Harry Stephen Keeler [ENDGAME]

[Marmot]

So I'm trying to be super open-minded about S~V~S, knowing that I consistently read her wrong ALWAYS, but why did she say she wasn't going to vote for BF on Day 1 and then did anyway?

You oughtta read this post then.

You might not have the context for everything she says, but it's worth reading.

[Tangrowth]

Ugh, all this BF/Golden/SVS/Bullz/Zomberella/Whoever Else stuff is mind boggling. As it stands to me though, I think BF was probably an overexcited civ who made a bad decision. I don't think a baddie would create such a spectacle around themselves. I don't really see anyone in this conflict as particularly suspicious, just a whole lot of butting heads.

I do think it was a bit odd for Dom to specifically point out "us", but not enough to find him actively suspicious.

What I'm most concerned about is that so any people have already voted with so much time left in the lynch. I'm thinking at least one or two of the voters are trying to avoid responsibility, either by self voting or by jumping on the BF bandwagon.

EBWOP: MM, I don't think anyone is picking on you, since it is noteworthy when people vote for themselves. But since you do this a lot, I'm less inclined to think you bad for it here.

I agree most with this post re: Day 1.

[Tangrowth]

Thanks, MM. To be clear, I don't actually suspect S~V~S right now (I honestly don't know what to think yet), but I can't help but be pinged by something she says practically every game. :P

[Turnip Head]

So I'm trying to be super open-minded about S~V~S, knowing that I consistently read her wrong ALWAYS, but why did she say she wasn't going to vote for BF on Day 1 and then did anyway?

Maybe because that did not happen.

SVS said this on Wed, 6:45 pm:

I am not voting for you now, BF, and am not sure that I even will. It's early, and it's Day One. We are talking about what has caught our eye, and this is what has caught mine.

And then 30+ hours and 8 posts about her suspicions of BF later...

I have a busy day tomorrow, and will be in the middle of D & D when the poll ends. Not 100% sure I will be here tonight, so i am going to vote now, I don't see me changing my mind.

*Votes BF*

I see nothing wrong here.

[Tangrowth]

Thanks, TH. I just was remembering that first post and then saw her vote post and was confused. I'll go back and look at her posts later.

Ugh, all of these posts are just blurring together.

[Turnip Head]

Epi is certainly taking an interesting approach to defending himself. I was thinking of voting MM, but Epi's behavior is giving me pause.

Linki MP: I didn't read into it. I thought Mongoose was joking and Liz seemed to think she meant it.

For the record, Epig's reactions are a result of the item I hold (a bottle), not necessarily true.

Ah, that does make more sense. But I will still consider LC's case against Epi a bit more before deciding where to vote.

LC literally stated his case on Epi and voted for Epi in the same breath. Didn't even wait to hear Epi's response or the responses of others. Does that seem like a genuine case?

[Tangrowth]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

[Turnip Head]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

[Tangrowth]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

I thought catching up on the thread all at once would be most efficient and illuminating, but so far I've just read Day 0 banter, BF's will thing, then stuff I had already read previously, and then a bunch of back and forth among tons of people during Day 1 and none of it is really making any impression on me or sticking whatsoever.

[Turnip Head]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

I thought catching up on the thread all at once would be most efficient and illuminating, but so far I've just read Day 0 banter, BF's will thing, then stuff I had already read previously, and then a bunch of back and forth among tons of people during Day 1 and none of it is really making any impression on me or sticking whatsoever.

Just keep reading dude, things get interesting soon. Stop posting random shit you find along the way though, we've all seen it already, just read and absorb :P

[Marmot]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

I thought catching up on the thread all at once would be most efficient and illuminating, but so far I've just read Day 0 banter, BF's will thing, then stuff I had already read previously, and then a bunch of back and forth among tons of people during Day 1 and none of it is really making any impression on me or sticking whatsoever.

You should start at Night 1 then. There's a lot of interaction there that is still very much at play today and controlling the direction of the game.

[Marmot]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

I thought catching up on the thread all at once would be most efficient and illuminating, but so far I've just read Day 0 banter, BF's will thing, then stuff I had already read previously, and then a bunch of back and forth among tons of people during Day 1 and none of it is really making any impression on me or sticking whatsoever.

Just keep reading dude, things get interesting soon. Stop posting random shit you find along the way though, we've all seen it already, just read and absorb :P

Or combine it into chunks of 5-10 responses at a time.

[Turnip Head]

Golden voted for Metalmarsh.

[Marmot]

I saw that. He is no longer my friend...

[Tangrowth]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

I thought catching up on the thread all at once would be most efficient and illuminating, but so far I've just read Day 0 banter, BF's will thing, then stuff I had already read previously, and then a bunch of back and forth among tons of people during Day 1 and none of it is really making any impression on me or sticking whatsoever.

Just keep reading dude, things get interesting soon. Stop posting random shit you find along the way though, we've all seen it already, just read and absorb :P

I just don't understand why so many people aggressively pursued each other, and yet the Day 1 votes were basically: BF, BF, BF, BF, BF, MM, BF, BF, etc.

I honestly may just randomly vote for a D1 BF voter.

Well, sorry, but I didn't want to build ONE gigantic post that I knew people would ignore anyway; I'm just trying to play differently.

[Turnip Head]

I just don't understand why so many people aggressively pursued each other, and yet the Day 1 votes were basically: BF, BF, BF, BF, BF, MM, BF, BF, etc.

I honestly may just randomly vote for a D1 BF voter.

Well, sorry, but I didn't want to build ONE gigantic post that I knew people would ignore anyway; I'm just trying to play differently.

So... you're not even going to try to comprehend the things that are being discussed today? The things you haven't read?

[Marmot]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

I thought catching up on the thread all at once would be most efficient and illuminating, but so far I've just read Day 0 banter, BF's will thing, then stuff I had already read previously, and then a bunch of back and forth among tons of people during Day 1 and none of it is really making any impression on me or sticking whatsoever.

Just keep reading dude, things get interesting soon. Stop posting random shit you find along the way though, we've all seen it already, just read and absorb :P

I just don't understand why so many people aggressively pursued each other, and yet the Day 1 votes were basically: BF, BF, BF, BF, BF, MM, BF, BF, etc.

I honestly may just randomly vote for a D1 BF voter.

Well, sorry, but I didn't want to build ONE gigantic post that I knew people would ignore anyway; I'm just trying to play differently.

Well whatever. I was hoping you could read it to give us a fresh perspective. I guarantee I'll read and respond to it.

[Tangrowth]

I just don't understand why so many people aggressively pursued each other, and yet the Day 1 votes were basically: BF, BF, BF, BF, BF, MM, BF, BF, etc.

I honestly may just randomly vote for a D1 BF voter.

Well, sorry, but I didn't want to build ONE gigantic post that I knew people would ignore anyway; I'm just trying to play differently.

So... you're not even going to try to comprehend the things that are being discussed today? The things you haven't read?

I don't think I'm going to even make it tonight; I'm incredibly tired. If I get to it tomorrow, great, but otherwise I don't really know what to do at this point.

[Turnip Head]

[Tangrowth]

I thought my desire to play a mafia game would return after a sufficient break of time, but it really hasn't. I'll try again tomorrow I guess, but I have homework I need to get done in the morning and afternoon, and this poll ends at an inconvenient time for me.

Give me whatever face you want, TH, but I just have gained nothing from what reading I have done, and I have absolutely no motivation to continue reading tonight, probably mostly because I'm tired AF.

[DFaraday]

Epi is certainly taking an interesting approach to defending himself. I was thinking of voting MM, but Epi's behavior is giving me pause.

Linki MP: I didn't read into it. I thought Mongoose was joking and Liz seemed to think she meant it.

For the record, Epig's reactions are a result of the item I hold (a bottle), not necessarily true.

Ah, that does make more sense. But I will still consider LC's case against Epi a bit more before deciding where to vote.

LC literally stated his case on Epi and voted for Epi in the same breath. Didn't even wait to hear Epi's response or the responses of others. Does that seem like a genuine case?

It does seem rather shady, and it does lend some credence to the idea that LC is trying to save his teammate MM.

Bah, I need to stop wavering back and forth. I think there's a more solid case for MM, so I'll just go ahead and *vote MM*

[Marmot]

MP, I think TH is bad and you should vote for him.

I also think that Epignosis is bad, Zomba is bad, and SVS and Dom could be bad.

[Turnip Head]

MP, I think TH is bad and you should vote for him.

I also think that Epignosis is bad, Zomba is bad, and SVS and Dom could be bad.

Yeah sure, try to buy the vote of the guy who won't pay attention :P

[Marmot]

Never mind MP. I'm clearly the baddiest of them all.

I'm going ahead and voting for me. Perhaps I can stop wasting my effort on this game.

[Turnip Head]

I'm going ahead and voting for me.

it is just as the prophecy foretold

[LizKeen]

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

I thought catching up on the thread all at once would be most efficient and illuminating, but so far I've just read Day 0 banter, BF's will thing, then stuff I had already read previously, and then a bunch of back and forth among tons of people during Day 1 and none of it is really making any impression on me or sticking whatsoever.

Just keep reading dude, things get interesting soon. Stop posting random shit you find along the way though, we've all seen it already, just read and absorb :P

But didn't you just ask me to do that earlier? When I decided to focus on SVS and leave rabbit, LC and Vomp til later? (I'm going to wait until after the lynch to make that post because it may lead me in new directions) It appears that MP is seeing some of the things I was seeing. MM could be bad, I'm just a little scared to put a vote there since I know (and said in an earlier post) that the mafia was going to go after an easy lynch today. On the other hand I previously said it looked like SVS was trying to avert lynching MM and if she would turn out to be bad then it would seem she's trying to help a teammate. Whichever way MM flips is going to be very telling.

[S~V~S]

I am trying to avert small amounts of votes from accumulating on him. If all or most of us agree to lynch him, I am for that.

[S~V~S]

MP, I think TH is bad and you should vote for him.

I also think that Epignosis is bad, Zomba is bad, and SVS and Dom could be bad.

Lol.

[S~V~S]

I think it would be cool for Ichabod to steal the Will from S~V~S to see if she was telling the truth about the way it reads. If she is, then BF was making some strange assumptions about the wealth of Zombarella. If she's not, then she's Zomba's teammate, who made sure she got the Will by voting first, in order to assuage the public opinion on her teammate.

If Ichabod steals the Will, then a team of five people will be able to better judge S~V~S' position here.

Hrm, Ichabod Chang with the will, interesting idea. I like it.

And she is telling the truth. Yuppers.

[S~V~S]

When I realized people were voting, I checked out the poll and see that LC does NOT still suspect MM? And that several people voted for the Marmot. I did too, and hopefully there is no distractionary ploy.

And ho self voted again. MM that is what got you into this mess. You really should stop it. Srs advice.

[S~V~S]

Sorry for the multiple posts, it is not a distractionary tactic, Liz, I promise. I started catching up to last night ass backwards. Answers in The pretty color

Ugh, okay so after losing all my notes last night I decided to start fresh today and accidentally hit my touchy, touchy computer plug and lost everything AGAIN. LizKeen is not a happy camper. (You would think I would be saving like crazy but nope, just not that smart.) So I decided to just focus on one person because if I lose everything again on 4 people I'm going to seriously LOSE MY MIND.

SVS I've pulled some quotes from you, my comments are underneath each one:

OK, I saw something too :)And then he says "Both" and lauches into his cases against Bullz & TH. He only really addressed his consistent point of addressing all of his posts to Golden when Juliets asked him a direct question.

This was the first thing that struck me; that BF was seriously buddying Golden. Then he brought up that Millionaire thing. The more I have gone over that, the less innocent it seems to me.

I want to hear what Splints thinks of this, as well as Golden. I could be reading more into this than there is. But that was what caught my eye.

You don't seem 100% sold on bf at this point and I'm wondering why Splints is the is the opinion you want most.

Becasue, of the people playing, Splints (and Golden, whom I also asked, not just Splints) know BF the best. Had she been playing at that time, I would have asked Sophie, too.

I am not voting for you now, BF, and am not sure that I even will. It's early, and it's Day One. We are talking about what has caught our eye, and this is what has caught mine.

Still waffling about bf.But then you decide bf is bad and place the first vote on him and you don't seem at all willing to consider he's telling the truth which I find odd since you seem to have a lot of experience.

I waffled over him for almost three days, two days of the three day day one and most of the night. I did not vote for him until I posted fairly extensively about him. I am not saying this is a fact, I did not go back and actually count, but I would bet I made more posts about BF alone than you have made the whole game altogether, much less about any specific topic.

And I was sure he was bad. The way he reacted to initial accusation, dismissively, and, in my (incorrect) opinion, evasively. Had I actually listened to Golden instead of believing he had a version of Buddyig Stockholm Syndrome, I might have backed off. But I might not have, I was pretty sure

Also, I did receive the will. All it says is that if Zomba dies, whoever holds the will will get everything she has. It does NOT say she is wealthy. Just becasue she has a will does not mean she is rich. Normally I would not even post this, but since her name was already out there, I just want to confirm that BF was not lying, but that there is nothing that indicates a specific role holds the will. I thought BF might have been witholding something, but he was not.

You're saying the will didn't say what bf said it did. But I don't know why bf would have said exactly what he said if it had said anything else

No, the rules don't allow you to reproduce a host PM. I paraphrased, since IMO using the same wording is reproduction. I think BF paraphrased as well. And I think Zomba read into what I said as being different, when I thought it was essentially the same. Whoever holds the will gets what Zomba has.

If SVS is a civvie, I feel that events would have unfolded differently. Would she have voted for an "infodropper" early and before everyone else?

This

I did not vote for him for being an infodropper. I voted for him buddying up to Golden. Did you read my posts, or did you just skim them looking for incriminating shit, lol? The way he reacted to that, plus the info thing on top of it pushed me over the edge. But his initial hyperfocus on Golden, and only Golden, led me to think he was bad. I had mentioned my suspicions during Night Zero, before Day one even started, and BF revealed the contents of the will.

You and I consistently understand each other in every game. You don't know me, or my game, at all.

If I were bad, I would not have written that giant post. Pretty much everyone in here who knows my game knows it. I was CONVINCED BF was bad. 100%. Thats why i kept hectoring him, coming back to the thread to rip apart everything he said. You saw me in Film Directors. I can get people lynched without needing to do that mega post thing. But I did it bwcasue I was sure he was bad. I was wrong. But I was sure.

And I was sure he was bad, so I was sure that he was setting up whoever it was who was named in the will. Thats why I brought up the possibility of Oliver Oliver. I thought BF KNEW his name was not the Millionaire. Becasue he was the Millionaires teammate.

That first line doesn't make sense. Do you understand each other or does he not know your game? And, I don't understand how you could be 100% sure someone was bad or why they would so blatantly make it seem so on Day 1?

I corrected that a few posts later. Didn't you see that one?

You and I consistently MISunderstand each other in every game. You don't know me, or my game, at all.

If I were bad, I would not have written that giant post. Pretty much everyone in here who knows my game knows it. I was CONVINCED BF was bad. 100%. Thats why i kept hectoring him, coming back to the thread to rip apart everything he said. You saw me in Film Directors. I can get people lynched without needing to do that mega post thing. But I did it because I was sure he was bad. I was wrong. But I was sure.

And I was sure he was bad, so I was sure that he was setting up whoever it was who was named in the will. Thats why I brought up the possibility of Oliver Oliver. I thought BF KNEW his name was not the Millionaire. Because he was the Millionaires teammate.

Fixed~ misunderstand=/=understand

There is a civvie item stealer, and a Celestial one. And I would agree that Golden was probably silenced.

You suspect me because I suspected BF? Or is there something else?

It's the way you suspected bf I find odd

Can you expound on this? What was odd about it? That I was wrong? You're never wrong in Mafia? I hung my ass over the ledge out there over that becasue I was sure I was right. Wrong bad SVS (and tbh wrong bad ANYBODY) does not go balls to the walls on Day One for someone whose role they don't know who is not personally a threat to them.

Seriously, what about "the way" I suspected him is off to you?

I am going to suggest that no one vote for MM unless we seem to have a majority consensus to do so. Isolate him, as it were. I don't mind keeping him around for a while. I like jokes and banter as much as the next person.

You don't seem to trust MM but you're willing to keep him around for the lolz?

Ha ha ha, I was sniping at him for most of his posts being jokes and for his lack of content, not just in this game, but in his baddie game in general. No I am not willing to keep him around for the lulz, and this is just quibbling, tbh. You took that out of context~ and you know it Certainly the people who initially reacted to my post got what i was putting out.


Also, fingersplints, you just seem to keep floating in and out making brief comments. I know you're busy, but you were far more vocal in the Zelda game when you were civvie. I'd like to get some others players thoughts on you since I don't have a plethora of past history to go on.


Welcome back br and since I forgot earlier welcome DP.

I'm seriously gaining nothing by this.

What are you talking about?

I thought catching up on the thread all at once would be most efficient and illuminating, but so far I've just read Day 0 banter, BF's will thing, then stuff I had already read previously, and then a bunch of back and forth among tons of people during Day 1 and none of it is really making any impression on me or sticking whatsoever.

Just keep reading dude, things get interesting soon. Stop posting random shit you find along the way though, we've all seen it already, just read and absorb :P

But didn't you just ask me to do that earlier? When I decided to focus on SVS and leave rabbit, LC and Vomp til later? (I'm going to wait until after the lynch to make that post because it may lead me in new directions) It appears that MP is seeing some of the things I was seeing. MM could be bad, I'm just a little scared to put a vote there since I know (and said in an earlier post) that the mafia was going to go after an easy lynch today. On the other hand I previously said it looked like SVS was trying to avert lynching MM and if she would turn out to be bad then it would seem she's trying to help a teammate. Whichever way MM flips is going to be very telling.

Damned if I do, damned if i don't with you Liz, eh?

[S~V~S]

LizKeen Said: That first line doesn't make sense. Do you understand each other or does he not know your game? And, I don't understand how you could be 100% sure someone was bad or why they would so blatantly make it seem so on Day 1?

I forgot to answer the second half of this. Who said he blatantly made it seem so? I never did. Lots of civs get lynched by people who are sure they are bad, I know, it has happened to me enough. And you are never sure of yourself? You sound pretty sure now, and it is only Day Two It seems you see a baddie in anything I say. I must be so blatant

I have firm opinions on Day One quite often. I am right sometimes, sometimes I am not. But I am not sure why wishy washy people would even enjoy Mafia.

And NOW I am really done, or I'm gonna miss the bus.

[LizKeen]

I think you you feel as I have some personal agenda or something. I don't, honestly. After losing 2 posts where I had commented on more than just you, I decided I was just going to focus on the first person on my list and deal with the rest later.

I stand corrected on not catching your accidental misquote to mm

:ha ha ha, I was sniping at him for most of his posts being jokes and for his lack of content, not just in this game, but in his baddie game in general. No I am not willing to keep him around for the lulz, and this is just quibbling, tbh. You took that out of context~ and you know it Certainly the people who initially reacted to my post got what i was putting out.

I guess I didn't know, just found it odd.

[S~V~S]

Liz, I have no agenda. You are trying to get me killed, i am tryinf to avoid that. I am trying to protect myself. I am sorry you lost your post, I am sure it made me look horrible

What is your opinion on Metalmarsh? You quoted him in your case against me, yet you also seem to be accusing me of trying to save him.

I think he was also on your list? Are you considering a vote for him?

[fingersplints]

OK, I saw something too :)And then he says "Both" and lauches into his cases against Bullz & TH. He only really addressed his consistent point of addressing all of his posts to Golden when Juliets asked him a direct question.

This was the first thing that struck me; that BF was seriously buddying Golden. Then he brought up that Millionaire thing. The more I have gone over that, the less innocent it seems to me.

I want to hear what Splints thinks of this, as well as Golden. I could be reading more into this than there is. But that was what caught my eye.

You don't seem 100% sold on bf at this point and I'm wondering why Splints is the is the opinion you want most.

I can probably answer this if SVS hasn't already. I know bf very well. I hosted him the first game he ever played. I cohosted with him the first game he ever hosted. I have played a lot of the games he has played with him. And we are friends.

Also, fingersplints, you just seem to keep floating in and out making brief comments. I know you're busy, but you were far more vocal in the Zelda game when you were civvie. I'd like to get some others players thoughts on you since I don't have a plethora of past history to go on.

I generally make brief comments. I have never been a lengthy poster.
If you remember the Zelda game you would know I was far less invested in the beginning of that game as well. 've already pointed this out once this game, but I will say it again. I have a harder time keeping up in larger games with more complicated mechanics. You can choose to believe me if you wish, but loads of people here can probably back this up.

Plus I think MM is obviously bad, so there isn't that much to talk about. People are going in circles about the same things. I need some results before I can figure out how I feel about some of these other people.

Epignosis, would you recommend a lynch for Turnip Head today? Do you think Turnip Head is bad?

Absolutely. Fuck that guy. He needs to go.

In fact, I've been watching him carefully. He's been agreeing with me like Basmati rice. He just says whatever he thinks I want to hear. I would love to see him probed on the Montel show. I would like to see his reaction to learning that he is, in fact, not the father, and then we should take him outside and beat hell out of him for being so evil. Yes, I think Turnip Head is bad.

I'm a little confused by this. You think TH is bad but you voted MM?
or maybe this was sarcastic. Sometimes I miss the jokes

You know what? I'm definitely trying a new approach this game. I think I might already know who I'm going to vote for. Not sold yet though, and I'd rather fully catch up.

Instead of saving all my thoughts for one big long post, I'm going to break up my thoughts, and post them periodically.

Sorry I just thought that was funny because I am trying the opposite approach with this post. I like little posts

Thanks, MM. To be clear, I don't actually suspect S~V~S right now (I honestly don't know what to think yet), but I can't help but be pinged by something she says practically every game. :P

I have been reading this as her civvie game. I do not see a baddie SVS having gone so aggressively after bf day 1.

I am going to go ahead and vote MM now.

[Epignosis]

I'm a little confused by this. You think TH is bad but you voted MM?
or maybe this was sarcastic. Sometimes I miss the jokes

Indeed. Turnip Head is a wicked, wicked soul, and I, as you so accurately observed, have voted MM today. I had no intention of causing any befuddlement, and if I did, I am sorry in the utmost.

[thellama73]

Hey Kids,
I'm in an all day staff meeting today, so expect the Night Post a couple of hours late. I'll do what I can.

[Long Con]

Ok, so I had a plan here. My plan was to try and bolster the BF suspicion a little in order to make it seem like a BF lynch is a possibility. The next step was to watch and see who voted FIRST for BF, my logic being that IF BF has an item that could identify a baddie, the baddies would want to get a hold of it. Even if it's not pointing to The Millionaire, the baddies might want to grab it just because they aren't sure.

So S~V~S has voted for BF now, and she has been one of BF's biggest detractors all along. I'm not so sure if this plan of mine is credible, but I wanted to share it anyways.

In the beginning, I was "after" BF just for the plan, but now I'm actually suspicious of him. And if he's a baddie, then S~V~S deserves no suspicion for being the first voter.

I was feeling the Dom vote, but actually his explanation (that he saw juliets as buddying up to Civs with the "us" comment) makes sense to me.

My other likely vote then, is Metalmarsh, for his self-vote. Still deciding between him and BF right now.

Do people actually believe this?

You need to sharpen your play, boy. That there's a post of truth!

[Long Con]

Epi is certainly taking an interesting approach to defending himself. I was thinking of voting MM, but Epi's behavior is giving me pause.

Linki MP: I didn't read into it. I thought Mongoose was joking and Liz seemed to think she meant it.

For the record, Epig's reactions are a result of the item I hold (a bottle), not necessarily true.

Ah, that does make more sense. But I will still consider LC's case against Epi a bit more before deciding where to vote.

LC literally stated his case on Epi and voted for Epi in the same breath. Didn't even wait to hear Epi's response or the responses of others. Does that seem like a genuine case?

It does seem rather shady, and it does lend some credence to the idea that LC is trying to save his teammate MM.

Bah, I need to stop wavering back and forth. I think there's a more solid case for MM, so I'll just go ahead and *vote MM*

Yeah. 'Cause that's my baddie game.

[Vompatti]

brush your teeth with coal and wait for the results!

[juliets]

I didn't expect to find all these votes for Metalmarsh this morning. I was worried I would have to find someone else to vote for even though I was most suspicious of him, but I think enough people have voted for MM that it's safe for me to vote him. I think he's bad this game.

[Marmot]

I didn't expect to find all these votes for Metalmarsh this morning. I was worried I would have to find someone else to vote for even though I was most suspicious of him, but I think enough people have voted for MM that it's safe for me to vote him. I think he's bad this game.

But here's the problem here, I am not bad.

Anyway, I've changed my mind. I've decided that I will still attempt to prove to the rest of you that TH is bad. I hope at least one person will read it.

[Marmot]

MP, I think TH is bad and you should vote for him.

I also think that Epignosis is bad, Zomba is bad, and SVS and Dom could be bad.

Lol.

But before I do that, I have something to say.

Do you have to be so flippant SVS? I know you and I have had many brutal confrontations in the past, but I am doing my best here to be civil and level-headed. Yet you are falling into your tunnel-vision pattern of "oh, MM is being aggressive, he must be bad", and it is starting to piss me off.

I am going to suggest that no one vote for MM unless we seem to have a majority consensus to do so. Isolate him, as it were. I don't mind keeping him around for a while. I like jokes and banter as much as the next person.

This utter nonsense. Not only is it a silly thing to say as a civilian, but it is just rude and derogatory. "Hey guys, MM might be bad, so let's keep him around for a bit so he can entertain us, like a circus elephant if you will." You are being a grade A asshole.

[S~V~S]

That was not what I meant. That was just saying you don't say much on topic when you are bad, mainly jokes. I didn't want people to vote for you if you were the Millionaire so as not to make you more powerful.

I guess I worded that poorly since you are not the only person to read it that way. I apologize for coming across as rude. It was not my intention, but it is the perception that counts.

[S~V~S]

And the Lol was because of the No U inherent in your suspect list. Again, sorry.

[Sophie]

Ok, its hard for me to xatch up on the latest, when im still catchinup barely on page 13. But from what i understand everyones voting mm cause he has been self voting this game and theres a baddie role that gains power with every self vote? Amirite?

[Sophie]

I meant a baddie power with every vote casted against them

[Marmot]

That was not what I meant. That was just saying you don't say much on topic when you are bad, mainly jokes. I didn't want people to vote for you if you were the Millionaire so as not to make you more powerful.

I guess I worded that poorly since you are not the only person to read it that way. I apologize for coming across as rude. It was not my intention, but it is the perception that counts.

Just so we're clear, have I really been that off-topic this game? I'm pretty sure that is far from the truth. Aggressive, yes. Persistant, yes. Off-topic, Day 1 maybe, but nary an OT post since then.

I get the feeling you aren't reading my posts.



Linki: That is all correct Sophie.

[S~V~S]

I meant a baddie power with every vote casted against them

Almost, but not quite. He gains power from taking votes that don't kill him. He is suspected for trying to draw votes and the pattern of the votes he took dayone.

TH made a pretty good case for it.

[Marmot]

And the Lol was because of the No U inherent in your suspect list. Again, sorry.

No U? Who have I No U'd?

If anything it is a complete reversal. TH didn't voice suspicion of me until I did of him. Same for you. Same for Zomba.