Downton Abbey Mafia (ENDGAME)

[Nerolunar]

Okay so I didn't mention this since I didn't want to be killed. But, I think there is a good chance mafia Ika killed Silver. Here me out, she can read him almost 100% it would make perfect sense for mafia Ika and/or his teammates to want her dead. This is compounded by Llama's post about how Ika is lock cleared town. I'm thinking a possibly Ika/Llama team.

I'll look more into this tomorrow.

Ika is off the poll today though, so that won't be happening.

Naaah Ika ain´t bad. You may be.

Polo

May I ask why?

Pressure. You reacted calmly, not what I had expected from a new player

@Sig: I have a very strong townread on Ika, thats all.

[Spacedaisy]

Shit, sorry SD. That was a misread on my part - sig quoting himself threw me off, and I was reading his response to his post as your response to his post:

I see three scenarios here.

1. Ika is mafia and killed Silver before she could get a strong read on him.
2. Someone killed Silver to frame Ika, this points to an experienced mafia member.
3. Silver mainly talked about DF, Epi, and LC around the time of her death and EOD. One of them is mafia and killed her.

I'm requoting this, the more I think about the more likely it is to be true, plus I think all three would think that Ika could be framed for Silver's death. I'll do the leg work for it over the phase, I'm just throwing out some thoughts right now.

It's possible, of the three I thinkDF is the least likely to do this and I feel pretty good about Epi. DF could be bad, LC could be bad. I could see LC pulling this.

That said, I'm not convinced it was one of those three either. I'm still partial to my reason. That said, we've had a lot to build on that so far. And the reaction to her death I have liked the least is Lorab. For the moment I am putting my vote there.

I went to smugly fetch this post so I could show you how I wasn't putting words in your mouth at all, when I finally realized what you and sig were telling me. Sorry for the derp on that front. My bad.

LOL, it's ok. I did forget that little blurb back and forth so you were justified in pointing out you had said you suspected me. This response makes me feel better about you, that was making me question you.

[Long Con]

Shit, sorry SD. That was a misread on my part - sig quoting himself threw me off, and I was reading his response to his post as your response to his post:

I see three scenarios here.

1. Ika is mafia and killed Silver before she could get a strong read on him.
2. Someone killed Silver to frame Ika, this points to an experienced mafia member.
3. Silver mainly talked about DF, Epi, and LC around the time of her death and EOD. One of them is mafia and killed her.

I'm requoting this, the more I think about the more likely it is to be true, plus I think all three would think that Ika could be framed for Silver's death. I'll do the leg work for it over the phase, I'm just throwing out some thoughts right now.

It's possible, of the three I thinkDF is the least likely to do this and I feel pretty good about Epi. DF could be bad, LC could be bad. I could see LC pulling this.

That said, I'm not convinced it was one of those three either. I'm still partial to my reason. That said, we've had a lot to build on that so far. And the reaction to her death I have liked the least is Lorab. For the moment I am putting my vote there.

I went to smugly fetch this post so I could show you how I wasn't putting words in your mouth at all, when I finally realized what you and sig were telling me. Sorry for the derp on that front. My bad.

LOL, it's ok. I did forget that little blurb back and forth so you were justified in pointing out you had said you suspected me. This response makes me feel better about you, that was making me question you.

Question my alignment or my sanity? Don't answer that.

[Spacedaisy]

Your alignment, there is no question regarding your (in)sanity.

[Dom]

Nobody wants to summarize DFaraday for me?

[Polo]

Okay so I didn't mention this since I didn't want to be killed. But, I think there is a good chance mafia Ika killed Silver. Here me out, she can read him almost 100% it would make perfect sense for mafia Ika and/or his teammates to want her dead. This is compounded by Llama's post about how Ika is lock cleared town. I'm thinking a possibly Ika/Llama team.

I'll look more into this tomorrow.

Ika is off the poll today though, so that won't be happening.

Naaah Ika ain´t bad. You may be.

Polo

May I ask why?

Pressure. You reacted calmly, not what I had expected from a new player

@Sig: I have a very strong townread on Ika, thats all.

I'd be reacting very differently if I had more than one vote.

[Long Con]

Nobody wants to summarize DFaraday for me?

Sorry for missing this earlier. Looking back over DFaraday, the only thing that really pinged me about him was his second post of the game. The rest of his posts actually look very Civvish. My preferred vote was Scotty yesterday, but I switched to DFaraday when I saw it was between him and Bubbles because he was my legacy suspicion from the Day 1 lynch. Judging him from the rest of his posts, I'd say I'm not going to be voting him again. Not today at least.

[Spacedaisy]

What is it about Scotty that you don't like?

[Long Con]

What is it about Scotty that you don't like?

The feeling that he was buddying me.

[Epignosis]

Long Con, how does Scotty's vote for Lorab affect your opinion of either of them?

[Long Con]

Long Con, how does Scotty's vote for Lorab affect your opinion of either of them?

I have Lorab simmering at a neutral-leaning-scum place, and Scotty's case has some merit, but nothing too meaty. His case is mostly gut based on quieter, more off-topic stuff from Lorab. He could be right, or he could be bad and looking for a Civ patsy to make a case on. His case doesn't really affect my slight suspicion of him either way - there's not much there, but it's still early to be able to make a convincing case about "quieter".

[Epignosis]

I made it a point to go through the posts of the metallic Marsh.

MM asks questions but there isn't much follow up to them, and that's amid a number of posts that aren't really relevant. I tried comparing what he has here to Pikmin (in which he was bad), and I noticed that there he had more substantial (fake) suspicions. Here, there is very little of substance in general.

Just because I said I haven't been lynched Day 1 in a while doesn't mean the time has come again.

It might be a good idea though. How about if you're bad? Then I might die night 1 if you're not lynched first. I have to put some thought into this.

Seeing Illy play has brought my mood up. I like the return of old Mafia friends. I thought I'd never see her again.

I'll probably nightkill Scotty instead. He's my other go-to option.

He joked about killing Scotty.

I'm voting for birdwithteeth as well.

I don't like the consecutive posts he made in response to DFaraday earlier.

Also, I doubt I will vote for Silverwolf today.

He said he wouldn't vote for Silverwolf, who died.

To MM, Faraday, Scotty

You helped contribute to a civ lynch on Day 1 by voting Bwt (yeah I did too), and you currently all have your votes on me.

Step it up, gentleman.

I'm going to vote Illy for now in case we want to do a surprise attack on her, but I may change it in about 20 minutes depending on what happens with bea/bubbles and DF.

I suppose instead, I should not contribute to lynches at all?



I changed my mind, I'm leaving my vote on Matt.

Apart from the general lack of useful content, this is the most suspicious element MM's posts. That underlined bit twists what Matt was saying in a big way.

That's all I've got on MM.

[Scotty]

Why is MM still voting for himself? Like, I know why he said he is voting for himself, but why is he still drawing on himself with a sharpie in the mirror?

[Black Rock]

Where do you stand with MM Epig? I didn't really understand what your conclusion was.

[Marmot]

Why is MM still voting for himself? Like, I know why he said he is voting for himself, but why is he still drawing on himself with a sharpie in the mirror?

I'm not sure. I did it for the lulz, and I guess it's still there.

[Black Rock]

Why is MM still voting for himself? Like, I know why he said he is voting for himself, but why is he still drawing on himself with a sharpie in the mirror?

I'm not sure. I did it for the lulz, and I guess it's still there.

Who do you suspect?

[Marmot]

To MM, Faraday, Scotty

You helped contribute to a civ lynch on Day 1 by voting Bwt (yeah I did too), and you currently all have your votes on me.

Step it up, gentleman.

I'm going to vote Illy for now in case we want to do a surprise attack on her, but I may change it in about 20 minutes depending on what happens with bea/bubbles and DF.

I suppose instead, I should not contribute to lynches at all?



I changed my mind, I'm leaving my vote on Matt.

Apart from the general lack of useful content, this is the most suspicious element MM's posts. That underlined bit twists what Matt was saying in a big way.

That's all I've got on MM.

I'm trying to figure out why I said that. My recollection is that I said that because Matt had placed a random vote on someone at some point this game, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I was not trying to spin what Matt said though.

[Marmot]

Why is MM still voting for himself? Like, I know why he said he is voting for himself, but why is he still drawing on himself with a sharpie in the mirror?

I'm not sure. I did it for the lulz, and I guess it's still there.

Who do you suspect?

Matt is my sole suspect right now, and that stems from Day 2 because I haven't been attending this game the past couple days.

Matt took a while to get into the game, including multiple posts of promising to catch up. I don't like this characterization of Polo. He also doesn't seem very attached to the game, and hasn't posted in almost 48 hours.

[Epignosis]

Where do you stand with MM Epig? I didn't really understand what your conclusion was.

If people wanted to lynch MM at this stage, they're not going to get any mileage out of his posts- there's a relatively high number of posts, but they've all been, as it were, poking from the perimeter.

That's what I'm saying.

[thellama73]

Where do you stand with MM Epig? I didn't really understand what your conclusion was.

If people wanted to lynch MM at this stage, they're not going to get any mileage out of his posts- there's a relatively high number of posts, but they've all been, as it were, poking from the perimeter.

That's what I'm saying.

I always have a low-level wanting to lynch MM, but I would much rather lynch Daisy. Long Con should join me in this, since he has ben talking the most sense of anyone lately.

[Marmot]

Where do you stand with MM Epig? I didn't really understand what your conclusion was.

If people wanted to lynch MM at this stage, they're not going to get any mileage out of his posts- there's a relatively high number of posts, but they've all been, as it were, poking from the perimeter.

That's what I'm saying.

I always have a low-level wanting to lynch MM, but I would much rather lynch Daisy. Long Con should join me in this, since he has ben talking the most sense of anyone lately.

Why do you want to lynch Spacedaisy? I find her presence in this game reassuring.

[Long Con]

Where do you stand with MM Epig? I didn't really understand what your conclusion was.

If people wanted to lynch MM at this stage, they're not going to get any mileage out of his posts- there's a relatively high number of posts, but they've all been, as it were, poking from the perimeter.

That's what I'm saying.

I always have a low-level wanting to lynch MM, but I would much rather lynch Daisy. Long Con should join me in this, since he has been talking the most sense of anyone lately.

Well, I'm not entirely opposed to a Daisy lynch, and you seem like a genuine chap to me... but to say I've been talking the most sense of anyone lately? I mean, did you read my awful exchange with SD earlier? I was making no sense because of a reading comprehension fail.

[thellama73]

Why do you want to lynch Spacedaisy? I find her presence in this game reassuring.

A couple of reasons.
1) she's led us away from a DFaraday lynch, towards two civilian lynches. This in itself is not very compelling. I've done the same thing myself in many a game. But there's also...
2) Her "lynch DFaraday and then come after me if he's bad" gambit, feels like a setup. I think she knows he will flip good, which is why she made the offer.
3) Her repeated use of some variation of the phrase "suspect me all you want" feels false to me, especially given that she has reacted more strongly to my suspicion of her than I would have expected. It feels like she is trying to act like she doesn't care about being suspected, but she actually cares a lot, and that seems like a baddie move to me.

[Spacedaisy]

1. I'm not protecting DF, I have no read on him, I can't read him,this is a well established fact. I don't know his alignment, there is a chance you will lynch him and find him bad, I don't know.

2. My point was not that I actually want you to lynch him, it's that your logic was deeply flawed. If you had a bad flip on DF, then it would make some sense to point at me but you have no flip on DF.

3. I care because I'm engaged in the game, no one wants to be lynched. And when I see flawed logic being used to paint me as bad, I'm going to point it out.

[Spacedaisy]

Bonus: I think anyone who wants to think it through could see why I have taken every opportunity to say in anyway I can that I am not bad, I don't have bad intentions, people who suspect me are wrong, etc.

[Epignosis]

Would you kill Silverwolf Night 1?

[Dom]

I could vote Daisy.

[Spacedaisy]

Would you kill Silverwolf Night 1?

Me? If I had a kill, yeah I'd consider it. She's got great instincts for finding scum. But I don't have a kill or any part in any kills.

[Dom]

Who was it that initially coaxed Daisy into all this talking? I remember her saying it would be tough for her.

[thellama73]

1. I'm not protecting DF, I have no read on him, I can't read him,this is a well established fact. I don't know his alignment, there is a chance you will lynch him and find him bad, I don't know.

2. My point was not that I actually want you to lynch him, it's that your logic was deeply flawed. If you had a bad flip on DF, then it would make some sense to point at me but you have no flip on DF.

3. I care because I'm engaged in the game, no one wants to be lynched. And when I see flawed logic being used to paint me as bad, I'm going to point it out.

My logic isn't flawed. You just disagree with my premises.

[LoRab]

Why are you speculating in the thread about who has a civilian role?

sometimes i get board and like to try to figure peoples roles

Figuring out people's roles is a good thing. Even if you aren't bored. But posting your speculations in the thread can only help the baddies. meh. if the baddies are good at all, they will be using some sort of deduction with their own info anyway. I think that speculation isn't the worst thing out there.

LoRab: looks bad. I didn't remember anything she has said so I ISO'd her. Not a lot of anything there. Half her posts are just nostalgic posts of the past or asking questions. The other parts:
Day 1, she laments that she doesn't see the case on Dom or DFaraday because they're both playing typically. She votes BWT with the crowd because...he made an inconsistent point, and that was unlike him. Then, shying away from all the bandwagons 24 hours later, does a meaningless vote for Wilgy because he is posting in normal Albeit strange Wilgy manner- also demanding he post normally.
She has played with Wilgy before and knows he has some quirky posting style every game. For someone that doesn't suspect certain people for posting similar to their meta, this is a surprising vote.
Day 2, she misses the vote, and comes back recently saying she doesn't know how she would have voted. Offers the same excuse: "I need to reread" the case on DFaraday. She accepts Epi's suspicion for being quiet, and says that her game has been unusually quiet so far.
Her excuses make her seem worse for wear. Even admitting recently that her game has changed recently.
I think LoRab could very well be bad, and would like to follow this suspicion further.

I may "look bad" to you, but I'm not bad. And, yes, there has been a bit of nostalgia--Illy is one of my closest mafia friends and I haven't played a game with her in years--I'm enjoying having her back in the game, bantering about old times, and having her here has brought back some mafia memories. And, I've been travelling, so my schedule has been off and I haven't had a ton of time to play. Theres nothing wrong with being nostalgic. My commentary is not necessarily jumping on you because you're catching up with an old pal, but because that had comprised half of your content.

And I don't think Wilgy is being the same as in every game--and it was a day 1 vote, I voted on what I had in the thread. I actually continue to have some suspicion of Wilgy--especially since he never commented on my vote or reason for it (unless I missed a response, in which case someone please point me to it). Well if it's just a Day 1 vote, why should Wilgy have a need to comment on it at all?We'll just have to disagree on the perspective of Wilgy's gameplay, because this is the same cryptic, eccentric Wilgy that I've seen in past games. Maybe I'm viewing him through rose-tinted glasses and that's why I assumed your voting him was hypocritical. I'll give you that.

And, truly, I have not had time to reread anyone--again, travelling, not a lot of time for mafia. I'm not sure what you mean by the last paragraph--I've been quieter than usual because of travel--not the first time that's happened. Not even the first time in recent games. I don't see how being quieter has anything to do with my seeming suspicious. And I did not sy my game has changed recently, just that it's changed since I last played with Illy, in response to her post commenting that I'm not as talkative as I used to be. When Illy and I used to play together, I'd regularly be among the top posters--I once discovered that LP had a character limit on posts and ended up making a post that was 3 posts long because of it. That's not how I play any more--given that Illy is using meta and my rate and style of posting is not what it was then, I wanted to point that out. Being quieter is always inherently suspicious to me, and you drawing attention to your change in playstyle caught my eye. It may be me just seeing what I want to see, or it may be that you wanted to setup your lack of posting as a precedent so that those who know you as a free-posting civ don't get the wrong ideas. We all have time constraints. Not judging you for lack of posting due to travel. I know all about that. I'm just more concerned with the way you put it out there looks to me like a crutch of sorts

I can't help but think that you're twisting the facts in order to get a case against me. Or, even after I've been around here for a while now, you still think that my game play is inherently suspicious and haven't learned how to read me. Reading has never been my strong suit. I'm more into drawing.
In regards to twisting facts: most of this is my opinion anyway, so which facts am I twisting?

A few things: I never voted for BWT day 1, as you say I do. I mention the 2 main people in the thread people were considering and commented on them--one I expressed some mild suspicion of. That is a fact (not an opinion) that you cite as evidence but which isn't accurate.

Also, you say that I commented that I had recently changed my game. That is not what I said--I said it was different from when Illy last played with me (hardly recent). And your description seems to imply that I said it out of the blue, when in fact it was in direct response to Illy who noted that I am being quiet and that made her suspicious of me. In direct response I noted that my game has become much quieter than the LoRab she's used to.

The other points, yes, are opinion. And while I can disagree, they cannot be wrong. But your conclusions are wrong.

[Dom]

wot hoppen

[LoRab]

Let's try that again without screwing up the quotes.

Why are you speculating in the thread about who has a civilian role?

sometimes i get board and like to try to figure peoples roles

Figuring out people's roles is a good thing. Even if you aren't bored. But posting your speculations in the thread can only help the baddies. meh. if the baddies are good at all, they will be using some sort of deduction with their own info anyway. I think that speculation isn't the worst thing out there.

LoRab: looks bad. I didn't remember anything she has said so I ISO'd her. Not a lot of anything there. Half her posts are just nostalgic posts of the past or asking questions. The other parts:
Day 1, she laments that she doesn't see the case on Dom or DFaraday because they're both playing typically. She votes BWT with the crowd because...he made an inconsistent point, and that was unlike him. Then, shying away from all the bandwagons 24 hours later, does a meaningless vote for Wilgy because he is posting in normal Albeit strange Wilgy manner- also demanding he post normally.
She has played with Wilgy before and knows he has some quirky posting style every game. For someone that doesn't suspect certain people for posting similar to their meta, this is a surprising vote.
Day 2, she misses the vote, and comes back recently saying she doesn't know how she would have voted. Offers the same excuse: "I need to reread" the case on DFaraday. She accepts Epi's suspicion for being quiet, and says that her game has been unusually quiet so far.
Her excuses make her seem worse for wear. Even admitting recently that her game has changed recently.
I think LoRab could very well be bad, and would like to follow this suspicion further.

I may "look bad" to you, but I'm not bad. And, yes, there has been a bit of nostalgia--Illy is one of my closest mafia friends and I haven't played a game with her in years--I'm enjoying having her back in the game, bantering about old times, and having her here has brought back some mafia memories. And, I've been travelling, so my schedule has been off and I haven't had a ton of time to play. Theres nothing wrong with being nostalgic. My commentary is not necessarily jumping on you because you're catching up with an old pal, but because that had comprised half of your content.

And I don't think Wilgy is being the same as in every game--and it was a day 1 vote, I voted on what I had in the thread. I actually continue to have some suspicion of Wilgy--especially since he never commented on my vote or reason for it (unless I missed a response, in which case someone please point me to it). Well if it's just a Day 1 vote, why should Wilgy have a need to comment on it at all?We'll just have to disagree on the perspective of Wilgy's gameplay, because this is the same cryptic, eccentric Wilgy that I've seen in past games. Maybe I'm viewing him through rose-tinted glasses and that's why I assumed your voting him was hypocritical. I'll give you that.

And, truly, I have not had time to reread anyone--again, travelling, not a lot of time for mafia. I'm not sure what you mean by the last paragraph--I've been quieter than usual because of travel--not the first time that's happened. Not even the first time in recent games. I don't see how being quieter has anything to do with my seeming suspicious. And I did not sy my game has changed recently, just that it's changed since I last played with Illy, in response to her post commenting that I'm not as talkative as I used to be. When Illy and I used to play together, I'd regularly be among the top posters--I once discovered that LP had a character limit on posts and ended up making a post that was 3 posts long because of it. That's not how I play any more--given that Illy is using meta and my rate and style of posting is not what it was then, I wanted to point that out. Being quieter is always inherently suspicious to me, and you drawing attention to your change in playstyle caught my eye. It may be me just seeing what I want to see, or it may be that you wanted to setup your lack of posting as a precedent so that those who know you as a free-posting civ don't get the wrong ideas. We all have time constraints. Not judging you for lack of posting due to travel. I know all about that. I'm just more concerned with the way you put it out there looks to me like a crutch of sorts

I can't help but think that you're twisting the facts in order to get a case against me. Or, even after I've been around here for a while now, you still think that my game play is inherently suspicious and haven't learned how to read me. Reading has never been my strong suit. I'm more into drawing.
In regards to twisting facts: most of this is my opinion anyway, so which facts am I twisting?

Toss Lorab in that second list.

In a shocking plot twist that no one saw coming, Epig suspects LoRab. Otherwise known as a game in which we are both playing.

Lorab may end up with my vote.

hey sig would it be too far fetched that epi is the silencer?

Why are you speculating in the thread about who has a civilian role?

Why is that worth giving someone the eye?

Why didn't you give Polo the eye?

I believe you are Mr. Carson, Epignosis.

This guy basically called me an old, overweight servant who is married in real life to Dolores Umbridge.

I always find suspicious someone who actively helps the baddies in the thread. It's something that has always pinged my suspiciometer. It's not in the best interest of the civs and it makes me doubt the player's intentions.

And I must have missed noticing the Polo post. I've been catching up in spurts and sometimes in skimming miss a detail here and there.

Now Lorab I am up in the air about. I am a little surprised that when Silver was killed, Lorab immediately went to trying to downplay the idea she is likely civ because of Carson. I get that possibility is out there, but why is it so important to you that Silver is not trusted? She barely made any reads at all? Or were we too close for comfort to a teammate who might be linked to her death?

I wasn't trying to downplay anything, and I never disputed that she was likely civ--I merely pointed out the possibility that it is not 100% confirmed that she's civ. I often point out a possibility, even when small, that no one has considered.

A few things: I never voted for BWT day 1, as you say I do. I mention the 2 main people in the thread people were considering and commented on them--one I expressed some mild suspicion of. That is a fact (not an opinion) that you cite as evidence but which isn't accurate.

Also, you say that I commented that I had recently changed my game. That is not what I said--I said it was different from when Illy last played with me (hardly recent). And your description seems to imply that I said it out of the blue, when in fact it was in direct response to Illy who noted that I am being quiet and that made her suspicious of me. In direct response I noted that my game has become much quieter than the LoRab she's used to.

The other points, yes, are opinion. And while I can disagree, they cannot be wrong. But your conclusions are wrong.

[ika]

i feel liek thsi game is going nowhere and its jsut back and forth aboutt he same things....

lets lynch dasy!

[Scotty]

i feel liek thsi game is going nowhere and its jsut back and forth aboutt he same things....

lets lynch dasy!

Ok. Ill throw my stick in the fire.

Daisy.

[Matt]

Illy, Lorab, Ika...hrm.

[Sorsha]

Either Matt, Wilgy or Sorsha has been silenced last night.

I'm not. I've just been busy and reading just now I haven't been able to make heads or tails over anything going on in the thread. Two that I have been mostly agreeing with have been Scotty and llama. I could follow a daisy vote but I don't want to just yet. I'd like to read again later when I'm not so tired from work.

[Dom]

i voted daisy.

[Polo]

Either Matt, Wilgy or Sorsha has been silenced last night.

I'm not. I've just been busy and reading just now I haven't been able to make heads or tails over anything going on in the thread. Two that I have been mostly agreeing with have been Scotty and llama. I could follow a daisy vote but I don't want to just yet. I'd like to read again later when I'm not so tired from work.

Wilgy was silenced then. Not like that'd make any difference.

[Epignosis]

To those of you voting or thinking about voting spacedaisy:

What happens if she gets lynched and is a civilian? Where do you look then?

What happens if she gets lynched and is mafia? Where do you look then?

[Spacedaisy]

I'm done talking, you all have already decided. I would just ask that when I am lynched and flip civ, please lynch llama next, so that he is the victim of his own faulty logic as well. He did after all, vote to lynch bubbles and then turn around and wanted to lynch me for her lynch. Takes zero responsibility for his own actions and lynches me because he claims I am protecting DF from lynch, despite the fact he has no idea what DF's role is. That is the basis of this freaking lynch, it's the stupidest case against me I have ever seen and if llama and Dom and ika are not bad, they are going to be eating a ton of crow when this lynch is over.

[ika]

I'm done talking, you all have already decided. I would just ask that when I am lynched and flip civ, please lynch llama next, so that he is the victim of his own faulty logic as well. He did after all, vote to lynch bubbles and then turn around and wanted to lynch me for her lynch. Takes zero responsibility for his own actions and lynches me because he claims I am protecting DF from lynch, despite the fact he has no idea what DF's role is. That is the basis of this freaking lynch, it's the stupidest case against me I have ever seen and if llama and Dom and ika are not bad, they are going to be eating a ton of crow when this lynch is over.

NIce AtE

if you dont know how to read someone you lynch them, the fact you have been saving his ass all game long and not town reading him is quite telling n itself

[Marmot]

1. I'm not protecting DF, I have no read on him, I can't read him,this is a well established fact. I don't know his alignment, there is a chance you will lynch him and find him bad, I don't know.

2. My point was not that I actually want you to lynch him, it's that your logic was deeply flawed. If you had a bad flip on DF, then it would make some sense to point at me but you have no flip on DF.

3. I care because I'm engaged in the game, no one wants to be lynched. And when I see flawed logic being used to paint me as bad, I'm going to point it out.

My logic isn't flawed. You just disagree with my premises.

Your first point came with a caveat, so that makes 33% of your argument less logical.

[Marmot]

Let's make this interesting, Vote sig.

Sig is now the counter-wagon thanks to 50% of the votes against him being himself.

[sig]

I don't see a good reason to lynch Daisy or LoRab today. I also haven't really seen a case against her. I like the points made against Scotty, but would still rather lynch DF. :P

[sig]

Let's make this interesting, Vote sig.

Sig is now the counter-wagon thanks to 50% of the votes against him being himself.

Who else voted for me

*checks votes*

OMG SIG IS SCUM FOR VOTING FOR ME LYNCH HIMMMM.


*looks up at sky thinking*

actually never mind I don't think sig is scum, but I'm keeping my eye on him.

[sig]

What is the argument on Daisy?

[sig]

case nor argument.

[Spacedaisy]

Ika, I'm fairly certain I've been playing this game at least as long if not longer than you have, so don't give me lessons on how to play or it is only going to piss me off further. I am not bad, and you as a civ are going to lynch me on the weakest fucking case I've ever seen. Here are your points in this case:

1. I keep saying I'm civ. (I am civ, which you will see shortly if this lynch train continues)
2. I am protecting DF from a lynch (I'm not actively protecting him from a lynch I genuinely believed the two previous lynches were good leads, better than the DF case which is weak, as all the cases against him tend to be in every game he plays, also there is no knowledge his role is bad, so lynching me based on the hypothesis that DF is bad therefore I must be, is stupid)
3. I care about getting suspected. (Last time I checked civs don't like getting lynched, so this is probably the most ridiculous of all arguments you've made)

If you can't see how weak this case is, then I don't even know what to say to you. And the worst part is you all have spent all day talking about me and no one else really so it's highly unlikely anyone else will get lynched. So ika, I want to place a sig bet with you, Dom and/or Llama. When I flip I want you to put "I made a ridiculous case against Spacedaisy in Downton and was wrong about her," in your sig if I am civ.

[sig]

Wait you can't place a bet on me! I belong to Wilgy not you.
:P

Daisy who are your top three mafia reads?