MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm done with this game. I don't really care. I'm really not in the mood for this. I'll be back whenever.
335 Thread Count, Camps on Mount INH, Expects No Scrutiny
Look, it's not that I expect no scrutiny. That's a misrepresentation of my behavior.
But I'm mentally exhausted this phase. For RL reasons even more than in game, but yeah; I exhausted all that effort and the best we could get is a shitty mislynch, and despite feeling like during d1 I was enervating lots of worthwhile content I find myself constricted by less free time and analysis paralysis, so yeah I'm a bit sour grapes about this game right now.
Generating Content or White Noise (A Ballad in Three Movements):
a. I Sympathize with a Person, I Really Do
b. By the Time I Read Moby Dick Every Evening, I Lose Interest in Writing Anything Myself
c. The Other Voices are Drowned
MovingPictures07 wrote:What the fuck do you expect me to say to you just coming in, plopping a vote on me, and saying my desire to generate content is fake? You've shown no effort to critically evaluate any other INH voter or any other vote except for me today, and you've given me nothing to respond to or work with, just a broad stroke observation that my behavior is fake, and a comment that I could have moved my vote after you made an observation about INH that I considered. What about the other INH voters? Why aren't you and Dom holding them accountable for not changing their votes? Why am I being held to a standard in which you think your one point should have changed my mind when I already spoke extensively and in great detail about my INH thoughts and even expressed that same reservation about his lynch train and others did not? What about all of that specifically strikes you as contrived?
Of All People, I Would Think Mr. POE (i.e., FIND ALL THE TOWNSFOLK) and Mr. WKT Would Be Most Receptive to a Cogent Point in the Victim's Favor
You are using POE but are not justifying your votes in that way. It seems to me that POE is a massive distraction then. Saying Scotty is bad is the opposite of your strategy, is it not?
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm done with this game. I don't really care. I'm really not in the mood for this. I'll be back whenever.
335 Thread Count, Camps on Mount INH, Expects No Scrutiny
Look, it's not that I expect no scrutiny. That's a misrepresentation of my behavior.
But I'm mentally exhausted this phase. For RL reasons even more than in game, but yeah; I exhausted all that effort and the best we could get is a shitty mislynch, and despite feeling like during d1 I was enervating lots of worthwhile content I find myself constricted by less free time and analysis paralysis, so yeah I'm a bit sour grapes about this game right now.
Generating Content or White Noise (A Ballad in Three Movements):
a. I Sympathize with a Person, I Really Do
b. By the Time I Read Moby Dick Every Evening, I Lose Interest in Writing Anything Myself
c. The Other Voices are Drowned
MovingPictures07 wrote:What the fuck do you expect me to say to you just coming in, plopping a vote on me, and saying my desire to generate content is fake? You've shown no effort to critically evaluate any other INH voter or any other vote except for me today, and you've given me nothing to respond to or work with, just a broad stroke observation that my behavior is fake, and a comment that I could have moved my vote after you made an observation about INH that I considered. What about the other INH voters? Why aren't you and Dom holding them accountable for not changing their votes? Why am I being held to a standard in which you think your one point should have changed my mind when I already spoke extensively and in great detail about my INH thoughts and even expressed that same reservation about his lynch train and others did not? What about all of that specifically strikes you as contrived?
Of All People, I Would Think Mr. POE (i.e., FIND ALL THE TOWNSFOLK) and Mr. WKT Would Be Most Receptive to a Cogent Point in the Victim's Favor
You are using POE but are not justifying your votes in that way. It seems to me that POE is a massive distraction then. Saying Scotty is bad is the opposite of your strategy, is it not?
Metalmarsh89 wrote:You guys call it random chaos marmot.
I'm serious about the timmer/Boomslang thing. Wish I had more time to chat though, but I've only been able to skim a bit.
I didn't say it was chaotic. I just don't find any value in timing accusations; I historically find them to be too inaccurate. When you get a chance, I'd be happy to hear your elaboration and/or what you're talking about re: Russ in Talking Heads.
I never responded to this post. Oops!
In Talking Heads, Russ popped in with his first post saying "Hey guys, sorry I'm late. I'm busy, but I'm just posting because the host warned me to not not post". I accused him of having BTSC, as that's where his potential warning came from. I don't remember if that was the case at all, but he did flip mafia. It's a little different than this one.
If you find this timing thing to be historically inaccurate, can you give me an example or two of someone else using a similar accusation and being wrong?
I did send him a text saying the game had started and detailing the punishment for non-voters since he was particularly busy RL during that game, so perhaps that's what he's referring to and it was a true statement. I don't know though.
I don't have the time to do that any time before EoD. I cannot even recall any games in which these kinds of accusations occur. I'll consider it though if you really think that'd be the wisest use of my time.
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm done with this game. I don't really care. I'm really not in the mood for this. I'll be back whenever.
335 Thread Count, Camps on Mount INH, Expects No Scrutiny
Look, it's not that I expect no scrutiny. That's a misrepresentation of my behavior.
But I'm mentally exhausted this phase. For RL reasons even more than in game, but yeah; I exhausted all that effort and the best we could get is a shitty mislynch, and despite feeling like during d1 I was enervating lots of worthwhile content I find myself constricted by less free time and analysis paralysis, so yeah I'm a bit sour grapes about this game right now.
Generating Content or White Noise (A Ballad in Three Movements):
a. I Sympathize with a Person, I Really Do
b. By the Time I Read Moby Dick Every Evening, I Lose Interest in Writing Anything Myself
c. The Other Voices are Drowned
MovingPictures07 wrote:What the fuck do you expect me to say to you just coming in, plopping a vote on me, and saying my desire to generate content is fake? You've shown no effort to critically evaluate any other INH voter or any other vote except for me today, and you've given me nothing to respond to or work with, just a broad stroke observation that my behavior is fake, and a comment that I could have moved my vote after you made an observation about INH that I considered. What about the other INH voters? Why aren't you and Dom holding them accountable for not changing their votes? Why am I being held to a standard in which you think your one point should have changed my mind when I already spoke extensively and in great detail about my INH thoughts and even expressed that same reservation about his lynch train and others did not? What about all of that specifically strikes you as contrived?
Of All People, I Would Think Mr. POE (i.e., FIND ALL THE TOWNSFOLK) and Mr. WKT Would Be Most Receptive to a Cogent Point in the Victim's Favor
I don't understand your first response (the ballad), but I do admit it sounds like a cool composition title.
I wasn't convinced. It's all in the thread. I was clearly tunnelling INH by that point, and the guy never had the chance to come in and address any of mine or anyone else's concerns. If you think any of that treatment by me is not genuine, then OK. I don't know what else to say.
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm done with this game. I don't really care. I'm really not in the mood for this. I'll be back whenever.
335 Thread Count, Camps on Mount INH, Expects No Scrutiny
Look, it's not that I expect no scrutiny. That's a misrepresentation of my behavior.
But I'm mentally exhausted this phase. For RL reasons even more than in game, but yeah; I exhausted all that effort and the best we could get is a shitty mislynch, and despite feeling like during d1 I was enervating lots of worthwhile content I find myself constricted by less free time and analysis paralysis, so yeah I'm a bit sour grapes about this game right now.
Generating Content or White Noise (A Ballad in Three Movements):
a. I Sympathize with a Person, I Really Do
b. By the Time I Read Moby Dick Every Evening, I Lose Interest in Writing Anything Myself
c. The Other Voices are Drowned
MovingPictures07 wrote:What the fuck do you expect me to say to you just coming in, plopping a vote on me, and saying my desire to generate content is fake? You've shown no effort to critically evaluate any other INH voter or any other vote except for me today, and you've given me nothing to respond to or work with, just a broad stroke observation that my behavior is fake, and a comment that I could have moved my vote after you made an observation about INH that I considered. What about the other INH voters? Why aren't you and Dom holding them accountable for not changing their votes? Why am I being held to a standard in which you think your one point should have changed my mind when I already spoke extensively and in great detail about my INH thoughts and even expressed that same reservation about his lynch train and others did not? What about all of that specifically strikes you as contrived?
Of All People, I Would Think Mr. POE (i.e., FIND ALL THE TOWNSFOLK) and Mr. WKT Would Be Most Receptive to a Cogent Point in the Victim's Favor
You are using POE but are not justifying your votes in that way. It seems to me that POE is a massive distraction then. Saying Scotty is bad is the opposite of your strategy, is it not?
I wasn't using POE by that point anymore and I'm still not.
Tell me, Dom. How is your continued questioning of me assisting you in determining my alignment for your and the town's benefit? Because at this point it feels to me like you're arguing semantics and I don't get the impression you really believe I am bad. I think you're using me and nitpicking minor points that are either inaccurate or I've already addressed (and you're saying I'm being not genuine, which I can't further defend because it's a mere gut interpretation) to make it appear as though you care about determining my alignment (i.e., you're town), but I don't see any reason to believe any of that is true.
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm done with this game. I don't really care. I'm really not in the mood for this. I'll be back whenever.
335 Thread Count, Camps on Mount INH, Expects No Scrutiny
Look, it's not that I expect no scrutiny. That's a misrepresentation of my behavior.
But I'm mentally exhausted this phase. For RL reasons even more than in game, but yeah; I exhausted all that effort and the best we could get is a shitty mislynch, and despite feeling like during d1 I was enervating lots of worthwhile content I find myself constricted by less free time and analysis paralysis, so yeah I'm a bit sour grapes about this game right now.
Generating Content or White Noise (A Ballad in Three Movements):
a. I Sympathize with a Person, I Really Do
b. By the Time I Read Moby Dick Every Evening, I Lose Interest in Writing Anything Myself
c. The Other Voices are Drowned
MovingPictures07 wrote:What the fuck do you expect me to say to you just coming in, plopping a vote on me, and saying my desire to generate content is fake? You've shown no effort to critically evaluate any other INH voter or any other vote except for me today, and you've given me nothing to respond to or work with, just a broad stroke observation that my behavior is fake, and a comment that I could have moved my vote after you made an observation about INH that I considered. What about the other INH voters? Why aren't you and Dom holding them accountable for not changing their votes? Why am I being held to a standard in which you think your one point should have changed my mind when I already spoke extensively and in great detail about my INH thoughts and even expressed that same reservation about his lynch train and others did not? What about all of that specifically strikes you as contrived?
Of All People, I Would Think Mr. POE (i.e., FIND ALL THE TOWNSFOLK) and Mr. WKT Would Be Most Receptive to a Cogent Point in the Victim's Favor
You are using POE but are not justifying your votes in that way. It seems to me that POE is a massive distraction then. Saying Scotty is bad is the opposite of your strategy, is it not?
I wasn't using POE by that point anymore and I'm still not.
Tell me, Dom. How is your continued questioning of me assisting you in determining my alignment for your and the town's benefit? Because at this point it feels to me like you're arguing semantics and I don't get the impression you really believe I am bad. I think you're using me and nitpicking minor points that are either inaccurate or I've already addressed (and you're saying I'm being not genuine, which I can't further defend because it's a mere gut interpretation) to make it appear as though you care about determining my alignment (i.e., you're town), but I don't see any reason to believe any of that is true.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:You guys call it random chaos marmot.
I'm serious about the timmer/Boomslang thing. Wish I had more time to chat though, but I've only been able to skim a bit.
I didn't say it was chaotic. I just don't find any value in timing accusations; I historically find them to be too inaccurate. When you get a chance, I'd be happy to hear your elaboration and/or what you're talking about re: Russ in Talking Heads.
I never responded to this post. Oops!
In Talking Heads, Russ popped in with his first post saying "Hey guys, sorry I'm late. I'm busy, but I'm just posting because the host warned me to not not post". I accused him of having BTSC, as that's where his potential warning came from. I don't remember if that was the case at all, but he did flip mafia. It's a little different than this one.
If you find this timing thing to be historically inaccurate, can you give me an example or two of someone else using a similar accusation and being wrong?
I did send him a text saying the game had started and detailing the punishment for non-voters since he was particularly busy RL during that game, so perhaps that's what he's referring to and it was a true statement. I don't know though.
I don't have the time to do that any time before EoD. I cannot even recall any games in which these kinds of accusations occur. I'll consider it though if you really think that'd be the wisest use of my time.
Your point was that it is historically inaccurate. A claim like that should have some evidence to back it up. If anyone else has a good example, I'd like to see it.
I wish I was more available to discuss it when you did have time, but that's not the case unfortunately.
MovingPictures07 wrote:I did send him a text saying the game had started and detailing the punishment for non-voters since he was particularly busy RL during that game, so perhaps that's what he's referring to and it was a true statement. I don't know though.
I Facebooked SVS when her internet was down when we were teammates in Romance of the Three Kingdoms to let her know that game had started. Fwiw.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:You guys call it random chaos marmot.
I'm serious about the timmer/Boomslang thing. Wish I had more time to chat though, but I've only been able to skim a bit.
I didn't say it was chaotic. I just don't find any value in timing accusations; I historically find them to be too inaccurate. When you get a chance, I'd be happy to hear your elaboration and/or what you're talking about re: Russ in Talking Heads.
I never responded to this post. Oops!
In Talking Heads, Russ popped in with his first post saying "Hey guys, sorry I'm late. I'm busy, but I'm just posting because the host warned me to not not post". I accused him of having BTSC, as that's where his potential warning came from. I don't remember if that was the case at all, but he did flip mafia. It's a little different than this one.
If you find this timing thing to be historically inaccurate, can you give me an example or two of someone else using a similar accusation and being wrong?
I did send him a text saying the game had started and detailing the punishment for non-voters since he was particularly busy RL during that game, so perhaps that's what he's referring to and it was a true statement. I don't know though.
I don't have the time to do that any time before EoD. I cannot even recall any games in which these kinds of accusations occur. I'll consider it though if you really think that'd be the wisest use of my time.
Your point was that it is historically inaccurate. A claim like that should have some evidence to back it up. If anyone else has a good example, I'd like to see it.
I wish I was more available to discuss it when you did have time, but that's not the case unfortunately.
I'll do some research. But considering I'm apparently in trouble today, that's not exactly my priority right now. I care to lynch people based on their posts in this game. I don't assign meaning to time-based teammate assertions, especially when there is no evidence of any mafia flip. If timmer or Boomslang were to be lynched for separately compelling reasons, then I would revisit your observation.
LoRab wrote:Of course, we now have the question of if they are a good insanifier or an evil insanifier. For the sake of balance, if there are 2, I'd venture a guess that there is one of each.
A Person wrote:I don't have the time or energy to read all the nonsense people spew, a few well placed kills would improve the quality of the game.
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Damn, this deadline came up fast (only 5 hours away).
The three players I'd vote for today are timmer, Boomslang, and Sockface.
Who else is cooking?
Why me?
triceratopzeuhl wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Damn, this deadline came up fast (only 5 hours away).
The three players I'd vote for today are timmer, Boomslang, and Sockface.
Who else is cooking?
What's the reasoning behind timmer and boomslang?
I was thinking either MP or a_person, matt's 1 post today looks really bad
And again? You've not even spoken of me at all other than to say my signal-to-noise ratio is low. Well, I think that's a load of crap. Your signal-to-noise ratio isn't any better than mine, buddy, and neither is that of many other players in this game. Furthermore, even if mine is that bad, which you haven't proven by the way, how does that make me more deserving a vote than literally everyone else in this game other than AP?
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Finally on some wifi... could someone kindly summarize the main cases? I've got about 15 minutes to figure out my vote before I'm on thy road home so Amy quick summary I can digest would be a huge help. Thanks!
timmer wrote:Finally on some wifi... could someone kindly summarize the main cases? I've got about 15 minutes to figure out my vote before I'm on thy road home so Amy quick summary I can digest would be a huge help. Thanks!
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Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.
Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.
I... Didn't see that one coming.
You guys are doing a good job of keeping me on my toes.
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Let me get this straight, Boom. Mm's case is that you and I are bad together. So your solution to get info is to lynch me. Whatever that is, that makes no sense at all.
timmer wrote:Let me get this straight, Boom. Mm's case is that you and I are bad together. So your solution to get info is to lynch me. Whatever that is, that makes no sense at all.
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Boomslang wrote:Linki: Casual glance at timmer reads authentic to me as well. The "also" and "also also" construction in his post is more casual than a baddie might use when discussing the finer points of strategy.
Boomslang wrote:Been out all Saturday. Alas. But the thing that pinged me most all day was MM jumping down my/timmer's throat for a timing thing that would've been way too clumsy for baddie move. Voting there.
Boomslang wrote:RIP, INH. Honestly, I hadn't spent much time looking at you or your case. I apologize for not further substantiating my thoughts on MM, but JJJ's explanation is pretty much my train of thought. Using a weak, time-based rationale that would've made the most sense for a timmer vote to vote me. I'll have to look at MM more closely in the next day phase.
Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.
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Boomslang wrote:Linki: Casual glance at timmer reads authentic to me as well. The "also" and "also also" construction in his post is more casual than a baddie might use when discussing the finer points of strategy.
Boomslang wrote:Been out all Saturday. Alas. But the thing that pinged me most all day was MM jumping down my/timmer's throat for a timing thing that would've been way too clumsy for baddie move. Voting there.
Boomslang wrote:RIP, INH. Honestly, I hadn't spent much time looking at you or your case. I apologize for not further substantiating my thoughts on MM, but JJJ's explanation is pretty much my train of thought. Using a weak, time-based rationale that would've made the most sense for a timmer vote to vote me. I'll have to look at MM more closely in the next day phase.
Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.
Boomslang wrote:Linki: Casual glance at timmer reads authentic to me as well. The "also" and "also also" construction in his post is more casual than a baddie might use when discussing the finer points of strategy.
Boomslang wrote:Been out all Saturday. Alas. But the thing that pinged me most all day was MM jumping down my/timmer's throat for a timing thing that would've been way too clumsy for baddie move. Voting there.
Boomslang wrote:RIP, INH. Honestly, I hadn't spent much time looking at you or your case. I apologize for not further substantiating my thoughts on MM, but JJJ's explanation is pretty much my train of thought. Using a weak, time-based rationale that would've made the most sense for a timmer vote to vote me. I'll have to look at MM more closely in the next day phase.
Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.
Boomslang wrote:Linki: Casual glance at timmer reads authentic to me as well. The "also" and "also also" construction in his post is more casual than a baddie might use when discussing the finer points of strategy.
Boomslang wrote:Been out all Saturday. Alas. But the thing that pinged me most all day was MM jumping down my/timmer's throat for a timing thing that would've been way too clumsy for baddie move. Voting there.
Boomslang wrote:RIP, INH. Honestly, I hadn't spent much time looking at you or your case. I apologize for not further substantiating my thoughts on MM, but JJJ's explanation is pretty much my train of thought. Using a weak, time-based rationale that would've made the most sense for a timmer vote to vote me. I'll have to look at MM more closely in the next day phase.
Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.
Boomslang wrote:Linki: Casual glance at timmer reads authentic to me as well. The "also" and "also also" construction in his post is more casual than a baddie might use when discussing the finer points of strategy.
Boomslang wrote:Been out all Saturday. Alas. But the thing that pinged me most all day was MM jumping down my/timmer's throat for a timing thing that would've been way too clumsy for baddie move. Voting there.
Boomslang wrote:RIP, INH. Honestly, I hadn't spent much time looking at you or your case. I apologize for not further substantiating my thoughts on MM, but JJJ's explanation is pretty much my train of thought. Using a weak, time-based rationale that would've made the most sense for a timmer vote to vote me. I'll have to look at MM more closely in the next day phase.
Boomslang wrote:Arrrgh, I thought I could catch up tonight. Making a long story short, I have a surprise job interview in middle-of-nowhere North Carolina that will eat up the rest of my day/early evening. Gonna vote Timmer because I disagree with the main wagons and think it would at least yield info on MM. I know this is a drive-by, but I don't have time for more.
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Golden wrote:I also really don't like scotty basically being like 'told you guys'. Calling your shot on someone being civilian is the easiest thing to do in the world since a) most people are and b) all baddies have an even higher percentage shot of being right (in this case 15/16); but
c) bragging about it afterwards is the equivalent of discrediting a load of people, even when at least half of them are town, and d) not only does it discredit, but it also puts the focus squarely on 'who voted for a civilian to die' instead of 'who is bad' which are not necessarily the same thing.
Epignosis wrote:I Gave the Art Mover a Sound Reason to Vote Differently, and He Waved Off My Perceptive Point With a Meaningless Caveat
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