Fallout New Vegas: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [LEGION CONQUEST]

[Creature]

If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.

Oh yeah

I'd be pretty concerned if I were townreading all the active players unless it was like early game

.... but it IS early game...?

I mean like it is the first half of day 1 or something. Townreading the players who have been posting is okay in earlier pages, but once nearly everyone has posted you need to do the work on finding the wolves who have been posting.

After playing Don't Starve mafia I feel like in Syndicate I am playing against AIs learning mafia

For how long have you been playing Mafia?

Since 2016 on mafiascum, since 2016 on Mafia Universe and you can prob check my join date in this site.

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

You can go inactive for long periods of time on MU and no one cares?

That must be only me then because when I go inactive for a whole day it almost always results in a wagon on me. I wouldn't take much issue with it if it didn't become a pattern where I would get mislynched even when I returned with 50+ posts.

I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Herculean ability to unimpress everyone.

Your pfp gives the mood.

What's pfp?

Profile picture. The image below the username.

[Manny]

Well, saying that does slightly more than saying nothing.

does it? feels like its something that can be pretty easily deduced from the fact that im voting them

[Scotty]

While I am voting Mac, I really don't like how the wagons today have become me/Mac.

Very bad D1 wagons, lemme tell you.

Can we do Lime instead? I'd also consider Scotty, or maybe even Epi.

You’d consider me, eh? Haven’t seen that.

Here’s the thing Seanzie.

I haven’t seen any mention prior of you suspecting me, and the times you were in realtime with me and Lime Coke, you weren’t talking to me. Matter of fact, I find it odd in retrospect that you spent your first few posts just playing I spy with the letters BRAD without actually voting there. It almost feels like you are trying to retroactively making a name stick now that you’re lead wagon

[Creature]

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

Remind me if I’m wrong, but don’t you dislike rolling wolf and slank off with those rolls?

Yeah, I dislike rolling wolf, but I also tend to go inactive as town especially when the game goes through those boring stages where nothing new happens and I can only wait for EOD or something.

[Creature]

I don't get the Lime Coke wolfreads here. Like, I thought he hated wolfing and would just disappear if he randed wolf.

[Scotty]

I’m not a fan of Manny random vote

I’m not either ngl
Very naked. Naked mole rat vote

Dunno if that has bearing on you.

Naked vote. That's a vote without explanation, right?

What do you mean by the last sentence, you don't know if Manny 'naked-voting' sig has any bearing on sig?

It means even tho it’s a weird vote without context that could be suspicious, I’m not sure that means sig is any less Wolfy

[Scotty]

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

Remind me if I’m wrong, but don’t you dislike rolling wolf and slank off with those rolls?

What is this softball crap? You think he's going to roll over for you??

….no? You seem oddly defensive over me asking how he perceives his own past meta

[Long Con]

Well, saying that does slightly more than saying nothing.

does it? feels like its something that can be pretty easily deduced from the fact that im voting them

Well, voting without saying anything means that the reason could be literally anything.

I’m not a fan of Manny random vote

I’m not either ngl
Very naked. Naked mole rat vote

Dunno if that has bearing on you.

Naked vote. That's a vote without explanation, right?

What do you mean by the last sentence, you don't know if Manny 'naked-voting' sig has any bearing on sig?

It means even tho it’s a weird vote without context that could be suspicious, I’m not sure that means sig is any less Wolfy

You're deciding sig's wolfiness based on your opinion of Manny voting for him? Is that connected to your level of suspicion on Manny or something? I don't get that, that doesn't come across as real, like, deduction.

[Long Con]

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

Remind me if I’m wrong, but don’t you dislike rolling wolf and slank off with those rolls?

What is this softball crap? You think he's going to roll over for you??

….no? You seem oddly defensive over me asking how he perceives his own past meta

You thought my post was defensive??

I thought it was more offensive, as in, suspicious of you. I don't believe I'm defending Creature here.

[Scotty]

I don't get the Lime Coke wolfreads here. Like, I thought he hated wolfing and would just disappear if he randed wolf.

Ohhhh right. That was HIS meta. My bad. I got confused.

I should really keep notes for all you fiddlefarts. I do get you and Lime Coke mixed up all the time, I realize. Like Chris Evans and Chris Pine.

Like right now I just realized I was confusing RanMisa and Dunnstral in thread. It’s a problem.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine. Gonna settle here. I’ve got like 13 more posts or so before I cap so I guess I’ll be more picky for rest of day

[Long Con]

I'm going to [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine here and then actually go do the things I said I would, I'm wasting too much valuable time at this moment.

[Scotty]

Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

Remind me if I’m wrong, but don’t you dislike rolling wolf and slank off with those rolls?

What is this softball crap? You think he's going to roll over for you??

….no? You seem oddly defensive over me asking how he perceives his own past meta

You thought my post was defensive??

I thought it was more offensive, as in, suspicious of you. I don't believe I'm defending Creature here.

Are we even looking at the same thing? You spoke for him, like Ariana Grande’s bodyguard asking me to delete an unflattering picture I just took. That’s defensive. And offensive, i guess.

My point is, it’s a legit question and a weird response to latch onto imo

[Manny]

[VOTE: SEANZIE] aubergine. Gonna settle here. I’ve got like 13 more posts or so before I cap so I guess I’ll be more picky for rest of day

isnt day ending in like 5-6 hours?

[Scotty]

I'm going to [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine here and then actually go do the things I said I would, I'm wasting too much valuable time at this moment.

So confused right now but ok

The tag after the vote is wolfier than the vote itself.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: SEANZIE] aubergine. Gonna settle here. I’ve got like 13 more posts or so before I cap so I guess I’ll be more picky for rest of day

isnt day ending in like 5-6 hours?

Yes, however I have lots of shit to do beforehand and I only have a few posts left.

Seanzie is a fine vote based on how he’s come back. Obviously I no longer town read him.

I am unsure about the mac vote only because someone once said max shouldn’t be voted D1 because he’s a very strong town player when he’s town, and we can figure him out when he’s wolf. I don’t see him wolfy here. I think in hindsight he brought up an original point about me making some questionable pushes as a town leader.

Sig is still fine as a vote too. If there’s one thing I’ve learned from playing with sig over the years, when he’s overtly wolfy, he’s usually town, and if he’s making sense and towny in thread, he’s evil. I’m seeing more of the latter here.

Not feeling a Lime Coke or Creature vote either.

Manny is liiiiight town for me, despite others like Michelle saying he’s self conscious and in his head. He’s sorta shruggy and while I don’t know his game, I think it’s fine-looking.

[Michelle]

I read Eod is on 15th feb but I forgot is at 4 am..

[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

If I can't wake up the vote I made to encourage Mac to post it's not well placed.

[Michelle]

VC

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Day 1 elimination
Poll runs till Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Chelsea
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dunnstral
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
LanMisa
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
3
17%
Voters: Creature, Seanzie, Dunnstral
Manny
1
6%
Voters: Chelsea
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Princess Abigail
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
1
6%
Voters: Long Con
Seanzie
6
33%
Voters: falcon45ca, Scotty, LanMisa, Epignosis, MacDougall, Michelle
sig
2
11%
Voters: Manny, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination / Sleep
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote / Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Letting Bethesda ever touch Fallout again (spec)
5
28%
Voters: juliets, JaggedJimmyJay, Justplayingitcool, Thunal33, nutella
Total votes: 18

[sig]

[VOTE: SEANZIE] aubergine. Gonna settle here. I’ve got like 13 more posts or so before I cap so I guess I’ll be more picky for rest of day

isnt day ending in like 5-6 hours?

Yes, however I have lots of shit to do beforehand and I only have a few posts left.

Seanzie is a fine vote based on how he’s come back. Obviously I no longer town read him.

I am unsure about the mac vote only because someone once said max shouldn’t be voted D1 because he’s a very strong town player when he’s town, and we can figure him out when he’s wolf. I don’t see him wolfy here. I think in hindsight he brought up an original point about me making some questionable pushes as a town leader.

Sig is still fine as a vote too. If there’s one thing I’ve learned from playing with sig over the years, when he’s overtly wolfy, he’s usually town, and if he’s making sense and towny in thread, he’s evil. I’m seeing more of the latter here.

Not feeling a Lime Coke or Creature vote either.

Manny is liiiiight town for me, despite others like Michelle saying he’s self conscious and in his head. He’s sorta shruggy and while I don’t know his game, I think it’s fine-looking.

Who says I’m making sense

[sig]

Is there an actual case for the Sean vote or what? Since I’m not seeing any reason for him to be a runaway wagon right now

[sig]

I almost want to vote manny or Mac just to make a counterwagon.

[sig]

My most solid town reads are all on Sean though so I might just join the wagon.

I can’t get any blame if they’re civ though and i want all the credit if they’re mafia

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.

Oh yeah

I'd be pretty concerned if I were townreading all the active players unless it was like early game

[Jackofhearts2005]

The text was about LC’s mom.

Slash I went to have vday lunch with my wife and son and I’m using my time poorly playing Far Cry and doing actual work to hand off what little I do before starting my new job.

@falcon45ca @Scotty @LanMisa @Michelle @Epignosis @MacDougall gimmie the Seanzie case in three sentences or less so I’m either caught up or I can know the case going in and see if it holds up when I’m reading the thread.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also I ain’t gonna ping give more ppl but are there cases on Mac and Sig or are those like a couple ppl happening to land on the same players?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Thanks for the reminder.

Everyone gets a maximum of 100 posts per day phase. This will lift an hour prior to the poll deadline.

Ugh this is gonna be quite painful

but maybe I won't get to 100-post anyway

Just don't wagon me D1 because it's like the hardest day for me to handle

My reads D1 are prob going to be shit, they take some new flips to adjust

I tunnel you every game so I'm gonna try not to do this for once

But I hate this opening... send help

Seems like you have issues with my playstyle, not my actual alignment.

Correct and I'm aware of that issue

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Something something, Brad, something.

Now THIS.

THIS is some towny shit

Unironically agree

What?

It's towny *shrugs*

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

I'm on a date lol

So before your date you came here complaining for inactivity?

Well before my date I was at work

[Jackofhearts2005]

This game has potentially 1/3 of the players as non-town roles

If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.

Using that same 1/3 logic it would really be helpful if we started explaining why we are voting for people, especially as we get near the end of the day. Personally I'm not a fan of the Seanzie wagon as I'm seeing people vote there with little or no reasoning. And people I don't really trust are voting there. I think that makes them less likely to be mafia but same odds for third party - there isn't really a way to filter for that yet.

Or you’re in a really fun day 4/day 5 but that doesn’t really apply here. I’m just sayin. “Maybe we’re all town” is something I say rather often later in a losing game.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

I'm on a date lol

Give your date a smootch and tell em it was from Jack.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Abi, while you’re here and obviously not busy, talk to me about Sig wowee

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Just got to page 6 and I am pretty bored already

I think Michelle, Lime Coke and Princess Abigail are my top townreads.

Chelsea is kinda towny, but not by much.

I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Mac and Seanzie looked the worst.

Maybe I would add Scotty with Chelsea.

He seems towny, but not as obvious as Michelle, Lime Coke and Princess Abigail.

Though, if Princess Abigail is Neon they might be pretty good at faking tone here.

We are one in the same

[Jackofhearts2005]

Epi’s iso is hilarious and gives me no insight into his alignment or Seanzie read.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

While I am voting Mac, I really don't like how the wagons today have become me/Mac.

Very bad D1 wagons, lemme tell you.

Can we do Lime instead? I'd also consider Scotty, or maybe even Epi.

I agree these wagons are baaaaaahd

[Jackofhearts2005]

Michelle is a late voter on Seanzie and says little new about him between the last post of hers I read and voting Seanzie. Implies she’s just removing a bad pressure vote on Mac(?).

K. I’m going through like understandable players first. I guess next is Scotty, then Falcon.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

I'm on a date lol

Give your date a smootch and tell em it was from Jack.

I'd kiss her lots if she wasn't on the other side of the world ;-;

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Abi, while you’re here and obviously not busy, talk to me about Sig wowee

Uh Mac and Seanzie wagons succ so I'm voting the next biggest wagon I don't explicitly town read

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Abi, while you’re here and obviously not busy, talk to me about Sig wowee

Uh Mac and Seanzie wagons succ so I'm voting the next biggest wagon I don't explicitly town read

Do you have any scumreads or nah?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Abi, while you’re here and obviously not busy, talk to me about Sig wowee

Uh Mac and Seanzie wagons succ so I'm voting the next biggest wagon I don't explicitly town read

Do you have any scumreads or nah?

I think I had one post that was just a vote so this is my last post

No I don't really scum read people I just vote whoever is viable that I don't town read

[Manny]

abi is postcapped with that last gif which is behaviour for someone that complained about lack of activity earlier

[Jackofhearts2005]

Falcon iso is uninspiring. His Seanzie vote is weh.

Hate I’ve looked at half the voters and don’t know why this wagon exists.

[Manny]

cant believe abi broke the post-cap
criminal

[Jackofhearts2005]

abi is postcapped with that last gif which is behaviour for someone that complained about lack of activity earlier

Fucking on brand. Protecting your brand is very important as a mafia player.

[Manny]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[Manny]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[Seanzie]

While I am voting Mac, I really don't like how the wagons today have become me/Mac.

Very bad D1 wagons, lemme tell you.

Can we do Lime instead? I'd also consider Scotty, or maybe even Epi.

You’d consider me, eh? Haven’t seen that.

Here’s the thing Seanzie.

I haven’t seen any mention prior of you suspecting me, and the times you were in realtime with me and Lime Coke, you weren’t talking to me. Matter of fact, I find it odd in retrospect that you spent your first few posts just playing I spy with the letters BRAD without actually voting there. It almost feels like you are trying to retroactively making a name stick now that you’re lead wagon

I thought it was pretty clear when I called you out for townreading me based on me said "Brad" in creative ways that I was wary of you, but okay.

Also... I did vote Brad.

It "almost" feels like you're trying to retroactively push me to keep me a wagon.

[Manny]

i dunno how did that post twice but it is what it is, not like im post-capping im heading off till d2 soon

[Long Con]

I'm going to [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine here and then actually go do the things I said I would, I'm wasting too much valuable time at this moment.

So confused right now but ok

The tag after the vote is wolfier than the vote itself.

Ok, let's compare perspectives. From my perspective, I found something that gave me my first real suspicion in the game, and so I voted for you. And you say that's wolfy. I had said almost half an hour earlier the RL stuff I had to do, but then there were people in the thread to talk to and I just hung around longer than I planned. So when I say I'm finally going, that's wolfy too?

What are you seeing?

[VOTE: SEANZIE] aubergine. Gonna settle here. I’ve got like 13 more posts or so before I cap so I guess I’ll be more picky for rest of day

isnt day ending in like 5-6 hours?

Yes, however I have lots of shit to do beforehand and I only have a few posts left.

Seanzie is a fine vote based on how he’s come back. Obviously I no longer town read him.

I am unsure about the mac vote only because someone once said max shouldn’t be voted D1 because he’s a very strong town player when he’s town, and we can figure him out when he’s wolf. I don’t see him wolfy here. I think in hindsight he brought up an original point about me making some questionable pushes as a town leader.

Sig is still fine as a vote too. If there’s one thing I’ve learned from playing with sig over the years, when he’s overtly wolfy, he’s usually town, and if he’s making sense and towny in thread, he’s evil. I’m seeing more of the latter here.

Not feeling a Lime Coke or Creature vote either.

Manny is liiiiight town for me, despite others like Michelle saying he’s self conscious and in his head. He’s sorta shruggy and while I don’t know his game, I think it’s fine-looking.

You JUST double-wolfed me in the previous post, and then didn't list me anywhere in this one?

The text was about LC’s mom.

All good things, I'm sure. Fine lady.

[Seanzie]

Is there an actual case for the Sean vote or what? Since I’m not seeing any reason for him to be a runaway wagon right now

There isn't.

[Long Con]

I don't want to join the Seanzie wagon.