[END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

[Marmot]

MIKAMI

You know who you are, and I know who you are. Your time has come. DIE BITCH

[Sloonei]

Alright, so here is the Top 10 "posts in thread" of all time at The Syndicate... but, as Rico noted, these are including post-game posts for all non-Talking Heads games:

1. JaggedJimmyJay 1440 [Talking Heads]
2. Turnip Head 1001 [Death Note]
3. Ricochet 976 [Talking Heads]
4. Chris 952 [Doctor Who]
5. Metalmarsh89 900 [Talking Heads]
6. MovingPictures07 858 [Doctor Who]
7. DharmaHelper 822 [Death Note]
8. Metalmarsh89 719 [Death Note]
9. Sloonei 705 [Bullets Over Broadway]
10. Golden 692 [Bullets Over Broadway]

Honorable mention to:
Epignosis 673 [Death Note]

You forgot these two.

JaggedJimmyJay 769 [Economics]
MovingPictures07 722 [Economics]

And two more Honorable mentions.

zeek 683 [Dr. Who]
Metalmarsh89 662 [Flash]

And that's everything over 600.

But then I'm pushed out of the top 10

[Ricochet]

100 PMs from MP wanting to know if I'll do it or not.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This post is game-relevant.

[Marmot]

This post is game-relevant.

See if you can fit it on the paper.

[Marmot]

Back on topic.

Jay, you suggested two potential mafia teams of two players. Would you agree or disagree that if there were two mafia left, then this game would effectively be over?

[Ricochet]

http://ytcropper.com/cropped/P056426661826bb

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've given my life to this game. Too much investment. Anything but victory will be hard to take.

[Marmot]

So you want to win regardless of how many are left?

[Ricochet]

Back on topic.

Jay, you suggested two potential mafia teams of two players. Would you agree or disagree that if there were two mafia left, then this game would effectively be over?

Maybe not, with the mafia killess until N15. Plus night kill shenanigans and drug-related restrictions.

But I don't believe in this two mafia left theory, of course.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Back on topic.

Jay, you suggested two potential mafia teams of two players. Would you agree or disagree that if there were two mafia left, then this game would effectively be over?

Not officially, but practically. The two mafia roles together would be a lot to overcome without a majority. I'm not sure whether we'd be mathematically eliminated like town would normally be in a 2 vs 2.

[a2thezebra]

I could get more posts than even JJJ if I spammed the shit out of this game before it ends.

[Ricochet]

I could get more posts than even JJJ if I spammed the shit out of this game before it ends.

Makes me wonder who the top poster in the spectators thread is.

[Marmot]

Back on topic.

Jay, you suggested two potential mafia teams of two players. Would you agree or disagree that if there were two mafia left, then this game would effectively be over?

Not officially, but practically. The two mafia roles together would be a lot to overcome without a majority. I'm not sure whether we'd be mathematically eliminated like town would normally be in a 2 vs 2.

At least one player is drugged. Blind is still alive.

There are a lot of many obstacles for the civs to overcome if there are two mafia left.

Linki: Oh hi zebra. Long see, no time.

[Tangrowth]

Alright, so here is the Top 10 "posts in thread" of all time at The Syndicate... but, as Rico noted, these are including post-game posts for all non-Talking Heads games:

1. JaggedJimmyJay 1440 [Talking Heads]
2. Turnip Head 1001 [Death Note]
3. Ricochet 976 [Talking Heads]
4. Chris 952 [Doctor Who]
5. Metalmarsh89 900 [Talking Heads]
6. MovingPictures07 858 [Doctor Who]
7. DharmaHelper 822 [Death Note]
8. Metalmarsh89 719 [Death Note]
9. Sloonei 705 [Bullets Over Broadway]
10. Golden 692 [Bullets Over Broadway]

Honorable mention to:
Epignosis 673 [Death Note]

You forgot these two.

JaggedJimmyJay 769 [Economics]
MovingPictures07 722 [Economics]

And two more Honorable mentions.

zeek 683 [Dr. Who]
Metalmarsh89 662 [Flash]

And that's everything over 600.

How could I forget about Economics?

[Tangrowth]

Four hours and a half left for me in my chase for the Turnip. I have to study right now, but in an hour or so, if anyone wants to talk, let's talk.

I'm considering posting any post-game related thought in the spectators thread, as to not spoil whatever my final count here will be, will that be possible? Or a special post-game thread?

Spectator chat is a chatzy, actually, not a thread.

Post-game discussion will happen in this thread, just to avoid any confusion.

[Tangrowth]

MIKAMI

You know who you are, and I know who you are. Your time has come. DIE BITCH

That was one of the best moments ever.

[Ricochet]

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ). If a second player is drugged, then D15 sounds a bit doomy, indeed...

linki: That's a bit disappointing. Dead/spectators chat on Jesus Toast Mafia, for instance, is a thread that gets revealed post-game. How are we supposed to browse the chatzy history, for instance? It doesn't allow to scroll too far in the past, without premium account and such bullsuit.

[Tangrowth]

Sloonei and I discussed the pros and cons of thread v. chatzy spectator chat before the game began, and we opted in favor of the chatroom instantaneous format over the archived benefit of a thread. In the future, I'll probably switch it up.

[Tangrowth]

Just under 45 minutes before Day 14 is over.

[Marmot]

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ).

That's what I was trying to tell you. :P

[Ricochet]

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ).

That's what I was trying to tell you. :P

I... hang on to what I got. You... say what you want to.

[Marmot]

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ).

That's what I was trying to tell you. :P

I... hang on to what I got. You... say what you want to.

You start a conversation you can't even finish it. You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything.

[a2thezebra]

[a2thezebra]

[Ricochet]

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ).

That's what I was trying to tell you. :P

I... hang on to what I got. You... say what you want to.

You start a conversation you can't even finish it. You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything.

I wanna talk. I wanna talk as much as I want.

[a2thezebra]

[a2thezebra]

[Marmot]

Not only is zebra going to spam, she's going to make this thread impossible to load.

[a2thezebra]

[Tangrowth]

Yeah, let's not spam too much please, especially with the Youtubes. Otherwise this thread might crash.

[Ricochet]

Lol, someone didn't pay attention to the lyrics. This ain't no fooling around. [img]http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smile ... .gif%20%20[/img]

(at least not for the dead)

[a2thezebra]

Not only is zebra going to spam, she's going to make this thread impossible to load.

And then you will never know how the game ends, AHAHAHAHAHAHA okay I'm done

[Marmot]

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ).

That's what I was trying to tell you. :P

I... hang on to what I got. You... say what you want to.

You start a conversation you can't even finish it. You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything.

I wanna talk. I wanna talk as much as I want.

I get wild when I get ready, I can hardly talk

[Ricochet]

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ).

That's what I was trying to tell you. :P

I... hang on to what I got. You... say what you want to.

You start a conversation you can't even finish it. You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything.

I wanna talk. I wanna talk as much as I want.

I get wild when I get ready, I can hardly talk

If you were really smart, you'd know what to do.

[Russtifinko]

I'm back! Catching up and posting final responses.

Plz stop spamming, everyone. Especially you, Rico.

[Tangrowth]

25 minutes remain until Day 14 is complete.

[a2thezebra]

I'm back! Catching up and posting final responses.

Plz stop spamming, everyone. Especially you, Rico.

You haven't seen shit yet lol

[Marmot]

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ).

That's what I was trying to tell you. :P

I... hang on to what I got. You... say what you want to.

You start a conversation you can't even finish it. You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything.

I wanna talk. I wanna talk as much as I want.

I get wild when I get ready, I can hardly talk

E glassala tuffm i zimbra

[Ricochet]

I'm back! Catching up and posting final responses.

Plz stop spamming, everyone. Especially you, Rico.

I don't have anything new to reply to.

I think the drug + Blind risk can apply for today (so far meaning I could die? ).

That's what I was trying to tell you. :P

I... hang on to what I got. You... say what you want to.

You start a conversation you can't even finish it. You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything.

I wanna talk. I wanna talk as much as I want.

I get wild when I get ready, I can hardly talk

E glassala tuffm i zimbra

So say so.

[Tangrowth]

I wonder if this thread will crack 9,000 by the time postgame is over.

[Ricochet]

Misa may ask misalf: will this thread crack 9,000 by the time postgame is over.

sorry russ :smallgreenblush:

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm back! Catching up and posting final responses.

Plz stop spamming, everyone. Especially you, Rico.

The day ends in 10 minutes. You're going to have to move fast.

[Ricochet]

T minus ten.

Wait, wait for the moment to come.

[Marmot]

I'll be here all the time...I can never quit.

[Ricochet]

The bar is called Heaven, and the number of minutes left are... d'oh, too late.

[Russtifinko]

2. You've identified a clear top suspect among the three options you're currently faced with. You don't seem willing to assign a role to me but you have called it "impossible" for MM to be mafia-aligned (an assertion that I don't believe can be confidently made from a townie mindset). I ask you this then: in your efforts to sell MM and I on the notion that Rico is a bad guy -- where is your mind for alternatives? From your perspective, there should be reason to worry about JaggedJimmyJay too. You've suggested I might be a mafia team mate of Rico, but I don't think you've explored the possibility that I am the lone remaining mafioso. Have you discarded that possibility without doing the legwork you've done for Rico? If so, why?

Ok, I was off on some role deductions, and so thank you guys for filling me in. I had missed that Blind was obviously still alive. My tinfoil was the Rico and JJJ's exchange earlier about if JJJ would live to lylo was a forced interaction to make it seem like JJJ was hinting Blind when really he was bad. I know I'm not Blind, and I know who MM is, so it seems reasonable to conclude that JJJ, who hinted Blind, and not Rico, who asked JJJ to hint Blind, is Blind.

Originally I thought you were civ and Rico was bad because you have been acting willing to consider different viewpoints and I'm seeing Rico as super eager to end the Day early without any discussion. I tinfoiled a good cop-bad-cop thing by you guys, but MM reminding us that Blind is still alive allayed that fear. I have no reservations whatsoever that you and MM are both civ.

Regardless, JJJ, my original thought process was that Wilgy was more likely to be bad than not. However, with this confirmed, there is no doubt in my mind that he is the second-last baddie. As for MM's role, I am stumped that you're not getting it. The closest I can really come to making it obvious without being too explicit is that motel room dying CANNOT have been solely a result of drugs. This is also tied in with my point about me not being able to use my power if I were drugs and cast the killing votes on LC and Mac (I wrongly included Bullz in that, I thought he had died on an even Day but it was Day 11). It's a central point that I think illustrates why I am not bad and Rico is: there were only 2 even Nights before Day 12. Due to Memories Can't Wait, when LC died we skipped N2, when Mac died we skipped N4, and when Floyd died we skipped N8. Therefore if I were Drugs, I singlehandedly deprived myself of the use of my power twice while bussing teammates, when I easily could have placed a vote elsewhere and tried to get similar cred the next Day. Also, if I were Drugs, I could only have drugged motel room 1 time, per MP's post earlier toDay. 2+2 = 4, which would not be enough to lynch him over MM, who had 5. There had to be a civilian reason motel took the lead in that lynch, and MM is it. Only one living civ rule has the potential for that, and it's super obvious which one if you read the roles. That's why I was saying his vote is the only one that matters today, and it's why I am firmly convinced he is civ.

[Russtifinko]

Also, I did intend for the Wilgy point to be one about hypocrisy and not a connection between Rico and Wilgy looking bad in and of itself. However, knowing for a fact that you are good, it's thus either Wilgy or BurgerBoy that was bad. If nothing else, probability is higher Wilgy was, and he was a top suspect before he was NKed. Therefore I do think the Rico-Wilgy connection is a much stronger point than I originally made it out to be.

[Marmot]

Who's going to die today?

[Russtifinko]

JJJ, the only alternative to what I'm saying regarding Wilgy is if BOTH Rico and I are bad, in which case you'd be fucked anyway and MP would have ended the game without this Day. You know I'm talking sense.