Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]

[leetic]

So it's likely that every wolf on my side is dead? We still may have ITPs to deal with, but the remaining wolves should be the priority for now

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

New tunnel engaged

[leetic]

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

New tunnel engaged

OMGUS?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

You've been in my poe

But I'm actually gonna drop a spicy [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Still wanna kill lemon too

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Bleh whatever voting nut is dumb

[VOTE: lemonfairy] aubergine

I'm pretty sure there's one in lemon/leetic

And the porscha voters

I don't super think nutella is town but that's not a today probably

Other than that idk

[Long Con]

Bleh whatever voting nut is dumb

[VOTE: lemonfairy] aubergine

I'm pretty sure there's one in lemon/leetic

And the porscha voters

I don't super think nutella is town but that's not a today probably

Other than that idk

[Long Con]

Just wanted to practice the Vocaroo thing once.

[Long Con]

*practise

[leetic]

Bleh whatever voting nut is dumb

[VOTE: lemonfairy] aubergine

I'm pretty sure there's one in lemon/leetic

And the porscha voters

I don't super think nutella is town but that's not a today probably

Other than that idk

Four wolves have flipped on my side, as opposed to only one on yours. Why are you so obsessed with the Porscha wagon at the expense of actually hunting for wolves?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Bleh whatever voting nut is dumb

[VOTE: lemonfairy] aubergine

I'm pretty sure there's one in lemon/leetic

And the porscha voters

I don't super think nutella is town but that's not a today probably

Other than that idk

Four wolves have flipped on my side, as opposed to only one on yours. Why are you so obsessed with the Porscha wagon at the expense of actually hunting for wolves?

Idk how much clearer I can make it that I absolutely do not care about that or think it matters lol

[nutella]

disappointed to be alive

pleased a maf died overnight

[nutella]

also i get no cred bc i never said anything but i totally had a feeling cape was behind scrappy

somehow didn't expect the 3p flip but it makes sense in retrospect that he was basically actually solving at the end ah well

[Scotty]

[leetic]

also i get no cred bc i never said anything but i totally had a feeling cape was behind scrappy

somehow didn't expect the 3p flip but it makes sense in retrospect that he was basically actually solving at the end ah well

Scrappy was apparently town, so it couldn't be related to the ITP Cape90. It's likely to be someone from my side that's still alive. That, or it really was Caitlin.

[Scotty]

SONG #1:



{CLAIMED}
Winner: leetic (Apathy Mafia)

[leetic]

Bleh whatever voting nut is dumb

[VOTE: lemonfairy] aubergine

I'm pretty sure there's one in lemon/leetic

And the porscha voters

I don't super think nutella is town but that's not a today probably

Other than that idk

Four wolves have flipped on my side, as opposed to only one on yours. Why are you so obsessed with the Porscha wagon at the expense of actually hunting for wolves?

Idk how much clearer I can make it that I absolutely do not care about that or think it matters lol

Yeah, I guess I wouldn't want to bus my teammates if I was in your position.

[nutella]

also i get no cred bc i never said anything but i totally had a feeling cape was behind scrappy

somehow didn't expect the 3p flip but it makes sense in retrospect that he was basically actually solving at the end ah well

Scrappy was apparently town, so it couldn't be related to the ITP Cape90. It's likely to be someone from my side that's still alive. That, or it really was Caitlin.

I mean why'd he die then? Cape had secrets maybe he could control an account that counted for town numbers for some reason idk we don't know his win con

Or I assumed wrong but

[leetic]

also i get no cred bc i never said anything but i totally had a feeling cape was behind scrappy

somehow didn't expect the 3p flip but it makes sense in retrospect that he was basically actually solving at the end ah well

Scrappy was apparently town, so it couldn't be related to the ITP Cape90. It's likely to be someone from my side that's still alive. That, or it really was Caitlin.

I mean why'd he die then? Cape had secrets maybe he could control an account that counted for town numbers for some reason idk we don't know his win con

Or I assumed wrong but

It died because of digging the wrong hole, I believe.

[nutella]

oh I didn't know that was possible

[Lemonfairy]

wow nice kill on Ricochet

there's probably no more wolves from the West side, right?
there could be another 3p though

also didn't expect Cape to be 3p
I was technically right in reading Cape as not mafia

[Lemonfairy]

I listened to the song and have no idea what it is

[Lemonfairy]

I'm thinking DM/Wilgy/Nanook as my top SRs

DM/Nanook on one team
Wilgy on the other

only there's a wrench here because DM and Nanook have just been sitting on my wagon for the last 2 days and I don't think partners would do that
it'd be too obvious

[TonyStarkPrime]

I am exonerated

[Long Con]

SONG #1:

@S~V~S @Scotty

[Long Con]

I am exonerated

Of what?

[Epignosis]

SONG #1:

@Scotty

@S~V~S

Hello, hello, hello, how low

Smells like Don't Starve Mafia.

[Epignosis]

oh I didn't know that was possible

Yeah, the yellow spotted lizard thingy is a Holes reference.

[nutella]

oh I didn't know that was possible

Yeah, the yellow spotted lizard thingy is a Holes reference.

i feel stupid i didn't notice the flavor of his death loool

[nutella]

also whatever the song thing is is unfair when i can't play audio right away

[leetic]

SONG #1:

@S~V~S @Scotty

I'll guess Apathy Mafia

[Long Con]

SONG #1:

@S~V~S @Scotty

I'll guess Apathy Mafia

nice

[TonyStarkPrime]

Bleh whatever voting nut is dumb

[VOTE: lemonfairy] aubergine

I'm pretty sure there's one in lemon/leetic

And the porscha voters

I don't super think nutella is town but that's not a today probably

Other than that idk

Four wolves have flipped on my side, as opposed to only one on yours. Why are you so obsessed with the Porscha wagon at the expense of actually hunting for wolves?

Neon was on our side?

[Epignosis]

also whatever the song thing is is unfair when i can't play audio right away

Make a random guess. Scotty damn near cuts out at the end there, so

Transcript goes something like:

"And I forget just why I taste oh yeah I guess it makes me smile
I found it hard, it's hard to find a well I (never never mind?)"

[Epignosis]

oh I didn't know that was possible

Yeah, the yellow spotted lizard thingy is a Holes reference.

i feel stupid i didn't notice the flavor of his death loool

I FEEL STUPID
AND CONTAGIOUS

[Scotty]

SONG #1:

@S~V~S @Scotty

I'll guess Apathy Mafia

DING DING DING
That is correct! You have won a prize.

[Epignosis]

Damn, I thought of picking that, but couldn't connect the second line to anything.

[Epignosis]

Anyway, did it have to be Ricochet?

It had to be Ricochet.

That's going to be a bitch to get through.

[Epignosis]

DarlingMonroe

Nada re: Ricochet.

[Epignosis]

Delta

of our thread, I feel most confident in LC/Abbi/Sloonei/Ricochet town, Epi/Leetic/TSP to a slightly lesser extent. Leaves question marks around Falcon/Sig. if there's town in either would go back and look at those I'm not as confident.

From the other side of the thread, I think WWA/DrWilgy/MR/Nutella have all seemed fine to me, nothing sure due to being first day back w both threads but that's my gut read for the opposing thread. Off of pure gut read I dont really think DM's reactions today feel wolfy, more in line with what I've skimmed from town games, but without seeing other thread there's only so much I can say on that. The rest have kinda just been white noise, Cape slight town ping but nothing huge.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I'm more comfortable voting within my facility today, as I mentioned earlier, so \o/
glgl o/

That's it on this end.

Could be teammate compatible as easy as it could be a bad take.

Meh.

[Epignosis]

DrWilgy

Nook, MR, Delta I think are good votes.

Lemon probably helps us resolve Nook, so I could vote there, but I'd rather just vote Nook.

MR I'm still most comfortable with voting.

Delta as an option last cycle felt correct and that feeling hasn't changed. This is just gut.

Cape's fine, but I'm starting to question if the wagon is just 'this is fine I guess.'

DM, Epi, Nut, Rico, Sig, WWA all are towny. Maybe I could put Leetic and Sloonei on that list as well, but perhaps get a towny borderline placement.

if you weren't mentioned, it's because my brain is empty and I have no thoughts.

Same shit, different shitter.

[Epignosis]

leetic

A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.

A mildly negative opinion is present here if I squint (albeit it's in relation to the other team, but I don't really care about that).

Ricochet:

- Calls falcon an "enigma" based on N0 posts
- falcon is "zone of concern", above Delta and me; criticizes lack of "depth" in hunting
- updates list, falcon is above sig as well
- By D2, has falcon as third lowest, after Porscha and Delta

A summary- would have preferred commentary.

Spoiler: show

So I'll work my way from the wagons to others, within my capability.

Wagons

Overall, I'd favor a falcon lynch over a Lemon or Monroe one. Grouping bias is a factor, cuz I've played and judged falcon down in West, whereas I know less on why the other two are wolfread or didn't catch all the details from others' cases.

Between Lemon and Monroe, I'd place Monroe within question marks, both in regards to why they've become a D3 wagon and what they've done in response.

So, falcon > Monroe > Lemon

falcon

West - pyxxy connection: none that could have been established, because they interacted with / mentioned each other a total of zero times
West D1-D2 judgement: ended D2 with a low opinion on him and down on my would-vote list; excluding pyxxy connections I considered (Porscha, Delta), he was the lowest ranked de facto. West gameplay resembled current gameplay: brief intervals of engagement, much of which was spent prodding others (with a degree of randomness, never focused) or reactive-toned defending when voted/wagoned
D3 judgement:
-- pretty much the same, tone and grasp of play have not improved.
-- noted him hitting back in rebuttal form at most of his wagoners (Sloonei's characterisations, calling MRadishes opportunistic, bark back at nutella), plus placing three others (leetic, sig, Abigail) within wolf pairings with no reasoning. so pretty much a kind of "you're all bad" howl.
-- parked defense into two main ideas: that the Western nightkills are a frame and that he is towning like mad and we fail to see it. Former boils down to wifom, as leetic also said; latter is not something I can agree with, based on what I've judged. I've read or remember no strong meta read from others on this gameplay, as it stands, being town!falcon indicative
-- meanwhile, withheld to offer townreads (apart from not wanting to vote LC and Epignosis).
-- of his votes, Abigail and Monroe were/are without discernible cause. Monroe isn't even the counterwagon to self-pres on, at the moment

Monroe
D3 judgement: only 3 posts, of which their essence is an aggro response and vote on Epignosis (for their vote / case on them); other reads (Delta ping, wouldn't wagon Lemon) all vague. It doesn't look great, of course, to drop and omgus upon the very first interaction with a player from the other group. But also not the deepest material to make a solid case out of. Hence the question mark status.

Lemon
D3 judgement: I'd structure 3 phases, thus far, of activity.
-- first phase (posts 1-3) in which she mentioned postponing activity and also a statement on the merger being a sensible disorienting moment. I think some wagoned her starting for as little as this and, without proper context if this would classify as a pattern from wolf!lemon (that I can remember), I felt it was undeserved.
-- second phase (pre legacy post), with a first wave of rebuttals (at nutella and Windward). something about wanting to sit more on it. at worst, could display nerviness in face of pressure.
-- third phase (the legacy post): quite a shift from small bites to extensive reads. rebuttal-wise, argues more than the cases on her are not solid or convincing, then also tiers the wagoners based on individual performance. if this alone (or more of this throughout D3), without suss pressure, would have been Lemon's activity, I'd probably read it well. given suss and wagon pressure, I am missing meta info on whether Lemon would as to go steroids, from feeble to opinionated, as wolf. also, a bit funny to have labeled it as "legacy", as if the lynch is a done deal.

tldr: falcon suss (with no prevailing meta info that he towns this way), Monroe who knows (startled by bad form, but tis all so far), lemon no real ping on her elaborate reply

Anyway, dumping the first batch.

Wagoners*

* given the VC at the time of submitting this
NB: not sure the poll reflects the vote chronology as well, but I'll just roll with the names as they appear

falcon

Monroe
-- seems to have parked on falcon just now, despite all their posts being bark back at Epignosis. I suppose it counts as self-pres?
-- just to add to their read, minus point for their recent post aimed at Epignosis, tone still aggro defensive and not the most respectable wording towards Epignosis, either

sig
pyxxy connection: labelled it as unlikely
much of what I've noted down from sig's activity is in fact case-making on falcon, arguments being that falcon is within wolf range and that the Western night kills could show pattern of clean-up in his aid. also admits mindmeld with leetic on the night kills angle. seems fine

Master Radishes
-- for someone from East, therefore info-less on falcon, vote drop was sudden, without hint of inquiry or reading into others' takes and a bit of "nuh-uh" retort to falcon calling it opportunistic (even prodding him to vote back). not ideal elements. later more elaborate, dismissing falcon's "exasperation" as outweighed by poor tone, something I do meld with.
-- had a good impression of him otherwise - active in developing reads and opinionated on enough players and events - but this on its own is a mixed bag

Windward
-- noted her more of a Lemon wagoner for much of D3; falcon switch comes down to disliking falcon's "opportunism" rebuttal at Radishes, it seems. bit cheeky to word it as "happy to join the opportunistic train". later camps reactive attitude, in principle, towards mafia lean. again, had more interest in others, but I can see how the view on falcon might have soured in time and treat the gameplay as wolf-likely
-- activity-wise, I'd rate Windward towny. ample material, not gonna develop full read at this time.

Long Con
pyxxy connection: labelled him sussworthy
-- it is accurate that LC has suss on falcon throughout West period
-- it is also accurate that his waffle on falcon came from trusting Abigail's tone/meta read, true both during West time and during D3 here
-- as far as coming back on falcon wagon, late on seems to make a read - not agreeing with his towning claim, finding his counter-suspicions omgusey. think it's adequate
-- didn't note down any pings from LC today tbh, though overall I find him a bit puzzling. his D3 is probably the better-looking phase of his activity thus far, engaged and opinionated more on the topics, but at times I also he's tagteaming others (much "starting to see this" responses), quite the buddy dynamic with Epignosis, lighthearted banter and focused replies in equal measures. ech, probably wouldn't focus on deciphering this for now

leetic
pyxxy connection: labeled him unlikely
-- pretty much wagons falcon for the nightkill angle; dismisses falcon's defense on that as wifom; don't recall him tackling any other point about falcon
-- really conflicted about leetic overall: was my topwolf pick and vote D1, the aggro-tone was prevalent; Abigail (in West) and Dizzy (in here) mentioned that this is normal leetic; then D2 he shifts into a Pyxxy Scientist (ISO'ing interactions), drop most of the prod and poke tone, a solving attitude I shared and in turned like;
-- now? I'm seeing way less of D2. announced ISOs from West D2, did not deliver; had to defend a bit re: gifting a player who flipped wolf, don't know if that's a topic of suss. informed the merged group of his Pyxxy Science findings, that's fair. couple more reads (Nanook for instance), no definitive wording. still, really slowed down performance. puzzling.

DrWilgy
-- seems to base and bank his falcon vote on lack of townspewing alone. I'd label this a tad narrowing
-- no developed read on his activity atm. word that came to mind, upon quick scroll, was "scrambled". perhaps within expectations.

No more analysis. Bed & sleep.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Ricochet established the falcon suspicion relatively early and voted them later.

This gets the spoiler treatment.

Again, it's summary rather than commentary. I don't know how to shape my opinion of leetic based on discussion of Ricochet. All I can take away from this is a semi-positive opinion of Ricochet based on the falcon treatment, but doesn't move the needle much for me.

[Epignosis]

Lemonfairy

Quick ISOs. This list is alphabetical btw.
Delta - Cheerful and cutesy first impression. Posts have mostly neutral/even tone. Will put them at mid now and change later after I've seen everyone. Could be scum.
Epignosis - Couple of takes. Feels alright.
falcon45ca - Couple of takes. Too many spaces. Feels alright.
leetic - Strong focus on pyxxy wagon and what happened. Feels alright/mid.
Long Con - Likes some posts. Probably first slot I feel OK putting in towns.
☆Princess Abigail☆ - Fighting for wolf pelt means this is probs town Abigail? Can see a few takes from rest of posts. Might be being a bit too generous.
Ricochet - Now that I've seen these wallposts, I've realized how obnoxious mine was. Sorry. ISO feels alright/pretty good.
sig - Not much there. Feels alight/mid.
Sloonei - It's kind of alright. Although the bar is set pretty low at this point. A bit wordy.
TonyStarkPrime - I remember Dyslexicon calling Tony town at least twice (not relevant but thought I'd mention it). After ISOing, feels mid.
Scrappy Doo - Definitely better than whatever Davos is doing. Towny tone. Feels alright.

Ordered list:
Long Con
Ricochet
Princess Abigail

Epignosis
falcon
Sloonei
Scrappy Doo

leetic
Tony
sig

Delta

Something like this.
I skimmed a lot so take it with salt.

Again,

[Epignosis]

Long Con

Great posts, @Ricochet. Lemon could be a Landlord.

Rico, workin' hard out there!

Some cheerleading from LC, but I can hardly blame him.

[Epignosis]

I'm about to write a song.

"We Don't Talk About Rico"

[Epignosis]

Master Radishes

Ah, it feels pretty suffocating to try and solve w/ 7 votes, but Goonies never say die

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Master Radishes
-- for someone from East, therefore info-less on falcon, vote drop was sudden, without hint of inquiry or reading into others' takes and a bit of "nuh-uh" retort to falcon calling it opportunistic (even prodding him to vote back). not ideal elements. later more elaborate, dismissing falcon's "exasperation" as outweighed by poor tone, something I do meld with.
-- had a good impression of him otherwise - active in developing reads and opinionated on enough players and events - but this on its own is a mixed bag

For context, Falc and I go way back, so not entirely info-less in terms of what I'd expect from him. I didn't articulate it because sometimes wordless pressure is the best pressure, but basically I was trusting others who were iffy on Falc from the West thread (and hadn't seen anything from Falc that would lead me to dispute their views). And I was playing with wagons a bit (I think I made it 4 vs Lemon's 5). His reaction to my vote made me actually suspicious of him, though.

Finally a little something of substance.

I have not forgotten that I will need to see how Ricochet treated others with respect to Falcon's death (this is why I was bellyaching due to the face curse shit I'll have to deal with later, and yes, I'm fully aware I called for Ricochet to be smiley cursed all the time. Kiss my ass. )

This is a lengthy explanation to give to a teammate. I'm not ruling it out, but meh.

All the recent votes irk me to degree.

Radishes dropped off falcon for, what, giving him breathing space?
Sloonei is full sheeping (on Epig yet again).

Yes to give him breathing space and also I do have some doubts now.

Here's Rico giving MR shit about falcon (and in the same breath, me and Sloonei - have a mint Rico).

Earlier I thought about faking being haiku restricted again, decided that'd be no fun, and considered faking being emoji restricted just for funsies.

Looks like I might be a prophet...for Rico.

I'm enjoying trying to parse Ricochet's posts.

I love Rico's effort but I don't always know what each emoji means.

Overall I'd slightly argue against Master Radishes being Rico's teammate.

[Epignosis]

Nanook

Porscha

6
29%

Voters: ‪sig, leetic, Ricochet, Seanzie, Epignosis, TonyStarkPrime‬

All of these plus sabi is my current poe

Well sir, so far you've got one right.

[Epignosis]

nutella

As for Monroe, I was gonna ask what the Lime connections might be, but nutella just covered it.

nutella, what are you seeing in just four bitter posts?

see my earlier
point about the delta thing
really unexplained

nutella, why is Sloonei not mafia?

His posts.


Lots of genuine perspective and progression fmpov.

Is Rico wrong or mafia then?

I don't have a well-formed read on Rico tbh. Lean town?

nutella's view reflected my own. I would have needed some convincing to click Ricochet's name myself. Doesn't mean nutella can't be partnered, but again, meh.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook

Porscha

6
29%

Voters: ‪sig, leetic, Ricochet, Seanzie, Epignosis, TonyStarkPrime‬

All of these plus sabi is my current poe

Well sir, so far you've got one right.

Who did I get

[Epignosis]

sig

Earlier I thought about faking being haiku restricted again, decided that'd be no fun, and considered faking being emoji restricted just for funsies.

Looks like I might be a prophet...for Rico.

After shrugging so much tonight, I find I no longer have use of my shoulders.