Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Epignosis]

Second Mafioso

Chapter V

1And there was a man named Lazarus who shriveled and died because thrice he denied the Lord. 2 When Lazarus died, the people of Sin-d’kaht saw Esther as a Heathen, and verily did they seek to stone her. 3 And they did so, outside the city gates, and when she was dead, they beheld a tattoo on her arm. 4 It said, “The nations shall fear Nebuchadnezzar.”

[Gunther]

Oh no! Why did Laz die? But on the other side woohoo! We got us a heathen!!!! It just feels a little less joyful that Laz went too. RIP Laz.

[Kent Brockman]

Boo

[Joe Who?]

Well, I dunno about you guys, but I'm looking pretty FABULOUS right now. Pretty. Damn. Fabulous. Good catch, Lot. RIP Lazarus.

Well played, Esther and Pilate. Well played. Can't find his partner, my ass. Rahab out for now.

[Snapshot]

Looks like Jacob was Joshua.

[Snapshot]

Also, well played Esther. You really did have my trust for a very long length of time, but a read back last night made you look very bad. I'm glad I did it.

So now we just need to find our Judas. I really think we need to make sure we look at everyone carefully. I'm going to put as much legwork as I can in the next 24 hours since I suspect my neck will be on the block tonight.

[Snapshot]

I, for one, am open to hearing what Rahab has to say. She would be the easy vote tomorrow, but it doesn't necessarily make her the correct one. Let's be careful.

[Quokka]

I promise I am not going to vote her straight out of the gate. But I highly doubtmy mind will be changed. I'll listen though.

[Quokka]

Looks like Jacob was Joshua.

Not the first time I've heard that in the last twenty four hours.

[Snapshot]

Why Lot is not Judas:

Did I not just fight hard for the successful lynches of Deborah and Esther?

Why Bathsheba is not Judas:

Bathsheba's vote record since she was replaced has been essentially impeccable.

Why Samuel is not Judas:

Samuel was the decision point in that vote. If Samuel voted Pilate, Rahab would have voted Pilate. The only way I could see Samuel as bad is if Pilate is also bad, which doesn't make any sense (and would mean we were losing anyway).

My conclusion from very basic analysis, but I think it is conclusive analysis: Judas must be either Rahab or Pilate.

[Snapshot]

Also in favour of Bathsheba - there was an empty sock at times when Judas was making kills. I am absolutely positive Bathsheba is not Judas.

[Nicol Bolas]

That's a relief, great job on the Esther lynch!

I don't know if we need to kill Judas in order to win, but I'm not him. If tomorrow's lynch is between Rahab and me, then it's no secret who I'll be voting for. Let's hope everyone has their top game on tomorrow - even you, Rahab, I hope you will post eloquently and concisely in the face of possible doom.

[Snapshot]

I'm not sure how much more participation I'll get done before the NK, but I'm pretty sure that should I be around tomorrow my vote is about who is more persuasive out of Rahab and Pilate. I hope I'm still around, because I've really loved playing this game and would love to see it through to the end.

[Gunther]

I don't really have much to say before the NK except I have an open mind to Rahab and Pilate. What they have to say today and tomorrow will help me with my decision.

[Joe Who?]

I will be traveling and paying a visit to some very special people for the next few hours, but I shall return for this madness in due time.

That's a relief, great job on the Esther lynch!

I don't know if we need to kill Judas in order to win, but I'm not him. If tomorrow's lynch is between Rahab and me, then it's no secret who I'll be voting for. Let's hope everyone has their top game on tomorrow - even you, Rahab, I hope you will post eloquently and concisely in the face of possible doom.

And to you, sir. :necessaryduelhandshakesmiley:

[Prisoner 509378]

Dear Living Players,

I've got good news and bad news. The good news is that, since my last letter, we have experienced a major breakthrough as a group. We welcomed Esther into our little corner of eternity with the usual dance party / pillow fight. We danced, thrashed, and pelted each other with fluffy pillows while just one song looped over and over for more than an hour:



Somewhere around the 30-minute mark, an amazing thing happened. The lyrics connected with us both individually as well as collectively. We realized that being dead is not such a bad thing. In fact, we embraced our status as exiles from the land of the living. We bonded like never before. Our energy and excitement spiked and we gave every last bit of ourselves to each other and that pillow fight /dance party turned into a pillow war / mosh pit. Then we launched into an epic game of Red Rover. Afterward, we were exhausted and sore, but never more alive (for a bunch of dead people). It was amazing.

The bad news is that there will be no more pillow fights for anyone new venturing our way. The managers of this place we're in said we caused too much damage and took just about everything breakable out of our suite. Now all we have are the TV, the stereo, and a few more books. Judging by our numbers here, it seems like things are winding down for you guys in the land of the living. Hopefully whichever of you head our way next aren't too disappointed. We'll do our best to make this place seem fun. We'll still have a dance party. There are a few more albums we haven't gotten to yet.

We also have a few more movies. Tonight is Red State and Reds. The latter was given to us by three members of the Economics convention down the hall. They said something about it being a very important film about a very important subject. Reading the DVD case, though, I'm not so sure. It sounds awfully political, which means it could be boring or controversial. I'd hate for this group to become divided after coming together so strongly. Most of the other economists recommended we read the short story "The Little Red Hen" and rambled on about its excellent portrayal of a proper work ethic and the consequences of lazy, collectivist ideology.

The fact that the economists left makes me wonder though- once you guys are finished, where are we all going to go? Is this just some kind of staging ground before we all move on? That's enough deep thinking for one day. I'm going to go drink a Red Bull.

Adios.


-Balaam

[Snapshot]

This is it - the final technicolour list. The one that hopefully helps point to our Judas. I'm sure none of you will be disappointed that this is the last of them.

DAY 1 RESULTS:

1. SAMUEL (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie
3. LOT (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
5. REBECCA (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. PAUL (Martha)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BARNABAS (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
9. SAMSON (Mordecai) <===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
12. CAIN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. CAIN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
14. SAMSON (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
15. SAMSON (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
19. MARY MAG (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
21. SAMSON (Samuel)
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
26. GIDEON (Hagar)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)
29. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Not Voting: Barnabas, Bathsheba, Esther, Judah, Lazarus



DAY 1 RESULTS (alternate format):

9. SAMSON (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
14. SAMSON (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
15. SAMSON (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
21. SAMSON (Samuel)


12. CAIN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. CAIN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
29. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)


1. SAMUEL (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie


6. PAUL (Martha)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously


16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)


19. MARY MAG (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie

3. LOT (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

5. REBECCA (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

7. BARNABAS (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

26. GIDEON (Hagar)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings


Not Voting:
Barnabas
Bathsheba
Esther<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Judah<---voter was the civvie smote after our second 3 civ stonings
Lazarus<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

Day 2 Results:

1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
3. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. CAIN (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. CAIN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
7. CAIN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. CAIN (Malchus)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
11. STEPHEN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
12. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Barnabas (2), Cain, Esther (2), Gideon, Hagar, Isaac, Jacob, Jephthah, Jonah, Judah (2), Mary Mag, Mordecai, Nicodemus, Pilate, Ruth, Samuel



DAY 2 RESULTS (alternate format):

4. CAIN (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. CAIN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
7. CAIN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. CAIN (Malchus)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
10. CAIN (Rahab)
12. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)


2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie


1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


11. STEPHEN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie

14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning



Not Voting:
Barnabas (2)
Cain<---voter = civvie
Esther (2)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Gideon<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
Hagar<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
Isaac<---voter = civvie
Jacob<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
Jephthah<---voter = civvie
Jonah<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Judah (2)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Mary Mag<---voter = civvie
Mordecai<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Nicodemus<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
Pilate
Ruth<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Samuel

DAY 3 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. JOB (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
8. RAHAB (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
17. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
18. JOB (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Day 3 Not Voting: Barnabas (3), Bathsheba (2), Hagar (2), Judah (3), Malchus, Pilate (2), Samuel (2), Stephen



DAY 3 RESULTS (alternate format):

10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)


2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. JOB (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
17. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
18. JOB (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN


6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie

8. RAHAB (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)

19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

Day 3 Not Voting:
Barnabas (3)
Bathsheba (2)
Hagar (2)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
Judah (3)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Pilate (2)
Samuel (2)
Stephen<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

DAY 4 Results:

1. RACHEL (Pilate)
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. BALAAM (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
6. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
8. JOB (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
9. JOB (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
10. JOB (Samuel)
11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
12. JOB (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
17. JOB (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
18. JOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
19. BALAAM (Judah)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
20. DEBORAH (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
21. JOB (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

Not Voting: Barnabas (4), Bathsheba (3), Isaac (2), Jacob (2), Lot, Malchus (2)



DAY 4 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
8. JOB (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
9. JOB (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
10. JOB (Samuel)
12. JOB (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
17. JOB (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
18. JOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
21. JOB (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


3. BALAAM (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
19. BALAAM (Judah)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings


1. RACHEL (Pilate)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie


11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)


5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

20. DEBORAH (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN


Not Voting:
Barnabas (4)
Bathsheba (3)
Isaac (2)<---voter = civvie
Jacob (2)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
Lot
Malchus (2)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

DAY 5 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. UZZIAH (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
18. MALCHUS (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)


Not Voting: Balaam, Bathsheba (4), Jacob (3), Judah (4), Malchus (3)




DAY 5 RESULTS (alternate format):

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
9. UZZIAH (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN


2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)


5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

18. MALCHUS (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Balaam
Bathsheba (4)
Jacob (3)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
Judah (4)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (3)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

DAY 6 Results:
1. RACHEL (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
2. RUTH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
3. RUTH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. ABSALOM (Pilate)
5. RUTH (Lot)
6. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. RUTH (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
8. RACHEL (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
9. RACHEL (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. PILATE (Rahab)
11. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
12. JACOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
13. JACOB (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. RUTH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
15. RACHEL (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
16. ABSALOM (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
17. RUTH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
18. RUTH (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
19. RUTH (Samuel)
20. RUTH (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Jonah (2), Judah (5), Malchus (4)



DAY 6 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. RUTH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
3. RUTH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
5. RUTH (Lot)
7. RUTH (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
14. RUTH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. RUTH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
18. RUTH (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
19. RUTH (Samuel)
20. RUTH (Bathsheba)


1. RACHEL (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
8. RACHEL (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
9. RACHEL (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
15. RACHEL (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder


4. ABSALOM (Pilate)
11. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
16. ABSALOM (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

6. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. PILATE (Rahab)

12. JACOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
13. JACOB (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Jonah (2)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Judah (5)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (4)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

Day 7 Results:
1. JONATHAN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. JONATHAN (Pilate)
4. REBECCA (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
5. REBECCA (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
6. JONATHAN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
7. PILATE (Rahab)
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
10. JEPHTHAH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
12. JEPHTHAH (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
13. JEPHTHAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
14. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
16. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (5), Deborah, Isaac (3), Jonah (3), Judah (6), Malchus (5)




DAY 7 RESULTS (alternate format):

8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
10. JEPHTHAH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
12. JEPHTHAH (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
13. JEPHTHAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie


1. JONATHAN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
3. JONATHAN (Pilate)
6. JONATHAN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
14. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


2. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. PILATE (Rahab)


4. REBECCA (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
5. REBECCA (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder

15. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

16. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (5)
Deborah<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Isaac (3)<---voter = civvie
Jonah (3)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Judah (6)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (5)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

Day 8 Results:
1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. JONATHAN (Pilate)
3. JONATHAN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. JONATHAN (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
5. JONATHAN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
6. JACOB (Rahab)
7. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
9. JONATHAN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
10. JONATHAN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. JONATHAN (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
13. JONATHAN (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
14. LAZARUS (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
15. JONATHAN (Samuel)

Not Voting: Bathsheba (6), Isaac (4),Jonathan, Judah (7), Malchus (6), Rebecca


DAY 8 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. JONATHAN (Pilate)
3. JONATHAN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. JONATHAN (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
5. JONATHAN (Balaam)[/dead]<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
9. JONATHAN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
10. JONATHAN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. JONATHAN (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
13. JONATHAN (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
15. JONATHAN (Samuel)


6. JACOB (Rahab)
8. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


1. LAZARUS (Lot)
14. LAZARUS (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

7. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (6)
Isaac (4)<---voter = civvie
Jonathan<---voter = civvie
Judah (7)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (6)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Rebecca<---voter = civvie

DAY 9 RESULTS:

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. ISAAC (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
3. MORDECAI (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. MORDECAI (Pilate)
5. ISAAC (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. ISAAC (Rahab)
7. MORDECAI (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
8. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
9. ISAAC (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
10. ISAAC (Samuel)
11. MORDECAI (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
12. PILATE (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. MORDECAI (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

Not voting: Balaam (2), Bathsheba (7), Deborah (2), Jonah (4), Malchus (7), Rebecca (2)




DAY 9 RESULTS (alternate format):
3. MORDECAI (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. MORDECAI (Pilate)
7. MORDECAI (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. MORDECAI (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
13. MORDECAI (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)


2. ISAAC (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
5. ISAAC (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. ISAAC (Rahab)
9. ISAAC (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
10. ISAAC (Samuel)


1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

12. PILATE (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Balaam (2)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
Bathsheba (7)
Deborah (2)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Jonah (4)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Malchus (7)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Rebecca (2)<---voter = civvie

Day 10 Results:

1. BELSHAZZAR (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. LAZARUS (Lot)
3. BELSHAZZAR (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
4. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
5. BELSHAZZAR (Pilate)
6. ISAAC (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
7. BELSHAZZAR (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
8. STEPHEN (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)
9. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. ISAAC (Rahab)
11. BELSHAZZAR (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
12. REBECCA (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
13. ISAAC (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
14. BELSHAZZAR (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Not Voting: Bathsheba (8), Jonah (5), Malchus (8), Samuel (3)




DAY 10 RESULTS (alternate format):
1. BELSHAZZAR (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
3. BELSHAZZAR (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
5. BELSHAZZAR (Pilate)
7. BELSHAZZAR (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
11. BELSHAZZAR (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. BELSHAZZAR (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


6. ISAAC (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
10. ISAAC (Rahab)
13. ISAAC (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie


2. LAZARUS (Lot)

4. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

8. STEPHEN (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

9. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

12. REBECCA (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (8)
Jonah (5)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Malchus (8)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Samuel (3)

DAY 11 (or Second Mafioso: Day 1)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. RUTH (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
3. RUTH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. RUTH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. ISAAC (Rahab)
6. ISAAC (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
7. RUTH (Bathsheba)
8. BATHSHEBA (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
9. ISAAC (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. RUTH (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
11. ISAAC (Ruth)<===VOTER = STILL HEATHEN
12. ISAAC (Samuel)

Not Voting: Jonah (6), Lazarus (2), Malchus (9), Pilate (3)



DAY 11 RESULTS (alternate format)

2. RUTH (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
3. RUTH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. RUTH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. RUTH (Bathsheba)
10. RUTH (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder


5. ISAAC (Rahab)
6. ISAAC (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
9. ISAAC (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. ISAAC (Ruth)<===VOTER = STILL HEATHEN
12. ISAAC (Samuel)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. BATHSHEBA (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Jonah (6)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Lazarus (2)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
Malchus (9)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Pilate (3)

DAY 12 RESULTS (aka Second Mafioso Day 2)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. DEBORAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
3. ISAAC (Samuel)
4. ISAAC (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
5. RAHAB (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. ISAAC (Pilate)
7. RAHAB (Bathsheba)
8. ISAAC (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
9. ISAAC (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
10. ISAAC (Rahab)

Not Voting: Isaac (5), Jonah (7), Lazarus (3), Malchus (10), Rebecca (3)


DAY 12 Results (alternate format)

3. ISAAC (Samuel)
4. ISAAC (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. ISAAC (Pilate)
8. ISAAC (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
9. ISAAC (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
10. ISAAC (Rahab)


5. RAHAB (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. RAHAB (Bathsheba)


1. LAZARUS (Lot)

2. DEBORAH (Stephen)

Not Voting:
Isaac (5)<---voter = civvie
Jonah (7)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Lazarus (3)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
Malchus (10)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Rebecca (3)

DAY 13 RESULTS (aka Second Mafioso- Chapter 3)

1. LOT (Pilate)
2. LAZARUS (Lot)
3. DEBORAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
5. DEBORAH (Bathsheba)
6. DEBORAH (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
7. PILATE (Rahab)
8. DEBORAH (Samuel)
9. LOT (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. LOT (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
11. SAMUEL (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting: Malchus (11)


Alternate Format:
3. DEBORAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
5. DEBORAH (Bathsheba)
6. DEBORAH (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
8. DEBORAH (Samuel)


1. LOT (Pilate)
4. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
9. LOT (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. LOT (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie


2. LAZARUS (Lot)

7. PILATE (Rahab)

11. SAMUEL (Esther)

Not Voting:
Malchus (11)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

DAY 14 RESULTS (aka Second Mafioso Chapter 4)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. REBECCA (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
3. REBECCA (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
4. REBECCA (Bathsheba)
5. REBECCA (Pilate)
6. REBECCA (Rahab)
7. REBECCA (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
8. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
9. REBECCA (Samuel)

Not Voting: Malchus (12), Rebecca (4)


ALTERNATE FORMAT:

2. REBECCA (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
3. REBECCA (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
4. REBECCA (Bathsheba)
5. REBECCA (Pilate)
6. REBECCA (Rahab)
7. REBECCA (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
9. REBECCA (Samuel)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

Not Voting:
Malchus (12)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Rebecca (4)<---voter = civvie

DAY 15 RESULTS (aka Second Mafioso- Chapter 5)

1. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
2. ESTHER (Pilate)
3. ESTEHR (Bathsheba)
4. ESTEHR (Samuel)
5. ESTHER (Rahab)
6. LAZARUS (Lot)

Not Voting: Lazarus (4)



ALTERNATE FORMAT:

2. ESTHER (Pilate)
3. ESTEHR (Bathsheba)
4. ESTEHR (Samuel)
5. ESTHER (Rahab)

1. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

6. LAZARUS (Lot)

Not Voting:
Lazarus (4)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

[Gunther]

Thank you Lot!

[Epignosis]

5 Then did Judas Iscariot become desperate in his schemes, and he plotted against the righteous alone. 6 He took a bow from Nebuchadnezzar’s armory and also took a handful of arrows. 7 Hiding from atop a building, Judas spotted Samuel, and he drew back an arrow and killed Samuel in the street.

[Snapshot]

Thank you Judas, whoever you are. I'm grateful for the opportunity to be involved in this day, no matter how it should play out.

[Snapshot]

Here is what I have so far. Judas was probably a civilian to begin with, and became a heathen either a) by being activated by another disciple or b) by being found by the heathen. Either way, I assume that his conversion happened during the night and was only notified at dawn.

Judas killed Balaam on Night X. There was no night IX, so the latest Judas was probably converted was night VIII (8). That means I think all lynch votes from day 9 onwards, it's a good bet Judas is on the side of the heathen, but anything before that we do not know what side Judas was on.

[Larry David]

...........................no Prophets.

Looking forward to finding out who everyone is after today

[Gunther]

That's a great deduction Lot. I guess I will start by looking at the two candidates day 9 through the end votes.

RIP Samuel. I was surprised to see you go but I know you said you expected it. You played a great game.

Judas, you too are playing a great game. I sure hope we get you today.

Lot, this could be a lot worse. We could be in a situation where we had not one person we could trust.

[Snapshot]

I've removed day 1 for each (no conversion before then), and put the rest into green for 'could still be civ' and red for 'must be heathen'.

Rahab

Day 2 - Vote 6 on Cain, Uzz had 3 (could work as civ or heathen BUT interesting flip from the day before)
Day 3 - Vote 4 on Uzz, MM had 5 (looks civ)
Day 4 - Vote 2 on Lazarus (could be either)
Day 5 - Vote 7 on Uzz, Jeph on 3 (There is a sudden bandwagon as all the other heathen get on. Rahab is right in the middle of it)
Day 6 - Vote 2 on Pilate, Ruth on 4, Rachel on 3 (leans more civ than heathen, but could still work as a heathen save)
Day 7 - Vote 2 on Pilate, Jonathan on 3, Rebecca on 2 (could be either, no accountability)
Day 8 - Vote 1 on Jacob, Jonathan on 4 (no accountability for Jonathan lynch)
Day 9 - Vote 3 Isaac, Mordecai on 2 (save of Mordecai)
Day 10 - Vote 2 on Isaac, Belshazzar on 4 (no accountability for 'civ' lynch, consistency)
Day 11 - Vote 1 on Isaac, Ruth on 3 (consistency, Ruth save)
Day 12 - Vote 6 on Isaac, Rahab on 2 (votes very late, safe vote)
Day 13 - Vote 1 on Pilate, Deborah on 3, Lot on 2. (She could have voted to save me given her confidence in me, she agreed with the case on Deborah (apparently) so why vote Pilate?? This is Rahab's worst looking vote for me).
Day 14 - Vote 5 on Rebecca, after she is going down. (meaningless)
Day 15 - Vote 4 on Esther, after she is lynched (could be interpreted as waiting to see if she and Esther could pull off a Pilate lynch).

Pilate

Day 2 - missed vote
Day 3 - missed vote
Day 4 - Vote 1 on Rachel (first vote all up, not meaningful)
Day 5 - Vote 1 for Uzz, first vote all up. Uzz lynched. (Good, but not amazingly good because his vote timing doesn't clear him)
Day 6 - Vote 1 for Absalom, Ruth at 2 (not great)
Day 7 - Vote 2 on Jonathan, Pilate at 1 (self-defence, this was at the time when people were linking Pilate to Uzz)
Day 8 - Vote 1 for Jonathan (not great, but essentially meaningless)
Day 9 - Vote 2 for Mordecai, noone else at more than 1 (this looks good for Pilate)
Day 10 - Vote 3 for Belshazzar (meaningless)
Day 11 - missed vote (crucial day for missing a vote! Not so good for Pilate)
Day 12 - Vote 3 for Isaac, one on Rahab (doesn't look good for Pilate, but I admit in the thread he thought I was evil and didn't want to listen to me)
Day 13 - Vote 1 for Lot (looks bad again, but see above)
Day 14 - Vote 4 for Rebecca (meaningless)
Day 15 - Vote 1 for Esther (looks pretty decent - also he thought he was vote two)

These two voting records both have high points and low points for each. Based on them alone I do (as I did yesterday) lean slightly more towards Rahab being bad than Pilate. I think the thread is probably the most revealing part.

[Snapshot]

Bathsheba, I agree. If you've suckered me then well played, but I'm pretty confident in my reasoning for why you can't be Judas. We can share the workload on this, vote together (since I don't have to vote Lazarus!!! YAY!) and just hope we figure it out.

[Snapshot]

Also, I'm not reading anything into the Samuel kill. Rahab would kill him because his mind seemed made up. Pilate would kill him to make it look like Rahab.

[Gunther]

I also think it looks good for Pilate that Esther voted for him and it looked like Rahab was wound up to vote for him but voted Esther in the end because she was gone anyway and he thought it might help his cred. (that last part was conjecture taken from the facts)

[Gunther]

Lot do you remember anyone building cases on either Pilate or Rahab?

[Snapshot]

I also think it looks good for Pilate that Esther voted for him and it looked like Rahab was wound up to vote for him but voted Esther in the end because she was gone anyway and he thought it might help his cred. (that last part was conjecture taken from the facts)

Yeah, I agree that looks good, but there are still two possible explanations in my mind for yesterday...

One is Esther/Rahab made a play to win yesterday and it failed.
One is Esther/Pilate decided to make a play to let one of them die but at least take Rahab out the day after and win.

Both of those are possibilities I think.

[Snapshot]

I do think one thing it's worth doing and I probably will try to if I get time is rereading all the known heathen and seeing what their attitudes towards Rahab and Pilate were and if those attitudes ever changed.

[Snapshot]

Lot do you remember anyone building cases on either Pilate or Rahab?

Not off the top of my head. I do remember some stuff about Pilate being a teammate of Uzziah back around day 7 or 8, which I want to track down.

[Gunther]

Yes, thats a good idea. I will look through the non-heathens and see if anyone made a case or some hard points against either Pilate or Rahab (I know Samuel for example has some hard points somewhere). I'm hoping Pilate and Rahab make this easier by contributing their own view as to why we should vote the other one.

[Gunther]

i have to fix some dinner now but I'll be here while I eat.

[Snapshot]

Uzz had nothing to say about Rahab, but did have this exchange with Pilate (before we got to day 9, of course).

Found this during my re-read:

I admit I may have been somewjat ambiguous on purpous. I'm just zany and fun like that! The above is the root meaning though, is it not?

So are you going to share any thoughts on anyone besides myself, Paul and Cain or are you going to continue to be unhelpful and further verify that you're bad? I don't believe you used that definition of the word for even a second.

I'd rather have one of you lynched first and go from there.

You got your wish and then some. They're all dead now, so where do you propose we go now? :P

I would suggest we pick a trustworthy leader (I nominate myself) who will randomize between everyone who is not Absalom or Pilate, for it seems to me that those two are being subtly framed by the baddies.

Incidentally I'm still glad that Job is dead, as he was clearly leading us into lynching each other. He may have had a civvie role but in actuality he was no better than Paul.

I find it curious that both Pilate and Absalom vote for me right after I defend them. However Stephen is acting even more sketchy so that's where my vote goes.

I find it curious that both Pilate and Absalom vote for me right after I defend them. However Stephen is acting even more sketchy so that's where my vote goes.

Curious indeed.

I see . . . I'm being framed! When I flip civ everyone will think Pilate is bad and not vote for Absalom!

[Snapshot]

Ruth expressed some suspicion of Pilate in her first life.

My opinion of Balaam is colored at this minute by that question. I missed it, shoot me. Jeez. If Job flips civ, I can see that being possible.

He did get my attention earlier with this:

Sorry Mary. I did not want to force a tie and have a no lynch, and I guess even if I had voted my gut and went with Uzziah, he still would not have been lynched with the last few votes.

I have been pretty much afk most of this game, so I doubt Noah will take me. I just hope Noah is an active person who will actually send in his PM

Who said anything about tie votes resulting in no lynch?

Ties resulting in no lynch is something this host has done fairly regularly in the past if he does not have a tie breaker role.

If there is one, I missed it.

He jumped on me for something that I don;t even understand what the issue was. It just feels like an attempt to make a nothing into a something.

I also am a bit wary of Pilate. The little Deborah has said was incredibly blendy. My opinion of several people will be based on how Job flips.

Linki, Jeph, he sounds frustrated to me. Been there, done that myself. But I have to say I also feel Rachel sounds like she believes what shes saying. So if Job does flip civ, I am not ready to turn on Rachel.

Linki @ Judah, that's a pretty good point.

Her second life, though, had some curious exchanges that make Pilate look a little better.

Greetings, Ruth. I trust you will be a quiet little Heathen until we can get you back where you belong?

I would like to request a shortened Day tomorrow. We could lynch Ruth in four hours, no problem. Let's move this along, we don't need 48 hours to do this! That is, if there are no serious objections.

I object. I have 48 hours to convince you I am reformed. I shall have it

And I live with my mother in law, you should read my book; I am about loyalty. But I still can't get a word in edgewise with that blessed woman; I intend to talk quite extensively, Pilate.

I am considering several possible votes. I like the thoughts on Isaac. Wasn't he my competition for my last lynch, too? I find Lots points on Lazarus intriguing. The whole Bathsheba replacing herself thing is too esoteric even for me.

It's interesting that Pilate was so gung ho to lynch me that he did not even want to give me a chance to speak my piece (whatcha scared of there, Pilate?) but no vote yet?

Again, as far as I noticed, no mention of Rahab at all.

[Snapshot]

In what is becoming a pattern, Deborah has a lot to say about Pilate and a lot less to say about Rahab, and it is all essentially before the point at which we know Judas is bad anyway... here is the Pilate stuff.

Spoiler: show

I'm not liking the case against Rachel. Yes, her opinion of List Man seems a bit wishy washy, as she criticized someone else for the same opinion earlier, but it doesn't mean she's necessarily bad. Reading all of her other posts, I see a fairly active player who is making sense.

Pilate, however, in jumping on the Rachel thing, feels off.

I'm running out of time for my catchup but I feel like I'm getting back a handle on the game.

Isaac (both 1.0 and 2.0) read as civ, to me. I won't be looking in that direction today.

@Pilate, I'm still catching up, but can you expand on your vote post? So Uzziah says he thinks you and Absalom are civvie, so you think they are bad for it? That's quite confusing, tbh.

Pilate reads more as a neutral read... more posts mentioning topics than a lot of players including myself, but they feel a bit like commenting on topics rather than engaging with them. Like, Pilate mentions suspicions and people of interest without really getting in there and contributing real thoughts. And this last post is WTF to me. I await a reply about it, as it's bizarre.

@Pilate, I just read through your posts. You seem a bit scattered to me, not very on point, but there is nothing there that says baddie, to me. I can see from your tone that you aren't happy with your own play, and i'vebeen there myself, but it doesn't mean you read like a baddie, so I'm not understanding your black & white issues with Uzzi's post.

Like, if Uzziah is lynched and is good OR bad, I don't think in either case I would think of you? No offence, I hope? A declaration of thinking someone is civ isn't a sign of baddieness, I think in my catchup posts today I said that about at least 3 people so far. If they get lynched, will people instantly think of me?

I don't have any real conclusion to pull fro your thoughts on this, I'm just really confused by it all.

Why did Pilate and Lazarus just make identical posts? ??? WTF?

Im being pushy because I don't have time to be patient. Fact is, this feels like a slip up to me. But at the same time, Pilate pushed hard against Uzziah didn't he? I think that two could be horsemen, but that's not really the target. .. g a h.

Im being pushy because I don't have time to be patient. Fact is, this feels like a slip up to me. But at the same time, Pilate pushed hard against Uzziah didn't he? I think that two could be horsemen, but that's not really the target. .. g a h.

What makes you think horseman instead of heathen?

Pilate was strongly against uzziah. Whatever he is, he can't be a heathen. Unless he gunned for his own teammate with little provocation. I don't think it's likely.

I don't see a case on Pilate at all, reading through his posts. He seems to have been putting pressure on both Uzziah and Mordecai, so I'm wondering why he has a vote?

Well, put it this way. Ruth voted for Isaac 4th yesterday, putting him in a position where there was a genuine chance he would be lynched instead of her. Why would the heathen team risk lynching someone no-one knows is heathen instead of someone we already know is?

Samuel's view on Isaac persuades me more about Samuel's mindset than about Isaac actually being bad.

Ruth would vote that way in order to distance herself from Isaac. The genuine chance he could be lynched is what makes it smart distancing, the risk element makes it that much more convincing.

I think that Isaac and Lot are both bad. I'll vote Isaac this time.

The point about the Mordecai/Isaac tie is solid, Mordy's vote makes no sense if they aren't teamies. That, and while I know I haven't made a ton of posts in this game, I've got a decent sense of who I think is trustworthy, and Pilate is one of them, so Isaac is getting my vote again.

Here is the Rahab quote:

Rahab has little output, but what is there is roughly neutral, nothing really pinged me but nothing soot dout as civvie, either. At least she's around.

Ruth is a bit wishy-washy for me. Lots of posts at the start with lots of jokey day 0 banter, but since then, Ruth has participated but often only on the bigger cases of the moment. It doesn't necessarily point to baddieness, I know that when life is in the way sometimes it is hard to comment past the bigger stuff, but it's still worth pointing out.

I haven't yet found anything better than Malchus/Lazarus for my vote today.

Well, this is a lot different to the first two.

Deborah's posts on Pilate could be the smoking gun...

She stars off neutral reading him and asking him questions...

Later, she defends him quite heavily.

She virtually ignores Rahab altogether, but has quite a strong focus on Pilate throughout her posts.

What to make of this?

Well, her approach with Rahab mirrors her approach with Esther exactly.

But I dunno about her turn on Pilate. A good thing? A bad thing? When I wanted to see Deborah lynched, my perspective on her 'trusting Pilate' was that it reflected badly on her, but actually reflected pretty good on Pilate. Now I'm second guessing that. Hmm...

[Snapshot]

That's me for now, I need to get some things done.

[Gunther]

Lot! You're so far ahead of me! I have some things I need to do tonight still so i can't start looking at the non heathen until morning. I could possibly stay up later but then I'd just sleep later which would get me off to a late start. So I'm going to keep my normal schedule and start this in the morning.

[Nicol Bolas]

Why did Pilate and Lazarus just make identical posts? ??? WTF?

LOL, I forgot about this one. It was awesome, I hope Lazarus is reading this and remembering as well. I'll tell you now what happened there, not that it's relevant to the lynch. Lazarus accidentally posted as his non-sock self (sorry to have you gone, knowing who you were, Laz), and I saw... I copied it and posted it as it was being removed, and then he posted it again as Lazarus, not realizing I had gotten in there first. What fun!!

Here is where I started it, and he posts the same post soon after. His reactions to it happening are truly hilarious.

I think Pilate read my mind.

Had you meant to reply to his post?

Yeah

"Yeah", he says, knowing that it was his post originally and I totally stole it, and he couldn't do anything about it.

Anyways, I can't believe how small the poll is today. Four of us, and if Rahab isn't Judas then I guess we've lost the game. RIP Samuel.

I don't know what I can say that will convince you guys that I'm a Civ, I feel like your excellent research has said a lot toward that conclusion. Deborah does indeed swing around from mistrust to trust about me, but it must be just that she knew I wasn't bad and wanted to get cred for it? I don't know. It isn't a smoking gun, and I'm not bad.

And if Lot is Judas, then I'll be sad to lose, but happy to have been right... and if Bathsheba is Judas, then I got nothing and she really played it right.

I'd really like to hear form Rahab though.

[Snapshot]

Lol Pilate. That makes total sentence, given was Lazarus was regularly, shall we say, not so clever.

[Snapshot]

"total sentence" lol!!! total sense, that is.

[Snapshot]

Pilate, I've read more than I've posted so far, but I'm feeling pretty decent about you so far. I read back all of your posts and I will post some of them but I think they point to you being good. I also think Esther's approach to you points to you being good.

One thing that could be useful, if you have time, though... is to look at Bathsheba for yourself and see what you come back with. I want to make sure I'm not being short-sighted there.

[Snapshot]

Reading Esther - pretty good case there for why Bathsheba is not Judas, as well. About to post more on Esther.

[Snapshot]

All Esther's posts on Pilate - there are a lot. It should be said, too, that Esther REALLY goes after Pilate - in a way we have not seen a single baddie go after another baddie in this game. The most important thing about this suspicion is that it never lets up, there is never any bend in it at all, no point in time at which a recruit might change her perspective. She could easily have let up at some point and gone in another direction if Pilate was a teammate.

Spoiler: show

My thoughts are that Pilate is playing very oddly. It seems like he could be a new player almost, but then he said this:

I'm shocked that I don't have more suspicion by now. So this is the life of an unforgivably low poster.

That statement makes me think he is a seasoned player who usually posts much more than he has this game. Pilate is probably my #1 suspicion right now.

My next two suspicions are Uzziah and Job. I hate to see the back and forth continue on between then just because we are all confused on which of the two to lynch. I think one of them is most likely bad, I just can't put my finger on which. I have voted for Job previously, but reading back I am thinking Uzziah might be the one that needs to go.

linki: Well, apparently Rachel is NOT confused and thinks its Job that is bad between the two. And, fwiw, I think Rachel is good So maybe I should trust her.

Maybe those of you that said it are right about Pilate just being lazy, not bad. But I don't think his posts can be compared to Mary as someone said. Mary was more non-existent. Pilates post are decidedly odd. Also, every player is different. Mary's lynch may not have turned out like we wanted, but that doesn't mean a quiet, odd Pilate is positively civ. It could still go either way.

It's good to look at voting records and I appreciate all the work some of you have done looking into them and reporting your findings. However I I cannot get past Pilate's posts.

Epignosis is bigger than Jesus!

Absalom was part of Uzziah's scheme, as I laid out before. He is a Heathen teammate. That's how these schemes work. *votes Absalom*

What trickery is this?

Here's the post where you "laid it out" before.

Go ahead and vote me, Isaac, if you wish. I'm a Civ.

@Pilate, I'm still catching up, but can you expand on your vote post? So Uzziah says he thinks you and Absalom are civvie, so you think they are bad for it? That's quite confusing, tbh.

Uzziah has no reason to think I'm Civ. How could anyone "read" me as Civ with the way I've been playing. Hardly here, and when I am here, I say sketchy things.

He knows I'm Civ because he is bad. He's planting seeds so that if I get lynched and flip Civ, he looks good... and if he gets lynched and flips bad, I look bad.

If Uzziah were lynched and flipped bad, the intention is for people to return to this post and read it with the knowledge that he's bad. So then Absalom and I look bad. I'm more likely to be lynched than Absalom, that's my opinion anyway. So then I flip Civ, and Absalom isn't an instant target anymore. Maybe even thought of as Civ for it. Could be a distancing thing between Uzziah and Absalom, both baddies. Maybe not, it's my theory.

And yeah, I forgot to vote in the poll earlier. I saw the 'suaded post, and I was like "damn, I forgot!" and went and completed the vote as I had intended to.

You go from "oh it's my theory, maybe not, shrug" to "He is a Heathen teammate" in two posts. Why the sudden increase in certainty? I don't fully understand the convolutions of your theory, but I think it's fairly obvious that I cannot be Uzziah's teammate.

Weak! So weak, Pilate. I am voting Pilate.

Alright folks. I know I have been mostly quiet. But like I said, I am an observer in the beginning of full games. I think I can now come forth with my first true suspicion. Pilate.

His behavior in the thread has lead me to reread his posts from start to finish (which didn't take very long actually).

First of all, he missed Day 0 entirely - didn't post, didn't vote. He comes in Day 1 and says he didn't realize the game had started. So, for over 48 hours he was oblivious that the game had started? Unlikely. He comes in on Day 1 and is the 6th person to vote altogether, but first to vote for Uzziah. Well, Uzz was bad you say? Yes, but Uzz had no votes at the time. Lot had 1 vote at the time, Samuel had 2. I see Pilate's Day 1 vote for a teammate as trying to gain civ cred.

Day 2 - Says if he would have he would have voted Marth Day 2 (but he couldn't 'cause she was then dead). In the same post he says he is still suspicious of Uzz and will probably vote him, but ends up voting Job (Uzz' rival) instead.

Day 3 - misses vote entirely

Day 4 - Votes Rachel. He quotes a case made from Belshazzar and jumps on that train. However, the case that Belsh made wasn't very convincing enough for anyone else or even for Belsh himself as he voted Uzz that day (Belsh did, I mean). I think Pilate was just looking for something to grasp onto so he could keep from voting his own beloved Uzz.

I'm shocked that I don't have more suspicion by now. So this is the life of an unforgivably low poster.

This is where my suspicion of Pilate began. This post here made me look into him in the first place. It looks like he is trying to hard to apologize for not being helpful to the cause of getting baddies.

Day 5 - Pilate talks about how he'd been MIA. He wonders where the suspicion of Rachel went.

Uzziah has no reason at all to think I'm Civ, unless he's bad.

How could anyone "read" me as Civ with the way I've been playing. Hardly here, and when I am here, I say sketchy things.

These quote stands out to me. He admits his behavior thus far should be seen as baddie behavior. I think that he thinks by admitting this we will think he is civ, but not me. And I think he uses the first quote to distance from Uzz again as he is the first to vote for him and the first to vote altogether if you don't count host/non/dead option. It bit him in the ass, however when people began to follow his crazy behavior and Uzz got the most votes that day.

Day 6 - Now he just plays dumb.

What happened to the night? We lynched Uzziah, and went straight into another lynch?

AND...he votes for Absalom, the first to vote for his teammate, Ruth.

Pilate will most likely get my vote today.

HAHA....I didn't even see Pilate's most recent post until now. "good job guys, maybe Absalom is okay afterall." Yeah, maybe :P

I voted for Pilate as I said I probably would.

Pilate
Day 1: First vote for Uzziah when the highest vote-taker has two. Incredibly ballsy Day 1 play if bad.
Day 2: Missed.
Day 3: Missed.
Day 4: First vote for Rachel.
Day 5: First vote for Uzziah. Clears him in my mind.
Day 6: First vote for me.
Day 7: Second vote for Jonathan.
Day 8: First vote for Jonathan.

Observations
Pilate is unimpeachable.

What do you mean he's unimpeachable?

Belsh, Balaam, Lot, I appreciate your most recent analyses. I have just skimmed them as of now but will fully read it all by the end of today in time for the lynch. I still think Pilate is bad as I have stated a case on him before. I will read him individually again as well and see if there is anything to add.

So Isaac's response to my case is a self-vote.

Stuff like that is frustrating.

I voted Lazarus at the very start of the day. I did mention it (at least I'm pretty sure I did).

I agree. If you are civ, try and defend yourself at least. Help our your team, you know. Don't just give up!

I think that a Mordecai vote will give us some good information right now.

Maybe, but I don't trust you at all, so......

Who is everyone's top three suspects right now? Here are mine:

1. Jacob
2. Deborah
3. Mordecai

I feel more strongly about who I trust more easily than say who I suspect. That said,

1. Pilate
2. Isaac
3. Jacob
and I am going to add 4.Mordy only b/c his vote record. I think he's been pretty helpful in the thread though. I have seen civs have shitty voting records and get lynched b/c of it.

Bah! I got logged out and lost my whole post!

Belshazzar wrote:
I don't see what's so scummy about Balaam's post. Since I'm not one of them, it's perfectly true that the Heathens will wagon or even push for my lynch. I'll get lynched, they will get to night kill, player field reduced by two.

I'll just say that I agree with this. And other than Absalom, I have had my eye on the players that have voted for Belsh already (Jacob, Pilate, Isaac). I just don't see how Belsh is Heathen. I am voting Pilate. Again.

RIP Abs and Jonah. Absalom, you contributed so much, I'm surprised you stuck around as long as you did.

I am sorry I can't remember everything about the game Bathsheba, but I find as we get to fewer people I am able to keep up a lot better. I'm sorry I accused you of not telling the truth about being replaced. I hope we can be friends

So, going forward. I don't see the see the suspicion on Lot at all. I have been pinged by Pilate the whole game and now that he is trying to drum up suspicion on Lot makes him look more suspicious IMO. I think Lot looks and acts very civ.

Thanks, Lot. I would agree with you that Rahab is the #2 after Rebecca, but what do you make of Pilate spearheading the move against you this past lynch? That's what put him above Rahab for me.

I see Lot's perspective on Rahab being #2, but I have had bad feelings about Pilate ALL game and this is actually some evidence to back up my gut.

Wow. I am shocked. And I agree, I wish Rebecca would have cared enough to at least defend herself. What a wasted lynch. I'm most likely to vote Pilate next, but I am sure that goes without saying.

I am getting the ball rolling here. I am voting Pilate. Again. I really think he is the the one who ought to go today.

I'd sooner figure out who is bad through actual analysis than guess and hope for the best.

But your analysis said absolutely nothing. You went back and forth contradicting yourself sometimes even within the same post. I have been saying Pilate is bad news all game. I've stated cases on his voting record and gave an "actual analysis" of his behavior. I didn't waver or contradict myself when I did it either. I thought you were good just about all game. But in the past couple phases, you have just been acting weird. Maybe you lost your confidence in a heathen win and you are just showing your fear through your posts. I am starting to wonder if the last two baddies are Pilate and YOU.

My voting record was brought up. Lot says I look bad b/c I vote early or late. First of all, I wouldn't say I vote "early", I would say i vote before most of the others. I don't like to bandwagon. I think its cheap. I think for myself, decide who I see as bad and I go for it. There is nothing wrong with that. The times I voted late (I think it was once or twice) it was b/c RL stuff. Lot says my voted never really MEANT anything. Sure they did. They pointed to my opinion of who was bad. So Lot, are you saying my opinions are worthless?

You can count on me to vote for Rahab or Esther. I won't choose now, but I will not split the vote between those two when I do vote... just mentioning it so that someone else can be confident in casting the first vote.

This is shit. You just don't want to look bad if the person you vote for is civ. So, you are going to vote late and bandwagon.

As I said to Bathsheba - everyone alive I trusted.

I trusted you
I trusted Rahab
I trusted Pilate
I trusted Samuel

I was wrong about someone. Probably two someones.

That's why I needed to revisit voting records and thread reads. By the way, I did that for everyone who I did the voting record of, I just posted the things on you because I think you came out looking worst.

I'm not 'so confident' - not in any way. But your posts today make me feel a lot better about our chances.

I understand. I still think your posts were ridiculously contradictory and that your analysis of my vote record was poor. But, I guess I am not convincing you to vote pilate over me. Its time for me to do the dinner thing. But, for civ sake, look over me and Pilate one more time. Please. I think you will see Pilate is the way to go today.

Like - if Pilate actually is bad after all of that.... wow!

[Snapshot]

What does Esther have to say about Rahab?

Well, nothing before the time of recruitment. After that...

Also, not that I feel particularly strongly about it, but I was thinking about it on the way home from work: Bathsheba has had an unusual "replacement" situation if she was indeed replaced. She's still up on the poll, and there was no host announcement of her replacement, which is generally the norm. I thought it was weird when Esther asked her where she'd been when Bathsheba had just explained it, but then I considered that slim possibility that Bathsheba 2.0 could be Bathsheba 1.0 sneaking her way back into the game.

THIS. SO THIS! I was wondering if anyone else was thinking this. I did talk about how if someone is replaced that they are not able to be lynched/killed for a whole phase. Then, I think Absalom said something like...well she is on the poll. I think she has to be faking it. I bet she was a baddie laying low and now she feels she needs to step up her game, come out of the woodwork and actually play. And I know she "better explains" in another post but I just don't think its genuine. She also says this:

Rahab's posts are few, but helpful. And in that statement a light just came on. I think I know who she may be behind the sock! Haha.

I see Lot's perspective on Rahab being #2, but I have had bad feelings about Pilate ALL game and this is actually some evidence to back up my gut.

All in all, a read of Esther has me heavily leaning towards a vote for Rahab.

For Esther and Pilate to be bad means that they had to have planned a long time in advance that this is how it would look if one of them came back bad. Which would be a really clever move well played. But Esther's defence here of Rahab also looks a bit like she is teamies with Rahab.

[Snapshot]

Everything I'm reading has me leaning the same way. It's going to take a pretty convincing argument to change my mind at this point, I'd say, but it really depends on whether Bathsheba is equally convinced.

[Nicol Bolas]

This early quote on Bathsheba can be interpreted in a couple of ways. Bathsheba, do you put any stock into this early suspicion given all you know now?

I kinda find Lot a little strange. He seemed to be defending Uzziah a bit and then ended up voting for him. It's like he was doing a little "conflicted defense" of him when he was getting considered and when Cain went ahead by some distance he threw a vote on Uzziah anyway. I could honestly see the two being teammates and that being a distancing move. However, I'm a little unsure I actually suspect Uzziah otherwise so I'm not sure I'll put a lot of stock in it yet.

linki: And Jephthah is right. I am a little wary of Cain lurking down there.

.... and now I realize that this Bathsheba isn't the same one that made these comments. Anyways, I got halfway through Bathsheba's posts and then I got too sleepy to continue. I don't think she looks like the baddie. I believe now that there is only one baddie left, because if there were two then things would be going differently in the thread right now.

I don't think I'll get much more analysis done before the lynch is up. Tomorrow is busy for me, get up, take the kids to my mom's, go to work, then pretty much from there to another job. I am seriously not the baddie, I'm not Judas, I'm a Civ role, and I swear on my life that that's the truth. I don't think this vote will be swayed to Lot or Bathsheba at this point, so if one of you are Judas, then congratulations. Make me your last kill.

Otherwise.... I'm voting Rahab now, and I believe you will do the same. Lot, your Esther-based analysis is pretty good... moreso for her Rahab stuff than the stuff about me, although the Pilate stuff is accurate - she was the one who was after me the most along the way. Much like I was after Uzziah in my own crappy way for a longer period of time. If I were bad, then it would be a big double-bussing that was planned for a while. Not too bad, but also not what happened. I would have probably tried to do better in the thread if I were part of a baddie plan of that length. Anyways, I'm rambling now, time for bed.

[Joe Who?]

Oh my freaking god my beautiful post disappeared Fuck this. It's 2AM here and I'm pissed now, so I'm going to bed. I will have something for you guys tomorrow.

[Gunther]

I re-read Balaam and he did not focus on Pilate or Rahab. They get mentioned in his lists but he was suspicious of other people. Here are the two entries from the last list he did which is the most he said about either of them:

PILATE:
Takes Uzziah at his word D1 and votes for him. Misses D2 & D3. Votes Rachel right out of the gate D4. Votes Uzziah right out of the gate D5. Votes Absalom D6, giving people another alternative to Ruth. Unswayed by the Jeph distraction D7 and votes Jonathan. First vote for Jonathan D8. Puts Mordecai 1 vote into the lead D9. I wouldn't call him unimpeachable but he's a lot like Absalom. If he's Heathen, he's done a masterful job and it had been a pleasure watching him work.

RAHAB:
Convenient late-D1 vote for Uzziah. Her D2 vote puts Cain way out into the lead (now up to a 4-vote lead over Uzziah). Ballsy vote (for a Heathen) D3- brings Uzz to within 1 vote of Mary. Follows Mordecai in voting for Laz D4. The 7th vote for Uzziah D5- making it all but impossible for Jeph to catch up. Weird Pilate vote D6. Weird but consistent Pilate vote D7. Sticks with Jacob as more sus D8. Her D9 vote puts Isaac into the lead over Mordecai. Feeling good but not ready to friend her on Facebook just yet.

Now on to Absalom. I dreaded doing he and Balaam becasue their post count is too high.

Lot, based on what I've read since the lynch I too am leaning toward Rahab.

[Gunther]

There was so little from absalom about either one (pilate or rahab) that I'm just listing the comments. First comment is mine, rest are absolam.

1. Rahab was the last person Absalom voted (as a gut vote) before Absalom died.
2. A part of me thinks Rahab might be an exceptionally devious baddie who managed to voet for her teammate three times at more or less safe points. It's always the quiet ones.
3. Pilate is unimpeachable.
4. Pilate is frustrating in his unwillingness to actually do anything constructive.
5. Responds to Pilate when Pilate thinks absalom is uzziah's teammate.

There was no focus on either of them.

This is the second one where there is no focus on pilate or rehab. I'm starting to think the focus on them was all toward the end. Maybe instead of doing Rachel next I'll pick someone who was still alive near the end.