Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac promise me you'll neve ever lie about the next question I ask you?

Sure

Are you pocketing me?

Not intentionally.

I have been trying to motivate you a fair bit because you're easier for me to read when you have wim.

Covid is making it hard but I do think I've been present for the last 24 hours enough to be.... relatively readable

[MacDougall]

idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?

"I have no idea who is mafia except everyone who suspects me or disagrees with me is a wolf and/or asshole" seems to summarise it.

Cope

I can't. My alcohol abuse has rendered me unable to.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

My fever is up to 103 though so I promise nothing about activity

[leetic]

@leetic have you played and done enough in this game to give reads on every player in the game or no? all your acivity so far has just been at start of days

Holiday season has been quite a bit busy for me, and not being able to meaningfully post D1 didn't help manners. I'm typically the kind of player who likes to push in multiple directions rather than sticking to a hard worldview, and right now I'm more interested in the mechanical information which may clear a few players. I'll try to get a reads list of sorts by the end of the phase though, so feel free to yell at me if that doesn't come to pass.

[MacDougall]

My fever is up to 103 though so I promise nothing about activity

Uh that's not ideal. Hospital.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Good bois use codes.

That's arguably against the spirit of the game though no?

[robyn]

@leetic have you played and done enough in this game to give reads on every player in the game or no? all your acivity so far has just been at start of days

Holiday season has been quite a bit busy for me, and not being able to meaningfully post D1 didn't help manners. I'm typically the kind of player who likes to push in multiple directions rather than sticking to a hard worldview, and right now I'm more interested in the mechanical information which may clear a few players. I'll try to get a reads list of sorts by the end of the phase though, so feel free to yell at me if that doesn't come to pass.

alright, understood

has your time spent with family been good or bad? and do you not drink?

[leetic]

Also

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

That's quite rude.

Tone argument

Nah you're overreacting. I was just suggesting you take a moment to chill and you called me drunk lol. You really do need to chill.

Leetic you intoxicated?

Tu quoque, I know, but still hilarious.

[Long Con]

idk what leetic's actual worldview is, but my thread comprehension is quite low, does anyone?

"I have no idea who is mafia except everyone who suspects me or disagrees with me is a wolf and/or asshole" seems to summarise it.

Cope

I can't. My alcohol abuse has rendered me unable to.

OK, I laughed out loud at that one.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

My fever is up to 103 though so I promise nothing about activity

Uh that's not ideal. Hospital.

Maybe but not yet

[leetic]

@leetic have you played and done enough in this game to give reads on every player in the game or no? all your acivity so far has just been at start of days

Holiday season has been quite a bit busy for me, and not being able to meaningfully post D1 didn't help manners. I'm typically the kind of player who likes to push in multiple directions rather than sticking to a hard worldview, and right now I'm more interested in the mechanical information which may clear a few players. I'll try to get a reads list of sorts by the end of the phase though, so feel free to yell at me if that doesn't come to pass.

alright, understood

has your time spent with family been good or bad? and do you not drink?

It's been alright. I very rarely drink.

[Long Con]

Good bois use codes.

That's arguably against the spirit of the game though no?

Acceptable.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

My hospital limit is 105 degrees cause USA USA USA

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I can not wait to move to the Netherlands

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I don't know. If you can use the fact that the Oracle was roleblocked to try to mislynch the Oracle, maybe you would roleblock the Oracle as a wolf? Furthermore, all this is WIFOM and does not even remotely counter the hard mechanical evidence on my side

Just for the record as an aside are you capable of withstanding accusations in a mafia game without resorting to vitriol and/or spark and/or belittling? Cuz if the answer is no I'll just stop doing it cuz I value my emotional state over the outcome of a mafia game.

Just want to point out you've been hostile and rude to me all game long and I've largely handled it with good faith but ... I can only exercise grace to a point.

If you think blatant bad-faith misinterpretations of my arguments are "nice", then go ahead. I at least was responding to things that you were actually saying

I didn't say nice but also your calling me lame and shit came well beforehand.

I'm literally over it. Like I'm just gonna stop talking to you because your bothering me.

If you think that "lame" is too much for you, maybe you shouldn't be playing mafia. Also wrong "your" again, but I will admit that's being petty

You could always like try listening to people who tell you that you are upsetting them and be a decent human being and stop instead of blaming every person you upset and never looking inwards but that's just my two cents

The self-awareness here is really something

I don't understand the implication as I've actively changed my entire playstyle to try to stop upsetting people

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

This game is hard

[tutuu]

i still think my earlier townread on robyn has merit; they denied it but i think its >rand towny to deny / disagree with a townread. most wolves just smile and nod and accept it. im skimming over their iso, there are some posts that feel a bit hedgy. if they're a wolf it's coz their game is too "clean". but i dont know whos wolf and whos not so i cant determine yet what's "clean" and what not (wrt pushes; stances). i do think we're in a good position and they don't seem demoralized which is a good look. i also think that their posting sprees are towny

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I don't want to be wrong on Porscha

Or Mac...

Blah

[Long Con]

i still think my earlier townread on robyn has merit; they denied it but i think its >rand towny to deny / disagree with a townread. most wolves just smile and nod and accept it. im skimming over their iso, there are some posts that feel a bit hedgy. if they're a wolf it's coz their game is too "clean". but i dont know whos wolf and whos not so i cant determine yet what's "clean" and what not (wrt pushes; stances). i do think we're in a good position and they don't seem demoralized which is a good look. i also think that their posting sprees are towny

Most likely three wolves, in your opinion? Assuming three?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What if I said the team was like LC Robyn Tutuu what would you say my people who are gonna tell me how dumb I am?

[tutuu]

pyxxy is still mafia imo. i dont mind voting porscha coz mac asked me to. but town pyxxy is usually like a gummy bear with no self preservation that just falls over and dies (mischopped). wolf pyxxy is a cold blooded manipulative killer. pyxxy was never a big wagon this game, at least from when i peeped the poll i never seen him go over 2 votes. i think thats wolf indicative for pyxxy specifically (too towny to be town!pyxxy)

[leetic]

i still think my earlier townread on robyn has merit; they denied it but i think its >rand towny to deny / disagree with a townread. most wolves just smile and nod and accept it. im skimming over their iso, there are some posts that feel a bit hedgy. if they're a wolf it's coz their game is too "clean". but i dont know whos wolf and whos not so i cant determine yet what's "clean" and what not (wrt pushes; stances). i do think we're in a good position and they don't seem demoralized which is a good look. i also think that their posting sprees are towny

Most likely three wolves, in your opinion? Assuming three?

Via my role, it's confirmed to be either two or three. Intuitively three seems much more likely but you know the host better

[tutuu]

i still think my earlier townread on robyn has merit; they denied it but i think its >rand towny to deny / disagree with a townread. most wolves just smile and nod and accept it. im skimming over their iso, there are some posts that feel a bit hedgy. if they're a wolf it's coz their game is too "clean". but i dont know whos wolf and whos not so i cant determine yet what's "clean" and what not (wrt pushes; stances). i do think we're in a good position and they don't seem demoralized which is a good look. i also think that their posting sprees are towny

Most likely three wolves, in your opinion? Assuming three?

should be 3 yeah. it was 14 player game right? its 3 wolves for 13 player games and 3 wolves for 15 player mountainous

could be 0-1 independant role in the mix

[Long Con]

An Independent is not out of the question, knowing these hosts.

Numbers-wise, I don't have a host-experience-related answer, but tutuu's numbers are what I believe.

[leetic]

An Independent is not out of the question, knowing these hosts.

Numbers-wise, I don't have a host-experience-related answer, but tutuu's numbers are what I believe.

What kind of independent? SK seems unlikely given night actions

[MacDougall]

Leetic said his Oracle shit implied no 3p iirc.

[tutuu]

Leetic said his Oracle shit implied no 3p iirc.

rondo did too now that i think of it

[Long Con]

An Independent is not out of the question, knowing these hosts.

Numbers-wise, I don't have a host-experience-related answer, but tutuu's numbers are what I believe.

What kind of independent? SK seems unlikely given night actions

Agreed, it would be some sort of survive-till-the-end thing, or some made-up Win Condition like "everyone has to vote you at least once" or whatever.

Leetic said his Oracle shit implied no 3p iirc.

Good.

[MacDougall]

Also

Leetic take a breath and come back when you're brain isn't being flooded with adrenaline.

MacDougall take a breath and come back when your (not you are) brain isn't being flooded with alcohol.

That's quite rude.

Tone argument

Nah you're overreacting. I was just suggesting you take a moment to chill and you called me drunk lol. You really do need to chill.

Leetic you intoxicated?

Tu quoque, I know, but still hilarious.

I was actually genuinely curious cuz I was trying to solve him fwiw. Different contexts as hard as that may be to believe. I was "if this dude is drunk I'm gonna not read into it". He was reacting to my attempt to deescalate by being mean lol.

Anyway Rondo better be right about you or I'm gonna do a big sad sad.

[MacDougall]

Leetic said his Oracle shit implied no 3p iirc.

rondo did too now that i think of it

maybe it was Rondo and not Leetic

[leetic]

Leetic said his Oracle shit implied no 3p iirc.

I don't believe I ever said that? The wording was "baddies", which I guess could include hostile ITPs like SKs? Another question for LC I guess

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm







So






Bored

[leetic]

I'm







So






Bored

Maybe that's 'cause you don't say anything other than that

[Long Con]

I'm







So






Bored

I don't understand the implication as I've actively changed my entire playstyle to try to stop upsetting people

When you makes posts like this, you have failed in your attempt.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I believe I've said quite a bit this game

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Okie dokie I will add not expressing boredom to my list of things I shouldn't do in mafia

[leetic]

Okie dokie I will add not expressing boredom to my list of things I shouldn't do in mafia

Maybe instead of expressing boredom, actually do something to not make us bored?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Okie dokie I will add not expressing boredom to my list of things I shouldn't do in mafia

Maybe instead of expressing boredom, actually do something to not make us bored?

I've done quite a bit today

[leetic]

Okie dokie I will add not expressing boredom to my list of things I shouldn't do in mafia

Maybe instead of expressing boredom, actually do something to not make us bored?

I've done quite a bit today

Remove the word "quite" and it'd be closer to being true

[Long Con]

Okie dokie I will add not expressing boredom to my list of things I shouldn't do in mafia

I'm sorry, maybe it's just me personally, but it annoys the fuck out of me every time.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Don't worry noted

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I've added it to the list

I mean this seriously and not like sarcastic and bitchy

[MacDougall]

Leetic said his Oracle shit implied no 3p iirc.

I don't believe I ever said that? The wording was "baddies", which I guess could include hostile ITPs like SKs? Another question for LC I guess

as I said it could have been rondo

[Porscha]

HO HO HO MERRY - *coughs in covid* Sorry.
Ho ho ho, merry christmas. I come bearing a gift! Perhaps one of the best of all...

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Unfortunately for our boy Leetic, it seems his hostility has come from an evil place... It all makes sense now... That he hath visited MacDougall... and with my all-seeing-eye... did I see him do it...

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Hot

[leetic]

HO HO HO MERRY - *coughs in covid* Sorry.
Ho ho ho, merry christmas. I come bearing a gift! Perhaps one of the best of all...

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Unfortunately for our boy Leetic, it seems his hostility has come from an evil place... It all makes sense now... That he hath visited MacDougall... and with my all-seeing-eye... did I see him do it...

Bullshit [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

[Long Con]

HO HO HO MERRY - *coughs in covid* Sorry.
Ho ho ho, merry christmas. I come bearing a gift! Perhaps one of the best of all...

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Unfortunately for our boy Leetic, it seems his hostility has come from an evil place... It all makes sense now... That he hath visited MacDougall... and with my all-seeing-eye... did I see him do it...

Is that a claim?

[leetic]

My action doesn't even have a target, so how could my target be manipulated even in the event I was redirected?

[Long Con]

My action doesn't even have a target, so how could my target be manipulated even in the event I was redirected?

Well, of course, you would also be accused of lying about your role in this scenario.

[Porscha]

HO HO HO MERRY - *coughs in covid* Sorry.
Ho ho ho, merry christmas. I come bearing a gift! Perhaps one of the best of all...

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Unfortunately for our boy Leetic, it seems his hostility has come from an evil place... It all makes sense now... That he hath visited MacDougall... and with my all-seeing-eye... did I see him do it...

Is that a claim?

Yes I thought that was obvious