The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 12)

#2351

Well, I'm going to work right now. I'll be back in a few hours, hopefully to see a result!

Good luck, human sacrifices!

#2352

Long Con wrote:This lynch really ran away from a few points. For instance, there's the Bass claim that Roxy was Captain Cold, and that Llama should check her, but then the night passed and Llama didn't trust Bass still. Maybe his role was blocked or deflected somehow, maybe tonight he'll check Roxy. I know he's playing it close to the vest, so it could be that he's protecting Bass by suspecting Bass, just as easily.

There's also Llama's suspicion of Rabbit, which carries some weight because of the Piper's ability (prone to error though it seems to be).

I hope he checks Roxy and picks the letter X tonight. I think that would be fun.

#2353

Now wasn't that day period fun?

Seriously though LC has a few good points to keep in mind.

#2354

I could have switched my vote out of self-preservation, timmer, so just remember that if you live. You owe me one.

#2355

What happened to moving the votes off of MP? Sorry, I had to leave and couldn't be here for the deadline.

#2356

FZ. wrote:What happened to moving the votes off of MP? Sorry, I had to leave and couldn't be here for the deadline.

I'm a people sock.

#2357

If Timmer and TH are bad together, I'm going to scream. Let the best man win, and I really mean that.

linki: I'm sorry about everything. I shouldn't have let things get to me. But I swear, I don't see how differently I would play doing it your way. In a way, I think I'm doing it anyway.

#2358

That was the weirdest catch up I have ever read. What a weird lynch. I think I'm missing some sort of joke or something.

#2359

No worries, FZ., we are definitely cool. Just trying to shake the game up.

#2360

Black Rock wrote:That was the weirdest catch up I have ever read. What a weird lynch. I think I'm missing some sort of joke or something.

The answer is 42.

#2361

Sorry I missed the vote everyone I thought I would be home in time to vote.

#2362

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:That was the weirdest catch up I have ever read. What a weird lynch. I think I'm missing some sort of joke or something.
The answer is 42.

Level 42?

#2363

Black Rock wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:That was the weirdest catch up I have ever read. What a weird lynch. I think I'm missing some sort of joke or something.
The answer is 42.
Level 42?

#2364

I'm very proud of that particular Amiibo nickname since it serves a multifold purpose:

1) It satisfied the minimum qualifications of being both music-themed and starting with the same letter as the character name (Lucario).
2) Lucario is a Pokemon and since they are always some numeric level from 1 to 100, I thought the name was appropriate.
3) 42 is the answer to the meaning of life, the universe, and everything.

Oh, and it won both Season 1 and Tournament 1. A reflection of its name's multifold badassery.

#2365

Here is the most appropriate Rearranger Signal I could find:

Come forth from the shadows, mighty host!

#2366

I am most interested to see the result.

#2367

#2368

Black Rock wrote:I am most interested to see the result.

#2369

If I somehow survive this, then thanks to those of you who believed in me.

See you folks post-reveal (for real this time).

#2370

So can we get some srs talk out of you next day? Or am I going to have to kick your ass.

#2371

Devin the Omniscient wrote:So can we get some srs talk out of you next day? Or am I going to have to kick your ass.

Not until you make another multi-quote post.

#2372

Lolz. That may not happen for several days.

#2373

Day 5 - Trial By Harvey

The crowd of allies in Central City had grown divided once more. Police surrounded the scene as MovingPictures and Timmer engaged in a classic standoff.

Their pistols were pointed directly at one another. Neither so much as blinked for 5 minutes straight. The surrounding street was so quiet, those gathered there could hear a coin drop...

...and they did.

A shot rang out and a MovingPictures's firearm dropped to the pavement with a clunk. Neither gun was smoking.

The crowd looked around and only saw a garishly dressed figure duck down an alleyway. By the time the nearest officer had turned the corner of the alley, the man had vanished.

Yes, Harvey Dent had enjoyed his visit to Central City. He had picked up some important documents from an all too cooperative local villain for his employer back home in Gotham, and would be offering some legal advice when that associate hit the stand a month from today. But Two-Face also got to indulge in his favorite past-time: Not just acting as a lawyer, but as judge as well.

MovingPictures has been lynched. He was the Rainbow Raider.

It is now Night 5. You have 24 hours to send me PMs.

#2374

EVEN I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN ME!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the game again, MR. It was a pleasure to replace in. And thanks to the other players actually playing this game. It was a good time.

#2375

Power went out in a storm, so I'll be working from my Nook until I get up to work.

Thank you for subbing in, MP! I was glad to have you!

#2376

Sigh...

#2377

Pointless lynch. You did play a colorful game, MP. However brief.

#2378

I don't understand. Was he trying to say he wasn't playing for the civvie side? Did he have an unknown win condition? I just really don't understand his game play with such a role. He had such a good role and all he had to do was survive right? Why did he play it so self-destructive?

#2379

Black Rock wrote:I don't understand. Was he trying to say he wasn't playing for the civvie side? Did he have an unknown win condition? I just really don't understand his game play with such a role. He had such a good role and all he had to do was survive right? Why did he play it so self-destructive?

I still think he was mind-controlled.

His being distraught doesn't make sense to me otherwise.

#2380

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I don't understand. Was he trying to say he wasn't playing for the civvie side? Did he have an unknown win condition? I just really don't understand his game play with such a role. He had such a good role and all he had to do was survive right? Why did he play it so self-destructive?
I still think he was mind-controlled.

His being distraught doesn't make sense to me otherwise.

My mind control was way different. I'm glad I didn't get his mind control.

#2381

Being a close personal friend of Alex, it makes total sense to me. He was trying to explain his view on how the different factions should be viewed, and for whatever reason no one was having it no matter how much effort he put into his explanations. That set him off. He was super frustrated that no one would throw him a bone and consider his point of view worth while. I just wish I could have come into the thread sooner to express that I understood what he was trying to say. I might have been able to save him from imploding.

Linki: I'm 99% positive he wasn't mind controlled. That was pure socky madness.

#2382

Imagine if you can mind control a player to say whatever you want.

As the New Rogues, it is you against the world (as I've said before). So, since you have a member in your group who can mind control, why not mind control another player to try and split the factions apart and try to cause dissension in the rest of the ranks. And forcing someone to make the argument that the Independent Rogues could be sympathetic to the New Rogue cause isn't a bad way to do it.

Also, MP self-voted, and he is a strong detractor of self-voting. The mind-controller can also control votes.

Also, I don't see an indication that any other player was mind-controlled in his stead.

#2383

Jeez, guys, you really want me dead. Even with Alex going mental, you still almost lynched me. I know in some respects my play has been shite in this game, but dudes.... and llama, wtf?

#2384

timmer wrote:Jeez, guys, you really want me dead. Even with Alex going mental, you still almost lynched me. I know in some respects my play has been shite in this game, but dudes.... and llama, wtf?

Die you bastard.

#2385

RIP MP, that totally sucks. You could have been the great unifier, I can't believe you would be pushing for an LMS-style game when you had the role that was the most Civvie-aligned Indy. I'm with MM, I still say he was mind-controlled. Especially leaving his vote on himself in the end.

#2386

I don't know. I do know he was upset about what happened in the thread in a real way, not a fake role playing way. That is really all I am comfortable with saying. Although that could be a separate issue from being controlled, I suppose. Like he was controlled to push a certain viewpoint and vote a certain way, but that did not mean he would not be getting upset by reactions to him?

I dunno. He also denied it very vehemently. People who have been controlled, is this an OK thing to do when controlled? Like are you told, "First rule of being controlled is no talking about being controlled?" There was no wink wink EXCEPT that part where he said he did not want to die, and that he loved this game. THAT part sounded pretty much...like a cry for help?

I can talk myself in and out of this one.

#2387

S~V~S wrote:I don't know. I do know he was upset about what happened in the thread in a real way, not a fake role playing way. That is really all I am comfortable with saying. Although that could be a separate issue from being controlled, I suppose. Like he was controlled to push a certain viewpoint and vote a certain way, but that did not mean he would not be getting upset by reactions to him?

I dunno. He also denied it very vehemently. People who have been controlled, is this an OK thing to do when controlled? Like are you told, "First rule of being controlled is no talking about being controlled?" There was no wink wink EXCEPT that part where he said he did not want to die, and that he loved this game. THAT part sounded pretty much...like a cry for help?

I can talk myself in and out of this one.

Well, everyone didn't know it was mind control until rabbit said so, which I believe was Night 4, maybe Day 4. I didn't know how much we were allowed to discuss it, so I just followed his lead.

And I believe the general rule of thumb when being cursed is you are not allowed to say so, and that mind control is equivalent enough to a curse to look at it the same way. Actually, I don't even know if it's against the actual rules, but it seems to be bad form to discuss it while being under influence.

#2388

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:LC, that's assuming that New Rogues establish BTSC. I firmly believe they can only do so via the map, otherwise would be OP. But fair enough.

And stubborn is my middle name. :P
I also thought that MP brought up a good point here. It may or may not be true, but the idea sounds reasonable to me.

And you know who had BTSC early on in the game via the map? timmer, TH, and DH (DH was killed by Captain Cold too).

What's your point? Timmer, DH, and I all fell into the same square on Day 2, and we had BTSC, and DH died, and... what's your point? I haven't had BTSC with Timmer since then. I haven't had BTSC with anyone since then except briefly with DH again before he died. None of that means anything. Other players have had BTSC too. You're drawing connections between things that aren't at all related.

I feel good about Timmer because of the contributions he made in BTSC, and because of his contributions in the thread. LC, I didn't feel like Timmer was trying to hog all the credit for the Bass lynch, he was just pointing out that logically his contributions don't make much sense from a New Rogue angle. And I'm sure he's capable of FEB'ing us, but that doesn't mean that he is. If he is, I don't see it. He's one of a few players that I'd say is actually trying to help at this point. It also looks like the Top is trying to frame him, so there's that to consider too.

Rest in peace MP, you crazy bastard.

#2389

How is timmer trying to help? (serious question here)

I did a brief lookover his posts from today, and couldn't find the name of a single player that he wants to lynch. On the contrary, he has a laundry list of names he does not want to lynch (SVS, rabbit, llama, FZ, LC, Sophie). And you know what's funny about that...

timmer wrote:Everyone, let me just start by saying I'm sorry for how shit I've been playing. It's been a stressful few days and I've let it make my play sloppy and cheap.

That said, MP, I think this IS a faction game, but it is NOT an LMS game. It won't ever get to be a true LMS game, i don't think. And you're right, wrapping oneself in the civvie flag is kind of pointless (and again,kind of cheap on my part... I get that way when I'm distracted, I'm well aware).

It all comes down to who is lying to the thread, and that's where my current paralysis comes from. I have lost trust in the things i thought I knew, and as such I don't know what to think.

My thoughts are going out to your niece, SVS, that sounds like a horrible time over there

He claims to have lost trust in things he thought he knew, and doesn't know what to think.

But still, he followed that post up with a bunch of names of players he trusts, or does not want to lynch, over a a series of posts.

The only player he showed any suspicion towards was BR (a No U suspicion). timmer did not vote for BR at all during the day.

#2390

Well it's hard to be helpful when you spend all day getting accused of mind controlling people and receiving votes. He was on the defensive all day. And frankly not many people spoke up with suspicions today because this lynch got derailed by whatever was going on with MP.

I would think though, if Timmer were bad, he would have spent less time talking about who he didn't want to lynch and more time talking about who we should lynch instead of him.

#2391

Turnip Head wrote:Well it's hard to be helpful when you spend all day getting accused of mind controlling people and receiving votes. He was on the defensive all day. And frankly not many people spoke up with suspicions today because this lynch got derailed by whatever was going on with MP.

I would think though, if Timmer were bad, he would have spent less time talking about who he didn't want to lynch and more time talking about who we should lynch instead of him.

Is he trying to be helpful or not though?

#2392

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Well it's hard to be helpful when you spend all day getting accused of mind controlling people and receiving votes. He was on the defensive all day. And frankly not many people spoke up with suspicions today because this lynch got derailed by whatever was going on with MP.

I would think though, if Timmer were bad, he would have spent less time talking about who he didn't want to lynch and more time talking about who we should lynch instead of him.
Is he trying to be helpful or not though?

I feel like I've already answered this... I think he's trying to be helpful. You're looking solely at his contributions today and asking me if those contributions are helpful... I'm looking at the entirety of his play because today is just one piece of the Timmer puzzle.

It feels like you're retroactively trying to highlight his actions today, in a vacuum, as bad, after the vote is over. Did you give a reason for voting Timmer today? Did you feel during Day 5 that Timmer has not been helpful this game?

#2393

Sophie, can you explain your thinking on your MP vote yesterday, and your thoughts on Timmer? Is it still BOTD, or is it more concrete at this point?

#2394

For whomever asked yesterday about my thoughts on Sophie, it was TH I believe, I had some very distinct thoughts on her. She felt floundery but civ, based on both things in and out of thread. But her vote yesterday was disturbing to me. Which is why I asked her that question ^^ (Note to self: Sherry, learn to think before hitting "Submit", you may have more to say) because I would have expected her to have done something different on a short read of the thread.

And LC, I read your whole post & your whole case. It was lovely

but it was still wrong

You can craft an amazing post that takes you weeks to write, but if it says what yours did, it would be wrong, and that is the salient point as far as I am concerned. I can do a point by point for you later (overslept this AM, only tiny online time before work, and now that I am driving again, no bus leisure time, either, anymore)

I am assuming Bass was silenced yesterday since I know he was on site and did not post here. I look forward to hearing his take on this lynch. TH is defending Timmer verging on Cap't Obvious territory, which gives me some pause. Don't know why he would do such a thing while bad, but based on my worldview of this game, can't see how else that would work. I have detectives in mind, I have a CC/HW in mind. so... urh.

#2395

What a waste of a day

I guess a lot of us are to blame for this.

S~V~S wrote:For whomever asked yesterday about my thoughts on Sophie, it was TH I believe, I had some very distinct thoughts on her. She felt floundery but civ, based on both things in and out of thread. But her vote yesterday was disturbing to me. Which is why I asked her that question ^^ (Note to self: Sherry, learn to think before hitting "Submit", you may have more to say) because I would have expected her to have done something different on a short read of the thread.

And LC, I read your whole post & your whole case. It was lovely but it was still wrong

You can craft an amazing post that takes you weeks to write, but if it says what yours did, it would be wrong, and that is the salient point as far as I am concerned. I can do a point by point for you later (overslept this AM, only tiny online time before work, and now that I am driving again, no bus leisure time, either, anymore)

I am assuming Bass was silenced yesterday since I know he was on site and did not post here. I look forward to hearing his take on this lynch. TH is defending Timmer verging on Cap't Obvious territory, which gives me some pause. Don't know why he would do such a thing while bad, but based on my worldview of this game, can't see how else that would work. I have detectives in mind, I have a CC/HW in mind. so... urh.

They can't be CC and HW because that would mean they'd know Roxy wasn't CC and would therefore go after Bass with no hesitation. If they are detectives, I assume llama would know something about it, unless there is no BTSC whatsoever.
So either they're bad, or TH thought, like me, that Timmer was being framed. I'm just not sure any more.

#2396

S~V~S wrote:And LC, I read your whole post & your whole case. It was lovely but it was still wrong

My post was a couple of things. It was an explanation of a suspicion and a compliment. It was a promise. It was a defense. At the bottom, it was a humourous observation.

What it was not was a case.

I'm VERY interested in how you read this post and say that it's just "wrong", and how you could call it a case.

You didn't read it, you're just paying it lip service. You obviously have something going on besides actually reading the thread completely, but to react so dishonestly is seriously suspicious. You could have said "LC, I've been so busy, I need to go back and really read your post", but you didn't. I was actually not too invested in the idea that you are the Top, but I'm pretty damn sure now that you are bad. Like the lynch of Bass 1.0, behaviour is very revealing, and you are undeniably trying to be deceptive with me.

Here's my post, for the record.

Long Con wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Because I'm acting like a total yutz this game, and people who know better say I'm the baddie? I think I did one good thing this game, I will find out end game (maybe 2) but for the most part, i have sucked. Timmer has been poking at me since he subbed in, LC has been insinuating in my direction (and insinuating LC is bad LC, imo) most of the game, and then MP comes in and says things that he knows will get my Irish up, and basically says, "This is how *I* am interpreting the game. If you don't like it, lynch me". Awesome.
I think you're looking at my suspicion of you in the entirely wrong way. It is nothing but a compliment that I suspect you first of this, I think you're clever enough to put a plan like this in motion, that's all. Between that, and the fact that the "participants" in this plot are all people you are close to as longtime Mafia friends, I think you owe me at least an acknowledgement that it's not unusual that I am looking in your direction.

I also think it was an overreaction to a temporary vote. But I'mma let that slide because you have had a stressful weekend. I promise I never have, and never will, attempt to use your life complications as a Mafia strategy - I swear the timing of it was unrelated.

I just want to address "insinuating in your direction" as well. I'm trying to think of what you mean by that. I can only recall mentioning you once before, when I was suspecting Roxy, Bass 2.0, Aces, and you of some nefarious dealings. Well, it turns out Aces was pretty bad, Roxy and Bass are possibly good, possibly not. I don't think that I was insinuating in your direction, you were just someone who was part of a group of people that had sketchy-looking stuff going on (namely, Roxy's vouch for Aces, Bass' vouches, etc). I'm fine with "insinuating LC is bad LC", whether that's true or not, because I don't think I've been particularly "insinuating" in this game.

We did not get a role reveal on Roxy. I would prefer to have some control over my contribution to the game in this way. I would rather by lynched today than NKed tonight. So then even though I have sucked seriously as a civvie (yes, MP, I said the "C" word), my death will have some value this way. If someone I actually suspect looks to be lynched, I will consider changing my vote that way.
Dude, this is so bullz' shtick. Come on, you know this.

#2397

Rainbow rezz?

#2398

MovingPictures07 wrote:Rainbow rezz?

I enjoyed your use of the Colourizer at the end there.

#2399

Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Rainbow rezz?
I enjoyed your use of the Colourizer at the end there.

Damn straight. I deserve a rezz.

#2400

S~V~S wrote:TH is defending Timmer verging on Cap't Obvious territory, which gives me some pause. Don't know why he would do such a thing while bad, but based on my worldview of this game, can't see how else that would work. I have detectives in mind, I have a CC/HW in mind. so... urh.

No Cap't Obvious'ing going on here, SVS. It only looks like that because I was repeatedly asked about my stance on Timmer. I know nothing about his role or anyone else's. You worldview doesn't allow you to see how else I could be defending Timmer without knowing anything about his role? This coming from the person who defended Bass 1.0?

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