Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

#7801

Good game MacDougall. You performed admirably.

Ricochet, that role was in llama's Oblique Strategies, Brian Eno Mafia.

#7802

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Can't tell if bea committed suicide or if the remaining baddie is Matt. If someone out there can still block or do something relateable, do it to Matt.

linki: Is that an Islam Psalm?
I really don't think it's Matt at this point. Gotta be bea.

Based on severe Wilgys defending, I would agree.

Was Oblique Strategies a Llama game as well?

linki: oh ok.

#7803

MacDougall wrote:Oh well hopefully bea is this ahriman character I keep hearing so much about and magically has 3 extra votes. Then we'll soon be talking about civ MVP bea.

No mvp. Sadly no extra votes. I did try in my own way though. Won't know till the end if it was ever actually useful.

I'm sorry mac. I really do believe we shouldn't lynch you.

#7804

bea wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Oh well hopefully bea is this ahriman character I keep hearing so much about and magically has 3 extra votes. Then we'll soon be talking about civ MVP bea.
No mvp. Sadly no extra votes. I did try in my own way though. Won't know till the end if it was ever actually useful. I'm sorry mac. I really do believe we shouldn't lynch you.

#7805

This night poll makes me want to vote as well.

Though neither my favourite role or favourite game are in there. A close second is, though.

linki: mother of god

BEA FAST-FORWARD TO REAL TIME

#7806

Mother sonof a grrrrrr......

#7807

iT'S too much, I'm dying of laughtre

#7808

I got his job right though. Just effed his allignment. Shit. That sucks.

#7809

bea wrote:I got his job right though. Just effed his allignment. Shit. That sucks.

Yeah, so did he re: motel. Aka his teammate.

You are dying tomorrow and we are winning.

#7810

Don't kill me tonight, please and thanks.

#7811

"I'm sorry, post-revealed baddie Mac, I did all I could."

Still laughing.

#7812

I'm ok with dying. I've played shit. You won't win tomorrow because I'm not bad, but I don't deserve to win anyway. So yea.

#7813

I'd like to see a Mafia concede for once on this website. It's common practice everywhere else, when they're beyond dun goofed.

Do it, bea! Don't let your dreams be dreams.

#7814

Ricochet wrote:I'd like to see a Mafia concede for once on this website. It's common practice everywhere else, when they're beyond dun goofed.

Do it, bea! Don't let your dreams be dreams.

I don't think I've ever seen such a thing. At least not the final baddie. I've seen others give up and shut up early in the game.

#7815

bea wrote:I'm ok with dying. I've played shit. You won't win tomorrow because I'm not bad, but I don't deserve to win anyway. So yea.

"I'm not bad / civs will lose if they lynch me"

How did that line of defense work out for the following:

Dr. Wilgys
motel room
MacDougall

Please.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I'd like to see a Mafia concede for once on this website. It's common practice everywhere else, when they're beyond dun goofed.

Do it, bea! Don't let your dreams be dreams.
I don't think I've ever seen such a thing. At least not the final baddie. I've seen others give up and shut up early in the game.

Teen Wolf Mafia conceded in JTM with two baddies left. Granted, the team was beyond saving, midway through.

Doesn't mean we can't have a first.

#7816

DharmaHelper wrote:Pslam 71:20

Please stop posting in the thread Team Fail.

#7817

I didn't say civs would lose. I said civs won't win because of my lynch. I'm not bad. If you lynch me the game continues. And that's fine.

#7818

I've only played AWR so I guess I'll vote that one.

#7819

bea wrote:I didn't say civs would lose. I said civs won't win because of my lynch. I'm not bad. If you lynch me the game continues. And that's fine.

How would the game continue in a civ - newt - baddie formula, after lynching you.

#7820

You get lucky and the newt votes with the civ.

Look I'm stuck by the short hairs here. I can't defend against being patently wrong about literally everyone I trusted (lc ironically being the only one I put my trust in correctly. ) I thought dh was civ. I was wrong. I thought drac was civ. I was wrong. I thought wigly was civ. I was wrong. I thought Mac was civ and I was wrong.

I had reasons that hard hard for me to express without rule breaking. I'm boned regardless of what happens at this point. When you see my role you will cry. Then when you see how I got to where I did you will laugh even harder at me than you did just a bit ago. Queen nub is ever present.

#7821

bea wrote:You get lucky and the newt votes with the civ.

Look I'm stuck by the short hairs here. I can't defend against being patently wrong about literally everyone I trusted (lc ironically being the only one I put my trust in correctly. ) I thought dh was civ. I was wrong. I thought drac was civ. I was wrong. I thought wigly was civ. I was wrong. I thought Mac was civ and I was wrong.

I had reasons that hard hard for me to express without rule breaking. I'm boned regardless of what happens at this point. When you see my role you will cry. Then when you see how I got to where I did you will laugh even harder at me than you did just a bit ago. Queen nub is ever present.

I've been voting and helping lynch baddies for the past 4 day phases.

You and Mac both seem to have this thing in common where you don't exhibit any trust in me.

#7822

Look. I have no doubt that if the remaining baddie doesn't put me out of my misery tonight, I sure as shit will be lynched tomorrow.

I'm not so stupid as to think I'm actually going to live. Rico asked me how I saw a civ win happen and I answered. It wasn't based in trust or distust. Just simplicity.

I will die soon and you will end up being the one who decides which remaining person wins. The civ or the baddie.

#7823

RIH Mac.

Okay, so one baddie left. I obvi think Sorsha is good to go, and I'm coming around on Marsh. So bea or FZ, and I'm thinking bea.

Btw Rico, it's not your fault that you don't know this, but for you to ask for my block tonight is effing hilarious. Prepare to be dazzled by your insight at endgame.

#7824

I am going to shut up about the results of the lynch. So many bad words come to mind

Well played Mac!

bea wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Oh well hopefully bea is this ahriman character I keep hearing so much about and magically has 3 extra votes. Then we'll soon be talking about civ MVP bea.
No mvp. Sadly no extra votes. I did try in my own way though. Won't know till the end if it was ever actually useful. I'm sorry mac. I really do believe we shouldn't lynch you.

Am I the only one who thinks Bea's post lynch defense of Mac was intentional? This reeks of trying to make it look like she thought there is no way he would come out bad and didn't even look at the results before posting it, when in fact, she did.

#7825

Matt wrote:
Btw Rico, it's not your fault that you don't know this, but for you to ask for my block tonight is effing hilarious. Prepare to be dazzled by your insight at endgame.

#7826

FZ. wrote: I am going to shut up about the results of the lynch. So many bad words come to mind Well played Mac!

bea wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Oh well hopefully bea is this ahriman character I keep hearing so much about and magically has 3 extra votes. Then we'll soon be talking about civ MVP bea.
No mvp. Sadly no extra votes. I did try in my own way though. Won't know till the end if it was ever actually useful. I'm sorry mac. I really do believe we shouldn't lynch you.
Am I the only one who thinks Bea's post lynch defense of Mac was intentional? This reeks of trying to make it look like she thought there is no way he would come out bad and didn't even look at the results before posting it, when in fact, she did.

No. I think everyone who lives tomorrow is going to end up voting bea tbh.

#7827

I didn't mean about suspecting her, but that the specific post did not come from someone who didn't know the results were already there. It was a nice attempt to make it look like she really believed he was bad. Too bad she couldn't sell it.

The only thing that still bothers me is how LC is related to all this. Did he honestly trust all the wrong people, or was he bad himself somehow (recruited or whatever)

#7828

Well Mac had a Protecting role. That normally comes with a civ. Maybe it's things like that made LC trust people he shouldn't have.

#7829

bea did retroactive reading and quoting before, to the point of wondering what's the deal with replying to posts from a phase that already concluded, if that's what you're wondering, FZ.

#7830

I just now saw that Mac's role was protect. Am I being paranoid here when thinking the option of Sorsha being targeted and protected by the same people is not that far fetched?

#7831

Meh, I don't know. Sorsha doesn't really feel bad to me, and Matt is vouching for her, and Bea really does seem like the natural option here.

#7832

FYI, I will attempt one final push for some post analysis later this afternoon and evening, to see what comes up, now that the second team picture is almost complete (Wilgy, motel, Mac). No guarantees, though, just saying I'll do my best.

BTW, don't know how it must have been for JJJ, but right now I'm feeling like I'm on the Hillary Step.

linki: Is it's Mac and Sorsha, could Mac have protected and targeted Sorsha? Could Mac have protected and Sorsha target herself?

Also, why would a two-baddie team delay (or even compromise) their odds of winning, by messing with a night kill? As bea said, their failed night kill enabled for us another day, if not two. Them sending a successful night kill would have instead sent us into virtual lylo yesterDay. I feel a bit like Epignosis saying this, but mafia's objective is to kill, not perform mindtricks.

#7833

Ricochet wrote:FYI, I will attempt one final push for some post analysis later this afternoon and evening, to see what comes up, now that the second team picture is almost complete (Wilgy, motel, Mac). No guarantees, though, just saying I'll do my best.

BTW, don't know how it must have been for JJJ, but right now I'm feeling like I'm on the Hillary Step.

linki: Is it's Mac and Sorsha, could Mac have protected and targeted Sorsha? Could Mac have protected and Sorsha target herself?

Also, why would a two-baddie team delay (or even compromise) their odds of winning, by messing with a night kill? As bea said, their failed night kill enabled for us another day, if not two. Them sending a successful night kill would have instead sent us into virtual lylo yesterDay. I feel a bit like Epignosis saying this, but mafia's objective is to kill, not perform mindtricks.

I tend to agree, and Bea still looks the worst. Like I said, I think she started out by voting Mac because she thought it would make her look better and she could survive this, and then when it became clearer that these are the two last baddies, she changed it to Matt in a last attempt to save Mac. That's the obvious solution.
That said, if you think you're going down and you want your last baddie to survive until the end, what better way than to fake them being targeted and saved. At this point, it would definitely imply that the person is civ because there is no other team that could try to kill. So if you think about it, the last person to be voted for at this stage, is Sorsha. Therefore, that would be a brilliant plan.
But while I type it, I don't think it's true, LOL. This game is just messing with my mind.

#7834

It's oh so quiet shhh shhh

#7835

Ricochet wrote:I feel a bit like Epignosis saying this, but mafia's objective is to kill, not perform mindtricks.

Unless your name is Yagami Light, in which case this is your job.

#7836

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I feel a bit like Epignosis saying this, but mafia's objective is to kill, not perform mindtricks.
Unless your name is Yagami Light, in which case this is your job.

Shall I just say I get the joke or shall I say I don't get the joke?

#7837

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I feel a bit like Epignosis saying this, but mafia's objective is to kill, not perform mindtricks.
Unless your name is Yagami Light, in which case this is your job.
Shall I just say I get the joke or shall I say I don't get the joke?

I was being serious.

#7838

#7839

FZ. wrote:
Ricochet wrote:FYI, I will attempt one final push for some post analysis later this afternoon and evening, to see what comes up, now that the second team picture is almost complete (Wilgy, motel, Mac). No guarantees, though, just saying I'll do my best.

BTW, don't know how it must have been for JJJ, but right now I'm feeling like I'm on the Hillary Step.

linki: Is it's Mac and Sorsha, could Mac have protected and targeted Sorsha? Could Mac have protected and Sorsha target herself?

Also, why would a two-baddie team delay (or even compromise) their odds of winning, by messing with a night kill? As bea said, their failed night kill enabled for us another day, if not two. Them sending a successful night kill would have instead sent us into virtual lylo yesterDay. I feel a bit like Epignosis saying this, but mafia's objective is to kill, not perform mindtricks.
I tend to agree, and Bea still looks the worst. Like I said, I think she started out by voting Mac because she thought it would make her look better and she could survive this, and then when it became clearer that these are the two last baddies, she changed it to Matt in a last attempt to save Mac. That's the obvious solution.
That said, if you think you're going down and you want your last baddie to survive until the end, what better way than to fake them being targeted and saved. At this point, it would definitely imply that the person is civ because there is no other team that could try to kill. So if you think about it, the last person to be voted for at this stage, is Sorsha. Therefore, that would be a brilliant plan.
But while I type it, I don't think it's true, LOL. This game is just messing with my mind.

I thought mac was the protector. I thought the protector was civ. It alligned with both is in thread behavior and what I knew from out of the thread. So yes, I tried to save mac. Because I thought keeping a civ protector alive was important. I was wrong.

I wasn't faking knowing the outcome. I was responding to things as I read them. I was unware of the time and that the flip had occurred as I was sneaking reads in on my phone at work while cutting pizzas on one of the biggest business days of our work year. on the flip side - no more football!!! wooohooo!!! done with the madness till september!

LC was right to trust me. I just played a suck game. I know there is no way to avoid my lynch tomorrow and I don't have a lot to say in my defense. Were anyone else in the position I'm in now, I'd feel as sure as anything of lynching them. It's really frustrating, btw, to be in this position so close to the end. Not because I want to win. I don't deserve to win. But because I don't want the civs to loose because of me.

#7840

Long Con wrote:

#7841

FZ - I normally wouldn't rule out what you're suggesting in regards to Sorsha and her protect. In fact, I always like theories like this because I feel "why wouldn't the Mafia do something like that for major cred?" But I think you're barking up the wrong tree here.

#7842

Also, I didn't play any of the other games, but even if I had, AWR is my favorite mafia game of all time.

#7843

S~V~S wrote:Mac has been lynched.

He was:
Spoiler: show
An Arc of Doves, Oblique Strategies,BADDIE: Protect

#7844

I only played death note on that list.

#7845

I voted Biblical. Death note was a great game but very very frustrating to me. Bullets over Broadway was also fun but I replaced someone and then got NK pretty early, so I don't remember mcuh. I didn't play the others. The Biblical one was my first sock game, and even though I was lynched as a civ, which doesn't happen often, it was loads of fun

#7846

bea wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Ricochet wrote:FYI, I will attempt one final push for some post analysis later this afternoon and evening, to see what comes up, now that the second team picture is almost complete (Wilgy, motel, Mac). No guarantees, though, just saying I'll do my best.

BTW, don't know how it must have been for JJJ, but right now I'm feeling like I'm on the Hillary Step.

linki: Is it's Mac and Sorsha, could Mac have protected and targeted Sorsha? Could Mac have protected and Sorsha target herself?

Also, why would a two-baddie team delay (or even compromise) their odds of winning, by messing with a night kill? As bea said, their failed night kill enabled for us another day, if not two. Them sending a successful night kill would have instead sent us into virtual lylo yesterDay. I feel a bit like Epignosis saying this, but mafia's objective is to kill, not perform mindtricks.
I tend to agree, and Bea still looks the worst. Like I said, I think she started out by voting Mac because she thought it would make her look better and she could survive this, and then when it became clearer that these are the two last baddies, she changed it to Matt in a last attempt to save Mac. That's the obvious solution.
That said, if you think you're going down and you want your last baddie to survive until the end, what better way than to fake them being targeted and saved. At this point, it would definitely imply that the person is civ because there is no other team that could try to kill. So if you think about it, the last person to be voted for at this stage, is Sorsha. Therefore, that would be a brilliant plan.
But while I type it, I don't think it's true, LOL. This game is just messing with my mind.
I thought mac was the protector. I thought the protector was civ. It alligned with both is in thread behavior and what I knew from out of the thread. So yes, I tried to save mac. Because I thought keeping a civ protector alive was important. I was wrong.

I wasn't faking knowing the outcome. I was responding to things as I read them. I was unware of the time and that the flip had occurred as I was sneaking reads in on my phone at work while cutting pizzas on one of the biggest business days of our work year. on the flip side - no more football!!! wooohooo!!! done with the madness till september!

LC was right to trust me. I just played a suck game. I know there is no way to avoid my lynch tomorrow and I don't have a lot to say in my defense. Were anyone else in the position I'm in now, I'd feel as sure as anything of lynching them. It's really frustrating, btw, to be in this position so close to the end. Not because I want to win. I don't deserve to win. But because I don't want the civs to loose because of me.

I would normally probably fall for your defense, but process of elimination is not leaving me any options but you. Still, I think you played a very good game. I trusted you most of it.

#7847

^Remind me, please, why or for what Matt passes the elimination test.

#7848

Frankly of those on the list that I played in I seriously loved them all.

It doesn't hurt that I was still playing in very close endgames in three of them.

#7849

Golden wrote:Frankly of those on the list that I played in I seriously loved them all.

It doesn't hurt that I was still playing in very close endgames in three of them.

And won two of them.

Then again, my record is 100%, based on two games. Non-civvie in both.

Did not play the other three.

#7850

Ricochet wrote:^Remind me, please, why or for what Matt passes the elimination test.

I just feel this way. I think I trust him. Can't really explain it. Not to mention I think he was the first one to come out of the day before and say Mac is bad. He could have let people discuss other options and see where the wind was blowing, but in his post, Mac was the prime suspect. I think he's good.

linki: Golden, who were you on Biblical? Weren't you responsible for lynching me?

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

Full Games	Civilian: Mafia: Independent:
Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
Special Games	Civilian: Independent:

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