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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Quin, you're not a lynch I would favor in the next day phase. If you name me a gun-to-head cop team (every remaining baddie alive), that will be of interest to me. The same goes for anyone really, though certain people's lists might mean less.
I won't name my own list until I have some participation.
I won't name my own list until I have some participation.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
At this point we just need to identify the whole team, because one more mislynch at any point might end the game.
Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I'll participate.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Quin, you're not a lynch I would favor in the next day phase. If you name me a gun-to-head cop team (every remaining baddie alive), that will be of interest to me. The same goes for anyone really, though certain people's lists might mean less.
I won't name my own list until I have some participation.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
If 5:
Chaindeath
Elochin
Dom
Epi
Nero
If 4: Remove Nero/whichever of Dom/Elo replaced Serge. Will need to do more research.
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If 4: Remove Nero/whichever of Dom/Elo replaced Serge. Will need to do more research.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Perhaps Epi is bd and specifically recruited his wife to join him.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
There are a LOT of if/when's involved, so forgive me if you think there's some discrepancy in here. I'll elaborate as much as you need. I'll likely have an update when night ends because everyone is connected in some way in my mind.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Quin, you're not a lynch I would favor in the next day phase. If you name me a gun-to-head cop team (every remaining baddie alive), that will be of interest to me. The same goes for anyone really, though certain people's lists might mean less.
I won't name my own list until I have some participation.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I think I just triggered a death flag.
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Whaddya mean?Quin wrote:I think I just triggered a death flag.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
People who promise information at night are more likely to be killed, from my experience.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Whaddya mean?Quin wrote:I think I just triggered a death flag.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
If the other prisoners have been serving their time effectively there's a chance we'll be seeing them again on Day 9. In case I'm not here at that point and there is another paroling phase, I leave the following advice:
First and foremost, you're safe with 920077. If the ratios are as dire as the appear for town, it might be necessary to try to parole someone who was already lynched and flipped town. I'm not sure exactly how you can tell who is who assuming they follow the rules, but it's worth the effort to try. I would recommend against paroling anyone who is a higher-probability seemer prospect, such as DDL or ika (if you can distinguish them in their prisoner forms). If you can find Golden, or one of the night arrest targets like indiglo, that would be ideal.
First and foremost, you're safe with 920077. If the ratios are as dire as the appear for town, it might be necessary to try to parole someone who was already lynched and flipped town. I'm not sure exactly how you can tell who is who assuming they follow the rules, but it's worth the effort to try. I would recommend against paroling anyone who is a higher-probability seemer prospect, such as DDL or ika (if you can distinguish them in their prisoner forms). If you can find Golden, or one of the night arrest targets like indiglo, that would be ideal.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
How would that make you feel?Quin wrote:People who promise information at night are more likely to be killed, from my experience.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Whaddya mean?Quin wrote:I think I just triggered a death flag.
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Er. Bad, I guess.Prisoner 509378 wrote:How would that make you feel?Quin wrote:People who promise information at night are more likely to be killed, from my experience.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Whaddya mean?Quin wrote:I think I just triggered a death flag.
If you're asking for a more game-centered point of view, I think that scum are likely coming to the realisation that lynching me is going to be harder than anticipated. It's not the most unlikely scenario that they'll arrest me soon.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Remaining cops:
chaindeath
Nerolunar
sig
Soneji
I am banking on the seemer being eliminated just on probability. If not, this becomes significantly more difficult. The next two names I am considering are Dom and Elohcin, but neither of those cases thrills me. If I'm wrong about Quin then I'm probably going to take that mistake with me to the grave at this point. I can still perhaps see a viable pairing of sig with Epignosis, so that's something to consider moving forward too. I am not interested in voting for Scotty, Sloonei, Turnip Head, Black Rock, or S~V~S.
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Nerolunar
sig
Soneji
I am banking on the seemer being eliminated just on probability. If not, this becomes significantly more difficult. The next two names I am considering are Dom and Elohcin, but neither of those cases thrills me. If I'm wrong about Quin then I'm probably going to take that mistake with me to the grave at this point. I can still perhaps see a viable pairing of sig with Epignosis, so that's something to consider moving forward too. I am not interested in voting for Scotty, Sloonei, Turnip Head, Black Rock, or S~V~S.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Quin, are you maintaining a perspective that Black Rock and S~V~S should not be attached at the hip? I struggle to see any logical scenario in which they're not on the same team -- whether as cops or townies.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I really don't know. I stand by my claim that on her own, Black Rock looks bad. She doesn't look half as bad as she did before Boomslang was lynched, though.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Quin, are you maintaining a perspective that Black Rock and S~V~S should not be attached at the hip? I struggle to see any logical scenario in which they're not on the same team -- whether as cops or townies.
She definitely does looks better when she's paired with SVS, since she's practically claiming 'Hey, we've got BTSC'. Looking at it this way, I think they are clearly on the same team. As I wrote this, I remembered how Black Rock blindly defended Long Con when he was lynched. I took it as a blind faith that she could read his alignment, but there could be more to it.
I don't even know how well that answered the question. I feel like talking about it is helping me out, I'd probably take Black Rock off my list and replace her with Epignosis.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
How would you describe your feelings about the case against sig?
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Okay, no. Black Rock, SVS and Long Con are a trio.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
If the undercover cop is still alive I'll be surprised. I don't know which deadrrested player it would be, but the I doubt 5 of you are cops.
I don't know who to name as my 4 suspects at the moment. I'll read up a bit and sleep on it. Sorry I was invisible this phase. I was busy and didn't have much to say anyway.
I don't know who to name as my 4 suspects at the moment. I'll read up a bit and sleep on it. Sorry I was invisible this phase. I was busy and didn't have much to say anyway.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
There's something unique about the way I'm reading Epignosis that I think works in his favor. It's centered around me though, which means the potential for bias is heightened. Hopefully someone else can share their thoughts on it. I think the progression of how he has handled my continued survival reads authentically:
Initially he suggested I would/should be a very easy choice for the cops to arrest/kill because I am a "free square" -- a player with zero chance of being lynched who has voting power. I am unique in this regard; most Mafia games never feature someone who is in my position.
He maintained this perspective through my survival of Night 7, which I think is important at least in that it shows a consistency in my survival being relevant to his general mindset. Moving forward:
Continuing into Day 8, he was still thinking about it -- long enough that he found a potential answer to his own question.
His answer to his own question is above. In this progression of posts we can see Epignosis observing something in the game thread (my continued survival), questioning the sense of that fact, and working his way to an answer that he had to find after some time spent investigating/deliberating for himself. This is obviously an effort which would not be necessary if he is a cop and already knows the answer. I do grant, of course, that this progression is one that could be faked. I think it would be highly creative though, to the point that I find myself doubting that it was deliberately cooked over the course of numerous real-time days of game time just for the sole purpose of making him look better to me. Epignosis is a clever fellow, but that sounds like a reach to me. For this reason I read the progression as authentic.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I'm writing up my thoughts on sig, fyi. It's just taking a while to put my thoughts to words.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Another question for you, Quin, while you work (this won't require much thought):
S~V~S and I have a bet going about your alignment. Am I going to have to bear the humiliation of my failure in my signature for an entire game because of you?
S~V~S and I have a bet going about your alignment. Am I going to have to bear the humiliation of my failure in my signature for an entire game because of you?
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I was going to comment on this. What do I get out of this? I think the loser should like, kiss my feet or something.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Another question for you, Quin, while you work (this won't require much thought):
S~V~S and I have a bet going about your alignment. Am I going to have to bear the humiliation of my failure in my signature for an entire game because of you?
The odds for you look good, Prisoner.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Please try to get a list out before the night phase ends.Sloonei wrote:If the undercover cop is still alive I'll be surprised. I don't know which deadrrested player it would be, but the I doubt 5 of you are cops.
I don't know who to name as my 4 suspects at the moment. I'll read up a bit and sleep on it. Sorry I was invisible this phase. I was busy and didn't have much to say anyway.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
To make this easier, I may as well just give you an updated list of who I'd lynch including all of the people still alive. That'll get everything out in the open and give me more to talk about. I'll omit you, since you're pretty much confirmed indie. The rest is in order of who I'd lynch, in order.Prisoner 509378 wrote:How would you describe your feelings about the case against sig?
chaindeath
Nerolunar
Scotty
elohcin
Epignosis
sig
Dom
Soneji
I also decided to omit Sloonei, Turnip, Black Rock and SVS because I've been able to make comfortable guesses as to their roles as civs. Those four also have a good standing with pretty much everyone else, so it feels good to do this.
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If we talk about the case about sig, I guess we do need to talk about EoD2. I hate the idea of this, because everything he did, I did, so saying that it makes sig look bad makes me look worse. Maybe this bias is reflected in my list. You tell me. I'll only quote things I want to talk about specifically, the rest is pretty clear.
1) I don't see anything bad in this 'scum save' claim. He throws what could have come to be a significant amount of shade at Epi here, if we had taken that route. I haven't played long with sig, but I don't see him as a busser. I'll see where my thoughts go as I keep reading up on sig's posts, but right now I'd say that at if any, only one of the two are a policeman.Spoiler: show
2) Part of the case is that sig's posts around the same time were highly manipulative. I dig that. But at the same time, it doesn't look bad. I think he was confused, thought something was off, and tried to persuade people not to do the thing.
3) I would call it different to how I felt about ika or Soneji, but I feel as though sig has been incredibly flimsy in his view on me all game. There are quite a few posts I could quote to showcase this, but you can just ISO him and filter in my name, you'll find them in no time. A whole lot of his interactions with me are fluff. Looking further, he's got me painted as a nice town read, but with nearly all of those posts he's also sliding in a subtle bit of doubt or a willingness to see me as scum.
4) This is a less noted area of significance. sig was partly responsible for every mislynch up until Turnip was supposed to be lynched. SVS doesn't cover Day 1, but sig voted for Diiny as well. It is very interesting how this pattern stopped as soon as this post was made by SVS.Spoiler: show
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If there's anything more you'd like your opinion on, let me have it. But I think sig has dropped into my top 5.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I'm glad you touched on sig's treatment of you, Quin. That's perhaps the most interesting thing to me, because the cases against you two have a lot of similarities. Your treatment of each other should thus be rather telling. I'm going to look at sig now with that as my focus.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I'm focusing specifically on sig's interactions with Quin because of what I said in my prior post.
More specifically about Quin, sig insinuates he'd be an easy lynch (along with himself and Boomrique [town]). I don't think that's meaningful.
Perhaps sig used his kinship with Quin as cohorts in the anti-CFD movement to build momentum in the LC mislynch.
sig dissociates himself from Quin. It's apparent though that sig's intent here was self-defense rather than defending Quin. "I'm a good guy, safe town trusted, please love me. Quin -- I don't know about him man, maybe you should check him out."
He does lend Quin a little defensive support here, but always with the emphasis that they're not team mates. This can be viewed as a self-serving defense as much as a genuine defense of Quin.
Similarly soft defense of Quin in response to Golden accusation
At least in this case sig lends some defense without attaching the insistence of dissociation.
The bond is severed.
They could have been such good bros. For one thing I don't think these two are on a team together at the very least. sig constantly washed his hands of the Quin Problem in a way that suggests he didn't oppose it but nor did he want to drive it. That kind of bystander approach is not what I'd expect from a team mate -- it'd be opportunism.
This seems to contrast starkly with the previous post. He grants his error, but that might have been more than just a contextual goof.
Now Quin's his bro again.
Now Quin's not his bro anymore. He's his #4 baddie read. My head is spinning. This reads like a guy who knows it makes no sense for him to suspect Quin, but he doesn't want to remove him from the suspect pool -- that's convenience and opportunism.
His very next post paints Quin in a positive light before devolving into a major waffle. sig has no idea what do with Quin.
I also highlighted an adverb. This might be a rare instance in which I agree with Epignosis's method -- that adverb looks bad because it completely devalues the positivity of the post for Quin.
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This is horrific. Death to sig.
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Similarly soft defense of Quin in response to Golden accusation
At least in this case sig lends some defense without attaching the insistence of dissociation.
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I also highlighted an adverb. This might be a rare instance in which I agree with Epignosis's method -- that adverb looks bad because it completely devalues the positivity of the post for Quin.
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This is horrific. Death to sig.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
To review:
I don't think sig and Quin are both cops. That would make very little sense to me. I think sig is much more likely to be a cop than Quin. Thus, I think Quin is town.
Soneji staunchly defended sig in the face of Epi's most recent case, and then he supported my fake case against Epi. Soneji is sig's team mate.
I don't think sig and Quin are both cops. That would make very little sense to me. I think sig is much more likely to be a cop than Quin. Thus, I think Quin is town.
Soneji staunchly defended sig in the face of Epi's most recent case, and then he supported my fake case against Epi. Soneji is sig's team mate.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I'm motivated again. The hell with Boomslang. There are enough people left to trust that the baddies cannot hide. It's over, cops. Die die die.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
With all of this now in mind, who is the mafia team?Prisoner 509378 wrote:To review:
I don't think sig and Quin are both cops. That would make very little sense to me. I think sig is much more likely to be a cop than Quin. Thus, I think Quin is town.
Soneji staunchly defended sig in the face of Epi's most recent case, and then he supported my fake case against Epi. Soneji is sig's team mate.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I think my prior list holds.
chaindeath and Nerolunar make interesting team mates too because of Nero's "efforts" to get chaindeath lynched. chaindeath is the only player to appear consistently in Nero's ISO, and he appears constantly. That alone represents some manner of link between them. Nero's case against chain has always been pretty hollow, but he has expressed it with a very strong degree of confidence. It sounds like he already knows chaindeath's alignment. I also think he's realized that the "pressure" he has been putting on chaindeath was never likely to result in his lynch. It reads as coordinated distancing/bussing from a player who would favor that method. There's really no reason that Nero's post history should be so completely focused on chaindeath -- chain hasn't done enough in this game to warrant that kind of attention.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Remaining cops:
chaindeath
Nerolunar
sig
Soneji
I am banking on the seemer being eliminated just on probability. If not, this becomes significantly more difficult. The next two names I am considering are Dom and Elohcin, but neither of those cases thrills me. If I'm wrong about Quin then I'm probably going to take that mistake with me to the grave at this point. I can still perhaps see a viable pairing of sig with Epignosis, so that's something to consider moving forward too. I am not interested in voting for Scotty, Sloonei, Turnip Head, Black Rock, or S~V~S.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I had never thought of chaindeath and Nerolunar that way, for some stupid reason. I would be happy to lynch either one of them tomorrow.
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Re: [DAY 5] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Hey y'all, remember this?
Because sig is the Warden.
The Warden has to be a player who is familiar enough with rainbow lists that he/she'd not only put one together, but also make a joke out of it (knowing that many people on The Syndicate really don't like rainbow lists). This would seem to rule out anyone who doesn't have recent playing experience here prior to this game (Nerolunar, chaindeath, Soneji). Also note that the Warden placed sig in the red pile and voted for sig himself -- which in part turned people off to a sig lynch on Day 5. That was clearly an effective move on his part.Warden wrote:I understand you people like rainbows.
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Dragon D. Luffy
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I might be overthinking it, but I don't think sig is the warden. I'm basing that entirely off of the syntax used in the warden's post. 'I understand' is a kind of professionalism I don't see sig using, even if he was trying to conceal his identity.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I think the other other applicable name in my suspect pool is Draconus (now known as Dom). He does admittedly have the tendency in his posts to use single line breaks as can be seen in that rainbow list.
When I say single line breaks I mean this.
No spaces between lines
Not like this.
When I say single line breaks I mean this.
No spaces between lines
Not like this.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
The hosts did say that the Warden's posts in the prison (which y'all cannot see) were sometimes generated by themselves -- MP and Daisy. Maybe that was necessary because the actual player with that role wasn't around often enough to fulfill that necessary duty. That would make sense if it was Mongoose and then Draconus. I'll go ahead and name Dom as the 5th member of my proposed cop team.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I just took a look at him thus far in the game, and he's been favouring double and triple line breaks a lot more. I only see one case of a single line break.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I think the other other applicable name in my suspect pool is Draconus (now known as Dom). He does admittedly have the tendency in his posts to use single line breaks as can be seen in that rainbow list.
When I say single line breaks I mean this.
No spaces between lines
Not like this.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
The point is that most players never use single line breaks and he does sometimes.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I highly suggest you look at my posts again else you risk spreading misinformation. Not just in this thread, but in all threads.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I think the other other applicable name in my suspect pool is Draconus (now known as Dom). He does admittedly have the tendency in his posts to use single line breaks as can be seen in that rainbow list.
When I say single line breaks I mean this.
No spaces between lines
Not like this.
Support this claim.Prisoner 509378 wrote:The point is that most players never use single line breaks and he does sometimes.
Why?Prisoner 509378 wrote:The hosts did say that the Warden's posts in the prison (which y'all cannot see) were sometimes generated by themselves -- MP and Daisy. Maybe that was necessary because the actual player with that role wasn't around often enough to fulfill that necessary duty. That would make sense if it was Mongoose and then Draconus. I'll go ahead and name Dom as the 5th member of my proposed cop team.
So, you think Mongoose/Draconus were around enough to make that rainbow post above, but not around enough to have MP/Daisy make posts for them?
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Draconus is the one I said used single line breaks, not you. In this game however, he is you.Dom wrote:I highly suggest you look at my posts again else you risk spreading misinformation. Not just in this thread, but in all threads.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I think the other other applicable name in my suspect pool is Draconus (now known as Dom). He does admittedly have the tendency in his posts to use single line breaks as can be seen in that rainbow list.
When I say single line breaks I mean this.
No spaces between lines
Not like this.
Okay.Dom wrote:Support this claim.Prisoner 509378 wrote:The point is that most players never use single line breaks and he does sometimes.
Spoiler: show
Well sure, it's just one post. I am pretty sure neither of the hosts made any of the warden's posts in the actual game thread, so the rainbow had to be produced by a player. That player had to be familiar with rainbow lists specifically as it pertains to their "popularity" on The Syndicate. That player had to be a cop. That's how I've reduced this field to three names.Dom wrote:Why?Prisoner 509378 wrote:The hosts did say that the Warden's posts in the prison (which y'all cannot see) were sometimes generated by themselves -- MP and Daisy. Maybe that was necessary because the actual player with that role wasn't around often enough to fulfill that necessary duty. That would make sense if it was Mongoose and then Draconus. I'll go ahead and name Dom as the 5th member of my proposed cop team.
So, you think Mongoose/Draconus were around enough to make that rainbow post above, but not around enough to have MP/Daisy make posts for them?
[That player had to be a cop.]
So I'm not going to associate someone I trust as a clear town read with the warden role -- it's not Sloonei, S~V~S, Turnip Head, Scotty, or Black Rock
[That player had to be familiar with rainbow lists specifically as it pertains to their "popularity" on The Syndicate.]
I'm not going to associate someone who is new to The Syndicate with this insider understanding of how rainbow lists are perceived on the website -- it's not chaindeath, Soneji, Serge (Elohcin), or Nerolunar
That leaves only three candidates -- sig, Draconus (Dom), Epignosis
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Re: [DAY 5] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
HOSTS:MovingPictures07 wrote:I know no question has been asked, but we have received questions about this via PM, and I want to clarify for all prisoners and main game players, since this hasn't been clarified.
Although Warden has access to the sockpuppet, Daisy and I do as well. For Prison Yard trials to be effective and timely, as well as to obfuscate the Warden's identity, your hosts have posted using that account in the prison. In addition, many posts by Warden in prison have thus far been direct or twisted quotes from Shawshank Redemption.
So while prisoners and main game players are more than welcome to hunt for Warden using whatever methods they wish, Daisy and I personally advise against reading too much into Warden's posting timing, language, etc. in prison threads as a sole basis for hunting down that player.
Did you post using the warden's sock account in this game thread at any point?
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
I just realized I forgot Quin in that analysis of Warden suspects. He should be included as a viable Warden I suppose. He's still pretty new to the site, but I checked Zodiac Mafia and there was some amount of Rainbow List Drama in that game because llama posted one. Quin has some basis of familiarity with them, and the drama stemming from that would be reason enough for him to make the "I understand you people like rainbows." joke in this thread.
Sloonei, would you put that WIFOMburger past Quin?
Sloonei, would you put that WIFOMburger past Quin?
Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
lol, I've been saying Nero might be mafia for awhile same about chaindeath. I've said the same about Epi and possibly llama. Admittedly I was wrong about LC, but I do think I was right about Ika.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Remaining cops:
chaindeath
Nerolunar
sig
Soneji
I am banking on the seemer being eliminated just on probability. If not, this becomes significantly more difficult. The next two names I am considering are Dom and Elohcin, but neither of those cases thrills me. If I'm wrong about Quin then I'm probably going to take that mistake with me to the grave at this point. I can still perhaps see a viable pairing of sig with Epignosis, so that's something to consider moving forward too. I am not interested in voting for Scotty, Sloonei, Turnip Head, Black Rock, or S~V~S.
We want the four cops?
Chaindeath
Nero
Epi
Llama
I still think Sloonie could be a cop, which is why he is still alive. However, that is never going to gain any traction.
Nah I'm not mafia. I bet the mafia are among those you read as town and they are having a nice laugh in BTSC. I did waffle on Quin yup. I've been playing for self preservation, to call Quin scummy means that I see what I did during the CFD as scummy. Plus Quin used his votes to save me.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm motivated again. The hell with Boomslang. There are enough people left to trust that the baddies cannot hide. It's over, cops. Die die die.
However, if either of us are mafia it is him. Think about it, why would he waste his votes to save me? It is since I captured the attention of the thread and let the baddies pass unnoticed.
UMMMM HELLLO IF ANYONE IS THE WARDEN IT IS EPI!
this just came to me, the wording the rainbow list itself. Who never ever ever does rainbow lists? Who refuses to do rainbow lists? Epi. Thus it would make perfect sense for a sock Epi to make a rainbow list.
Also I thought I was the seemer?
The warden is most likely Epi.
Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Though I think reading to deep into the Warden is foolish, as well as discounting new players. If they are mafia they've got chat and could have easily been told about the lists.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
What makes you think llama was killed by townies?sig wrote:lol, I've been saying Nero might be mafia for awhile same about chaindeath. I've said the same about Epi and possibly llama. Admittedly I was wrong about LC, but I do think I was right about Ika.
We want the four cops?
Chaindeath
Nero
Epi
Llama
S~V~S is still alive, Scotty is still alive, I'm still alive, Epignosis is still alive. What about Sloonei's survival is special? I'm asking because I'm genuinely interested in your perspective.sig wrote:I still think Sloonie could be a cop, which is why he is still alive. However, that is never going to gain any traction.
I don't care about these off-hand assertions. MAKE A CASE. I haven't voted for you yet, so you can just assume I'm listening. Don't just talk about Quin, talk about those town reads of mine that apparently I should be distrusting.sig wrote:Nah I'm not mafia. I bet the mafia are among those you read as town and they are having a nice laugh in BTSC. I did waffle on Quin yup. I've been playing for self preservation, to call Quin scummy means that I see what I did during the CFD as scummy. Plus Quin used his votes to save me.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm motivated again. The hell with Boomslang. There are enough people left to trust that the baddies cannot hide. It's over, cops. Die die die.
However, if either of us are mafia it is him. Think about it, why would he waste his votes to save me? It is since I captured the attention of the thread and let the baddies pass unnoticed.
Sure, I considered that. I think it's a minor point to make in the face of an otherwise wealthy thread though -- one that I cannot boast for Draconus/Dom or even you.sig wrote:UMMMM HELLLO IF ANYONE IS THE WARDEN IT IS EPI!
this just came to me, the wording the rainbow list itself. Who never ever ever does rainbow lists? Who refuses to do rainbow lists? Epi. Thus it would make perfect sense for a sock Epi to make a rainbow list.
Also I thought I was the seemer?
The warden is most likely Epi.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
If Epignosis did post that rainbow, it wasn't because it was his desired method of deception -- it was because he secretly wanted to post a rainbow list and finally found a chance to do it without wounding his pride.
Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Prisoner 509378 wrote:If Epignosis did post that rainbow, it wasn't because it was his desired method of deception -- it was because he secretly wanted to post a rainbow list and finally found a chance to do it without wounding his pride.
There's a wrench in the syntax / spacing / rainbow analysis: BTSC. Anybody on the team could have said in BTSC, "Hey Warden, post this," and "Yo, Warden, here's a rainbow list to copy and paste. That'll be funny to post."
MP has said that only one player (the actual Warden) has access to the account, which means only he or she could post from it.
With the smaller player base, I'm going to try this again.
All posts were between 4:43pm EST and 7:29pm EST, late afternoon/ early evening, except that red one. 4:17am EST.Epignosis wrote:No he hasn't, I see.Epignosis wrote:Has Norton posted today?
Chronos, God of Timestamps, I summon thee!
Six posts, EST:
Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:47 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:53 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:43 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:17 am
Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:41 pm
Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:29 pm
You might not want to take any consideration of Norton's posts or vote, but I bet that's something to look at.
I'm checkin' all y'alls posting times.
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Re: [NIGHT 8] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
If I had to name the remaining four cops I would go with:
Epig (cause he's still alive)
Scotty (cause he's still alive)
Well that's two. I am really lost this game. If TH is not a cop then Sig is not a cop. The role I think he is makes a lot of sense in the survival and his blind faith in Sig. Also that Warden rainbow list looks like something contrived to mislead. I will likely vote Epig tomorrow.
Epig (cause he's still alive)
Scotty (cause he's still alive)
Well that's two. I am really lost this game. If TH is not a cop then Sig is not a cop. The role I think he is makes a lot of sense in the survival and his blind faith in Sig. Also that Warden rainbow list looks like something contrived to mislead. I will likely vote Epig tomorrow.
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Oops I forgot Llama was dead. Scratch that Llama read.
@509 I did make a case on Sloonie, it hasn't really changed. I don't think he has contributed much as a civ, I believe he attempted to divert the CFD away from Fuzz and onto Matt a civ, in an attempt to save Matt. His post CFD behavior was also mafiaish imo.
Also if we want to talk warden wifom, putting me a civ most likely to be lynched in red as well as Sloonie a mafia member who wasn't close to getting lynched in red could later be used to defend sloonie.
@509 I did make a case on Sloonie, it hasn't really changed. I don't think he has contributed much as a civ, I believe he attempted to divert the CFD away from Fuzz and onto Matt a civ, in an attempt to save Matt. His post CFD behavior was also mafiaish imo.
Also if we want to talk warden wifom, putting me a civ most likely to be lynched in red as well as Sloonie a mafia member who wasn't close to getting lynched in red could later be used to defend sloonie.
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
sig wrote:Turnip Head wrote:You better not be bad, I swear to jeebus.sig wrote:
Turnip Head and sig do not have BTSC.sig wrote:oh no.Turnip Head wrote:Well you're on your own tomorrow siggy boy. I don't know where to go from here.
Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Maybe it was all an act?Prisoner 509378 wrote:sig wrote:Turnip Head wrote:You better not be bad, I swear to jeebus.sig wrote:Turnip Head and sig do not have BTSC.sig wrote:oh no.Turnip Head wrote:Well you're on your own tomorrow siggy boy. I don't know where to go from here.
Or maybe we don't have BTSC.