wanted to know who was the nk. whether it was you or lc/rondo means something. if it was inside them then things are normal and how they should be. if it’s you then that means you were very close to the solve and like mafia weren’t worried about multiple town invest roles. and i thought you claimed that you were targeted for the kill at sod
It seems clear now that no one was informed they were attacked, and no one but the Wolves know who they failed to kill. :grin:
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:25 pm The speed of that double denial
He more or less just admitted to targeting me with silence on n0 as well mind you. Which was not previously confirmed.
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:25 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:23 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm Is it possible mafia has a like announcement modifying role like they can make the host passively confirm things that aren't true?
That's almost bastardish? I vote no to that idea.
It's a very common role. It's just town crier. Hosts don't usually caveat that you can't lie with it but they usually do clarify that it's a cry.
I mean the idea that they put in a Town Crier, and then let the Mafia mess with what's true or false, making him a Town Liar.
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:04 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:01 pm I hard claim that my role is exactly as claimed and if you wanna kill me for it you can
Aight well the alternative is that Leetic is the silencer and tried to silence me hence why he's roleblocked because I 100% successfully blocked someone targeting me and refuse to believe anyone actively roleblocked Leetic.
Possible and indeed maybe probable but I targeted tutuu and my feedback heavily implies someone absorbed my block and a silence

Meaning both exist in the game

I believe it was Scotty and his message asking me to target someone tonight was to verify my role

Is there a reason to suspect this is impossible?
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tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:12 pm Robyn tracks as a comfortable third in a Pyxxy/DM team through the Scotty vote.

@tutuu think on dat
Im gonna need a drink for that but sure. Let me think about that
why is this "need a drink" worthy?
They have a lot of posts and i need to put effort and read. I thought i could be lazy and sheep
I'm past this solve mind you so you're operating in the past.
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:24 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:20 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:13 pm Leetic has a passive role that I doubt wolves would roleblock.

I have a reflexive roleblocker.

Leetic was roleblocked.

Nobody was silenced (host confirmed no less).

...

Leetic probably targeted me with silence.

Therefore Leetic is unclaimed silencer who likes silencing townies and is mafia.
If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
You can be both roles. Or you can be not Oracle but a mafia teammate might be.
If I'm really the silencer, how come there was no silence D1? My role succeeded, as can be confirmed by the mod post
You targeted Mac. Is there a better target for Wolves to silence?
If I was roleblocked N0, my Oracle ability would have been blocked as well, but it wasn't

Also, why would I try to silence Mac again after it failed? Wouldn't wolf!me find it more fruitful to silence you so you couldn't post any investigative results?
But you were roleblocked n2 and it worked. So why would you think it'd fail n0 if you were roleblocked?

And who said you tried to silence me the first time?

And LC was targeted with the NK imo.
If I didn't try to silence you, then why was there no silence D1? The only explanation would be me intentionally withholding my shot, but why would I not use such a powerful role as a wolf? Further, my role is 100% confirmable and it would be a mistake to lynch me today when we can get a larger sample size of information.
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Re: Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Day 3

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Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:25 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:23 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm Is it possible mafia has a like announcement modifying role like they can make the host passively confirm things that aren't true?
That's almost bastardish? I vote no to that idea.
It's a very common role. It's just town crier. Hosts don't usually caveat that you can't lie with it but they usually do clarify that it's a cry.
I mean the idea that they put in a Town Crier, and then let the Mafia mess with what's true or false, making him a Town Liar.
Town crier isn't necessarily a village role. It's just the name of the role.
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Is the meaning sort of like the Michael Jackson popcorn gif?
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:26 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:12 pm Robyn tracks as a comfortable third in a Pyxxy/DM team through the Scotty vote.

@tutuu think on dat
Im gonna need a drink for that but sure. Let me think about that
why is this "need a drink" worthy?
They have a lot of posts and i need to put effort and read. I thought i could be lazy and sheep
I'm past this solve mind you so you're operating in the past.
Very well let me thug it out and read then
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:26 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:25 pm The speed of that double denial
He more or less just admitted to targeting me with silence on n0 as well mind you. Which was not previously confirmed.
I just feel like... okay this is dumb I think but I've been thinking on it and every defense seems to be well the mod said blah and I'm wondering if the reason they have these mod baked defenses is a role
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Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:25 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:19 pm
robyn wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:16 pm LC, were u attacked?
Why are you belabouring this. I only got feedback cuz it's my role.
i hate, absolutely hate focusing on mech, but i wanted to know who was the nk. whether it was you or lc/rondo means something. if it was inside them then things are normal and how they should be. if it’s you then that means you were very close to the solve and like mafia weren’t worried about multiple town invest roles. and i thought you claimed that you were targeted for the kill at sod
It seems clear now that no one was informed they were attacked, and no one but the Wolves know who they failed to kill. :grin:
yeah, and if all 3 of you/mac/rondo were protected it’s a toss up but atm i’m gonna consider all of you clear again. i thought that mac kill indicated one/two in you rondo/scotty tbh. cause the NK’s were fuck-y
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leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:24 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:22 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:20 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:17 pm
leetic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 pm

If that's true how was I not CC'd? It can't be that falcon is the Oracle, as the role is mentioned in the host posts after his death
You can be both roles. Or you can be not Oracle but a mafia teammate might be.
If I'm really the silencer, how come there was no silence D1? My role succeeded, as can be confirmed by the mod post
You targeted Mac. Is there a better target for Wolves to silence?
If I was roleblocked N0, my Oracle ability would have been blocked as well, but it wasn't

Also, why would I try to silence Mac again after it failed? Wouldn't wolf!me find it more fruitful to silence you so you couldn't post any investigative results?
But you were roleblocked n2 and it worked. So why would you think it'd fail n0 if you were roleblocked?

And who said you tried to silence me the first time?

And LC was targeted with the NK imo.
If I didn't try to silence you, then why was there no silence D1? The only explanation would be me intentionally withholding my shot, but why would I not use such a powerful role as a wolf? Further, my role is 100% confirmable and it would be a mistake to lynch me today when we can get a larger sample size of information.
So you did try to silence me on n0? That seems to be what you're implying.
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:26 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:25 pm The speed of that double denial
He more or less just admitted to targeting me with silence on n0 as well mind you. Which was not previously confirmed.
That was a response to LC suggesting that the reason there was no silence D1 is because I tried to target you. At this point, I think you're intentionally reading my posts in bad faith.
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Long Con wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:27 pm
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Is the meaning sort of like the Michael Jackson popcorn gif?
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