Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

[Sorsha]

Matt is awfully quiet...


Sorsha, what option are you voting for tonight?

I don't know. I'm like, literally agonizing over it and it's probably not going to mean a thing.

[Marmot]

Lololol no, in the podcast he said he gave two simple rules to the team at the very beginning: Don't spew & Don't buss and then you and Jefferson Reed just raised a leg and pee'd all over that.

I couldn't stand his attitude of directing each players' actions before Day 1 had even started. I told him we'd (or at least I'd) be better off just following my meta.

[MacDougall]

If it weren't me in the situation, I would say that it's just as likely that those that voted for Motel Room and/or Wilgy on days that their lynches didn't occur when they should have, whose votes appeared haphazard, are more likely to be scum than the person who unwittingly was hard defending a revealed scum in the thread. The fact that Motel Room voted for Wilgy himself lends credence to the fact that their team had history of voting for one another. It is possible they were doing it continuously throughout the game. But as a defense it's too wifom so I will leave that unsaid. Oh wait I accidentally hit submit.

[MacDougall]

Sorsha just don't vote at all. Leave this beautiful tie in honour of me.

[Ricochet]

Lol FZ vote for the option with no votes for it. Maybe the world will end.

Uh are you seeing things mate? You ok?

I don't really understand the positions mechanisms. I haven't even really thought much about them the entire game tbh.

Like, you don't understand anything about it?

I don't know if it's a matter of positions anymore, tbh, after the Epic Noses got eliminated. It's been a matter of stuff happening, items being given, extra things being out there, at least for the past two night phases. Both D9 and D10 twist lynches give me that vibe of hidden extra stuff happening. This poll could mean something as well. Probably not a rezz. Probably not a message from the grave. But something. I don't think it can mean something if it stays in a four-way tie.

LET ME POST

linki: Players have to vote in Night polls.

[Marmot]

I support what you did Marmot. MP's salty tears are delicious...

And to be fair, it wasn't completely my fault. Partially sure, because I was basically AFK in that game after Day 4, but I played a solid game before that.

And lol, He'll have salt for year.

[Ricochet]

Matt is awfully quiet...


Sorsha, what option are you voting for tonight?

I don't know. I'm like, literally agonizing over it and it's probably not going to mean a thing.

Says the player who once got a poll amnesty out of it.

[MacDougall]

Yeah I have just been voting randomly the entire game. I've just been, you know, finding bad guys.

[FZ.]

Yeah I have just been voting randomly the entire game. I've just been, you know, finding bad guys.

Remind me again, why the person you said yesterday you were most sure was civ was motel room?

[MacDougall]

Yeah I have just been voting randomly the entire game. I've just been, you know, finding bad guys.

Remind me again, why the person you said yesterday you were most sure was civ was motel room?

Why do you keep asking questions that you know I cannot answer?

[Marmot]

It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.

I've done this much at least.

[MacDougall]

It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.

I've done this much at least.

Metalmarsh are you trying to claim civ now? You don't have to pretend you have our best interests at heart. You have got to the point where you're most likely to just win with either side so you should just stop pissing in our pocket.

[FZ.]

I'm just going to leave this out here for your enjoyment:

By asking you and Matthew questions I did I am trying to get a handle on the situation. And you're going to refuse to answer?

Lol I'm not refusing I just want your opinions.

Fine but if you don't follow it up I will shake my fist at you.

Here's where I'm at...

I believe I have deduced the civilian alignment of all but two players. Juliets and Metalmarsh. I can't elaborate on how but I can say that the one I am most certain of is Motel Room, especially in light of how yesterday went down. I am quite sure of Matt and FZ and by extension you. Bea, despite being wrong about Wilgy, I am sure is civilian because of LC related reasons. That one he definitely got right, he must have. I don't believe that there are 2 scum left. I believe there is 1. 2 wouldn't make any sense mathematically. I believe that it is far more likely to be Metalmarsh.

If I am wrong about the Marmot, juliets must be lynched tomorrow. I will be the most likely to be killed tonight if the game doesn't end with a Marmot lynch. If he is not the last bad guy it is without doubt juliets. Look back at her interactions with Zebra if you need to find a case but tbh it's primarily from deduction.

Linki: Lol there you go.

[MacDougall]

Metalmarsh the unlynchable neutral is a civ friendly role.

[Marmot]

I didn't play the Hobbit.

Okay, if there are two mafia left, I'd say Matt is one of them. I need to sleep.

Yeah you did. That was the crazy game where MP got lynched Day 1, and exposed 2 of his 3 teammates in the process, you and Elohcin, who were lynched on Day 2 and Day 3.

[MacDougall]

FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.

[Marmot]

It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.

I've done this much at least.

Metalmarsh are you trying to claim civ now? You don't have to pretend you have our best interests at heart. You have got to the point where you're most likely to just win with either side so you should just stop pissing in our pocket.

You tried to lynch me yesterday, and motel room, the counter lynch, you claimed was civ, flipped bad instead. Why the F are you still trying to cast shade on me?

Bring me an actual case please instead of pushing the fact that I'm neutral/Indy as if nobody has known at all this entire game.

[bea]

Rico - I will move my vote if it helps. Any prefernece?

Ugh, time to bring out an oldie.

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It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.

Dude. Chill. I am perfectly happy with my vote. You are the one saying we should have a definite leader in the poll. Since it was your concern, I asked your opinion.

[FZ.]

I didn't play the Hobbit.

Okay, if there are two mafia left, I'd say Matt is one of them. I need to sleep.

Yeah you did. That was the crazy game where MP got lynched Day 1, and exposed 2 of his 3 teammates in the process, you and Elohcin, who were lynched on Day 2 and Day 3.

Oh, that's a game I'm repressing, LOL. I blame MP :P

[MacDougall]

I'm just going to leave this out here for your enjoyment:

By asking you and Matthew questions I did I am trying to get a handle on the situation. And you're going to refuse to answer?

Lol I'm not refusing I just want your opinions.

Fine but if you don't follow it up I will shake my fist at you.

Here's where I'm at...

I believe I have deduced the civilian alignment of all but two players. Juliets and Metalmarsh. I can't elaborate on how but I can say that the one I am most certain of is Motel Room, especially in light of how yesterday went down. I am quite sure of Matt and FZ and by extension you. Bea, despite being wrong about Wilgy, I am sure is civilian because of LC related reasons. That one he definitely got right, he must have. I don't believe that there are 2 scum left. I believe there is 1. 2 wouldn't make any sense mathematically. I believe that it is far more likely to be Metalmarsh.

If I am wrong about the Marmot, juliets must be lynched tomorrow. I will be the most likely to be killed tonight if the game doesn't end with a Marmot lynch. If he is not the last bad guy it is without doubt juliets. Look back at her interactions with Zebra if you need to find a case but tbh it's primarily from deduction.

Linki: Lol there you go.

Do you think, that as scum, I would make such a gloriously incorrect post when I would at that point actually KNOW every single thing?

I think this post is about the civviest post in the game. So thanks for posting it.

[Marmot]

I'm just going to leave this out here for your enjoyment:

By asking you and Matthew questions I did I am trying to get a handle on the situation. And you're going to refuse to answer?

Lol I'm not refusing I just want your opinions.

Fine but if you don't follow it up I will shake my fist at you.

Here's where I'm at...

I believe I have deduced the civilian alignment of all but two players. Juliets and Metalmarsh. I can't elaborate on how but I can say that the one I am most certain of is Motel Room, especially in light of how yesterday went down. I am quite sure of Matt and FZ and by extension you. Bea, despite being wrong about Wilgy, I am sure is civilian because of LC related reasons. That one he definitely got right, he must have. I don't believe that there are 2 scum left. I believe there is 1. 2 wouldn't make any sense mathematically. I believe that it is far more likely to be Metalmarsh.

If I am wrong about the Marmot, juliets must be lynched tomorrow. I will be the most likely to be killed tonight if the game doesn't end with a Marmot lynch. If he is not the last bad guy it is without doubt juliets. Look back at her interactions with Zebra if you need to find a case but tbh it's primarily from deduction.

Linki: Lol there you go.

Do you think, that as scum, I would make such a gloriously incorrect post when I would at that point actually KNOW every single thing?

I think this post is about the civviest post in the game. So thanks for posting it.

If you expected me to get lynched instead of motel room, then absolutely yes I think you would.

[MacDougall]

It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.

I've done this much at least.

Metalmarsh are you trying to claim civ now? You don't have to pretend you have our best interests at heart. You have got to the point where you're most likely to just win with either side so you should just stop pissing in our pocket.

You tried to lynch me yesterday, and motel room, the counter lynch, you claimed was civ, flipped bad instead. Why the F are you still trying to cast shade on me?

Bring me an actual case please instead of pushing the fact that I'm neutral/Indy as if nobody has known at all this entire game.

I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.

There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?

[MacDougall]

I'm just going to leave this out here for your enjoyment:

By asking you and Matthew questions I did I am trying to get a handle on the situation. And you're going to refuse to answer?

Lol I'm not refusing I just want your opinions.

Fine but if you don't follow it up I will shake my fist at you.

Here's where I'm at...

I believe I have deduced the civilian alignment of all but two players. Juliets and Metalmarsh. I can't elaborate on how but I can say that the one I am most certain of is Motel Room, especially in light of how yesterday went down. I am quite sure of Matt and FZ and by extension you. Bea, despite being wrong about Wilgy, I am sure is civilian because of LC related reasons. That one he definitely got right, he must have. I don't believe that there are 2 scum left. I believe there is 1. 2 wouldn't make any sense mathematically. I believe that it is far more likely to be Metalmarsh.

If I am wrong about the Marmot, juliets must be lynched tomorrow. I will be the most likely to be killed tonight if the game doesn't end with a Marmot lynch. If he is not the last bad guy it is without doubt juliets. Look back at her interactions with Zebra if you need to find a case but tbh it's primarily from deduction.

Linki: Lol there you go.

Do you think, that as scum, I would make such a gloriously incorrect post when I would at that point actually KNOW every single thing?

I think this post is about the civviest post in the game. So thanks for posting it.

If you expected me to get lynched instead of motel room, then absolutely yes I think you would.

Well I did expect that to happen, on account of you having the most votes on the poll. I cannot argue with that.

[Sorsha]

I think I'm going to go with option 4. It seems like it's been one of our safe options all game, it's one that bea likes (and I think she's civ) and most importantly :P it's a LOST number.

[FZ.]

FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.

The difference is, you acted as if some night information that conveniently you can't discuss, helped you learn that Motel is civ, that I am one too, and so forth. Suddenly you're playing the "civvies can be wrong" card? How about civvies lying and making others believe they know something, and then saying the complete opposite?


linki: what MM said. You even made a plan for what will happen if MM comes out what he claims to be. Lynch Juliets

[MacDougall]

FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.

The difference is, you acted as if some night information that conveniently you can't discuss, helped you learn that Motel is civ, that I am one too, and so forth. Suddenly you're playing the "civvies can be wrong" card? How about civvies lying and making others believe they know something, and then saying the complete opposite?


linki: what MM said. You even made a plan for what will happen if MM comes out what he claims to be. Lynch Juliets

[Marmot]

I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.

There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?

That's a convenient suggestion since you are doing the opposite. :P

But no, I don't think they would be that obvious. Not unless they felt they had absolutely nothing else to get them a win, and they definitely wouldn't do it in the night phase, especially if for whatever reason their kill fails.

[Ricochet]

I think I'm going to go with option 4. It seems like it's been one of our safe options all game, it's one that bea likes (and I think she's civ) and most importantly :P it's a LOST number.

If Ninja actually gets rezzed or sends a message or something of that sort, I'm holding you and bea responsible if civs and if civs gain no advantage whatsoever through this night poll and lose the game.

[MacDougall]

I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.

There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?

That's a convenient suggestion since you are doing the opposite. :P

But no, I don't think they would be that obvious. Not unless they felt they had absolutely nothing else to get them a win, and they definitely wouldn't do it in the night phase, especially if for whatever reason their kill fails.

Okay well I'm all out of defenses then. Sorry I let y'all down civvies.

[FZ.]

FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.

The difference is, you acted as if some night information that conveniently you can't discuss, helped you learn that Motel is civ, that I am one too, and so forth. Suddenly you're playing the "civvies can be wrong" card? How about civvies lying and making others believe they know something, and then saying the complete opposite?


linki: what MM said. You even made a plan for what will happen if MM comes out what he claims to be. Lynch Juliets

So you don't think MM is bad, just that he doesn't care who wins. You're not interested in lynching an actual baddie but rather rely on lynching MM, and all you can do to defend yourself is shrug. Yeah, nice job of convincing me you're good.

[MacDougall]

FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.

The difference is, you acted as if some night information that conveniently you can't discuss, helped you learn that Motel is civ, that I am one too, and so forth. Suddenly you're playing the "civvies can be wrong" card? How about civvies lying and making others believe they know something, and then saying the complete opposite?


linki: what MM said. You even made a plan for what will happen if MM comes out what he claims to be. Lynch Juliets

So you don't think MM is bad, just that he doesn't care who wins. You're not interested in lynching an actual baddie but rather rely on lynching MM, and all you can do to defend yourself is shrug. Yeah, nice job of convincing me you're good.

Where did I say we should lynch Metalmarsh?

[FZ.]

Bea, you're not contributing anything to the discussion other than the night poll. Any thoughts on what is going on? You're worrying me. So is Matt.

linki" who should we lynch? Me? Ah, okay, that convinces me you're good then. Thanks...

[Ricochet]

I say keep lynching MM until all the remaining baddies get lynched instead.

[MacDougall]

Ahhh epiphany... FZ and Matt are responsible for misleading me through scum role shenanigans and are now bringing out all the instances of me perpetuating their lies into the thread and have me on the ropes in the twelfth round. Very well played guys. They will sing songs of you in Mafia halls nationwide.

[FZ.]

Ahhh epiphany... FZ and Matt are responsible for misleading me through scum role shenanigans and are now bringing out all the instances of me perpetuating their lies into the thread and have me on the ropes in the twelfth round. Very well played guys. They will sing songs of you in Mafia halls nationwide.

[MacDougall]

FZ I don't need to convince you, I need to convince the remaining civilian who isn't killed tonight, whoever that may be. I am hoping it's bea. And I hope Metalmarsh flips a coin and chooses to vote the way I do. But I realise my situation is pretty much dire and congratulate the scum for tricking me so well.

[Marmot]

I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.

There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?

That's a convenient suggestion since you are doing the opposite. :P

But no, I don't think they would be that obvious. Not unless they felt they had absolutely nothing else to get them a win, and they definitely wouldn't do it in the night phase, especially if for whatever reason their kill fails.

Okay well I'm all out of defenses then. Sorry I let y'all down civvies.

If you are the civilian you claim to be, and you admit that your alignment claims for other players are not accurate, I think you should reconsider your reads on Matt, Sorsha, and bea.

Assuming there are two baddies left, who do you think they are?

[MacDougall]

Ahhh epiphany... FZ and Matt are responsible for misleading me through scum role shenanigans and are now bringing out all the instances of me perpetuating their lies into the thread and have me on the ropes in the twelfth round. Very well played guys. They will sing songs of you in Mafia halls nationwide.

That's not very nice.

[Marmot]

I say keep lynching MM until all the remaining baddies get lynched instead.

Hardie-har-har

[Marmot]

Ah, I see you answerd my question in linki. I think...

[MacDougall]

I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.

There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?

That's a convenient suggestion since you are doing the opposite. :P

But no, I don't think they would be that obvious. Not unless they felt they had absolutely nothing else to get them a win, and they definitely wouldn't do it in the night phase, especially if for whatever reason their kill fails.

Okay well I'm all out of defenses then. Sorry I let y'all down civvies.

If you are the civilian you claim to be, and you admit that your alignment claims for other players are not accurate, I think you should reconsider your reads on Matt, Sorsha, and bea.

Assuming there are two baddies left, who do you think they are?

FZ and Matt. I think I figured it out but my reason for it is going to be too hard for anybody to believe so meh.

[S~V~S]

Just an FYI, I am just getting home and need to go through the PMs. The post may be a few minutes late, and/or it may be kinda lame.

[FZ.]

I'm done. This is just ridiculous. I don't know what to say any more.

[Marmot]

Just an FYI, I am just getting home and need to go through the PMs. The post may be a few minutes late, and/or it may be kinda lame.

Rico dies. All the other champions win. Party time, and we will make omelets!!!

[Ricochet]

Just an FYI, I am just getting home and need to go through the PMs. The post may be a few minutes late, and/or it may be kinda lame.

Is the Noses' kill inherited? Will we just find out in a short while? Please and thank you.

linki: Baka!

[MacDougall]

Of course not.

[MacDougall]

Ricochet you're the one who has done ISOs. Can you see the possibility of an FZ, Matt, Motel, Wilgy team?

[Marmot]

FZ and Matt. I think I figured it out but my reason for it is going to be too hard for anybody to believe so meh.

If you're not going to say it, then this is basically no reason.

Linki: actually Mac, it's pretty standard here for one mafia team to inherit the other's kill in a game like this.

[MacDougall]

FZ I don't need to convince you, I need to convince the remaining civilian who isn't killed tonight, whoever that may be. I am hoping it's bea. And I hope Metalmarsh flips a coin and chooses to vote the way I do. But I realise my situation is pretty much dire and congratulate the scum for tricking me so well.

I did say it Metalmarsh.

[MacDougall]

FZ and Matt. I think I figured it out but my reason for it is going to be too hard for anybody to believe so meh.

If you're not going to say it, then this is basically no reason.

Linki: actually Mac, it's pretty standard here for one mafia team to inherit the other's kill in a game like this.

I was saying of course not to FZ.